Bethesda - A Journey to Redundancy

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  • čas přidán 25. 01. 2024
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    Bethesda Game Studios used to be the undisputed kings of the Open World RPG genre. But with the successes of their competitors like Nintendo and CD Projekt Red in replicating their games' formula, Bethesda have found themselves facing redundancy in the eyes of the gaming community. This video explores Bethesda's history through this lens, how they got to become the kings of RPGs, and how they may try and bring themselves back on top.
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Komentáře • 46

  • @Ardrid_
    @Ardrid_  Před 6 měsíci +26

    I would say I was first, but I know thats not true.

    • @EternalArctic
      @EternalArctic Před 6 měsíci +2

      That’s cuz it’s me B)

    • @djw_tekken8490
      @djw_tekken8490 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@EternalArctic this guys channel is a troll tho no vid is actually legit even if he states somw facts😂 hes not a gamer at all and milks with some numbers on sales

    • @djw_tekken8490
      @djw_tekken8490 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@EternalArctic but nice then im C i guess?

  • @angusalvarado3064
    @angusalvarado3064 Před 6 měsíci +24

    As someone who has never played a Bethesda game before and is watching multiple videos about them, it interesting seeing a company that was once innovative be behind everyone else. Like before Starfield all I knew was they were responsible for Skyrim and the Fallout series and that two those were considered to be some of the most influential games ever made. Now it's just people going over their many mistakes as a company, with the first one I heard about before Starfield being the fiasco that was Fallout 76.

    • @Ardrid_
      @Ardrid_  Před 6 měsíci +9

      Not a coincidence that their downfall happened right as other companies started to do what they did either just as well or better. Bethesda always had issues, but people were generally willing to overlook them because of the fact they filled a niche few others did at the time.

    • @walk-monkey
      @walk-monkey Před 5 měsíci

      @@Ardrid_ the only other game that fills their niche is cyberpunk? it does it amazingly but it's the only game which has matched their signature.

  • @burritoman2k
    @burritoman2k Před 6 měsíci +5

    0:41 been playing a lot of Arena lately and I dunno how people get these world size measurements considering that it's impossible to travel between 2 towns on foot (every town is its own infinite world seperate from everything else). Daggerfall was the first in the series to have a finite, massive interconnected world

  • @mirrormagic7674
    @mirrormagic7674 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This video finally taught me what the first two Elder Scrolls games were.

  • @ShyCorn
    @ShyCorn Před 5 měsíci +1

    Well said! Great video!

  • @Wikwil
    @Wikwil Před 6 měsíci

    Very cool video, as always! ;)

  • @freddytackos
    @freddytackos Před 5 měsíci

    excellent vid you got 10:38 there

  • @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034
    @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034 Před 6 měsíci +10

    Glad I never became a Bethesda fan even if as a kid I wanted to try Oblivion so much (never did and haven't). Now only good thing I associate with them is Hi-Fi RUSH, developed by Tango Gameworks and published by 16 times the detail.

    • @Ardrid_
      @Ardrid_  Před 6 měsíci +6

      People often forget Bethesda are a publisher as well as a developer.

    • @Drejzer
      @Drejzer Před 6 měsíci +1

      They also published Dishonored iirc

    • @hgmd3284
      @hgmd3284 Před 6 měsíci +1

      what about fallout new vegas? that wasnt even made by bethesda, it was made by obsidian.

    • @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034
      @samuelantoniocastillomeza5034 Před 6 měsíci

      @@hgmd3284 Between your answer of New Vegas and the other person example of Dishonored, seems Bethesda is better at publishing games than making.

    • @hgmd3284
      @hgmd3284 Před 6 měsíci

      @@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034 yeah, it seems that way.

  • @darken2417
    @darken2417 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Original devs of Elder Scrolls are making a new game. The Wayward Realms, I hope it turns out good.

  • @dabritian
    @dabritian Před 5 měsíci

    In 2011 Skyrim launched with a Minecraft reference in the form of the notched pickaxe. Minecraft, the emperor of the gaming world built on the basis of procedurally generated content. Yet even by the year 2023, Bethesda in the form of starfield failed to grasp what made procedurally generated content in Minecraft good. They have forgotten what even made procedurally generated content in 1996 Daggerfall good. Yes, the hand crafted content in morrowind is good, but if Bethesda must dabble with this technology creating a forever sized freedom to walk around & do things, why do they not learn the most rudimentary thing about how the world gen in Minecraft enables mining & crafting, how do they fail to learn that while daggerfall while limited in templates, that the big world did at least give you significant content to with satisfaction role play as a character to the best tech & development time offered them.
    But in starfield it offers little, they spent incredible effort & resources to add in a novelty with nothing novel. I can appreciate the noble attempt to pioneer a feature that ultimately ended up as a dead end failure or coming up short in execution. But Bethesda is learning so slowly from their own failures & the successes of others that they are turning themselves into a gaming “sick man” of the industry by nothing more than ignorant pride.

  • @kmartrewards1429
    @kmartrewards1429 Před 6 měsíci +2

    plug the subscriber percentages, it's crazy how many of these videos have popped off and you still only have 15k 😡

  • @chandlerxcx
    @chandlerxcx Před 5 měsíci

    Beautiful, I've honestly never played a Bethesda game but its really weird seeing where they are now because growing up they were seen as gods...

  • @unoriginalperson72
    @unoriginalperson72 Před 6 měsíci +1

    I'm hoping they turn around the way they design and write their flagship franchises before its too late, i wouldn't call myself a fan but I dont wanna see 2 franchises with great potential go down with the ship.

    • @backupschmliff1156
      @backupschmliff1156 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Fallout especially is extra bitter because they act like it was always theirs when the best games weren't made by them. Some of the OG Fallout devs worked on New Vegas, anyway, so the fact Bethesda refused to let them make any more "spinoffs"(New Vegas was the true Fallout 3), just makes us all extra bitter because they destroy and dilute the lore or world with each new game they make.

  • @BrannoDev
    @BrannoDev Před 6 měsíci +3

    I think you've hit the nail on the head here. I remember back in 2008-2010, people were complaining a lot about how basically every single AAA game coming out was extremely linear with no player freedom. Gaming at that time was desperate for a quality open world game and it's why I think Minecraft and Skyrim blew up as much as they did.

  • @Roflmfaoftw
    @Roflmfaoftw Před 6 měsíci +1

    exactly why morrowind is regarded as the best elder scrolls game still. skyrim cant compete, modders saved it

  • @felman87
    @felman87 Před 6 měsíci

    I think Bethesda should take a page from the Yakuza series. Yakuza worlds are not big. Quite the opposite, they're actually pretty small as far as open worlds go. GTA3 is larger. But they do have a ton of interesting things happening in that world. Things are always changing, there's plenty of side quests filled with people to get to know. Less is more. I know marketing directors love putting large numbers on the box. But having the Biggest World Ever didn't help Fuel sell millions of copies. Sure, Minecraft's world is infinite but does anyone really care about that? No, it's the wealth of variety it offers with its crafting. Simple to pick up but plenty of depth for those who put in the investment.

    • @backupschmliff1156
      @backupschmliff1156 Před 5 měsíci

      That wouldn't really work for Bethesda. Yakuza games aren't really "adventures". You go around unraveling sinister plots. They should really take a page out of CDPR's book.

  • @kevinphoenix2007
    @kevinphoenix2007 Před 5 měsíci

    I feel as though Skyrim was where Bethesda peaked.

  • @Vantaz
    @Vantaz Před 6 měsíci

    A bit part of what makes bethesda games feel alive is that every NPC is on it's own schedule. You just can't sell a breathing world with NPCs standing still in one spot imo.

    • @backupschmliff1156
      @backupschmliff1156 Před 5 měsíci +1

      That's the post Morrowind Bethesda games. The magic of Pre-Morrowind Bethesda games was the way you could truly make your own character and experiment with the deep mechanics and role-playing.
      You don't get that stuff as much in Oblivion and at all in Skyrim.

  • @juanrodriguez9971
    @juanrodriguez9971 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Did you hold back from mentioning genshin impact as another example of how their niche not only could be free but also available on a phone?

    • @Ardrid_
      @Ardrid_  Před 6 měsíci +3

      Didn't think about that, actually. Its not an exact comparison, but it would definitely feel similar for most people.

    • @Drejzer
      @Drejzer Před 6 měsíci

      Considering Genshin is essentially a gacha BotW clone? He kinda did already.

  • @dangelos3143
    @dangelos3143 Před 5 měsíci

    We just want great games

  • @minakatahizuru
    @minakatahizuru Před 5 měsíci

    Elder Scroll 6 will be reskinned Starfield

  • @lurtz7966
    @lurtz7966 Před 3 měsíci

    strongly disagree

  • @sashapinesnguyenhienhoa8003
    @sashapinesnguyenhienhoa8003 Před 6 měsíci

    Ah yes bestha let your fan fix the broken mess for you intead of doing it yourself god i hate this company even tho i still play them

  • @sebastianguerrero6617
    @sebastianguerrero6617 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Honestly i would prefer any bethesda over bg3 and I don't even like their games but at least they aren't that crap

    • @Ardrid_
      @Ardrid_  Před 6 měsíci +4

      That's fair, they still have their own unique feel.

    • @MettaKing
      @MettaKing Před 6 měsíci

      I like the bg3 feel but i can understand the appeal of bethesda, heck i have 3 of their games. Bethesda has that magic, not the bugs, not the supposed exploration, but there's this certain feel of freedome to do whatever you want with their games which isn't possible with other open world games

    • @vissermatt1058
      @vissermatt1058 Před 6 měsíci

      Troll comment?
      Nothing against past bethesda... But bg3 is objectively a better experience then anything bethesda has made in a decade...

    • @Morshu_DarkSouls
      @Morshu_DarkSouls Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@vissermatt1058Hey your comment got sent five times for some reason, so you might want to delete those unnecessary ones

    • @vissermatt1058
      @vissermatt1058 Před 6 měsíci +4

      @@Morshu_DarkSouls completely unintentional... but that made my comment the troll comment lol. thanks for the heads up