Best Budget RTR Rock Crawler: Redcat Gen 8 V2 or Sendero HD?
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- If you're looking for the best RC rock crawler, watch this video! We compare two of the cheapest, big-name RTR models to see which is the best crawler: the Element RC Sendero HD or the Redcat Gen 8 V2!
Prefer a kit build instead of RTR? Check this out: • Best Pickup or Truggy ...
Correction on tools: you'll need a 1.5mm, 2mm and 2.5mm hex driver to change the motor. And possibly a soldering iron if the replacement motor doesn't come with bullet cables already attached.
Rock Test Scores & Notes:
Sendero HD: 3:09, 6 rev, 1 gate, bonus. -19
Gen 8 V2: 4:30, 8 rev, 1 gate, bonus. -17
Scores may be close but the Sendero HD did it much faster!
Also, I had a technical problem with filming and have had to show a worse run here for the Gen 8 V2 than it's best. This run had 3 gate touches! Did you spot them all? I did a few runs with the Gen 8 V2 and took the best score (-17) for the comparison. The score for the video here would have been -7. It was not an easy course! (But that shows you how good the Sendero HD really is!)
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Get your Sendero HD here: Element RC Sendero HD: www.asiatees.com/display?Elem...
Get your Gen 8 V2 here: www.asiatees.com/display?Redc...
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Useful articles on rc-tnt.com:
Sendero HD RTR Review: rc-tnt.com/rc-crawler-reviews...
What is the best RC rock crawler? rc-tnt.com/rc-crawler-reviews...
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Useful videos mentioned in this comparison:
Element RC Sendero HD new course run: • Best Pickup or Truggy ...
Element RC Sendero HD Series: • Element RC Sendero HD
Sendero HD Upgrades: • Element Sendero HD: Do...
Redcat Gen 8 V2 Series: • Redcat Gen 8 V2
Gen 8 V2 Upgrades: • Essential RC Crawling ... & • Gen 8 V2 Upgrade Fail!...
Tire Test Series: • Tire Test Series
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Chapters:
0:00 Gen 8 V2 tows Sendero HD
0:23 What's the best budget RTR?
0:33 Cheaper RTR Brands
0:43 Is Gen 8 V2 best?
0:53 Is Sendero HD best?
1:23 TRX-4 Sport expensive
1:33 Sendero HD vs Gen 8 V2
2:35 Gen 8 V2 rock test
6:20 Sendero beats Gen8 on rocks
6:40 Sendero HD electronics
7:07 Gen 8 V2 radio
7:54 Element RC vs Redcat
8:20 Gen 8 V2 upgrades
8:47 Verdict: Gen8V2 vs Sendero
9:45 Sendero HD upgrades
10:00 Gen 8 V2 Durability
10:24 Gen 8 V2 for Trail
10:34 Sendero HD for Rock
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If you can only have one and one only.. I would think the redcat gen8 would be a far better pick. I have realized having limit choices would work better if you choose the one with the most options. You can turn your redcat into a great great crawler or a fantastic trail basher .. and for that alone I think it should get the only one pick award
You can say the same about the Sendero HD, and the Gen8 will never crawl as well as the Sendero, if you modify them both or leave them stock. The redcat has durability over the Sendero, I think, and portals, if that matters to you. They're both great choices anyway!
Fantastic tests, lovely video quality! Keep up the amazing work!
Awesome video. Thank you for continuing to reaffirm my opinion that the Redcat Gen8 V2 is going to be the rig I purchase when I have the funds. Thank you.
Awesome review & test... lovely intro too. Awesomeness 🤜🤛🤙👍...
Now it's getting perfect for rc life! (Great Review!) (Grade A+)
The visible frustration and audio at the half-tire was hilarious!!!
For me, it's really a no-brainer, going with the Sendero... as much as I do a lot of trails, but as you say, the Sendero will do trailing, but once you find a rock or anything fun to climb, it'll be ready for action!
Looking forward to each video on this channel, as usual. It seems the numbers are really starting to come in, which I'm really happy, as it's really deserved!
And so happy that you finally got a site, and instagram. Now I'll be able to pester you in more media...! hahaha!
Lol, you do that!
I'm looking forward to seeing how tonight's video goes, it's a little different to my other stuff.
Oh and I'm preparing to do a long term review of the TF2 this week, finally! And then once the knightrunner arrives we can do a bit of a comparison between a few similar rigs. Plenty to do! Glad you're here for the ride :)
Brilliant review
Thanks Dave :) Glad you liked it.
Senduro shocked me , I bought for my nephews and friends to use when over . Now it’s one of my top rigs and I just built a kit version with all the factory bits . Great rig . I don’t own a gen 8 but have a 7 and it’s good also . Steering is lacking stock and a bit fast
Sendero was a great surprise, yes!
I’ve had multiple rc’s including scx10.2s, trx4 and trx4 sports, scx10.3s. My element enduro v2 kit out performs all of them. I’m picking up a second enduro v2
Thanx for your time man! Great video. I had the scx10 ii, sold it because of circumstances, but the Gen 8 v2 looks great man. Will look into this one for sure! Peace from South Africa!
Thank you very much. The Gen 8 V2 is a solid all-rounder, you bet. Peace from Australia :)
Very informative review, thanks for posting.
Thank you, I appreciate the feedback :)
Another awesome video. I love my Gen8v2 yes its my first trail/crawler but so far it does what I'm looking for. I live in Virginia, USA. I've got alot of woods around the house that I drive on and I'm working on a crawler pit with rocks I'm getting from a creek that runs through my property. I've upgraded the esc to the HW 1080 added aluminum portal housing and +12mm wheel hex. I'd love to see a wheel and tire upgrade cause they do lack a bit in that department.
I've also lengthen the wheelbase..it helps alot but you do have the clean up the wheel wells some but with the size of the body it's got the room
Very nice video 👍 I have the Gen 8 V2, a modified Sendero, Trailwalker and Carisma Brat. The Gen 8 is super fun, I added heavyweight wheels, brass axle ends and covers.
The Enduros are very capable. My Sendero has a lot of low brass, modular aluminum wheels, Rock Beast tires, 11% overdrive, full metal trans rotated with a carbon fiber motor plate, metal frame braces, different bumpers (low pro rear) topped off with body lights, bumper lights + 6 accessory fog lights linked up to a GT-5.
I'm a huge fan of the Element trucks.
Wow! That's one super sendero!
@@RCTNT thank you, I bought it second hand with a few mods then kinda went a little crazy....
@@richardpichan6916 it sounds epic!
Great video. I have both and the trx lol. I love all them for different stuff. Love your vids man! Good entertainment 👌
Yes! They're all excellent. Lucky boys with all the toys, then!
Great video last week I installed a hobby wing quikrun fusion in my gen 8 and it’s great
Great choice, it'd be a perfect match for the Gen 8 V2.
Nice video
that video of you using the gen8 to drag that trailer sold me n mines on its way.. thinking my stock tires from my tf2 Toyota 4runner that I've never used may do well on it...
That'd add to the scale fun, for sure. Enjoy! It's a great truck.
Redact gen 8 all the way. Love this truck.
Awesome review. I do have that Gen8. Like you said, awesome on trail. Able to pull some weights. Now I have to get the element rig. Not sure if the gatekeeper might perform as good as the sendero. Cheers mate.. 👍🏾👍🏾
Thanks! You can check out my Sendero HD and Gatekeeper reviews and testing and see for yourself which performs better. They're pretty similar overall and there will be some personal preference involved :)
@@RCTNT yes. I can't wait to see that videos of yours to make up my mind before Christmas crunch hits the online shopping 🤣
@@kopigangrc awesome, hope you find it helpful! Cheers
My friend you are spot on. Fortunately for me I have both models . I literally just got my Sendero yesterday & the upgrades have already started metal bead locks Reefs sliders & a bunch of scale items. The Gen is already upgraded alot & have a hobbywings esc & creeper crawler motor to install in it. What are the top upgrades you would do to the Sendero? Thanks
I'd start here! czcams.com/video/seB9YpPPmu8/video.html
If you want to go further than that (and you really don't need to), a stronger and faster steering servo and BEC to match would be next. Also replacing the radio with something more configurable (GT5 at the cheap end, perhaps a DX5 Rugged at the nicer end) - but it's all unnecessary if you do that first video's worth of things!
Craig, you mentioned using the Flysky GT5 with the Redcat. Were you able to bind it to the factory receiver or did you have to use the one that came with the GT5? I have a Redcat Marksman and have a GT5 coming for it. Thanks mate! Love your reviews!
Hey hey, thanks for the positive message, much appreciated! Yep, could bind the GT5 with the stock rx. Dunno about the marksman but I suspect it'll work there too. Fingers crossed!
I wish these were half the price of a trx4 sport! They’re actually like 30usd less but for some reason I like the gen8 more than the sport…especially after the $30 light kit for the gen8
It's a very reasonable comparison. Pricing is different to when I bought a year ago and they're now a lot closer in price here. The Gen 8 V2 has an unrelentingly tough drive train, same as the Sport! And that light kit is a great deal, yes!
Another great video! I love my Gen8V2, it was my first crawler that started this sickness.😄 I've just added heavier beadlocks and different tires so far. That helps it a ton though. Eventually I plan on a Sendero as well, when my wallet catches up. As a sidenote, I took the stock Redcat tires added hair donuts and steel beadlocks then put them on my wife's SCX10II and they work really well. Maybe it's the donuts, maybe it's the chassis? Keep up the great entertainment and Thanks.
Thank you and you're welcome! The Gen 8 will get metal beadlocks on a video soon, the wheels have finally arrived. We'll do a before and after with that change. Cheers!
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Where did you get that little trailer from? Have been looking for one and haven't been able to find it.
This old thing? Made it myself.
What? Why are you looking at me like you don't believe me?
OK, fine: Metal 1/10 Dual Axle Scale Trailer Kit
a.aliexpress.com/_mKIbGd8
It had a little construction, took an evening to put together, and beware the wiring from factory is wrong - short circuit if you don't correct it - but it is otherwise pretty nice.
@@RCTNT Awesome! Thank you for the reply. Love your channel! I'm new into the rock crawl game and your channel has great content!
Thank you kindly and welcome to the family :)
You are either holding a furry mic. Or some kind of Australian animal with a long tail. I don't know :)
Lol
Not sure where your located but in the states we get the TRX4 for 349.99$. Element is definitely the most capable rig out the box.
Nice one.
Btw the gear gen8 of gearbox is not metal? Are is true? How about durability versus metal gear?
The spur gear isn't metal but the rest of it is. See the manufacturer page:
www.redcatracing.com/products/redcat-gen8-v2-scout-ii-1-10-electric-rc-scale-crawler?variant=39968938590298
I've found this thing to be one of the most durable vehicles in my fleet. It's very good.
I'm surprised the TRX-4 Sport so much more in Australia.
Everything's more, but we earn more too, so it probably evens out for the most part.
Still, some things cost a lot more due to availability or shipping, whilst others are the same as elsewhere. Taxes etc add up.
I'm not complaining, there's much to be thankful for. I am comparing, though!
It's funny how different pricing is.
In my country, these are slightly more than a TRX4 sport.
Wow, really? How about that. Thanks for the info - what country are you in?
@RC-TNT The Redcat is actually the same price as the TRX4 sport at $519 Canadian dollars. The Element is more at $583 CAD.
Parts for the TRX4 are also far easier to get here, from what I've seen. I'm getting my first crawler soon and it's looking like the TRX4. I'm thinking I'll get the TRX4 sport kit and add different electronics.
Traxxas is heavily USA-centric, as far as I can tell. Maybe AE is more EU heavy, who knows.
Certainly the Sport is a hugely reliable and capable performer. I loved building the kit - I have a 3-part series on the channel here just on that very thing!
@@RCTNT Sweet! I'll make sure to check em out and sub.
Thank you.
Oh sweet, welcome aboard!
Red Cat Scout any day and any way 😜😳😳😳
Solid rig, isn't it
Sorry been out of the game for a long long time....Why is the sendero not good for trails?looking for a fun truck to rock crawl and trail on budget...
It's a fine all rounder. However, there are better choices for a general use rig:
Ecto is faster and similarly capable.
Gen 8 V2 and RGT Pioneer are tough all rounders that can tow well and have a tougher body than the lightweight Sendero.
Trx4 Sport and Axial Base Camp are heavier duty crawlers with great trail character too, though you'll pay more than for the Sendero.
The Sendero is a crawler that can do trail driving too. It's biased toward crawling with its light weight body, slower motor, gearing and overdrive. It's a wonderful machine and I'm sure you'll love it if you get it.
I've got videos on all of the above and more. I have an article you might find helpful too:
rc-tnt.com/rc-crawler-reviews/what-is-the-best-rc-rock-crawler/
Welcome back to the hobby! All the best with your decision!
@@RCTNT thank you for the good info and quick response
@@joedbz7146 no worries at all. Thank you for asking the question! Good to have you here :)
Where tf you at you can buy two gen 8s for the price of a trx4 right now the element is higher than the trx4 sport
It was within about AUD$50 of being true at time of purchasing. Things are much closer now, so the decision is a little different.
Gen 8 v2 or axe edition? Or trx4 new bronco? Those are the 3 im considering Hmmm 🤔
New Bronco for all round capability but the Axe edition isn't far behind. If Gen 8 V2, go the Axe over standard if you have the funds, it's an excellent system. I have 3 Axe systems and so that's an easy decision!
Personally, I'd go trx4 then axe then standard V2, in that order. The trx4 will be more expensive because it's steering servo sucks and you'll want to replace that. You might also find the hobbywing Fusion 1800kv to be a great upgrade choice for the Bronco and for the Gen 8 V2 std edition, if you go that way. I have the Fusion 1800kv in my trx6 and it is ample, so it'd rip in a 4x4.
@@RCTNT Thank you! So do you think the new trx4 is still number one in stock form? Like for example If I did not intend to upgrade it? Or would it be the axe?
@@anthonytuccillo6274 aw that's a good question. I've competed with the trx4 as the chassis underneath my class 1 rig and have won numerous local events with it. I like it for performance. However the Gen 8 V2 price is right and if you won't miss the locking diffs and two speed transmission, the Gen 8 axe would be a fine rig.
My expectation is the trx4 would beat it on the rocks and be more fun with the moving parts it has, but I could be wrong. At the end of the day they'll both be great general use machines, so feel free to let your inner kid decide on what looks better and makes you feel something more than the other.
If performance really matters first, TRX4 is the likely winner - apart from obviously the axe system being much nicer and more immediately, the rubbish traxxas steering servo, which will want swapping out soon!
If you're really looking to buy and not upgrade anything, first, lol and good luck, I'll call the Guinness Records people if you're successful, but secondly the only real choice for buy-&-never-upgrade is the Gen 8 V2 Axe edition.
Good luck, not an easy choice!
@@RCTNT Thank you so much for the winded response! Much appreciated. You have really helped me in making my decision but also made it more difficult lol. I really love them both but I feel like the axe may be the better bang for the buck out of the gate. Love that bronco body though but that axe has the old school cool crawler look. I think I may just have to do the old fashioned flipping of a coin lol. In the end I will probably just go with the axe, the bronco is a beauty but for the price it should be better and factoring in the necessary upgrades its going to far exceed the price of the axe. Not doing any competition crawling so don't feel the need to upgrade anything other then small things like wheel weights, tires and such. Thanks again and you deserve my sub!
@@anthonytuccillo6274 hey thanks, you're welcome, and good logic - I think you'll be very happy with the Redcat.
I have a Gen 8 also and within a week I changed the tires….not the greatest for crawling….otherwise the rig performs well out of the box.
Nice one. I've had a similar experience, per our Gen 8 V2 series here. Those tires are awful, apart from on dry rock. The Pro-line Interco SSwampers are considerably better at least!
TRX4 is best on terrain in Kentucky.