@@NorthForkFisherman "Your flood never happened" Nah bruv. Millions of years never happened. Can't have fossilized tracks of animals, in layers, millions of years before the layers in which actual animals appeared the fake azz geologic column. “Animal tracks almost always precede body fossils in the fossil record, as paleontologist Dr Marcus Ross explains: “This is a pattern we see in several different groups, where their footprints are first, and their body parts are later. For the trilobites, for the amphibians, for the dinosaurs-the first time I find evidence of them in the fossil record, it’s from trackways, not from hard parts. From an old-earth perspective, that’s really weird, and hard to grapple with, because you have millions of years of trackway production, then ultimately the animal that made it. But that obviously doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Because if there’s trackways, there’s animals, and those animals have bones and teeth and shells to them, why aren’t they fossilized? Instead the pattern is telling us something different: there’s no time between when somebody leaves a track and when somebody’s buried.” Dr. Marcus Ross Phd paleontologist
@@Hydroverse Doesn't work. Why would they be segregated by "area" like that? If there was no extinction as science recognizes it, there is no reason to expect the stratification of fossils we observe. Pterosaurs, if nobody else, should be mixed into all the layers, depending on when and where an individual fell from the sky. Animals living in tall trees (as in today's rainforests) should be buried together, whether they are from today's fauna or what science says are ancient. Not all dinosaurs were large and other animals other than dinosaurs lived during the dinosaur age as well. Yet, dinosaurs, regardless of age, tend to be buried together. In fact, there are three distinct ages of dinosaurs science detects and they don't intermix. "The flood" is not a good explanation as to why because (for instance) there are large plant eating dinosaurs in every dinosaur age, but they are still strictly segregated in the record. We also have areas where the given stratification indicates a very different climate than today's. For instance, there are rock layers in Antarctica that show a tropical flora and fauna. But these are particular layers only. There's a lot that would be different if so many creatures died in a global catastrophe and there was no extinction before the flood.
It's quite interesting that the further planets that we know, Neptune, Uranus and the dwarf Pluto have ice because they are furthest from the sun yet our Earth also has ice although not covered by it. Makes me wonder if God created water first, if it wasn't ice, but I don't know much about science to understand that concept.
But the creatures in the sea were not created till day 5, and birds were created then too. The land creatures, came on day 6, so water would no longer have covered the earth when animals were being created.
It's a geological presentation from a biblical perspective, as opposed to a geological presentation from a naturalistic perspective, which the mainstream view is. So they are both geological presentations from the perspective of particular (but different) presuppositions.
The theory of evolution is philosophical and nor scientific. No one saw the Big Bang, the formation of the solar system and the Earth, or the genesis of life on Earth. Experimental or observational science is the study of things which can be seen and studied. Origin science is a philosophical view of something which has occurred but cannot be observed and studied. The beginning of the universe, the solar system, and the Earth was not and cannot be proved by experimental pr observational science; it requires a secular or religious philosophical answer. Scientists recently found an underground ocean which contains three times the amount of water in the Earth's oceans; that explains how there could be enough water to cover the entire Earth.
I love this, but one question I have is where are all the fossils of the people that were alive back then? I completely believe in God and the flood. I just have that one question
@AnonYmous-yj9ib Yes, and evidence can be misinterpreted and manufactured. Which is why, lawyers and not scientists" run the world. Evidence, shmevidence.
I wish I could remember the name of the individual that said " WE JUST ACCEPT ANY THEORY,NO MATTER,HOW PREPOSTEROUS,BECAUSE WE CAN NOT ALLOW A HOLY FOOT IN THE DOOR". Like I said,I can't remember who said this,but it's very telling! ALL POWER AND GLORY TO YHWH,GOD,THE KING OF KINGS! BLESS HIS HOLY HOLY NAME!!
@@JLBorges2803 - There is a massive amount of evidence of a global flood. Many of the great MYSTERIES of geology are themselves evidence. An unwillingness to accept them as such does not change that fact. _"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it."_ *_Mahatma Gandhi_*
@@freemind..what mysteries are you referring to? Floods leave very particular deposits behind, without one that covers the globe fail to see how any mysteries point to a global flood
@@JLBorges2803 - You are right that Floods leave behind evidence, and a global flood would leave evidence beyond that left by any other type of flood; evidence that is largely misunderstood because normal floods are not capable of producing such evidence. I'll lay out a few of these here, but there are far too many to discuss in great detail. Hopefully some of these examples will ring true and open the eyes of someone reading this.. as they did with my own.
@@JLBorges2803 *GLOBAL FLOOD EVIDENCE* *1) Surface Deposits of Fine-Grained Basalt* - There are non-vesicular basalt deposits on the surface of every continent in the world. An example of "Vesicles" are the holes in lava rock which are from gases escaping as the lava cools. The only place on Earth that non-vesicular basalt is forming today is at the bottoms of the oceans. Why?? *Because to get fully non-vesicular basalt, it must be extruded under **_AT LEAST 9,800 FEET OF WATER._* Non-vesicular basalt deposits on the surfaces of all the world's continents is evidence that *all the world's continents* were at one point covered by at least 9,800 feet of water! By the way, those basalt deposits are demonstrably YOUNG and *cannot be more than several thousands of years old,* as indicated by their *obvious LACK OF EROSION.* *2) Topsoil* - The Global Flood happened in 2345 BC, so around 4,400 years ago. An interesting time-frame corroboration is *topsoil.* Based on global averages, it takes around *500 years to form one inch of topsoil.* The global average amount of topsoil extant today is *9 inches.* Therefore *ALL of the world's topsoil was created in the last ~4500 years... a significant proof since all topsoil would have been scoured away by the Flood.* Otherwise, we would expect to see *massively thick topsoil* that formed over millions of years in at least some areas of the world.. *but there are none.* We should also see *multiple previous layers* of topsoil at various points in the geological column, that have been buried by younger sedimentary layers.. *but there are none.* *3) Petrified Pine Cones* - The Global Flood was a *one-time event* that happened in the *Springtime* of the year 2345 BC. Petrified pine cones confirm both of these claims. All fossilization and petrification occurred during the Global Flood. We can confidently say this because there are very specific requirements for the lithification of organisms; these requirements are Super-Saturated Water, High Temperatures, and High Pressures. *During the Global Flood was the only time in history that the environment was right for fossilization/Petrification.* Petrified pine cones have been found all over the world, but *no one has ever found one that was OPEN.* All have been *CLOSED with SEEDS still inside.* This means that the petrification process began during a very limited stage of development, which could only have been in the Springtime. Since we have never found an open petrified pine cone anywhere on Earth, but have found closed petrified pine cones worldwide, we can know that they are the product of a *SINGULAR WORLDWIDE EVENT that began in the SPRINGTIME.* Again, this could only have been produced by *Noah's Flood.* *4) Salt Domes* - Virtually *PURE-SALT salt domes could never be formed over millions of years through evaporation or any other process. The vast geological ‘evaporite’ deposits are not evaporates.* Do scientists even know the actual *ORIGIN OF SALT??* Most do not. *The largest single-mineral rock formation in the world is taller than the tallest mountain on the Earth. It is a salt dome, it is underground, and it is more than 7 MILES high.* Scientists have tried to explain their formation, but all theories have failed. One of the most difficult aspects to explain is the *purity of the domes.* *At many salt domes, the salt is 99% pure sodium chloride, or halite.* The Avery Island salt dome is 99.25% NaCl. The Dundee and Sylvania salt body in Michigan is 99.89% NaCl. Salt from the Redmond Salt Mine in Utah is 97.97% sodium chloride. *Evaporation is a slow process.* In the time it takes water to evaporate and crystals to form, *silt, sand, or other detritus* would be blown or washed over the deposits. If the *evaporate theory* were true, *thousands of layers of impurities should be evident,* as they would have accumulated in these natural deposits. However, these layers are generally *non-existent in salt domes.* There is a huge amount of information to unpack here.. so I'll cut to the chase: *Salt and Oil share a common origin..* which is why they are found together. That origin? *MICROBIAL WASTE.* There are *3 critical factors for SALT CREATION:* *1- Acid-Base Biosalt Origin -* Natural salts originated from the neutralization of chemical acids and bases created by the proliferation of biological waste. *2- High-Temperature / High Pressure Environment -* Large salt deposits form only in supercritical conditions, when salt-water is at an elevated temperature and pressure, like those found in the depths of the ocean. *3- The Global Flood Event -* The only time in world history where both the Biosalt origin of salt and the requisite global environmental conditions existed, creating kilometers-thick deposits of pure salt throughout the upper crust of the Earth. *5) Arch Formations* - *6) Skipperocks* - *7) Pedestal Formations* - *8) Alluvial Fans* - *9) Obsidian* - *10) Columnar Basalt* - *11) Double-Terminated Crystals* - *12) Limestone, Dolomite & Loess* - *13) Oil, Gas & Coal* - *14) Pyrite* - *15) Ore* - *16) Surface Chalcedony* - *17) Geodes* - *18) Rock Varnish* -
Hi - Please I watch these channels hoping to see a comprehensive timeline for YEC, however, all we get is Flood, Flood, Flood. You really need to show ALL the things God has flung at this planet - Please include and explain the asteroid impacts, such as Theia, Vredefort and Chicxulub. Also Dr. Snelling (an Australian), we need also to look at possibly the largest impact crater (just discovered), the Deniliquin crater. The asteroid impacts look to dwarf the Flood and we really need the experts to explain when these events, along with decades long impact winters fit into the timeline. I'm also curious as to why no ancient cultures mention these asteroid impacts in their writings - Any ideas welcomed.
I personally believe they happened after the Flood since craters are found on top of flood rocks. It's my thought that the asteroids would be responsible for breaking up the crust. This is based on the asymmetry of the reconstructed continental crust being more broken up than the oceanic crust. Also, recombining the continents makes it apparent that most of the divergent boundaries are located within the supercontinent, while most convergent boundaries are found around the continent's perimeter. Lastly, it can be deduced that the axial tilt has changed. I say this because day and night are seasonal changes in the higher latitudes. If God originally created the entire world to be inhabited with vegetarians, then higher latitudes would have needed sunlight year-round. This translates to a smaller tilt, which would be closer to the Moon's orbital plane like other planets and their moons.
Then why don't the asteroid impacts appear in ancient writings? They clearly dwarf the Flood, and caused global impact winters, plus failure of vegetation stocks on a worldwide basis, which led to global mass extinctions. They also introduced Iridium and ash layers in geological strata that evidence the extent of their impact. Then on pre-Flood vegetarianism theories, we have fossilized dinosaurs that have fossilized animals inside as part of their last meals...
@@sliglusamelius8578 Pollen deposition. The heat balance. The obvious violations of natural laws that are required of almost all sedimentary deposits. Ostracods. Fusain deposits. And on and on. Now, you need to tell us all here how a global flood solves all these problems. You do understand what I'm talking about? Right?
@@sliglusamelius8578 For openers, a lot of fossils are buried by sandstorms and even tree sap (amber). Even some fossils buried in water are formed by processes incompatible with the turbulence from a supposed global flood (or even a local one).
The Bible tells all about the flood. Noah was instructed to close the ark door and then the flood waters came. 40 days and 40 nights it rained flood waters. All in the Bible stories.
The western interior seaway went across the western states of America. Couldn’t the drying up of the sea cause mammal and marine fossils to be mixed together. Also countries like Australia could it have been once underwater then the oceans started shrinking having yhe same effect?
I’m genuinely curious, not trying to troll or be contentious. What makes you think there was a global flood 10,000 years ago? According to the Biblical timeline figured from the genealogies, the Flood would’ve been more recent either ~2,300 BC or ~2,700 BC depending on whether using the Mesoretic or Septuagint dates.
@@jefffinkbonner9551 While I basically agree with you Jeff, I have heard variations from 2,300 BC to 3,400 BC. Certain scriptures, like you mentioned and I forget the mans name. It has to do with Earths wobble, like a ringing bell. Anyway, *_God Bless_*
To be fair, if one starts with God creating creatures out of the ground, then anything is possible. I do suspect though that Noah's Flood was part of a much bigger catastrophe. There's volcanism on Venus, Mars, Europa, Io, and other worlds. There are also galaxies colliding and being rapidly consumed by the supermassive black holes (as it is indicated by their jets), which coincides with 2 Peter 3:10. If true, then superluminal acceleration can be linked to the evidence of accelerated nuclear decay, and any infrared radiation that was emitted could have undergone a massive Doppler Effect to mitigate the heat that atomic decay normally causes as infrared radiation is converted into other wavelengths.
@@snaptrap5558 Do you know that decay doesn't change in different gravity fields? That's a condition that everyone overlooks, and doesn't think to consider.
@@snaptrap5558 Yes, and that is pointed out. But sometimes, just to play along, scientists will agree to "assume" that nuclear decay can be accelerated even as we don't know how it could happen. When one does that, one gets ungodly amount of heat from compressing four billion years of planetary radioactive decay to a single year. So, the amusing answer is "even if you could do it, you'd destroy the planet." Creationists are, as I type, busily trying and failing to square this particular circle.
How about the flood evidences that AREN'T where they should be? For instance, how do you explain the relative ages of mountains? Why weren't the Sierra Nevadas eroded as much as the Appalachians during the Flood? Why is there no evidence of a flood in ice core data? Ice cores from Greenland have been dated back more than 40,000 years by counting annual layers, and the Vostok Antarctica cores go to 420,000 years. A worldwide flood would be expected to leave a layer of sediments, noticeable changes in salinity and oxygen isotope ratios, fractures from buoyancy and thermal stresses, a hiatus in trapped air bubbles, and probably other evidence. Why doesn't such evidence show up? How are the polar ice caps even possible? Such a mass of water as the Flood would have provided sufficient buoyancy to float the polar caps off their beds and break them up. They wouldn't regrow quickly. In fact, the Greenland ice cap would not regrow under modern (last 10,000 yrs) climatic conditions. Why did the Flood not leave traces on the sea floors? A year long flood should be recognizable in sea bottom cores by (1) an uncharacteristic amount of terrestrial detritus, (2) different grain size distributions in the sediment, (3) a shift in oxygen isotope ratios (rain has a different isotopic composition from seawater), (4) a massive extinctions. Why do none of these show up? And why is there no evidence of a flood in tree ring dating? Tree ring records go back more than 12,000 years, with no evidence of such a catastrophe during that time.
The Flood would have taken place while the Earth still had one supercontinent (I personally believe it was more circular after putting South America into the Ross Sea and Africa into the Weddell Sea). Given how the sedimentary layers and coal beds line up when reconnected, then the continent would have remained intact throughout the Flood. A century later would mark the beginnings of Continental Drift and the Ice Age during the days of Peleg. With the original ocean currents there would be warmer waters brought up from lower latitudes to higher latitudes. This would create two massive glaciers. The North Glacier would stretch from upper North America to Europe and northern Asia. The South Glacier would cover almost half of South America, all of Antarctica, the southern portion of Africa, and lower parts of Australia/ New Zealand. These glaciers would form rapidly due to the constant supply of snow/freezing rain coming over the arctic and antarctic regions. Only when the continents moved further along as mountains were formed would the ocean currents change alongside changes to the atmospheric circulation. This would lead to the melting of certain glaciers, and would cause extensive flooding like the Mississippi Valley as water drained into the Gulf of Mexico. This would lead to another climate shift as the loss of ice on continents would make them lighter, and the oceans would get higher. Any ecosystem that depended on the meltwater from the ice would have perished. Eventually the system has reached close to an equilibrium of what we have today.
1. The most common date given for the flood is 4400 years ago, right in the middle of the Egyptians first burst of city and temple building, why did they not notice they were under water? 2. To flood the planet to over top the highest mountain you would need about 3 to 4 times the known amount of water in the world, where did all that water come from? 3. After the flood, where did the water go? 4. How did 8 people build a wooden ship bigger than any wooden ship built in modern times when THAT ship was reinforced with steel bracing and still broke up and sank. 5. How did animals with odd diets get to the ark? 6. How did 8 people deal with the needs of 10000 animals on the ark? Each animal had to be fed, watered, exercised and the poop scooped. Working 12 hours a day they would need to deal with over 100 animals per hour. 7. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood. 8. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood. 9. Well according to the Book of Jasher, the wives ARE sisters. Jasher 5: 32-35 "And thou shalt choose for thy sons three maidens, from the daughters of men, and they shall be wives to thy sons. And Noah rose up, and he made the ark, in the place where God had commanded him, and Noah did as God had ordered him. In his five hundred and ninety-fifth year Noah commenced to make the ark, and he made the ark in five years, as the Lord had commanded. Then Noah took the three daughters of Eliakim, son of Methuselah, for wives for his sons, as the Lord had commanded Noah." If a species undergoes a population bottleneck, the lack of genetic diversity can be seen in the members of that species. NO such bottle neck exists in the overwhelming majority of species. 10. 4400 years is not a long enough time to generate the diversity in the human population to give rise to the different populations of people we see on the planet especially when you consider that effectively the genetic diversity was limited to 4 people, Noah and his wife and Eliakim and his wife. 11. Ken Ham's phony Ark has a million Dollar + heating, ventilation and air conditioning system that ensures that workers and visitors do not suffocate in the building. According to the bible, the original Ark had one window, 18 in square. Sorry people but if Ham's estimate of 1600 species represented by a minimum of 4000 animals, they would have suffocated. 12. There is NO trace of any global flood in the geology of the world. Lots of local and regional floods, yes, but NO global flood. 13. Oh and by the way, for those fools at CMI who think Noah's Flood was a real event, a Tomb has been discovered in Egypt dated to 4400 years ago, about the time of the mythical flood (according to many biblical creationists). This raises several questions. a. If the Tomb was built before the flood, how did it escape being flooded? b. If the Tomb was built after the flood, the Earth's population would have been devistated so who built the tomb? c. Why is this Tomb perfectly in line with Egyptian culture before and after the fairy tale flood? If everybody in Egypt were killed in the flood, the Egyptian culture from before the flood would have been lost. Untouched 4,400-year-old tomb discovered at Saqqara, Egypt National Geographic, PUBLISHED DECEMBER 17, 2018
@@joinjen3854 No thank you, I get lied to far more than enough just refuting creationist nonsense on CZcams, I refuse to pay Ken Ham my money for more lies.
The bee specimen shown by Dr. Snelling in this video is an imprint of a Palaeovespa florissantia or in layman's terms, an extinct type of "wasp." It was no larger or smaller in size than the various types of wasps we see today.
I thought you said that the fossils had to be formed catastrophically by burying. How does water rapidly bury something in sediment on top of a mountain?
The sedimentary rocks were formed alongside volcanic layers. Once those sedimentary rocks were partially set, then they were folded in the following generations to where you have marine fossils at higher elevations.
Asking a Creationist if there’s evidence for the Flood of Noah is like asking a 12 year old Justin Bieber groupie for an honest, unbiased critique of the latest Justin Bieber album.
The same is true of an atheistic scientist, as Dr. Snelling points out. Occam's Razor -- the simplest explanation is the best -- section of the video discusses how point of view affects interpretation of fossil record.
Challenges to science are not offered here there are big events, but not one huge event when it comes to floods Rocks with ocean fossils on mountains means the fossil laden rocks were uplifted due to orogeny- the uplifting of ancient sediments. Huckster to make a name for himself
The flood was not world wide. Water covered the entire land. NOT the entire Earth. The Hebrew word eretz means land. It does not mean the entire Earth. There is no way to argue this. The idea that water covered the entire globe is simply a traditional tale that has persisted.
I think there was a catastrophic flood , but I think the flood came after the impact in the ocean to cause the tsunami that buried those animals together. With the meteor strike could have water going up into the atmosphere same time causing a message tsunami that water in the atmosphere would then have to rain out . I don't think it was just on strike either. I do think it through the planet for a loop
You should read Dr Walt Brown's book, free PDF version online. "The Hydroplate Theory" Bryan Nickel's channel has videos explaining, graphically as well as having the address for the free PDF. Dr Brown's book can also be purchased in hardcover, with excellent photographs along with the physics involved.
@@RS54321 in psalms 104 it says the hills went up and the valleys went down so the mountains weren't at their current levels and mt Everests summit is made of limestone, so it was definitely underwater and not just that mountain, but they all have evidence of being submerged. So, the bible is correct the mountains were underwater. Now there's just the timeframe of when and how this happened. if the great fountains of the deep burst forth that would have affected plate tectonics.
My personal view is that this planet has undergone many disasters. Many as in dozens and dozens. The world has been destroyed and remade, over and over. The last disaster was on the order of 6 to 7 thousand years ago. Before that was the Younger Dryas. Each time was like a new Genesis unfolding.
Doesn't continental Granite Float on Basalt. It does not make sense, land will erode and sink with new Continents rising out of the "Basalt" ocean floor, with mud. Granitic Continents can be flooded over, but sinking.
Your right , I worded it wrong thankyou for that, that bible is the one true book of our past, present and future ,yes this "book" of such Holy,Godly power to the believer nonsense to those that are to parish by disbeliefth.
The earth was here long before man , and it was covered with water and had a thick cloud cover, and their was no land that's why it explained in Genesis how the earth was formed. God couses the cloud cover to dissipate and set the rotation of day and night and the moon, then he couses the land to come up from under the water.
At some point I think God separated us from the animals especially primates and created us possibly through evolution, but he definitely set us apart from all other creatures at some point. We are unique and special, but we have work to do as having dominion or stewardship over other creatures and the earth what's needed? compassion, love, hope for a better future. To live the way the bible shows us.
The Flood was progressive over a period of months. You'd have a wave of water carrying sediments inland, and then they'd be temporarily exposed to allow creatures to leave their footprints in the soft sediments.
@@Hydroverse The Bible doesn't say this. It says that there was a sudden inrush of water and constant rain, which killed everything. Nowhere does it talk about gentle tides coming in and out over months, which would have destroyed foodprints. How many fossilized footprints do you find at the beach? None, because the tide destroys them, lol.
There was no global flood. Many ancient civilizations continued to flourish around the time this was purported to have happened. The Earth is 24 thousand miles in circumference. There's simply no way all the land masses were covered in water killing everyone but those on that boat built solely by a 600 year old man and his sons all in their hundreds themselves. 🤔
@@karlirosek the earth is covered to 70% of its surface area by water so there's no way there's an amount near that underground. A worldwide flood would have wiped out tens of millions which it didn't as it never happened.
Two comments: First, In the outcrop mentioned by Dr. Snelling was the whale found in the SAME layer as the marsupial? If not then this can be explained by marine deposition followed by a regression and terrestrial conditions prevailed when the marsupial lived and was buried. Second, why does Dr. Snelling think the layers in the Grand Canyon had to be deposited in an elevator-type setting?
By "elevator-type setting", are you referring to his comment that under the mainstream view the land would have had to sink below the sea level and rise above it several times in succession? I believe that IS the mainstream view, not Snelling's. And that is what you're proposing for the Fossil Bluff formation that you are questioning. For more information on that, find the article "Tasmania’s fossil bluff" by Snelling.
This is one of the many amazing videos presenting conclusive evidence of the Biblical flood. Christ is soon returning, and He is sending throughout the world the irrefutable evidences of the Holy Bible's truth. However, I need to humbly correct one statement made in this video. At 24:45 the host proclaims that the only eye witness we have to the flood is God Himself. That is no longer true. Although nobody alive, today, witnessed the flood, the archeological record contains an affidavit from Noah himself. I think its making was directed by the Holy Spirit, because it symbolically presents not just the flood occurrence, but the basic, Biblical narrative of the flood as the Holy Spirit would inspire Moses' record of it centuries later. Watch Gobekli Tepe: Noah's Monument to God's Ark. Then be sure to watch Gobekli Tepe and the Mazzaroth, Part 1, and Part 2. You might roll your eyes right now, but you will be rolling your mind once you've seen what can now be known about Noah and his great granddad, Enoch.
Could the Grand Canyon been formed by both Noah’s flood and later by a second flood maybe a hundred years later, by huge lakes formed from the remains of the flood waters that drained into the Gulf of Mexico and formed what we see today as the Grand Canyon?
@@jeffreyhusack2400 Wrong part of the world, but working with real data. There are specific scablands that do exist and were carved during the recurring floods as the glaciers collapsed and rebuilt themselves. This is also similar to what we see in the Great Lakes and the submerged falls in Lake Huron.
The sedimentary layers of the Grand Canyon demonstrate that the process took place over millions of years. Tectonic uplift: up to 277 miles long, 18 miles wide, and 6,000 feet deep. The Grand Canyon has been carved, over millions of years, as the Colorado River cut through the Colorado Plateau. The Colorado Plateau is a large area that was elevated through tectonic uplift millions of years ago. Furthermore, to carve out solid rocks to create this chasm, would require the pressure, pounds per square inch, of a water-cutting laser. No tree would be left standing. Do the Maths. The fact that there are trees remains still standing after millions of years is evidence that the process took place over the previously mentioned millions of years. You have not answered the objection that Creationists unknowingly believe in evolution on STEROIDS. From two kinds, we produce the present diversity in a few thousand years? "In 5000 years, we would produce, the lynx, Tiger, leopard and cheetah. There are very small horses, donkeys, zebra and giraffes; that diversity in 5000 years is impossible and would be observed in a human lifetime. No transition animals' skeletal remains within the last 7000 years were ever observed. Skeletons of animals that lived in the last 50 000 years are identical to the present animals' skeletons." Some of these "kinds" cannot interbreed. As an example, the lion cannot interbreed with the common cat! Let creationists explain why there are no sloths, polar bears, kangaroos and komodo dragons or their skeletal remains found in the Middle East? There were never there! They EVOLVE in their unique environments!
Geological evidence is irrelevant to those of us who "walk by faith, not by sight". There is no geological evidence for Christ's crucifixion, but we who are chosen and are born of the Spirit believe, and, know that it is true. Amen and amen. I need no visible evidence. It is all of .....faith.
youd do better not to call it noahs flood unles you can explain fossil formation in 5000 years. imediately ivokes thoughts of somone with a religious agenda. there was a flood but it wasnt noahs.
I don't think that's a question which needs to be answered.. we see flash fossilization, animals fossilized while giving birth etc. There's also living fossils from every 'mass extinction event'.
Fossils can be formed very quickly, given the right conditions. Further, fossils _require_ sudden and deep burial, which doesn't occur on a large scale except with something like a global flood. Mainstream scientists have a naturalistic agenda. They apply a principle known as "methodological naturalism", which involves ignoring evidence that favours a supernatural explanation.
@@PJRayment there is no such thing as evidence from nature that favors a supernatural explanation.. you're using the definition of philosophical naturalism for MN. Fossils don't require sudden and deep burial either. If all fossils were a consequence of the same event we'd see a homogeneous mixture of fossils encased in a homogeneous matrix of some sort of complex sediment across the globe..We don't however. Many taphonomies don't suggest anything remotely similar to that. Whole ecosystems with biotic and abiotic components are preserved intact.
@@patldennis "there is no such thing as evidence from nature that favors a supernatural explanation.." What's your evidence for that claim? And why wouldn't there be? "you're using the definition of philosophical naturalism for MN" Nope. MN says that supernatural explanations can't be considered. "Fossils don't require sudden and deep burial either." Experiments show that they do. If the burial isn't sudden, they will rot away before they fossilise. If it's not deep, they will still rot before they fossilise because there is still oxygen and bacteria in shallow sediments. There may be some rare circumstances where things are different, but that's the general requirement. "If all fossils were a consequence of the same event we'd see a homogeneous mixture of fossils encased in a homogeneous matrix of some sort of complex sediment across the globe.." Why would we? We are talking about a year-long global flood probably involving rapid plate tectonics. That would result in multiple currents in various directions in different local circumstances. And we'd expect sea-bottom creatures buried first, followed by other marine creatures, followed by coastal creatures, and so on. Rather like what we do see! "Whole ecosystems with biotic and abiotic components are preserved intact." Which would require sudden, deep, and widespread burial. The kind that a global flood would produce.
@@PJRayment evidence found in nature is natural evidence. If something is tangible (ie can be measured) then it is natural, not supernatural). This is a simple paradox you're not grasping here. It is by definition impossible to have evidence of the supernatural, bc if you can sense it in one way or another it ceases to be supernatural. Once again,, MN says that the supernatural can't be considered out of practical necessity. PN says that it has to be considered bc it is all that exists, anyway. Plenty of fossils show evidence of decay , modification by scavengers etc. Fossils in amber, permafrost, and the La Brea targets didn't require deep burial. Some fossils show that organisms were clearly breathing and succumbed to things like volcanic ash before latrr.being buried. A dead fish can sit on the bottom of an anoxic lake indefinitely befire being buried completely (Decay by bacteria and fungi requires oxygen.) A global flood would homogenize and mix up whole ecosystems. It wouldn't allow for the conditions for limestone, siltstone and sandstone to form as individual discrete strata, nor would it keep primitive ferns separate from flowering plants. Have you ever seen footage from a tsunami. Do you have any inkling of how many people went missing in the 2004 tsunami? It certainly didn't bury them where they were-it took them out of their context and put them in another environment
This could have been so good if he explained it in a different way and went into more detail using a more coherent analytical and logical scientific approach.. The way he's presenting a lot of this you can't really draw the conclusions that are being drawn
@@yes2truth the prophecy of isaiah had nothing to do with Jesus... it's about the country of israel...kudos for trying though... scriptures from a book loaded with errors, mistakes, and contradictions,are meaningless
@@yes2truth And yet, here you are. Using a piece of technology that is entirely dependant on the laws of physics and the mind of man for its creation. Your book of folklore and myth doesn't cover that too well, does it? But then again, this video isn't about that, is it? It's about a flood that never happened.
@@yes2truth See, the problem is that I do know quite a bit. And oftimes, more about the dogma that you regale as fact when it certainly is not. In the end it's about the details, because they do indeed matter. For example, the first thing that disproves your literal interpretation of Genesis is the amount of energy in the system. I'll make it simple for you, Chucky: Where did the heat go?
@@yes2truth And there we have it, ladies and gents. The deep and abiding ignorance that is the hallmark of the YECer. You know nothing of either the myth you try to defend much less the data that directly contradicts it. See Chuckles, you're here because of two SDAs named Whitcomb and Morris who wrote a little book called "The Genesis Flood" in which they try to bastardize science into supporting their claims about a Noachian Deluge. Same as you, they very studiously avoid talking about details like the amount of heat moving in the system from all the exothermic formations in the Earth's crust. As a member of the STEM community I have more than a passing familiarity with the processes and sciences involved. And to be perfectly honest, it's a simple question. Where did the heat go?
the ichthyosaur fetus was likely ejected thru postmortem gas buildup. Nevertheless the fact that it was "doing something" immediately prior to death indicates a global flood how, exactly?
The fact that it was 'snap frozen' in the act of giving birth shows very sudden burial. The fact that it was preserved in such detail shows that burial was sudden and deep, not allowing for decay.
@@PJRayment Guess I need to refer you back to my comment. No one can demonstrate one way or the other that it was in the midst of the "act". In any case every animal is doing something when it dies. Furthermore, things can be buried rapidly. Geologists are aware of it. They can identify landslide type events from the debris field in the rocks. All that is needed are weathering and gravity. But, that's giving a lot of latitude to the premise. I would wager that the ichthyosaur is buried in limestone, which isn't compatible with the flood scenario-the native particles are too fine. But there are big piles of calcareous goop at the ocean bottom today. Great environment for counteracting scavengers
@@patldennis Nobody can prove conclusively what was happening, but people _can_ draw reasonable inferences, and palaeontologists often do. Why is limestone not compatible with the flood scenario? That is, what is it about fine particles that make it a problem?
@@PJRayment we don't prove things in science. More accurately we falsify things.. in this case what didn't happen. Such phrasing reveals you don't understand the scientific method. Apologists cherry pick that which suits their narrative whereas actual scientists constantly try to dismantle the thing they actually think is at play. Indeed, paleontologists have incidentally falsified a YE narrative. Limestone whether chemical or biological or in between, is a by product or an indicator of the presence of particular conditions. It is not amenable to a one size fits all explanation like duh flood.
@@patldennis "we don't prove things in science." Yes, I agree. "Such phrasing reveals you don't understand the scientific method." Sorry, _what_ phrasing? I didn't say that science _can_ prove things. "Apologists cherry pick that which suits their narrative whereas actual scientists constantly try to dismantle the thing they actually think is at play." Pull the other one. Christian apologists have a commitment to truth (that comes from the Bible). Scientists don't try and dismantle evolution-it's a given, a framework in which they do their historical science. Yes, they'll argue about the details, but not the paradigm. "Indeed, paleontologists have incidentally falsified a YE narrative. " How have they supposedly done that? Without invoking naturalism (which they all invoke)? "Limestone whether chemical or biological or in between, is a by product or an indicator of the presence of particular conditions." Yeah, okay. "It is not amenable to a one size fits all explanation like duh flood." Why not? The flood would have created, and operated in, many different conditions.
According to faith and/or the belief in God, you're not suppose to compare geology against ageism of the earth or evolution. You can study and love both geology and Jesus, without conflict.
The Bible clearly states that the fountains of the great deep were broken up. It also makes clear that there was a canopy of water surrounding the earth that God caused to break up and rain down on the earth.
These same people will say the earth is 6000 years old :) Just because there were floods, doesn't mean the bible is right. Noah's flood story is stolen from the Atrahasis or Gilgamesh story. Floods occurred around 10,000 BC, due to the end of the Ice Age, not because of a convenant with God. If such a convenant exists, then certainly it would be Atrahasis' convenant before Noah's.
@@yes2truth you mean the man who said he liked Jesus,but he didn't like Christians, because they are nothing like Jesus,and don't follow his teachings?
@@raymondgrimaldi9207 Bullseye on the quote about Xtians, and for the bonus point - MC's ironic use of Gandi. It's akin to that one from Romans that YECers spew right before they run away.
And he's lying his ass off. We embrace reality. Even if it isn't what we think it is. And we're humble before it as we tease out its secrets. Only an idiot thinks that a Bronze Age herding culture had all the answers.
WE DONT LIKE THE GOD IDEA BECAUSE WE DOOOONT WANT TO LIVE BY ANY RULE... ITS SIMPLE AS THAT, WE PREFER THE SIMPLE IDEA THAT WE CAME FROM MONKEYS AND THAT SOME DAY EVRY ONE WOULD DIE FOR EVER AND EVER.... BUT LIVE BY THE RULE OF A CREATOR? .... NEVAAAAA !!!... RIGHT?
The worldwide flood is an event that can never have happened in the way people usually think. Many flood legends also refer to a dry seabed. So the flood was a hughe tidal wave that must have moved over the earth. And it happened more often. To learn much more about recurring floods, the cycle of civilizations, ancient high tech and aliens, read the e-book: "what I know about Nibiru". You can read it nicely on any computer, tablet or smartphone. Just search for: know Nibiru
I had a broad and thorough science education, and I always thought that millions or billions of years was an extremist view. Millions or billions of years represents the failure of mathematics at every level of education. People just don't realize how extreme that idea is.
@@NorthForkFisherman if people could conceive of millions, or billions of years, they would never be fooled by the charlatan extremist, Social Darwinists. Social Darwinism is a gentler term for "Nazis" and "Marxists", who are extremists. They all have the same agenda, applying "selection pressures " (killing) to "breed superior humans ", to quote Karl Marx. These extremist ideologies have not gone away. They literally just changed the names to Neo-Nazis, Neo-Liberals, and Woke. Beware of extremists, fanatics, and elitists. They are ravening wolves in sheep's clothing.
@@maylingng4107 wrong. Darwin was a GEOLOGIST. His books, Origin of Species and Descent of Man were not scientific. They were popular books, meaning basically pseudoscience. They were never subjected to scientific rigor, and they were packed with racist, antifeminist, antisemitic language. It's a wonder they're still in print! Charles Lyell was a well connected lawyer, NOT a geologist, and he was the one who came up with "millions of years ". He was also an antisemite, whose stated goal was to "get Moses (Jews and also the Bible) out of science. " Charles Darwin, Charles Lyell, and Karl Marx laid the foundation for the Holocaust. Marx had some Jewish ancestry, but his writing against Jews was horrible. If you ever actually read anything they wrote, you would know this, but you might be influenced to become a radical antisemite chauvinist.
@@NorthForkFisherman because the numbers are so big, they're actually theoretical. In other words, you can't actually conceive of numbers so large with a human brain. Such numbers are meaningless to humans. And there's nothing scientific about Lyell's ideas. It was all conjecture and speculation. Anyway, Lyell has been debunked, because his "evidence " for millions of years turned out to be deposits from a fairly recent volcanic eruption. And yet, Uniformitarians still rule science with an iron fist, destroying geology.
1. The most common date given for the flood is 4400 years ago, right in the middle of the Egyptians first burst of city and temple building, why did they not notice they were under water? 2. To flood the planet to over top the highest mountain you would need about 3 to 4 times the known amount of water in the world, where did all that water come from? 3. After the flood, where did the water go? 4. How did 8 people build a wooden ship bigger than any wooden ship built in modern times when THAT ship was reinforced with steel bracing and still broke up and sank. 5. How did animals with odd diets get to the ark? 6. How did 8 people deal with the needs of 10000 animals on the ark? Each animal had to be fed, watered, exercised and the poop scooped. Working 12 hours a day they would need to deal with over 100 animals per hour. 7. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood. 8. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood. 9. Well according to the Book of Jasher, the wives ARE sisters. Jasher 5: 32-35 "And thou shalt choose for thy sons three maidens, from the daughters of men, and they shall be wives to thy sons. And Noah rose up, and he made the ark, in the place where God had commanded him, and Noah did as God had ordered him. In his five hundred and ninety-fifth year Noah commenced to make the ark, and he made the ark in five years, as the Lord had commanded. Then Noah took the three daughters of Eliakim, son of Methuselah, for wives for his sons, as the Lord had commanded Noah." If a species undergoes a population bottleneck, the lack of genetic diversity can be seen in the members of that species. NO such bottle neck exists in the overwhelming majority of species. 10. 4400 years is not a long enough time to generate the diversity in the human population to give rise to the different populations of people we see on the planet especially when you consider that effectively the genetic diversity was limited to 4 people, Noah and his wife and Eliakim and his wife. 11. Ken Ham's phony Ark has a million Dollar + heating, ventilation and air conditioning system that ensures that workers and visitors do not suffocate in the building. According to the bible, the original Ark had one window, 18 in square. Sorry people but if Ham's estimate of 1600 species represented by a minimum of 4000 animals, they would have suffocated. 12. There is NO trace of any global flood in the geology of the world. Lots of local and regional floods, yes, but NO global flood. 13. Oh and by the way, for those fools at CMI who think Noah's Flood was a real event, a Tomb has been discovered in Egypt dated to 4400 years ago, about the time of the mythical flood (according to many biblical creationists). This raises several questions. a. If the Tomb was built before the flood, how did it escape being flooded? b. If the Tomb was built after the flood, the Earth's population would have been devistated so who built the tomb? c. Why is this Tomb perfectly in line with Egyptian culture before and after the fairy tale flood? If everybody in Egypt were killed in the flood, the Egyptian culture from before the flood would have been lost. Untouched 4,400-year-old tomb discovered at Saqqara, Egypt National Geographic, PUBLISHED DECEMBER 17, 2018
Sorry I don't have all the answers, but as far as question 2 goes I am willing to bet you believe science as long as it does not involve a higher power or authority. So, when tectonic plates collide mountains are thrust upward. The mountains were not as high during the flood. Yes, I do believe in scientific observation, but science cannot prove all the answers either, can they? Science is the study of how God did what He did...
they've got the dating wrong just like the bones of the heathen army found in england in the 1980's they were off by 200 years because they vikings only ate fish and fish have less carbon 14. so if the whole world was covered in the waters with less carbon 14 the dates are wrong.
1. The most common date given for the flood is 4400 years ago, right in the middle of the Egyptians first burst of city and temple building, why did they not notice they were under water? 2. To flood the planet to over top the highest mountain you would need about 3 to 4 times the known amount of water in the world, where did all that water come from? 3. After the flood, where did the water go? 4. How did 8 people build a wooden ship bigger than any wooden ship built in modern times when THAT ship was reinforced with steel bracing and still broke up and sank. 5. How did animals with odd diets get to the ark? 6. How did 8 people deal with the needs of 10000 animals on the ark? Each animal had to be fed, watered, exercised and the poop scooped. Working 12 hours a day they would need to deal with over 100 animals per hour. 7. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood. 8. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood. 9. Well according to the Book of Jasher, the wives ARE sisters. Jasher 5: 32-35 "And thou shalt choose for thy sons three maidens, from the daughters of men, and they shall be wives to thy sons. And Noah rose up, and he made the ark, in the place where God had commanded him, and Noah did as God had ordered him. In his five hundred and ninety-fifth year Noah commenced to make the ark, and he made the ark in five years, as the Lord had commanded. Then Noah took the three daughters of Eliakim, son of Methuselah, for wives for his sons, as the Lord had commanded Noah." If a species undergoes a population bottleneck, the lack of genetic diversity can be seen in the members of that species. NO such bottle neck exists in the overwhelming majority of species. 10. 4400 years is not a long enough time to generate the diversity in the human population to give rise to the different populations of people we see on the planet especially when you consider that effectively the genetic diversity was limited to 4 people, Noah and his wife and Eliakim and his wife. 11. Ken Ham's phony Ark has a million Dollar + heating, ventilation and air conditioning system that ensures that workers and visitors do not suffocate in the building. According to the bible, the original Ark had one window, 18 in square. Sorry people but if Ham's estimate of 1600 species represented by a minimum of 4000 animals, they would have suffocated. 12. There is NO trace of any global flood in the geology of the world. Lots of local and regional floods, yes, but NO global flood. 13. Oh and by the way, for those fools at CMI who think Noah's Flood was a real event, a Tomb has been discovered in Egypt dated to 4400 years ago, about the time of the mythical flood (according to many biblical creationists). This raises several questions. a. If the Tomb was built before the flood, how did it escape being flooded? b. If the Tomb was built after the flood, the Earth's population would have been devistated so who built the tomb? c. Why is this Tomb perfectly in line with Egyptian culture before and after the fairy tale flood? If everybody in Egypt were killed in the flood, the Egyptian culture from before the flood would have been lost. Untouched 4,400-year-old tomb discovered at Saqqara, Egypt National Geographic, PUBLISHED DECEMBER 17, 2018
@@paulwood6636 No liar, these have NOT been answered. Oh, I have gotten replies and denial that these are relevent, I have recieved fairy tales and outright lies, but nothing that is worth more than a dog turd on the sidewalk, which, come to think of it, is all the Noah's Ark story and the whole bible is worth. Have a nice day.
The manmade created calendar is off by years so we have estimated time by studying not only the Bible but what was found in the history of archaeology and the study of the land from what I understood. We use carbon dating which is estimated to be factual but is it since those carbon dating funds are said to go back millions of years? We don't know all the unimaginable facts of nature of our own Earth nor are we supposed to know all the facts of Creation but are to trust that our Creator whom most call God, is fact that we may have eternal life through Christ Jesus.
@@yvetteschneider5172 The manmade created calendar is off by years so we have estimated time by studying not only the Bible but what was found in the history of archaeology and the study of the land from what I understood. We use carbon dating which is estimated to be factual but is it since those carbon dating funds are said to go back millions of years? We don't know all the unimaginable facts of nature of our own Earth nor are we supposed to know all the facts of Creation but are to trust that our Creator whom most call God, is fact that we may have eternal life through Christ Jesus.
All of these have been addressed, many in the bible if youd simply read it. As far as Egypt, its clear the people who build the megalithic structures are NOT the people who made the hieroglyphs
I remember being told that geological processes were slow and I knew, even in middle school, that that was pure malarkey!
Probably why you flunked out?
@@NorthForkFisherman
"Your flood never happened"
Nah bruv. Millions of years never happened.
Can't have fossilized tracks of animals, in layers, millions of years before the layers in which actual animals appeared the fake azz geologic column.
“Animal tracks almost always precede body fossils in the fossil record, as paleontologist Dr Marcus Ross explains:
“This is a pattern we see in several different groups, where their footprints are first, and their body parts are later. For the trilobites, for the amphibians, for the dinosaurs-the first time I find evidence of them in the fossil record, it’s from trackways, not from hard parts. From an old-earth perspective, that’s really weird, and hard to grapple with, because you have millions of years of trackway production, then ultimately the animal that made it. But that obviously doesn’t make a whole lot of sense. Because if there’s trackways, there’s animals, and those animals have bones and teeth and shells to them, why aren’t they fossilized? Instead the pattern is telling us something different: there’s no time between when somebody leaves a track and when somebody’s buried.”
Dr. Marcus Ross
Phd paleontologist
@@NorthForkFisherman 🤡
My dad would drag his cows to this one holler anytime one would die. I found several fossilized rocks in that holler from cows
@@NorthForkFishermanright, because animals can faze themselves hundreds of square feet into solid stone right ?
I believe that !
Amen the Lord God laid down his word and behold his word holds true for all to see. In the beginning.
bollox
@@jammapcb Science has caused more problems for the human race than superstition.
This is an especially good review of the evidences of a Great Flood.
Yeah, quite clever lies, costum tailored for people who know nothing about geology.
thank you for sharing this clip 👍
Slow change is true most of the time, but there are times, when large changes, do happen.
Mount Saint Helens showed that to be true!
And nothing says the rate of processes is constant either.
Even the speed of light is slowing!
Why not a wolf fossil and a T Rex and a trilobite fossil all in the homogeneous level?
It has to do with rising floodwaters, and the different areas of where those creatures would have lived.
@@Hydroverse Doesn't work. Why would they be segregated by "area" like that?
If there was no extinction as science recognizes it, there is no reason to expect the stratification of fossils we observe. Pterosaurs, if nobody else, should be mixed into all the layers, depending on when and where an individual fell from the sky. Animals living in tall trees (as in today's rainforests) should be buried together, whether they are from today's fauna or what science says are ancient. Not all dinosaurs were large and other animals other than dinosaurs lived during the dinosaur age as well. Yet, dinosaurs, regardless of age, tend to be buried together. In fact, there are three distinct ages of dinosaurs science detects and they don't intermix. "The flood" is not a good explanation as to why because (for instance) there are large plant eating dinosaurs in every dinosaur age, but they are still strictly segregated in the record.
We also have areas where the given stratification indicates a very different climate than today's. For instance, there are rock layers in Antarctica that show a tropical flora and fauna. But these are particular layers only.
There's a lot that would be different if so many creatures died in a global catastrophe and there was no extinction before the flood.
That would prove the biblical flood.
why no humans or large mammals in the supposed pre-flood layers?
The pre-flood layers would mostly be creation-week layers.
We need to keep in mind that before the dry land appeared the earth was covered in ocean , second day creation , just a thought
true! what got me was the findings of marine fossils up high, God created creatures day 5/6.
I have always read it as nothing but water, in the beginning. Then God created land, some of which became dry land.
It's quite interesting that the further planets that we know, Neptune, Uranus and the dwarf Pluto have ice because they are furthest from the sun yet our Earth also has ice although not covered by it. Makes me wonder if God created water first, if it wasn't ice, but I don't know much about science to understand that concept.
But the creatures in the sea were not created till day 5, and birds were created then too. The land creatures, came on day 6, so water would no longer have covered the earth when animals were being created.
and the Earth was created before the stars,
Such a shame that our education systems teach students to look at things like geology with a settled fact attitude.
no room for interpretation they have their minds made up already.
Great video!
Wow, this is such great information.
and then the truth is revealed. this is a religious presentation. not a geological presentation.
It's a geological presentation from a biblical perspective, as opposed to a geological presentation from a naturalistic perspective, which the mainstream view is. So they are both geological presentations from the perspective of particular (but different) presuppositions.
@@THUTH-ix3tt
"That means it is made up..."
So you're not interested a sensible discussion, only in maligning. Not surprising.
yes, let's see the atheist perspective its equally biased.
The theory of evolution is philosophical and nor scientific. No one saw the Big Bang, the formation of the solar system and the Earth, or the genesis of life on Earth.
Experimental or observational science is the study of things which can be seen and studied. Origin science is a philosophical view of something which has occurred but cannot be observed and studied.
The beginning of the universe, the solar system, and the Earth was not and cannot be proved by experimental pr observational science; it requires a secular or religious philosophical answer.
Scientists recently found an underground ocean which contains three times the amount of water in the Earth's oceans; that explains how there could be enough water to cover the entire Earth.
I love this, but one question I have is where are all the fossils of the people that were alive back then? I completely believe in God and the flood. I just have that one question
if it was a flood, its not only water but land aswell, it grinds away every evidence where the flood passes through
95% of fossils are sea creatures.
@AnonYmous-yj9ib Yes, and evidence can be misinterpreted and manufactured. Which is why, lawyers and not scientists" run the world.
Evidence, shmevidence.
they would have lived in different areas than dinosaurs most likely i mean would you live next to them?
@@marcusmuse4787 the dinosaurs were long gone by then.
I wish I could remember the name of the individual that said " WE JUST ACCEPT ANY THEORY,NO MATTER,HOW PREPOSTEROUS,BECAUSE WE CAN NOT ALLOW A HOLY FOOT IN THE DOOR".
Like I said,I can't remember who said this,but it's very telling!
ALL POWER AND GLORY TO YHWH,GOD,THE KING OF KINGS! BLESS HIS HOLY HOLY NAME!!
What matters is evidence and geologists have not found evidence of a global flood.
@@JLBorges2803 - There is a massive amount of evidence of a global flood. Many of the great MYSTERIES of geology are themselves evidence. An unwillingness to accept them as such does not change that fact.
_"An error does not become truth by reason of multiplied propagation, nor does truth become error because nobody sees it."_
*_Mahatma Gandhi_*
@@freemind..what mysteries are you referring to? Floods leave very particular deposits behind, without one that covers the globe fail to see how any mysteries point to a global flood
@@JLBorges2803 - You are right that Floods leave behind evidence, and a global flood would leave evidence beyond that left by any other type of flood; evidence that is largely misunderstood because normal floods are not capable of producing such evidence. I'll lay out a few of these here, but there are far too many to discuss in great detail. Hopefully some of these examples will ring true and open the eyes of someone reading this.. as they did with my own.
@@JLBorges2803 *GLOBAL FLOOD EVIDENCE*
*1) Surface Deposits of Fine-Grained Basalt* - There are non-vesicular basalt deposits on the surface of every continent in the world. An example of "Vesicles" are the holes in lava rock which are from gases escaping as the lava cools. The only place on Earth that non-vesicular basalt is forming today is at the bottoms of the oceans. Why?? *Because to get fully non-vesicular basalt, it must be extruded under **_AT LEAST 9,800 FEET OF WATER._* Non-vesicular basalt deposits on the surfaces of all the world's continents is evidence that *all the world's continents* were at one point covered by at least 9,800 feet of water!
By the way, those basalt deposits are demonstrably YOUNG and *cannot be more than several thousands of years old,* as indicated by their *obvious LACK OF EROSION.*
*2) Topsoil* - The Global Flood happened in 2345 BC, so around 4,400 years ago. An interesting time-frame corroboration is *topsoil.* Based on global averages, it takes around *500 years to form one inch of topsoil.* The global average amount of topsoil extant today is *9 inches.* Therefore *ALL of the world's topsoil was created in the last ~4500 years... a significant proof since all topsoil would have been scoured away by the Flood.* Otherwise, we would expect to see *massively thick topsoil* that formed over millions of years in at least some areas of the world.. *but there are none.* We should also see *multiple previous layers* of topsoil at various points in the geological column, that have been buried by younger sedimentary layers.. *but there are none.*
*3) Petrified Pine Cones* - The Global Flood was a *one-time event* that happened in the *Springtime* of the year 2345 BC. Petrified pine cones confirm both of these claims. All fossilization and petrification occurred during the Global Flood. We can confidently say this because there are very specific requirements for the lithification of organisms; these requirements are Super-Saturated Water, High Temperatures, and High Pressures. *During the Global Flood was the only time in history that the environment was right for fossilization/Petrification.*
Petrified pine cones have been found all over the world, but *no one has ever found one that was OPEN.* All have been *CLOSED with SEEDS still inside.* This means that the petrification process began during a very limited stage of development, which could only have been in the Springtime. Since we have never found an open petrified pine cone anywhere on Earth, but have found closed petrified pine cones worldwide, we can know that they are the product of a *SINGULAR WORLDWIDE EVENT that began in the SPRINGTIME.* Again, this could only have been produced by *Noah's Flood.*
*4) Salt Domes* - Virtually *PURE-SALT salt domes could never be formed over millions of years through evaporation or any other process. The vast geological ‘evaporite’ deposits are not evaporates.* Do scientists even know the actual *ORIGIN OF SALT??* Most do not.
*The largest single-mineral rock formation in the world is taller than the tallest mountain on the Earth. It is a salt dome, it is underground, and it is more than 7 MILES high.* Scientists have tried to explain their formation, but all theories have failed. One of the most difficult aspects to explain is the *purity of the domes.*
*At many salt domes, the salt is 99% pure sodium chloride, or halite.* The Avery Island salt dome is 99.25% NaCl. The Dundee and Sylvania salt body in Michigan is 99.89% NaCl. Salt from the Redmond Salt Mine in Utah is 97.97% sodium chloride. *Evaporation is a slow process.* In the time it takes water to evaporate and crystals to form, *silt, sand, or other detritus* would be blown or washed over the deposits. If the *evaporate theory* were true, *thousands of layers of impurities should be evident,* as they would have accumulated in these natural deposits. However, these layers are generally *non-existent in salt domes.*
There is a huge amount of information to unpack here.. so I'll cut to the chase: *Salt and Oil share a common origin..* which is why they are found together. That origin? *MICROBIAL WASTE.*
There are *3 critical factors for SALT CREATION:*
*1- Acid-Base Biosalt Origin -* Natural salts originated from the neutralization of chemical acids and bases created by the proliferation of biological waste.
*2- High-Temperature / High Pressure Environment -* Large salt deposits form only in supercritical conditions, when salt-water is at an elevated temperature and pressure, like those found in the depths of the ocean.
*3- The Global Flood Event -* The only time in world history where both the Biosalt origin of salt and the requisite global environmental conditions existed, creating kilometers-thick deposits of pure salt throughout the upper crust of the Earth.
*5) Arch Formations* -
*6) Skipperocks* -
*7) Pedestal Formations* -
*8) Alluvial Fans* -
*9) Obsidian* -
*10) Columnar Basalt* -
*11) Double-Terminated Crystals* -
*12) Limestone, Dolomite & Loess* -
*13) Oil, Gas & Coal* -
*14) Pyrite* -
*15) Ore* -
*16) Surface Chalcedony* -
*17) Geodes* -
*18) Rock Varnish* -
Hi - Please I watch these channels hoping to see a comprehensive timeline for YEC, however, all we get is Flood, Flood, Flood. You really need to show ALL the things God has flung at this planet - Please include and explain the asteroid impacts, such as Theia, Vredefort and Chicxulub. Also Dr. Snelling (an Australian), we need also to look at possibly the largest impact crater (just discovered), the Deniliquin crater. The asteroid impacts look to dwarf the Flood and we really need the experts to explain when these events, along with decades long impact winters fit into the timeline. I'm also curious as to why no ancient cultures mention these asteroid impacts in their writings - Any ideas welcomed.
I personally believe they happened after the Flood since craters are found on top of flood rocks.
It's my thought that the asteroids would be responsible for breaking up the crust. This is based on the asymmetry of the reconstructed continental crust being more broken up than the oceanic crust. Also, recombining the continents makes it apparent that most of the divergent boundaries are located within the supercontinent, while most convergent boundaries are found around the continent's perimeter.
Lastly, it can be deduced that the axial tilt has changed. I say this because day and night are seasonal changes in the higher latitudes. If God originally created the entire world to be inhabited with vegetarians, then higher latitudes would have needed sunlight year-round. This translates to a smaller tilt, which would be closer to the Moon's orbital plane like other planets and their moons.
Then why don't the asteroid impacts appear in ancient writings? They clearly dwarf the Flood, and caused global impact winters, plus failure of vegetation stocks on a worldwide basis, which led to global mass extinctions. They also introduced Iridium and ash layers in geological strata that evidence the extent of their impact.
Then on pre-Flood vegetarianism theories, we have fossilized dinosaurs that have fossilized animals inside as part of their last meals...
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A world-wide flood explains a lot about the fossil record.
Only if you ignore pretty much all the details.
@@NorthForkFisherman
Like what details? Please explain. The details matter.
@@sliglusamelius8578 Pollen deposition. The heat balance. The obvious violations of natural laws that are required of almost all sedimentary deposits. Ostracods. Fusain deposits. And on and on.
Now, you need to tell us all here how a global flood solves all these problems. You do understand what I'm talking about?
Right?
@@sliglusamelius8578 For openers, a lot of fossils are buried by sandstorms and even tree sap (amber). Even some fossils buried in water are formed by processes incompatible with the turbulence from a supposed global flood (or even a local one).
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Silt would be deposited as the flood receded.
What was the estimated height of the highest mountain, pre-flood?
The Bible tells all about the flood. Noah was instructed to close the ark door and then the flood waters came. 40 days and 40 nights it rained flood waters. All in the Bible stories.
God shut Noah and everyone else in (Gen 7:16).
Why should I believe anything in the bible? It is fairy tales, bad history and barbaric "morality".
Would you say these things were much larger than today?
The western interior seaway went across the western states of America. Couldn’t the drying up of the sea cause mammal and marine fossils to be mixed together. Also countries like Australia could it have been once underwater then the oceans started shrinking having yhe same effect?
Those animals would not have fossilized
Crazy how this is actually fairly accurate to the great world flood about 10,000 years ago
I’m genuinely curious, not trying to troll or be contentious. What makes you think there was a global flood 10,000 years ago? According to the Biblical timeline figured from the genealogies, the Flood would’ve been more recent either ~2,300 BC or ~2,700 BC depending on whether using the Mesoretic or Septuagint dates.
@@jefffinkbonner9551 While I basically agree with you Jeff, I have heard variations from 2,300 BC to 3,400 BC. Certain scriptures, like you mentioned and I forget the mans name. It has to do with Earths wobble, like a ringing bell. Anyway, *_God Bless_*
6,000 years .
Appolgies age of the world since Adam 6000 years.
its not though... no genocidal layer..... meteor yes... flood no. Stop listening to these fucking retards.
Are we ignoring the Heat Problem still or just invoking a miracle to get around it?
To be fair, if one starts with God creating creatures out of the ground, then anything is possible.
I do suspect though that Noah's Flood was part of a much bigger catastrophe. There's volcanism on Venus, Mars, Europa, Io, and other worlds. There are also galaxies colliding and being rapidly consumed by the supermassive black holes (as it is indicated by their jets), which coincides with 2 Peter 3:10.
If true, then superluminal acceleration can be linked to the evidence of accelerated nuclear decay, and any infrared radiation that was emitted could have undergone a massive Doppler Effect to mitigate the heat that atomic decay normally causes as infrared radiation is converted into other wavelengths.
No, there is nothing that could accelerate nuclear decay on this planet.
@@snaptrap5558 Do you know that decay doesn't change in different gravity fields? That's a condition that everyone overlooks, and doesn't think to consider.
@@snaptrap5558 Yes, and that is pointed out.
But sometimes, just to play along, scientists will agree to "assume" that nuclear decay can be accelerated even as we don't know how it could happen. When one does that, one gets ungodly amount of heat from compressing four billion years of planetary radioactive decay to a single year.
So, the amusing answer is "even if you could do it, you'd destroy the planet."
Creationists are, as I type, busily trying and failing to square this particular circle.
How about the flood evidences that AREN'T where they should be? For instance, how do you explain the relative ages of mountains? Why weren't the Sierra Nevadas eroded as much as the Appalachians during the Flood? Why is there no evidence of a flood in ice core data? Ice cores from Greenland have been dated back more than 40,000 years by counting annual layers, and the Vostok Antarctica cores go to 420,000 years. A worldwide flood would be expected to leave a layer of sediments, noticeable changes in salinity and oxygen isotope ratios, fractures from buoyancy and thermal stresses, a hiatus in trapped air bubbles, and probably other evidence. Why doesn't such evidence show up? How are the polar ice caps even possible? Such a mass of water as the Flood would have provided sufficient buoyancy to float the polar caps off their beds and break them up. They wouldn't regrow quickly. In fact, the Greenland ice cap would not regrow under modern (last 10,000 yrs) climatic conditions. Why did the Flood not leave traces on the sea floors? A year long flood should be recognizable in sea bottom cores by (1) an uncharacteristic amount of terrestrial detritus, (2) different grain size distributions in the sediment, (3) a shift in oxygen isotope ratios (rain has a different isotopic composition from seawater), (4) a massive extinctions. Why do none of these show up? And why is there no evidence of a flood in tree ring dating? Tree ring records go back more than 12,000 years, with no evidence of such a catastrophe during that time.
Because young earth creationists want to ignore and deny the real evidence to defend their fantasy evidence and beliefs.
tree ring data has rings science can't determine what they mean even one your atheist hero's bill nye agrees with that.
Are you looking at this as an Atheist/scientist or a believer? you might have a biased opinion either way. You find what you're looking for.
The Flood would have taken place while the Earth still had one supercontinent (I personally believe it was more circular after putting South America into the Ross Sea and Africa into the Weddell Sea). Given how the sedimentary layers and coal beds line up when reconnected, then the continent would have remained intact throughout the Flood.
A century later would mark the beginnings of Continental Drift and the Ice Age during the days of Peleg. With the original ocean currents there would be warmer waters brought up from lower latitudes to higher latitudes. This would create two massive glaciers. The North Glacier would stretch from upper North America to Europe and northern Asia. The South Glacier would cover almost half of South America, all of Antarctica, the southern portion of Africa, and lower parts of Australia/ New Zealand.
These glaciers would form rapidly due to the constant supply of snow/freezing rain coming over the arctic and antarctic regions. Only when the continents moved further along as mountains were formed would the ocean currents change alongside changes to the atmospheric circulation.
This would lead to the melting of certain glaciers, and would cause extensive flooding like the Mississippi Valley as water drained into the Gulf of Mexico.
This would lead to another climate shift as the loss of ice on continents would make them lighter, and the oceans would get higher. Any ecosystem that depended on the meltwater from the ice would have perished. Eventually the system has reached close to an equilibrium of what we have today.
Oh my God there's a part two? There was no global flood dudes?
When was this actually made? Dr. Snelling is a lot older now and I know for a fact that video was not that bad only 6 years ago…
It was recorded in 2005. Thanks for watching.
1. The most common date given for the flood is 4400 years ago, right in the middle of the Egyptians first burst of city and temple building, why did they not notice they were under water?
2. To flood the planet to over top the highest mountain you would need about 3 to 4 times the known amount of water in the world, where did all that water come from?
3. After the flood, where did the water go?
4. How did 8 people build a wooden ship bigger than any wooden ship built in modern times when THAT ship was reinforced with steel bracing and still broke up and sank.
5. How did animals with odd diets get to the ark?
6. How did 8 people deal with the needs of 10000 animals on the ark? Each animal had to be fed, watered, exercised and the poop scooped. Working 12 hours a day they would need to deal with over 100 animals per hour.
7. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood.
8. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood.
9. Well according to the Book of Jasher, the wives ARE sisters. Jasher 5: 32-35 "And thou shalt choose for thy sons three maidens, from the daughters of men, and they shall be wives to thy sons. And Noah rose up, and he made the ark, in the place where God had commanded him, and Noah did as God had ordered him. In his five hundred and ninety-fifth year Noah commenced to make the ark, and he made the ark in five years, as the Lord had commanded. Then Noah took the three daughters of Eliakim, son of Methuselah, for wives for his sons, as the Lord had commanded Noah." If a species undergoes a population bottleneck, the lack of genetic diversity can be seen in the members of that species. NO such bottle neck exists in the overwhelming majority of species.
10. 4400 years is not a long enough time to generate the diversity in the human population to give rise to the different populations of people we see on the planet especially when you consider that effectively the genetic diversity was limited to 4 people, Noah and his wife and Eliakim and his wife.
11. Ken Ham's phony Ark has a million Dollar + heating, ventilation and air conditioning system that ensures that workers and visitors do not suffocate in the building. According to the bible, the original Ark had one window, 18 in square. Sorry people but if Ham's estimate of 1600 species represented by a minimum of 4000 animals, they would have suffocated.
12. There is NO trace of any global flood in the geology of the world. Lots of local and regional floods, yes, but NO global flood.
13. Oh and by the way, for those fools at CMI who think Noah's Flood was a real event, a Tomb has been discovered in Egypt dated to 4400 years ago, about the time of the mythical flood (according to many biblical creationists). This raises several questions.
a. If the Tomb was built before the flood, how did it escape being flooded?
b. If the Tomb was built after the flood, the Earth's population would have been devistated so who built the tomb?
c. Why is this Tomb perfectly in line with Egyptian culture before and after the fairy tale flood? If everybody in Egypt were killed in the flood, the Egyptian culture from before the flood would have been lost.
Untouched 4,400-year-old tomb discovered at Saqqara, Egypt National Geographic, PUBLISHED DECEMBER 17, 2018
I doubt the date was exact. Did you witness it?
Go to the Ark Encounter in Kentucky and it puts Evolution next to the young earth Creation.
@@joinjen3854 This is the aproximate date for this phony event given by Young Earth Creationists. It is impossible to test as it is based on nonsense.
@@joinjen3854 No thank you, I get lied to far more than enough just refuting creationist nonsense on CZcams, I refuse to pay Ken Ham my money for more lies.
@@walkergarya May God bless you anyway.
Where we see rugged terrain like grand canyon, was there originally caves under, and the weight of the flood above caved it in?
@Johnson Knoxville that’s crazy talk
@Johnson Knoxville Mormon?
The canyon is believed to be carved out by a lake being drained after the Flood.
I wanna know how big that bee fossil was
Did you find out? I’m curious too.
The bee specimen shown by Dr. Snelling in this video is an imprint of a Palaeovespa florissantia or in layman's terms, an extinct type of "wasp." It was no larger or smaller in size than the various types of wasps we see today.
Dr Snelling, amongst the fossils of different creatures all buried and smashed together by catastrophic flood, are there human fossils amongst them…?
I thought you said that the fossils had to be formed catastrophically by burying.
How does water rapidly bury something in sediment on top of a mountain?
The mountains were formed simultaneously by extreme volcanic activity and earthquakes
@@Hope-kx9lz You don't get sedimentary rock from volcanoes.
The sedimentary rocks were formed alongside volcanic layers. Once those sedimentary rocks were partially set, then they were folded in the following generations to where you have marine fossils at higher elevations.
@@Hydroverse That's not what we see in the geologic column
It have many secrets,what the earth was lookalike before the flood and where is ocean now it was land then and etc..
This guy speeks to fast its a presentation not debate where you take it slow and can ask question
Asking a Creationist if there’s evidence for the Flood of Noah is like asking a 12 year old Justin Bieber groupie for an honest, unbiased critique of the latest Justin Bieber album.
The same is true of an atheistic scientist, as Dr. Snelling points out. Occam's Razor -- the simplest explanation is the best -- section of the video discusses how point of view affects interpretation of fossil record.
and an atheist evolutionist also has a biased view.
Rocks were below sea level, then over time they moved above it.
Are you saying that the rocks migrated?
@@EB-pi9dt Do you know about tectonic movements?
@@EB-pi9dt continent migrate.
Australia moves 25 mm a year north into asia.
the great fountains of the deep burst forth and that would have definitely affected plate tectonics.
You said the only eyewitness to the flood was God Himself? What of Noah and his family?
Why do they keep using the term "evidence(s)"? The plural of "evidence" is "evidence". Just like we don't say "deer(s) hunting.
Challenges to science are not offered here
there are big events, but not one huge event when it comes to floods
Rocks with ocean fossils on mountains means the fossil laden rocks were uplifted due to orogeny- the uplifting of ancient sediments.
Huckster to make a name for himself
The flood was not world wide. Water covered the entire land. NOT the entire Earth. The Hebrew word eretz means land. It does not mean the entire Earth. There is no way to argue this. The idea that water covered the entire globe is simply a traditional tale that has persisted.
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With all respect, and I can accept the worldwide flood concept; this does not settle the issue of CREATION in any way.
I think there was a catastrophic flood , but I think the flood came after the impact in the ocean to cause the tsunami that buried those animals together. With the meteor strike could have water going up into the atmosphere same time causing a message tsunami that water in the atmosphere would then have to rain out . I don't think it was just on strike either. I do think it through the planet for a loop
You should read Dr Walt Brown's book, free PDF version online. "The Hydroplate Theory"
Bryan Nickel's channel has videos explaining, graphically as well as having the address for the free PDF.
Dr Brown's book can also be purchased in hardcover, with excellent photographs along with the physics involved.
That wouldn't have accounted for enough water to cover the mountains.
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Mountains didn't exist befofe the flood.
They rose up after.
@@RS54321 in psalms 104 it says the hills went up and the valleys went down so the mountains weren't at their current levels and mt Everests summit is made of limestone, so it was definitely underwater and not just that mountain, but they all have evidence of being submerged. So, the bible is correct the mountains were underwater. Now there's just the timeframe of when and how this happened. if the great fountains of the deep burst forth that would have affected plate tectonics.
@@marcusmuse4787 That makes a lot of sense. I've thought about this since I posted my previous comment-thanks for the reply.
My personal view is that this planet has undergone many disasters. Many as in dozens and dozens. The world has been destroyed and remade, over and over. The last disaster was on the order of 6 to 7 thousand years ago. Before that was the Younger Dryas. Each time was like a new Genesis unfolding.
Doesn't continental Granite Float on Basalt.
It does not make sense, land will erode and sink with new Continents rising out of the "Basalt" ocean floor, with mud.
Granitic Continents can be flooded over, but sinking.
Man will accept any theory if it's "not" in the Bible, how strange!
Sad but true.
No theory is in the Bible, so I'm not sure where you're getting at.
Your right , I worded it wrong thankyou for that, that bible is the one true book of our past, present and future ,yes this "book" of such Holy,Godly power to the believer nonsense to those that are to parish by disbeliefth.
Old Earth creationism is as likely as young earth creationism.
Why's that?
Both can be possible. I kind of side on the old Earth theory.
The earth was here long before man , and it was covered with water and had a thick cloud cover, and their was no land that's why it explained in Genesis how the earth was formed. God couses the cloud cover to dissipate and set the rotation of day and night and the moon, then he couses the land to come up from under the water.
Lol... Terrible explination
At some point I think God separated us from the animals especially primates and created us possibly through evolution, but he definitely set us apart from all other creatures at some point. We are unique and special, but we have work to do as having dominion or stewardship over other creatures and the earth what's needed? compassion, love, hope for a better future. To live the way the bible shows us.
That is the question to be popularized, Uniformitarianism versus Catastrophism.
Which theory is supported by the majority of the geological evidence .
How do fossilized footprints form in a flood?
Another fun one to ask about is fusain deposits. Also pollen and ostracods! Creationists never know what to say at that point.
maybe they were formed after.
@@marcusmuse4787 So then the fossils aren't all formed in the same event
The Flood was progressive over a period of months. You'd have a wave of water carrying sediments inland, and then they'd be temporarily exposed to allow creatures to leave their footprints in the soft sediments.
@@Hydroverse The Bible doesn't say this. It says that there was a sudden inrush of water and constant rain, which killed everything. Nowhere does it talk about gentle tides coming in and out over months, which would have destroyed foodprints.
How many fossilized footprints do you find at the beach? None, because the tide destroys them, lol.
There was no global flood. Many ancient civilizations continued to flourish around the time this was purported to have happened. The Earth is 24 thousand miles in circumference. There's simply no way all the land masses were covered in water killing everyone but those on that boat built solely by a 600 year old man and his sons all in their hundreds themselves. 🤔
What about the mass body of water found underground ? That amounts to the global flood type level of water
@@karlirosek the earth is covered to 70% of its surface area by water so there's no way there's an amount near that underground. A worldwide flood would have wiped out tens of millions which it didn't as it never happened.
@@petergreen2552 uhhhh, you know how to do research orrrrrr ???
@@karlirosek You certainly don't Provide a citation to support your claims.
@@NorthForkFisherman look it up i wont wipe your ass for you
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Two comments:
First, In the outcrop mentioned by Dr. Snelling was the whale found in the SAME layer as the marsupial? If not then this can be explained by marine deposition followed by a regression and terrestrial conditions prevailed when the marsupial lived and was buried.
Second, why does Dr. Snelling think the layers in the Grand Canyon had to be deposited in an elevator-type setting?
By "elevator-type setting", are you referring to his comment that under the mainstream view the land would have had to sink below the sea level and rise above it several times in succession? I believe that IS the mainstream view, not Snelling's. And that is what you're proposing for the Fossil Bluff formation that you are questioning. For more information on that, find the article "Tasmania’s fossil bluff" by Snelling.
This is one of the many amazing videos presenting conclusive evidence of the Biblical flood. Christ is soon returning, and He is sending throughout the world the irrefutable evidences of the Holy Bible's truth. However, I need to humbly correct one statement made in this video. At 24:45 the host proclaims that the only eye witness we have to the flood is God Himself. That is no longer true. Although nobody alive, today, witnessed the flood, the archeological record contains an affidavit from Noah himself. I think its making was directed by the Holy Spirit, because it symbolically presents not just the flood occurrence, but the basic, Biblical narrative of the flood as the Holy Spirit would inspire Moses' record of it centuries later. Watch Gobekli Tepe: Noah's Monument to God's Ark. Then be sure to watch Gobekli Tepe and the Mazzaroth, Part 1, and Part 2. You might roll your eyes right now, but you will be rolling your mind once you've seen what can now be known about Noah and his great granddad, Enoch.
Could the Grand Canyon been formed by both Noah’s flood and later by a second flood maybe a hundred years later, by huge lakes formed from the remains of the flood waters that drained into the Gulf of Mexico and formed what we see today as the Grand Canyon?
No.
Possibly the Missoula flood that happened quite a few times in the ice age
@@jeffreyhusack2400 Wrong part of the world, but working with real data. There are specific scablands that do exist and were carved during the recurring floods as the glaciers collapsed and rebuilt themselves. This is also similar to what we see in the Great Lakes and the submerged falls in Lake Huron.
The sedimentary layers of the Grand Canyon demonstrate that the process took place over millions of years. Tectonic uplift: up to 277 miles long, 18 miles wide, and 6,000 feet deep. The Grand Canyon has been carved, over millions of years, as the Colorado River cut through the Colorado Plateau. The Colorado Plateau is a large area that was elevated through tectonic uplift millions of years ago.
Furthermore, to carve out solid rocks to create this chasm, would require the pressure, pounds per square inch, of a water-cutting laser. No tree would be left standing. Do the Maths. The fact that there are trees remains still standing after millions of years is evidence that the process took place over the previously mentioned millions of years. You have not answered the objection that Creationists unknowingly believe in evolution on STEROIDS.
From two kinds, we produce the present diversity in a few thousand years? "In 5000 years, we would produce, the lynx, Tiger, leopard and cheetah. There are very small horses, donkeys, zebra and giraffes; that diversity in 5000 years is impossible and would be observed in a human lifetime. No transition animals' skeletal remains within the last 7000 years were ever observed. Skeletons of animals that lived in the last 50 000 years are identical to the present animals' skeletons." Some of these "kinds" cannot interbreed. As an example, the lion cannot interbreed with the common cat!
Let creationists explain why there are no sloths, polar bears, kangaroos and komodo dragons or their skeletal remains found in the Middle East? There were never there! They EVOLVE in their unique environments!
Noah’s flood debunks geologists claim that sediment levels took millions of years to form. The earth is not millions of years old.
Where did the heat go?
Nope. There is very little science that does NOT refute the fairy tale of Noah's flood.
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Geological evidence is irrelevant to those of us who "walk by faith, not by sight". There is no geological evidence for Christ's crucifixion, but we who are chosen and are born of the Spirit believe, and, know that it is true. Amen and amen. I need no visible evidence. It is all of .....faith.
If you go by faith in your bible, you are a fool.
youd do better not to call it noahs flood unles you can explain fossil formation in 5000 years. imediately ivokes thoughts of somone with a religious agenda. there was a flood but it wasnt noahs.
I don't think that's a question which needs to be answered.. we see flash fossilization, animals fossilized while giving birth etc.
There's also living fossils from every 'mass extinction event'.
Fossils can be formed very quickly, given the right conditions. Further, fossils _require_ sudden and deep burial, which doesn't occur on a large scale except with something like a global flood.
Mainstream scientists have a naturalistic agenda. They apply a principle known as "methodological naturalism", which involves ignoring evidence that favours a supernatural explanation.
@@PJRayment there is no such thing as evidence from nature that favors a supernatural explanation.. you're using the definition of philosophical naturalism for MN. Fossils don't require sudden and deep burial either. If all fossils were a consequence of the same event we'd see a homogeneous mixture of fossils encased in a homogeneous matrix of some sort of complex sediment across the globe..We don't however. Many taphonomies don't suggest anything remotely similar to that. Whole ecosystems with biotic and abiotic components are preserved intact.
@@patldennis
"there is no such thing as evidence from nature that favors a supernatural explanation.."
What's your evidence for that claim? And why wouldn't there be?
"you're using the definition of philosophical naturalism for MN"
Nope. MN says that supernatural explanations can't be considered.
"Fossils don't require sudden and deep burial either."
Experiments show that they do. If the burial isn't sudden, they will rot away before they fossilise. If it's not deep, they will still rot before they fossilise because there is still oxygen and bacteria in shallow sediments. There may be some rare circumstances where things are different, but that's the general requirement.
"If all fossils were a consequence of the same event we'd see a homogeneous mixture of fossils encased in a homogeneous matrix of some sort of complex sediment across the globe.."
Why would we? We are talking about a year-long global flood probably involving rapid plate tectonics. That would result in multiple currents in various directions in different local circumstances. And we'd expect sea-bottom creatures buried first, followed by other marine creatures, followed by coastal creatures, and so on. Rather like what we do see!
"Whole ecosystems with biotic and abiotic components are preserved intact."
Which would require sudden, deep, and widespread burial. The kind that a global flood would produce.
@@PJRayment evidence found in nature is natural evidence. If something is tangible (ie can be measured) then it is natural, not supernatural). This is a simple paradox you're not grasping here. It is by definition impossible to have evidence of the supernatural, bc if you can sense it in one way or another it ceases to be supernatural.
Once again,, MN says that the supernatural can't be considered out of practical necessity. PN says that it has to be considered bc it is all that exists, anyway.
Plenty of fossils show evidence of decay , modification by scavengers etc.
Fossils in amber, permafrost, and the La Brea targets didn't require deep burial. Some fossils show that organisms were clearly breathing and succumbed to things like volcanic ash before latrr.being buried. A dead fish can sit on the bottom of an anoxic lake indefinitely befire being buried completely (Decay by bacteria and fungi requires oxygen.)
A global flood would homogenize and mix up whole ecosystems. It wouldn't allow for the conditions for limestone, siltstone and sandstone to form as individual discrete strata, nor would it keep primitive ferns separate from flowering plants. Have you ever seen footage from a tsunami. Do you have any inkling of how many people went missing in the 2004 tsunami? It certainly didn't bury them where they were-it took them out of their context and put them in another environment
This could have been so good if he explained it in a different way and went into more detail using a more coherent analytical and logical scientific approach.. The way he's presenting a lot of this you can't really draw the conclusions that are being drawn
@@yes2truth if your faith is found in a book full of errors, mistakes, and contradictions, you've been dupped beyond reason,for a very long time
@@yes2truth the prophecy of isaiah had nothing to do with Jesus... it's about the country of israel...kudos for trying though... scriptures from a book loaded with errors, mistakes, and contradictions,are meaningless
@@yes2truth And yet, here you are. Using a piece of technology that is entirely dependant on the laws of physics and the mind of man for its creation. Your book of folklore and myth doesn't cover that too well, does it? But then again, this video isn't about that, is it?
It's about a flood that never happened.
@@yes2truth See, the problem is that I do know quite a bit. And oftimes, more about the dogma that you regale as fact when it certainly is not. In the end it's about the details, because they do indeed matter. For example, the first thing that disproves your literal interpretation of Genesis is the amount of energy in the system. I'll make it simple for you, Chucky:
Where did the heat go?
@@yes2truth And there we have it, ladies and gents. The deep and abiding ignorance that is the hallmark of the YECer. You know nothing of either the myth you try to defend much less the data that directly contradicts it. See Chuckles, you're here because of two SDAs named Whitcomb and Morris who wrote a little book called "The Genesis Flood" in which they try to bastardize science into supporting their claims about a Noachian Deluge. Same as you, they very studiously avoid talking about details like the amount of heat moving in the system from all the exothermic formations in the Earth's crust. As a member of the STEM community I have more than a passing familiarity with the processes and sciences involved. And to be perfectly honest, it's a simple question. Where did the heat go?
A localized event is not proof of a world wide event. Again another religious zealot lies.
Lose the minute long intro.
There was two flood's the flood of Noah was not the first
Snelling is so religious he has abandoned everything geology understands and adds his own bizarre interpretation. Very sad.
You have only to look who nowadays pays his paycheck to understand his motivation.
the ichthyosaur fetus was likely ejected thru postmortem gas buildup. Nevertheless the fact that it was "doing something" immediately prior to death indicates a global flood how, exactly?
The fact that it was 'snap frozen' in the act of giving birth shows very sudden burial. The fact that it was preserved in such detail shows that burial was sudden and deep, not allowing for decay.
@@PJRayment Guess I need to refer you back to my comment. No one can demonstrate one way or the other that it was in the midst of the "act". In any case every animal is doing something when it dies. Furthermore, things can be buried rapidly. Geologists are aware of it. They can identify landslide type events from the debris field in the rocks. All that is needed are weathering and gravity. But, that's giving a lot of latitude to the premise. I would wager that the ichthyosaur is buried in limestone, which isn't compatible with the flood scenario-the native particles are too fine. But there are big piles of calcareous goop at the ocean bottom today. Great environment for counteracting scavengers
@@patldennis
Nobody can prove conclusively what was happening, but people _can_ draw reasonable inferences, and palaeontologists often do.
Why is limestone not compatible with the flood scenario? That is, what is it about fine particles that make it a problem?
@@PJRayment we don't prove things in science. More accurately we falsify things.. in this case what didn't happen. Such phrasing reveals you don't understand the scientific method. Apologists cherry pick that which suits their narrative whereas actual scientists constantly try to dismantle the thing they actually think is at play. Indeed, paleontologists have incidentally falsified a YE narrative. Limestone whether chemical or biological or in between, is a by product or an indicator of the presence of particular conditions. It is not amenable to a one size fits all explanation like duh flood.
@@patldennis
"we don't prove things in science."
Yes, I agree.
"Such phrasing reveals you don't understand the scientific method."
Sorry, _what_ phrasing? I didn't say that science _can_ prove things.
"Apologists cherry pick that which suits their narrative whereas actual scientists constantly try to dismantle the thing they actually think is at play."
Pull the other one. Christian apologists have a commitment to truth (that comes from the Bible). Scientists don't try and dismantle evolution-it's a given, a framework in which they do their historical science. Yes, they'll argue about the details, but not the paradigm.
"Indeed, paleontologists have incidentally falsified a YE narrative. "
How have they supposedly done that? Without invoking naturalism (which they all invoke)?
"Limestone whether chemical or biological or in between, is a by product or an indicator of the presence of particular conditions."
Yeah, okay.
"It is not amenable to a one size fits all explanation like duh flood."
Why not? The flood would have created, and operated in, many different conditions.
According to faith and/or the belief in God, you're not suppose to compare geology against ageism of the earth or evolution. You can study and love both geology and Jesus, without conflict.
One is a lie. You worship God in truth!
Without Genesis Jesus is just a middle eastern dude
Lets just go with one fact: THERE IS NOT ENOUGH WATER ON THE EARTH TO CAUSE A WORLDWIDE COVERING FLOOD.
The Bible clearly states that the fountains of the great deep were broken up. It also makes clear that there was a canopy of water surrounding the earth that God caused to break up and rain down on the earth.
There could not be a world wide flood
The unwieldy witch roughly curl because afternoon dolly snow after a absurd shape. necessary, silly bridge
I'll watch this thru. Then I'll ask: "Where did the heat go?"
Hint: It's about the limestone, chalk, and salt (among other things)
Noah's Ark is utterly nonsense. It never happened and could never happen.
Bible... Waters Above the Expanse.
These same people will say the earth is 6000 years old :)
Just because there were floods, doesn't mean the bible is right. Noah's flood story is stolen from the Atrahasis or Gilgamesh story.
Floods occurred around 10,000 BC, due to the end of the Ice Age, not because of a convenant with God.
If such a convenant exists, then certainly it would be Atrahasis' convenant before Noah's.
@@yes2truth the same Moses that also recorded his death and burial?
@@yes2truth oh boy...you must have been brainwashed at an early age,huh?
@@yes2truth you mean the man who said he liked Jesus,but he didn't like Christians, because they are nothing like Jesus,and don't follow his teachings?
@@yes2truth you're gonna have to do better than that, little buddy
@@raymondgrimaldi9207 Bullseye on the quote about Xtians, and for the bonus point - MC's ironic use of Gandi. It's akin to that one from Romans that YECers spew right before they run away.
Atheists can't hate a scientist talking like this, I wonder why.
Because he's not a real scientist
And he's lying his ass off. We embrace reality. Even if it isn't what we think it is. And we're humble before it as we tease out its secrets. Only an idiot thinks that a Bronze Age herding culture had all the answers.
WE DONT LIKE THE GOD IDEA BECAUSE WE DOOOONT WANT TO LIVE BY ANY RULE... ITS SIMPLE AS THAT, WE PREFER THE SIMPLE IDEA THAT WE CAME FROM MONKEYS AND THAT SOME DAY EVRY ONE WOULD DIE FOR EVER AND EVER.... BUT LIVE BY THE RULE OF A CREATOR? .... NEVAAAAA !!!... RIGHT?
People just want to live satisfying d ck
The worldwide flood is an event that can never have happened in the way people usually think. Many flood legends also refer to a dry seabed. So the flood was a hughe tidal wave that must have moved over the earth. And it happened more often. To learn much more about recurring floods, the cycle of civilizations, ancient high tech and aliens, read the e-book: "what I know about Nibiru". You can read it nicely on any computer, tablet or smartphone. Just search for: know Nibiru
lol
I had a broad and thorough science education, and I always thought that millions or billions of years was an extremist view. Millions or billions of years represents the failure of mathematics at every level of education. People just don't realize how extreme that idea is.
Why? Articulate your point clearly. Why is it an "extremist point of view"?
@@NorthForkFisherman if people could conceive of millions, or billions of years, they would never be fooled by the charlatan extremist, Social Darwinists. Social Darwinism is a gentler term for "Nazis" and "Marxists", who are extremists. They all have the same agenda, applying "selection pressures " (killing) to "breed superior humans ", to quote Karl Marx. These extremist ideologies have not gone away. They literally just changed the names to Neo-Nazis, Neo-Liberals, and Woke. Beware of extremists, fanatics, and elitists. They are ravening wolves in sheep's clothing.
@@valerieprice1745 Darwin was a botanist and biologist; he had nothing to do with social issues. The earth as proven to be 4.567 billion years old.
@@maylingng4107 wrong. Darwin was a GEOLOGIST. His books, Origin of Species and Descent of Man were not scientific. They were popular books, meaning basically pseudoscience. They were never subjected to scientific rigor, and they were packed with racist, antifeminist, antisemitic language. It's a wonder they're still in print! Charles Lyell was a well connected lawyer, NOT a geologist, and he was the one who came up with "millions of years ". He was also an antisemite, whose stated goal was to "get Moses (Jews and also the Bible) out of science. " Charles Darwin, Charles Lyell, and Karl Marx laid the foundation for the Holocaust. Marx had some Jewish ancestry, but his writing against Jews was horrible. If you ever actually read anything they wrote, you would know this, but you might be influenced to become a radical antisemite chauvinist.
@@NorthForkFisherman because the numbers are so big, they're actually theoretical. In other words, you can't actually conceive of numbers so large with a human brain. Such numbers are meaningless to humans. And there's nothing scientific about Lyell's ideas. It was all conjecture and speculation. Anyway, Lyell has been debunked, because his "evidence " for millions of years turned out to be deposits from a fairly recent volcanic eruption. And yet, Uniformitarians still rule science with an iron fist, destroying geology.
What about the floods that happened hundreds of millions ago?
That’s just it, it didn’t, it’s a young earth.
1. The most common date given for the flood is 4400 years ago, right in the middle of the Egyptians first burst of city and temple building, why did they not notice they were under water?
2. To flood the planet to over top the highest mountain you would need about 3 to 4 times the known amount of water in the world, where did all that water come from?
3. After the flood, where did the water go?
4. How did 8 people build a wooden ship bigger than any wooden ship built in modern times when THAT ship was reinforced with steel bracing and still broke up and sank.
5. How did animals with odd diets get to the ark?
6. How did 8 people deal with the needs of 10000 animals on the ark? Each animal had to be fed, watered, exercised and the poop scooped. Working 12 hours a day they would need to deal with over 100 animals per hour.
7. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood.
8. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood.
9. Well according to the Book of Jasher, the wives ARE sisters. Jasher 5: 32-35 "And thou shalt choose for thy sons three maidens, from the daughters of men, and they shall be wives to thy sons. And Noah rose up, and he made the ark, in the place where God had commanded him, and Noah did as God had ordered him. In his five hundred and ninety-fifth year Noah commenced to make the ark, and he made the ark in five years, as the Lord had commanded. Then Noah took the three daughters of Eliakim, son of Methuselah, for wives for his sons, as the Lord had commanded Noah." If a species undergoes a population bottleneck, the lack of genetic diversity can be seen in the members of that species. NO such bottle neck exists in the overwhelming majority of species.
10. 4400 years is not a long enough time to generate the diversity in the human population to give rise to the different populations of people we see on the planet especially when you consider that effectively the genetic diversity was limited to 4 people, Noah and his wife and Eliakim and his wife.
11. Ken Ham's phony Ark has a million Dollar + heating, ventilation and air conditioning system that ensures that workers and visitors do not suffocate in the building. According to the bible, the original Ark had one window, 18 in square. Sorry people but if Ham's estimate of 1600 species represented by a minimum of 4000 animals, they would have suffocated.
12. There is NO trace of any global flood in the geology of the world. Lots of local and regional floods, yes, but NO global flood.
13. Oh and by the way, for those fools at CMI who think Noah's Flood was a real event, a Tomb has been discovered in Egypt dated to 4400 years ago, about the time of the mythical flood (according to many biblical creationists). This raises several questions.
a. If the Tomb was built before the flood, how did it escape being flooded?
b. If the Tomb was built after the flood, the Earth's population would have been devistated so who built the tomb?
c. Why is this Tomb perfectly in line with Egyptian culture before and after the fairy tale flood? If everybody in Egypt were killed in the flood, the Egyptian culture from before the flood would have been lost.
Untouched 4,400-year-old tomb discovered at Saqqara, Egypt National Geographic, PUBLISHED DECEMBER 17, 2018
Sorry I don't have all the answers, but as far as question 2 goes I am willing to bet you believe science as long as it does not involve a higher power or authority. So, when tectonic plates collide mountains are thrust upward. The mountains were not as high during the flood. Yes, I do believe in scientific observation, but science cannot prove all the answers either, can they? Science is the study of how God did what He did...
@@rickb2267 There was no global flood. It is a fairy tale, nothing more.
book of jasher ??? Most Christians don't even read that as scripture.
there's mountains of evidence for the global flood you're just looking at it with an atheistic lense.
they've got the dating wrong just like the bones of the heathen army found in england in the 1980's they were off by 200 years because they vikings only ate fish and fish have less carbon 14. so if the whole world was covered in the waters with less carbon 14 the dates are wrong.
1. The most common date given for the flood is 4400 years ago, right in the middle of the Egyptians first burst of city and temple building, why did they not notice they were under water?
2. To flood the planet to over top the highest mountain you would need about 3 to 4 times the known amount of water in the world, where did all that water come from?
3. After the flood, where did the water go?
4. How did 8 people build a wooden ship bigger than any wooden ship built in modern times when THAT ship was reinforced with steel bracing and still broke up and sank.
5. How did animals with odd diets get to the ark?
6. How did 8 people deal with the needs of 10000 animals on the ark? Each animal had to be fed, watered, exercised and the poop scooped. Working 12 hours a day they would need to deal with over 100 animals per hour.
7. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood.
8. If there were 10000 animals on the ark representing about 4000 species, and there is now about 8.7 million species on Earth, each species surviving the flood would have to generate 217 new species in the 4400 years since the flood.
9. Well according to the Book of Jasher, the wives ARE sisters. Jasher 5: 32-35 "And thou shalt choose for thy sons three maidens, from the daughters of men, and they shall be wives to thy sons. And Noah rose up, and he made the ark, in the place where God had commanded him, and Noah did as God had ordered him. In his five hundred and ninety-fifth year Noah commenced to make the ark, and he made the ark in five years, as the Lord had commanded. Then Noah took the three daughters of Eliakim, son of Methuselah, for wives for his sons, as the Lord had commanded Noah." If a species undergoes a population bottleneck, the lack of genetic diversity can be seen in the members of that species. NO such bottle neck exists in the overwhelming majority of species.
10. 4400 years is not a long enough time to generate the diversity in the human population to give rise to the different populations of people we see on the planet especially when you consider that effectively the genetic diversity was limited to 4 people, Noah and his wife and Eliakim and his wife.
11. Ken Ham's phony Ark has a million Dollar + heating, ventilation and air conditioning system that ensures that workers and visitors do not suffocate in the building. According to the bible, the original Ark had one window, 18 in square. Sorry people but if Ham's estimate of 1600 species represented by a minimum of 4000 animals, they would have suffocated.
12. There is NO trace of any global flood in the geology of the world. Lots of local and regional floods, yes, but NO global flood.
13. Oh and by the way, for those fools at CMI who think Noah's Flood was a real event, a Tomb has been discovered in Egypt dated to 4400 years ago, about the time of the mythical flood (according to many biblical creationists). This raises several questions.
a. If the Tomb was built before the flood, how did it escape being flooded?
b. If the Tomb was built after the flood, the Earth's population would have been devistated so who built the tomb?
c. Why is this Tomb perfectly in line with Egyptian culture before and after the fairy tale flood? If everybody in Egypt were killed in the flood, the Egyptian culture from before the flood would have been lost.
Untouched 4,400-year-old tomb discovered at Saqqara, Egypt National Geographic, PUBLISHED DECEMBER 17, 2018
Unhelpful post walker...all these have been addressed, Study up... come back
@@paulwood6636 No liar, these have NOT been answered. Oh, I have gotten replies and denial that these are relevent, I have recieved fairy tales and outright lies, but nothing that is worth more than a dog turd on the sidewalk, which, come to think of it, is all the Noah's Ark story and the whole bible is worth.
Have a nice day.
The manmade created calendar is off by years so we have estimated time by studying not only the Bible but what was found in the history of archaeology and the study of the land from what I understood. We use carbon dating which is estimated to be factual but is it since those carbon dating funds are said to go back millions of years? We don't know all the unimaginable facts of nature of our own Earth nor are we supposed to know all the facts of Creation but are to trust that our Creator whom most call God, is fact that we may have eternal life through Christ Jesus.
@@yvetteschneider5172 The manmade created calendar is off by years so we have estimated time by studying not only the Bible but what was found in the history of archaeology and the study of the land from what I understood.
We use carbon dating which is estimated to be factual but is it since those carbon dating funds are said to go back millions of years?
We don't know all the unimaginable facts of nature of our own Earth nor are we supposed to know all the facts of Creation but are to trust that our Creator whom most call God, is fact that we may have eternal life through Christ Jesus.
All of these have been addressed, many in the bible if youd simply read it.
As far as Egypt, its clear the people who build the megalithic structures are NOT the people who made the hieroglyphs