Best Portal Crawler Challenge - Redcat Gen8 vs Axial SCX10 III vs TRX-4 Defender
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- čas přidán 18. 04. 2020
- We put the three trail scale crawlers with portal axles in a rock crawling cage match. Which rc crawler with big, heavy scale bodies is best?
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Wow, gotta respect the Gen8 for holding its own against the more expensive players in the segment.
Admirable performance
I don't know anything about crawling so when I was looking to buy my first crawler the Gen 8 looked like a good deal for $300. I'm glad I decided to buy it. I've done a couple things to it in the past few months that were recommended in a video on this channel. Transmitter upgrade, new servo, softer foams, tuck in the rear bumper. I already had another transmitter and servo so the only money I spent was on the foams. Will probably do a few more upgrades in the future but for right now I am very happy with the truck.
@@Wicuscriz good choice
@@Wicuscriz I’ve been on the fence with purchasing my first crawler for about 3 weeks now , I’m leaning towards the gen8 do you know if they sell any aftermarket hard bodies for it?
@@comeandtakeit5709 Yup, you can swap the stock body for a few others. I got the Axial c-10 chevy body on mine
"Always answer the children" That is the way to go in my mind too. You become instantly the number one attraction when you are rcing. But the dads also get very interested. So recrute more rc enthusiasts of the future !
Exactly. The dads say it's 100% for the kids but I can see the look in their eyes. :)
Say what?
@@RCReviewChannel I'm one of them. xd
@@RCReviewChannel Dads say it's for kids, until they see the price of that car 😆
Great job Francis! Redcat owes you for this one!
Many CZcams RC content creators dismissed the gen8 a long time ago over kits fetching double the cost... but consumers appreciate this type of comparison.
Thank you sir
Wow, thanks!
The Gen 8 definitely held it's own. Was really impressed with how well it climbed. Love the bodies on all them but the SCX10 Jeep body is killer!
I'm getting that Redcat 🙌👏
Keep up the great work Fran your really setting standards for how rc should be reviewed 👍🏻 non biased professional reviews 💯
Thanks, will do! Too many are given free vehicles to review and that can sometimes handcuff them from comparing or from providing balanced viewpoints.
I really appreciate your reviews. You put the vehicles through their paces that’s for sure.
Really looking forward in taking the Gen 8! Keep the good job man! absolutely Love your vids!
Awesome! Thank you!
Really appreciate your non biased reviews!
That is the goal. It takes a lot of time but I wanted feed enthusiasts with as much information as possible.
kinda surprised at the scx10.3 was. Not as good as it should be I feel for being a new rig.
Seems loaded with bells and whistles and it has a few setup problems that are fixable. Every heavy feature though is usually good for the trail but not the rocks as we learned with the Trx4
I have a Gen8 and wouldn't trade it for either of the others.
I dont think youll get any offer of that kind anyway. Ever.
Love the comment re answering kids’ questions - totally agree - need to inspire and usher the next generation of RC drivers and lead by example. Introducing my 5 year old with an SCX24. Love your videos - fun, technical, informative, and gets right to the point. Thank u! Keep em coming! 😄 #TRX4 #crawlers
This is the video I was hoping for, thanks! I have the Defender and love it. My wife and I plan on building the Axial. I may have to pick up the Gen8 sometime in the future. I think we cannot go wrong with any one of these rigs. Like them all. Hard to choose a winner.
Amazing job on this comparison. Thank you!!
😁👍 Gen 8 For the win for the price it's a best buy out of these crawlers you show!
Just need $3 to clear out those windows
@@RCReviewChannel 😜 I did not clear mine I have to many rc's and go to crazy!
Still very happy with my Gen 8. I’ve done all the mods suggested by you and in the order you suggested, the improvements were very noticeable. Have more coming as well. Every once in a while I think about getting a smaller less “shoe box” body, but it looks so cool and different from what’s out there. Thanks for contributing to my confirmation bias
I installed the Proline 12.8 jeep body on mine & love it, its lightweight & looks amazing, another Great feature is that even tho the jeep body requires the mounting post, those post don't affect the Scout ii body at all. anotherwords you don't have to remove the post everytime to go back in forth between bodys. the scout ii easily fits above the post & the magnets grab like usual...it makes it nice to switch between the 2 quickly.... 🤙🏼
Great video but should of used the Bronco instead of the defender . just my opinion 🤔
I made a video today of making a new trail on my backyard course for my crawler! I have the gen 8 as well. This video was awesome. Good job!
Starting to think about adding the Gen 8 to my rig line up! best bang for the buck!
I really like that you did a more apples-to-apples scale comparison. I'd also be interested to see a shootout between these three with the most worthwhile mods that improve the performance (optimizing weight distrution, proper weight shock oil, etc...) while still keeping the spirit of a scale crawler.
Great video. An actual head to head comparison. First one I have seen with stock vehicles.
Glad you liked it! Yes, this is one of the things we thought was missing in the crawler category. Hopefully they can guide folks to the right vehicle for their needs and budget. Even captures the sound and smoothness sometimes.
Just ordered a gen8 without reading many reviews or any videos. I’m looking forward to it. I used to wheel a heavily modified tamiya cco1 with new bright f150 short box stepside body. and it did very well surprisingly. That was like 6 years ago. The redcat looks to be a great underdog on the trails
I continue to be surprised and impressed by my Gen 8. It seems to be the best bang for the buck. I love your videos. Keep up the great work!
Now that its been out a while what do you think about it's durability...the gen8 i mean.
I really struggled between it and the trx4 sport when the 8 came out the pivotal points with me was the belly buldge and the trx4s proven record.
Thomas Gross I’ve been really happy with the durability. I haven’t broken anything major, and the little stuff that I have broken has been me being too rough on it anyway.
I really want to get into the bigger crawlers and torn between the trx4 and the gen8 in an ideal world I would love to have both but my wallet says otherwise. In your opinions do you think I would love whichever I went for
Especially since you can buy a Gen 8 Pak chassis for 149 bucks and go from there I have 4 and I'll take it over the Axial crap any day🏜😎
@@scottjackson1812 I had a gen8 and a trx4 sport and they were both awesome, the trx4 was a tank I even put a brushless in it for a while and bashed the hell out of it and never broke anything. I never broke anything on the gen8 either but I didn't beat the hell out of it like I did to the trx4. Doesn't matter which one you buy between those 2 you will like it.
I'm getting a gen 8 next month just for trails and having fun not rock crawler thanks for the info on good and bad great view brother keep up the good work
I just bought a gen 8 and a gen 7 pro, still waiting for the rest of my order to show up so we can play with them, very excited!!
Never ignore a kid ... true words.
It'll happen alot, so be nice everyone!
Nice! I have a TRX4 orange Defender with brass portal covers as well as ally beadlocks with flexy foam inserts. It drives scale, which is what I love about it, but that Gen8 was a surprise package as a stock item, especially on a budget. My TRX4 has too many cosmetic upgrades as I used to collect 1:18 cars before getting into RC, so I love the details available for it. But i f I was starting out, that Gen8 is an excellent rig.
Very cool! Yeah, it's not the highest quality but it leaves money in the pocket for upgrades and personalization.
It's crazy how the cheapest rc is out crawling the more expensive ones. I was on a whole day search for the right crawler and settled for the gen 7 for price and true ready to run that it comes with charger and battery. And I'm a noob as well. Thanks for the great review.
I love to see your comparison videos! I like capabilities each one has. This is where the modding comes in to make improvements. I have a trx4 that I changed to the 12.3 wb. Also did an enduro ifs which I can't wait to try and my tf2 swb rc4wd which does better than I thought.
Keep up the great videos
Very informative video. Keep up the great work!
Redcat did it right. Hard to beat for the money! Once again another nice review from you guys!
I'm loving my Gen8 Axe. Brought brass knuckles for both front & rear, made a massive difference in both accents & decents. It's the 1st crawler I've had & 100% 👍👍
Would like better tyres as the sidewalls on the Irok Super Swamper' s is a big letdown when side hilling. U can c them folding & flopping/rolling sideways.
Another Gr8 video THANK YOU 👍
I have that defender and I love, but I want the other 2. Can never have to many rigs!!
Exactly!!!!!
Just got the scx 10 3 for my 63ed birthday. Thanks for all your video's ART
I've only run a couple redcats and they've all been decent vehicles. They're the 80% of a solution for half the price and they're very reliable. They're our Honda Accord 6MTs and I love them
Nicely done video, like all you do!
Love to see the tamiya cr-01 once in a comparison! Keep up the good work
Very impressed with the Gen 8, it would be interesting to see how a RC4WD Gelande would do against them, admittedly I'm biased as I have a Gelande
Nice comparison, especially because I don't own Hyrax tyres but I do have KM3 in predator compound.
Just ordered a Gen 8 Redcat Axe edition, can't wait
Great video man the gen8 is really a proven chassis change out those bumpers and skids or remove em should help approach, departure, and hangup.
Nice video of some Great trucks making Great climbs 👍🏼Thanks
love my gen 8 best value for the price preforms very well
Man! They all look beautiful and with the right upgrades for each, they all could be the rig to get. Lol I just typed what you just said. (I’m typing this as I’m watching)
I like the way you comment btw, makes me feel like I’m watching a slow pace sports channel or the Olympics.
btw. beautiful Trails over there, perfect to test their limits, imo there is not 1 Winner but 3 Winners !! they all did good on their way up and down ! The difference between those cars is so small, yet they all totally different somehow if u understand what i mean. Sorry for my bad english
Great video 👍
I love my Gen 8 Scout.
I've been upgrading it here and there with Redcat upgrade parts and it's a beast. Redcat flat belly pan really helped it climbing rocks..
Another great video.
These are quite appreciated.
I notice this and a few of other videos where you engage the children around you. Hats off to you for that. 👍🏽
The Gen 8 supeised me a little on this.
I was considering a second crawler (I have the trx4 defender) and the Gen 8 may be a viable option.
Thanks again.
a long awaited video.. 👍👍👍
Hope you enjoyed it!
Awesome channel and video thank you
As always good job, gracias.
Nice video, awesome chanel, best rewievs, great comparison...
Thanks for sharing and keep coming!!!
More to come! Thank you. We are not afraid to bring out independent thought
Such an impressive Video ! im so hyped for my Gen8 i just ordered cuz i rly feel the love RedCat put into it, the Gen7 was a whole different story imo, not so much love there =). That Gen8, even tho with that heavy body is the but best bang for the buck imo if u put even more "love" into it. i already got some lead weights sitting here for the fronttires, that may help some with the front weight while climbing.
All of those 3 are beautiful Cars !! but i felt in love with the Gen8 cuz it has this super classic + muscular body plus it has alot of improvements that u would need to add on the others
Your right on the upgrade making a change,but would also say that the driver makes a difference in how the truck will preform,awesome video😎😎👍👍
Right on
Just got the PURPLE BEAST😈 redcat gen8 V2 and is a beast out the box, ZERO REGRETS AT ALL! Great video
Francis... There's a brand new trick for the SCX10 III, if you're interested.
Changing the Transmission Gears to those for the STRAIGHT Axle Gears (outlined in the Manual) will give nearly the SAME Gearing as the TRX-4 in 1st Gear.
I'm STILL NOT a SCX10 III fanboy.... But I think it deserves a more even fight, with available stock parts. 😉
I would still remove the Roll Cage. It's pointless and you can barely see it anyway.
Like the Element... I don't think it's been given the fairest opportunity.
And I DON'T mean you - I mean the RC press in general.
The SCX10 III has had a LOT of engineering. Like the Element, it's potential hasn't been reached yet. 😉
They BOTH have a heavy LCG Chassis, similar to the $800 VS4-10 Pro!
Stay SAFE Bro! 😷
Carmine ✈🚂🚙
Yes, we have 8 mods and upgrades on ours now. It is starting to show its prowess.
@@RCReviewChannel I honestly can't wait to see that! 😁
I might still wait for the Straight Axle version...
Might even start using the offset AR-45 Axles on the SCX10 II!!
Another great review. I'm finishing up my Gen8 build now. Mostly a trail truck, stock motor / ESC upgraded servo, and most of the build time went into the details for scaling-trailing version of the Redcat. Is there a way to send photos of the builds?
Nope not on CZcams.. Go to Facebook or start a CZcams channel... 👍🏼
Awesome comment with kids, thats what makes rc fun and grow.
excellent content guy keep up the good content
I still love my TRX 4 79 bronco.the lighter body and shorter wheelbase makes all the difference.love your comparisons, refreshing to see when everything is fair.👍
just got a gen 9 and love it put a proline jeep body on it and its a thing of beauty
im torn.. not sure which to buy.. thx for the great content!
Thank you for your Videos!! Very good work, thanks a lot !!
You are welcome!
3:50 - points to gen8! I'm planning to post a video up soon about my gen8 experience (this will be a first for me), but I've done a ton of practical upgrades to it and even developed my own body mount system for the Proline Hilux Toyota SR5 body. Changing the body transforms the GEN8!
Yeah, that was kind of shocking. And that was literally uncut video with just a few seconds of attempts.
I feel like if you pull the tire on the rear of the trx4 its a whole different animal.
good video
Another great video. Love your channel and your honest reviews. Myself and nephews are wanting to get into crawlers. After watching lots of videos I love the Trx4 Sport and the Redcat Gen8. In an ideal world I would love to buy both but in the uk that would cost about £740 as both are around the £360 £370 price. So in your opinion would you say performance wise right out of the box would you say gen8 or trx4 sport without upgrades. Many thanks. Keep up the great work
Great video but maybe compare with same tires on all 3 with same body. Eg trx4 kit vs scx10 iii kit
your revievs are cool !
Having a hard time deciding between gen8 and enduro. What's your recommendation? First time into crawling, whats the best option....enduro vs gen8 shootout??;)
i like all three :), and your videos too
That's our takeaway too. Whoever gets to experience all three wins.
I have a question? Is the redcat gen 8 axe edition worth the extra cost as opposed to the regular gen 8?
I don’t understand why someone would give this a thumbs down, must be a jealous competitive channel cause there was no call for the thumbs down.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍. This can try to make up for a little bit of that. All my rc crawlers each have there own little nitch. Some can do some and some can’t, it definitely amazes me what some can do and my comp trucks can’t. Pisses me off a little bit, but happy at the same time, a few of my Vaterra Ascenders do very well for what they are and no where near setup for serious crawling.
When we publish a video, we usually get 3 thumbs down within the first minute. Strange but it's the nature of the youtube beast. It's ok by us.
RC Review that’s sad, someone dings there bell just to put you guys down....pfffff. Love your videos, sometimes I get all “your not on the right line”!!! But still love the info you put out there.👍
Great vid, but I think there are a few things to keep in mind. First, all the videos are from different date. Maybe TRX4 and Gen8 the same date but def SCX 10 III from different date. There should be a proper shootout once we can get out again. Second there should be compared with the same tire all of them (Hyrax). And as you said, maybe removing the spare tire on the Defender and maybe also remove the rear bumper as the other two barely have a rear bumper and better departure angles. I think that would level the field a little including weight. Love your vids.
Good news is the footage for all there are from the same afternoon.
Agreed on the other points. The Defender though is showing off that it can keep up given any handicap. Here is the stripped down Sport. czcams.com/video/udUfDHc8u3w/video.html
I was wondering if you could tell me where this trail is I live in the bay area and am looking for new places to crawl
Love my gen 8,but haven’t been as reliable as I thought;wasn’t that much cheaper than trx4.... still love that body...
That SCXIII is no shelf queen. Look at those scratches and dirt keep up the great reviews. I have Gen8 Axe and SCXIII both are great crawlers.
It well of big rocks about 50 times already. We felt it justified to give this vehicle a fighting chance and not drive it like fine china.
The Defender is awesome looking.
I extended the wheelbase of my Redcat so now it climbs and descends much better. It is however more prone to high centering
Maybe widen that hing too to offset that tall body.
I have both the gen 8 and trx4 both great trucks
Great video. Do you have a link to the parts to fix the gen 8 belly bump ? Thanks for all your hard work on the channel.
DuggRC you can get the flat skid plate from the Redcat website. $12.99 I think
Thank you
Great review. 👍
I’ve got the blazer and my daughter has the trx6. Love them. Want something different in a kit once something’s in stock.
I have been debating on the gen 8 vs the trx4 sport, this past week the gen 8 dropped to $270 now is that a more enticing deal? Do you think with the price difference I can put some mods in it to be similar to the trx4 performance or just buy a trx4?
Hi, I'm a newby at crawling I was wondering if you could explain what I need to start with, keeping the budget at about mid range, thanks,😀😀😀
Love my trx4 Blazer, an with some new tires for my gen 8 I think I have the perfect pair for crawling. They get along great.
Most definitely. Look so realistic as well.
Just added some proline flat irons, and a Club5 servo relocate bracket to my Gen 8. Wow, that's all you need for this to turn an climb with the trx4 Blazer.
They will both be getting a stronger servo, but are a ton of fun.
It’s also the matter of tire brands on the rc cars
Awesome!
Right?
Very accurate test. Nicely done sir. 👍👍😎😎✌✌
Thank you! Cheers! Not easy to provide comparable footage but we gave it a good effort.
In your opinion which climber did you like the best I'm having a hard time making a decision to purchase one any advice would be grateful thanks
Nice comparo. Having a bit of regret selling my Gen8 platform. For me it has its merits against the ‘favorites’. Maybe I’ll get one again soon...build up from a PACK.
Love how my gen 8 crawls. To bad 3 weeks in and my front portals and cva pinion input gears are toast.... parts nowhere to be found(cvs at least)
This was an excellent video, this was exactly what I needed to see. I've been going back and forth on a few different models, and this has finally sold me on the Gen8. I was leaning heavily toward it anyway, because of the looks and the price tag. But knowing it performs this well is icing on the cake.
Glad it was helpful! Yes, with its low price, there is an opportunity to get the dialed Axe edition. Or leave money for upgrades or the college fund.
Michael Smith I just ordered the gen8 in orange last Thursday now waiting to get it in the mail
I may be the only one one but I like the Gen 7 Pro more then the Gen 8 🤷🏻♂️ I was just about to order it but I just am in love the TRX 4 79 K5 Blazer so I pulled the trigger on the traxxas. But my next crawler will be the Gen 7
@@jonathangilbert7003 I want that K5 so bad, but I don't want to spend that much money on my first crawler.
Love the moto ...👍
TRX-4 Bronco/ Blazer
The others are nice. And cheeper for a reason.
TRX-4 is top of it's line. Imo
Keep the shiny side up.
Hello Francis, I'm thinking of buying my first RC crawler but I can't decide between the TRX 4 defender and the red cat gen 8. I feel I would go for the gen 8 axe edition just because of the upgrades I feel I would do anyway. Which one would be your go to between TRX 4 and gen 8 axe.
Thank you.
I would say the Traxxas because your able to do so much more customization and upgrades/ spare parts
excellent video my friend .keep up the good content :))
Thank you 👍
I bought the Redcat , the only mods I have done so far are tire & wheels, lights & moving the bumpers in & rock sliders up. Love it so far. I have found that I do better sith a 2cell battery & always get into trouble using the 3 cell.
That is awesome!
Please keep same view angle each car. now it is difficult to compare with each other
Will do. Next time
Seriously?
I've had the trx and vaterra and scx10 orginal.. but I really like the new losi crawler se.. thats in a diff class isn't it? Even tho they tried to make it more scale?? Appreciate your opinion plz
super cool video my friend, like it, have a nice day)
How can you make a comparison if they’re not box stock?
I feel like the gen 8 won. I may be biased tho. But I do think that the trx4 had a busted leg trying to compete while wearing the tall defender body with the rear spare tire.