Graeme Reveals All On POGBA 'Beef'! 👀🔥 | Man Utd Special | Simon & Souness | Episode Six
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- Join Simon Jordan & Graeme Souness each week in 'Simon & Souness'! This week, it's a Man Utd special! Graeme shares why he loves to talk about Pogba, the pair give their honest take on the current squad, and we hear what Jose Mourinho's biggest regret from Old Trafford was!
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My wife just said that Simon looks like the farmer from Shaun The Sheep and now I can’t unsee it…
Elite comment 😂
🤣🤣
Brilliant 🤣🤣
😂😂😂
Simon Jordan: "Manchester United get far more recognition and media attention than they deserve".. 2 weeks later releases a "Man Utd Special" with Liverpool legend Graeme Souness 😂😂 couldn't make it up
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bang on
Trebles his views pair of sour sausages 😂
Bang on
Souness isn't bias at all 🤣🤣Incredible, Man U special and they hardly know the player names. This is poor.
Looking forward to his Crystal Palace Special lol
Simon is slowly, but surely morphing into Carl from ‘Up’.
Brilliant 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
The more I listen to Souness amid belatedly getting to know the stature of player he was, his ideas about pros and disillusionment with pogba makes a lot of sense.
He was the Roy Keane of his era......or, Roy Keane was the Graeme Souness of his era. Either way, it's a huge compliment.
Exactly, him and Roy are cut from the same cloth!
@michaelrnning162 Roys aggressive nature is always exaggerated a lot and his technical ability is almost never mentioned
Souness conversations is what society needs these days. We need more of this Simon.
But less of Simon interrupting.
As a United fan I have to agree with Souness on Pogba. Attitude all wrong but he wasn’t the only one.
Were you one of the united fans who got offended when EVERYONE outside Man U said he was a joke and a fraud and then only when he left started slagging him off? There was a lot of those
🤫
Absolute rubbish. The man was out best mid being misused and destroyed like all of our best players
When did United build a midfield good enough to win anything? 2019 first game of the season we started a midfield of Pogba,Mctominay and Perreira that was 3 years after he signed but let's blame him
@@thedreamer3454he’s doing so well at juve now isn’t he. My word, what an overhyped footballer. Having said all that, Hopefully; he can turn around his current misfortunes.
Simon Jordan still complaining about the amount of coverage United gets?
He will go on TV and complain about United once a week. Then, complain about the coverage United gets. 😂
I think people need to realise how bang average they are these days. Theyre literally what Liverpool were doing 8 years ago and banging on about their history. Last on match of the day theyre absolutely abysmal
@@erniececil6668 It's the press who bang on about Utd. The fans like me know the score of where we are at. Utd though are box office as an organisation whether you like it or not. Always will be
@@sitaylor Because of their history, just like Liverpool and every other big club. In a footballing sense they're absolutely average and utd fans can't get past that. Quite literally, average. Never hit the heights they did.
@@user-qx9fy8gu1w Box office as an organisation simply because of their history, like Liverpool, if Madrid fell off they'd still be box office, but they won't have still fell off. Utd fans problem is they still think they're box office on the pitch and they will never ever hit those heights again, ever. Quick, blame the Glazers GTFOOH. Talk absolute nonsense
Man United special with a former Crystal Palace owner and former Rangers and Liverpool legend. Well done talksport, outdone yourselves
A whole 25 min interview about Manchester United as a Liverpool Legend. Brilliant 😂😂😂💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾. WE ARE MASSIVE
massive joke?
It's true you have to admit imagine if we were winning again
*were
Bet you aren’t EVEN BORN in Manchester nor seen a game pal.
It's his job, you would do it for a hour if u get his pay. I'm sure u do it for free all the times
I’m a united fan and souness is bang on about Pogba, flattered to deceive and poor attitude, should have been a world class player.
I agree, other than the world class bit. Neither could or should have been world class as I just don't think he had the talent in the first place
Overhyped every step of the way
As a Liverpool fan mate Pogba had bags of talent I think Fernandes is similar he is an awesome player but for some reason he does not show it most of the time he has downed tools a few time for you lads.
I have no idea why they brought him back after walking out on Fergie. One chance to play for United. One.
When will united fans not notice - with such a pattern of players underperforming AT united that means united must be the issue… was di Maria not world class? Even Bruno has fallen off
@@kpin80 just because our opinions differ? Very mature. I watched him in the youth set up with Lingard, Morrison etc. and then at Juve.
He was never destined to be the player everyone hyped him up to be. That's not to say he wasn't talented. But the idea that had he put his head down and acted a little less insufferable that he would have become a powerhouse/world beater? Nope, but you're allowed to have a different opinion
Simon is looking more and more like Karl from 'UP' as each week passes 🎈👓
I totally agree with Souness, Pogba had surrounded himself of fandoms and family, telling him hes a superstar and his hunger and desire to improve died and has done nothing in Junventus or Man Utd since.
Yeah = great call
Except 1 brother - he read the memo wrong 😂
I remember cringing at people getting excited about his stupid and ugly hair cuts. His face is hardly an oil painting. It was bad enough seeing that with Beckham, and he performed week in and week out.
Pogba saying he’s never heard of Souness takes the biscuit 🤣🤣🤣
That just shows a lack of knowledge.
Nothing to celebrate.
@@pjoseph5950nobody outside of England knows about Graeme Souness😂😂
@@avimufcns He's one of the most successful and well known men in world football history. If you don't know who he is or what he's achieved then you know NOTHING about football. Lol
@@avimufcnsthat’s a stupid moment.
@@avimufcnsyou must have a very low level of football knowledge. You laugh at yourself unfortunately. Silly silly.
Talksport is hilarious. Simon complains about the media being addicted to man united yet he does a 25 min show on it with a ex Liverpool player. Honestly
Simon Jordan said a few weeks ago that Man Utd get more media attention than what their performances deserve...fast forward a week or so later they are doing a whole special on Man Utd!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣
I swear half of these pundits would be out of a job without Manchester United
You mean "without man united being so poor"
Their job is to talk about football. Manchester United are arguably among the biggest 3 clubs in world football. Of course they’re going to discuss them.
And Manchester United would now be completely irrelevant to world football without all these pundits talking about them as though they're still a big club.
It’s like boxing without AJ lol
@@johnneil14
😂😂 💯
People forget that in Juventus he had players to run for him when he didn't go back after failed attack. Vidal, Marchisio were players who will run for days without a sweat, Pirlo orchestrated whole midfield, he was playing with crazy talented world class players around him. What they expect from him playing with Fellaini and A.Herrera ? You didn't know who was slower among those three. And the defensive players that they had back then that trio of Chiellini, Bonucci and Barzagli🤣Man. Utd never found a good enough replacement for Vidic and Rio since they retired, i mean, what are you supposed to do at that point ? Of course i will retire after that WC
Love the frank forthright discourse. Keep it coming .
Ronaldo said that the younger players weren't interested in learning, including Rashford.
Not a big fan of souness but hes bang on about utds problems and mistakes over the years. It has to be said he has a great football brain. Only real thing ive a problem with souness is that hes a Liverpool fan and legend😂😂😂
They should do an interview with Souness and Pogba
Pogba hasn’t got the mentality to do that. Not a chance….
@@kennetking1too many drugs
Would be box office 😂😂😂
I don't think Ronaldo expected to play every minute of every game. But bringing him on in the 88th minute was an insult. I agree with Souness that it was a lost opportunity to have a great senior pro around - instead ten Hag basically forced him out while trying to show who was boss.
It was never going to work, there is no way the crumbling club was going to have Ronaldo sitting on what 25 mil a year & sitting on the bench "some games".. Ronaldo wasn't going to sit on the bench either (and he's Ronaldo, he wants and should be paying every game)
@@thedorianjones I still think ten Hag could have managed it better. For example - take Ronaldo off after 65 minutes if he starts. Or bring him on for the last 35 minutes from the bench.
He could have sat out the occasional cup tie against lower league opposition and he could have still have played 90 minutes in other matches - mix it up and give him enough game-time to keep him happy - manage the situation.
Instead, leaving him to sit on the bench - and then asking him to come on for the last 3 or 4 minutes felt like the manager pushing the player out.
@@anthonymclennan3208 Ronaldo being unwilling to do any defensive work is an insult.
@@anthonymclennan3208what do people not understand that season he wasn’t putting the ball in the back of the net, he was missing chances, howlers by his standards, looking off the pace, a shadow of the player even the season before where he was brilliant it was time for him to go anyway and ten hag was correct in what he did, however it was sour the way it ended but is what it is
If Ronaldo is such a great pro to have around, why didn’t other PL clubs not sign him on a free transfer after the WC. Is the ego and petulance when he didn’t get his way, as well as declining powers not a bigger factor ?
being a man utd. fan , ive a new found respect fo souness hes right
World Cup Finals is 6/7 games. A season can be 60+. That was always the issue, he could be incredible for a few games then get bored and go missing for the next 5. When he was on form he was close to untouchable - He just wasnt consistent enough and consistency seperates the good from the great. Never got the feeling that losing a game bothered him.
I never knew Ronaldo played for Inter, Simon Jordan really knows his stuff
Great talks these two have - proper straight , old school , telling it as it is
Souness looks great for 70
American Checking In Absolutely Love This Content Simon Is Great And I Did My Research On Souness I Was Surprised He Was Great
Souness, I salute you.
Can’t wait for the next one.
Can’t argue with the thoughts of both. As a Man U fan, I enjoyed their opinions. One day things will change, however I fear it still won’t be for some time.
Loving the Frank Carson fancy dress
just watched some of souness' highlights from his playing days, how the hell at 25 did he look at least 20 years older then he does now
😂😂true
Moustache
Use your brain and work it out
Yeah great player wasn't he. Keep talking about his looks and ignore the incredibly talented footballer he was.
The way I always saw it was Souness made a few (rightful) comments towards Pogba and millennials who never watched Graeme play just associated him with Pogba any time he'd give a take, whether it was good or not. Was actually a very good and insightful pundit
Souness is a biased pundit, everything Liverpool does is great, everything United will ever do is wrong. And he makes his money out of the Utd comments. If Fergie had the power to keep Pogba if he so chose, then Liverpool as treble winners in 1984 must have been happy to get rid of you Graeme. Who in their right mind would leave European, League and league cup winners unless the club wanted you gone.
He still is a very good and insightful pundit.
@@flemfleming3149 Oh well, United have Neville, Keane, Ferdinand, Scholes, Hargeaves, Schmeichel and a load of other completely biased knobheads to blow United's has-been trumpet. Of course ex-Liverpool players are going to be favourable towards their old club. What planet are you from?
@@flemfleming3149 All pundits are biased. All opinions are biased. They are literally paid to give their biased opinions on football. What a weird and pathetic thing to be CRYING about. They're not referees or commentators. They are pundits. Lol
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot Martin O Neill is not biased. Souness is just the other extreme.
Simon & Graeme = Top LADS Proper Clobbers 💯 Facts
Wasn't Souness right all along about Pogba, where is Pogba now again??
hey Simon....Ronaldo didnt play for Inter Milan.....that poor from somebody who thinks he knows the lot
The Ronaldo did
He was on about Cristiano
@@lesbaxter7652 oh cr7 not Ronaldo then , don’t ever refer to cr7 as Ronaldo there is only one Ronaldo
@@lesbaxter7652 Simon's football knowledge is poor. A few months back he kept referring to the Barca manager Xavi as "Alonso". He doesn't even know the difference between Xabi Alonso and Xavi! He did this a few times but someone must have corrected him in the end as he's stopped saying it now.
Gossip Girls sessions 😂😂😂. Love it
Nothing more annoying that someone saying something factually wrong. Pogba started all the games in the world cup bar the 3rd group stage game. He only didnt start that game cos France already won their group. Souness just needs to admit he didnt like the person Pogba was for whatever reason.
The vast majority of Utd fans agree with him 100% about Pogba. And he was actually very complimentary about him and offered him very useful advice, but that doesn't fit your agenda, does it...?
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotjust speak for yourself not the vast majority of man united fans.
@@mustaphamboob3859 I didn't speak for any man. Just mind your own business and stop telling me what to think and say in public, perhaps?
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot “vast majority”😂😂😂
@@mustaphamboob3859 This page is half-full of people saying "I'm a Man Utd fan and I agree with Souness about Pogba". Maybe you should open your eyes before attacking people for pointing out facts.
Love listening to these 2, I’m 20 years old and people think young people don’t listen to them 👍🏻👀
Some young people actually do have minds so it's not surprising.
Good podcast this one
I’m one of the rare United fans who like Souness and recognised his views on Pogba were right and not some crusade against a United player. I think it’s fair to say, he’s been proven right.
Is Simon Jordan trying to look like a Wallace and Gromit character?
Great show
Great SHOW
❤❤❤❤great one
Imagine Calling a world cup win as worst thing to happen. These brit pundits only care about grit, passion and kicking players.
Maybe if you were British, you would understand the very simple and logical point being made here. Please name some excellent pundits and players from your own country for me to laugh at >>>
Hilarious
These plastic fans. Support a club in your own country!!! "Imagine" supporting a foreign club and then attacking pundits from that country for speaking about their own football culture. Maybe develop some self-awareness at some point.
Genuinely never heard anyone mention that suit analogy except for Simon…. Every. Single. Day
I luv listening to sports by souness
Good show. 👍
It's hilarious how Sourness said united should have kept Ronaldo because he was a "top professional". He refused to come on as a substitute and stormed off down the tunnel. He was on £600k-£700k a week. What's professional about that? Can't argue with his achievements and how he's looked after himself but you're well paid to do something, do it.
❤❤❤❤ love the show
You both funny without even trying
Imagine the debate about Souness and Simon lol
great chat. how about S & S
2 legends
Talking about this conversation again that definitely happened between Ronaldo and Ten Hag
Man Utd special 🔥🔥🔥
the problem between ronaldo and man utd is that marcus rashford can call in sick due to hungover but the club didnt protect ronaldo when his newborn was in critical condition during preseason
Don't forget aldo was one of liverpools best stikers deserves a mention.
Fernando Torres. Maybe he wasn't there long enough to be a legend, but some of the goals he scored.......just wow.
I am a United fan of 50 years, and I made Graeme correct on the issues discussed here.
Que?
That mentality Souness is talking about regarding Pogba is the whole French squad’s problem. If they weren’t so lackadaisical they would of won 2 World Cups back to back with the 3rd one in the post lol. They are not hungry to be ELITE. They don’t have the drive because they feel they’re better than everyone else already and it cost them in Qatar.
They weren’t even focused and managed to reach the final. Imagine if they were focused 😂and kept that same hunger as if they were underdogs.
Simon's glasses remind me of the Knight Riders car Kitt😅😅
“I played the game”
A full segment dedicated just about united. Hated.Adored.Never ignored
Mostly hated.
Totally agree with Souness on both points. Pogba an incredible gifted player, but didn't have the right mindset to become an all time great and so wasted his talent. Ronaldo did have that right mindset, and they should have kept him and learnt from him. A born winner, that's the mentality that sadly this United team do not have.
Yeah should have kept him after he went public with piers Morgan in an interview. It’s not football manager half the fan base turned on him and are still bitter now he had to go. Then you say about his mindset he was being late refused to come on left games early and went home some level of respect that to the rest of the squad. I don’t care how many trophies you’ve won that’s the example your setting to other players
WE WERE MASSIVE.........!!!
Money makes them not give a flying fk about the game simple as that the hunger dissolves after a couple of big paying seasons
Does Simon have LED lights on his frames?
That's a nice choice of words😂
Hindsight is a wonderful thing…..
He only won the world cup because the rest of the French team were excellent and N'glo Kante covered his lack of work. As we all knew Kante was worth two players.
So with that being said. United didn’t have a great team around him to flourish?
One player can’t carry a TEAM! Hypocrites.
@@Permethrin08 One player can't carry a team? Well done for telling the world that you weren't alive when Maradona played
Maradona couldn’t play in this era. So there’s that.
@@jhpfdijtuiweruotthanks for proving my point.
@@Permethrin08 Wildly illogical. Try much harder >>>
When i see people say Bruno irritates them it makes me laugh, he does exactly what other players do
There isn't one player on my team who acts like Bruno (thankfully)
Nice Ronny kray glasses simon
Souness And Simon
I’m downvoting the lighting, it makes Souness look 43
How bitter are you
Imagine being the supporter of another club and having to talk about United all the time even though we haven't won an argument in about ten years. It makes me smile 😂 Whats that Oscar Wilde quote "There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about and that is not being talked about". 😉
This guy is deluded - he doesnt understand that Ronaldo thinks he is still in his prime and WILL NOT play as back up or reduced minutes for ANYONE. He has not watched the world cup?! He has not watched his career? He is not watching him in the desert? He thinks that him scoring goals there is similar to Halland and others in top tier competitive football. The delusion is palpable.
Ask Benzema, Firmino and Henderson how many goal they have scored in the “desert” and if you name any other player that has scored as many goals as Ronaldo has in the past year, I call him delusional as well
@@Ozzy7 your comparison is well placed. He should be comparing himself those in the dessert, not those in Europe. Even a 12 year old knows that. The others you mentioned have been poor. One thing Ronaldo can do if he has time and don't have to exert himself physically, is put the ball at the back of the net. No one would ever doubt that who has played football. That is the last ability to leave a footballer. However, you would be deluded to agree that he should have been kept by Man United to be on the bench and that he should be comparing his goals with the likes of Halaand and others in Europe.
@@criticalthinking8982 I get that the Saudi league isn’t the same as the Premier league, however if scoring goals was that easy I do believe that even in the “desert league” or Europe players would be scoring for fun. When Ronaldo left Man United others said Rashford would get off his shadow, how many goals has he scored up until now at Man U? I’m not saying They needed Ronaldo, but you can’t deny his capabilities of scoring goals, we don’t know for sure if it would have work out between him and ETH, but ETH gave up on him way too soon, maybe he never wanted him. Can’t blame Ronaldo for wanting to play, any player would feel the same.
@@Ozzy7 it's not just that the Saudi League are not on the same level as the premier league, they are way below it. You do know that that championship in the UK is ranked higher? A player or a team is as good as its opponents.
That said, given Ronaldo's ability to score goals, he would always score in a poor league, provided he has players around him who can supply him - and that's exactly what he has found in his particular team. Ronaldo and his fans are delusional to think he could still play at the top level. Only him and them believe it despite irrefutable evidence. No one came for him, he was dropped at the world cup, etc.
My point is Souness is delusional to think he would have stayed at Man United as a back up striker. His ego wouldn't have allowed that and he would have continued to be disruptive. Although he plays in a poor league. His defense mechanism allows him to exaggerate the status of the league to fuel his ego. Fans seems to be part of this, unfortunately.
Thank you sir 👏👏
sounes named salahs clubs correctly, hoilands goals, eriksens interview and simon just said ronaldo played for inter milan. one is a student of the game and the other is just making a living from it.
After the Katt Williams interview it would seem that everyone is revealing ALL lol.
that Pogba United team with him, Bruno, Ronaldo, Martial, Slab ed etc was toxic and it still lingers in that dressing today, Bruno has never been a captain in his life, talented no doubt but not good enough to justify his attitude.
At France, Pogba had Matuidi & Kante. At Juventus he had Pirlo, Marchisio, Vidal(in his prime, not the old Barca one).
At United he had... Mctominay & Fred 😂
As a United fan, I respect Souness a great deal, great player-tough as nails and says it as he sees it. He is well within his rights to not like us and be biased. You have to go past that.
The guy is a biased clown and it seaps though every time he speaks
@@hestereeen164 Oh dear, someone's upset. Dry your eyes, princess.
@@hestereeen164 All opinions are biased. He was the captain of LFC and arguably the most successful British captain in world football history. Why on earth would you expect him not to have a bias against Man Utd or for LFC? Lol. What an embarrassing thing to be CRYING about in public
@@jhpfdijtuiweruot you can have a thoughtful well measured answer when asked about a rival team. He goes out of his way to big up Liverpool and shite on united. It's just pathetic from a professional pundit and comes across really childish
@@FreshAlchemyNice one
The farmer from shaun the sheep"ehhh uh eh"
Damnn This Simon guy thinks Ronaldo played at Inter Milan
Did they never see the French media (which it was obvious that Pogba was listening to)
There are two different Pogba's, one of the best footballers in the World when representing France and average Pogba when representing United. Whenever Pogba performed poorly the French media blamed United, therefore Pogba did not see his poor performances at United as being a Pogba problem.
Initially even when Juve resigned Pogba they saw his previous club form as being a Manchester United problem and assumed they under Juve that he would return to his best.
Ronaldo in his first season wanted it. In his second season he was told about the Saudi league and started dreaming of reaching 1000 goals. Hence the scorched earth tactic to leave the club. Funnily enough helped United seemingly it put the fire on the Glazer's more.
“Our Football” 90% foreign players cheers for the insight Graham
Souness is spot on... he was a great player.... Pogba tells himself he is a great player... however Pogba cannot do the basics well
.. Run .... find space ... tackle.... all the things required when your teams not playing well and need to stay in the game... lucky for him he had the outstanding Kante to do this for him in the French National team... Pogba loses the ball cheaply in the wrong areas and puts his backs under immediate preasure...
He saps energy and enthusiasm from all his fellow team mates.
The worst thing is we could all see this before he signed... as with Sancho Martial plus 60 million on a chelsea flop who at the time couldnt even get on the first 11...and the other prima Donna's.... so why did we sign them.
Give our youngsters a chance instead of wasting all that money...
We could have at least tried Ronaldo mixed with the younger generation to see if we could move forward.
What Utd have now is woefully inadequate and theyre not a team.
Sourness commenting on Man Utd is as accurate as me commenting me on the hadron collider.
Souness is bang on in most Man United supporters eyes! How long have you been watching football? Myself I've been watching Div 1 and the Premier League since 1976 when i was 9 yrs old. Souness is a well respected pundit on any team, a brilliant former hard nut player that denied United alot in the 80's.
Man United at their peak signed just above average players among superstars and those average players stepped up to another level. That was because of club culture and leadership. Don't tell me Teddy Sheringham, Roniie Johnson, Dwight Yorke , Oliie GS and so many others were world class, but they delivered and became great.
Pogba had his best statistical season straight after winning the World Cup so the usual top quality analysis from Souness 🙄
Is that the old fella off UP 😂
Pogbas career changed for the worse after that Mourinho spat during a game vs Spurs when Pogba tried to tell Mourinho why he shouldnt do what he was asking. He was subbed off in that game and benched in the next match in a crucial UCL game. He went on to win the World Cup that summer where Mourinho made some unnecassry comments to down play his performances. He since never recovered and Souness is right, winning the World Cup made Pogba not take on any feedback.
The media love Man United …❤
If you had a podcast of Souness critical of anything liverpool it wouldnt be a minute 😄😄😄
Graeme Souness is right about Pogba, pogfart is an absolute waster
Every show is a United special.
If someone doesn’t disagree with Simon Jordan’s points, he argues against himself so that he’s opposite of views to the other person at times 😂
100% correct on pogba. 100% incorrect on Ronaldo.
A great senior pro doesn’t have to be a starter or even a star look at city they don’t keep Carson for his keeping skills I guarantee he helps with training he makes the keepers who are better than him be even more cause at least he made England goalkeeper he isn’t talking from no where and he probs motivates them from his times where he almost made trophies etc and they listen Cause he been around it and that motivates people to go further
Funny I remember Simon saying last week that united get talked about too much 😂