Toyota Lexus 2GR-FE Teardown! Premature Death Of Toyota's Most Reliable V6 Caused By Obliviousness!
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By popular demand, I went out and found a Toyota 2GRFE from a 2008 Sienna to teardown. A first for the channel! This engine was diagnosed as bad by a shop and the van was sold to a salvage yard who then sold me the engine. Sometimes, I have my doubts when there isn't an obvious failure like a hole in the block, or it won't turn over. This teardown started like every other but WOW once I started pulling it apart, the failure became quite apparent!
The 2GRFE is a very popular engine and can be found in many cars such as the Toyota Camry, Toyota Sienna, Toyota RAV4, Toyota Highlander, Lexus RX and ES350, as well as the Lotus Evora!
These engines have a very good reputation as being one of the more reliable and cheap engines to own but that doesn't mean they can't fail. As we've seen on this channel many times, if someone is bound and determined(or blind and oblivious), they can ruin anything.
This was a very easy teardown and I really hope you enjoyed it!
As always, I appreciate all of the comments, feedback and even the criticism.
Catch you on the next one!
-Eric - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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Cheers to everyone watching an engine being disassembled on a Saturday night. We’re living the life ❤😊
I never miss it. I always end up learning something.
Sure better than network tv, this wasn't staged like pawnstars either!
It’s 06:30 on a Sunday morning here on my side of the world
It's the last video I watch before going to bed on Saturday night wouldn't miss it👌
S A TUR DAY NIGHT! 🔊🔊
"Toyotas were supposed to be reliable but I needed a new engine after only 60k miles. I cant believe i wasted 2 whole oil changes on it."
Lol
Ive got an 01 4cyl over 250k miles lol. Still ticking
@@demonknight796502 4runner with 368 still truckin
I had to clean out a 3.9 Dodge that went 86k on 1 oil change. We scrubbed the Quaker sludge out, I abrasive blasted the oil pump pickup screen, replaced the oil pump, and buttoned it back up. Filled it to the top with diesel fuel, drained it, put 5 quarts of diesel fuel and a quart of MMO in it, ran it until it was warm, drained it, filled it with oil and a new filter. Drove it around for a week, changed the oil, and handed the keys back. She made it another 100k, before it succumbed to the same fate. Delo 400 or shell Rotella is trusted in $40k engines for a reason, but people want to use puddzoil, quaker sludge, valvoline, castrol, ect.
It was the Blinker Fluid that did you in!
Co-worker has one with 421xxx miles on his Camry, still squeals the tire leaving every Friday.
I’m at 378,000 close to 379,000 on my 1996 Toyota Camry V6 can’t say anything but a great engine. People just need to do their oil changes more often.
48 years of fixing cars, I really expected to see melted Bearings after seeing all the melted plastic…I’m just amazed that the bearings were in such good shape. Gotta hand it to Toyota.
Put that engine in your ranger and you'll be the coolest guy on the block :)
@@mikem9536I'd sooner put a flathead V-8 with Offy heads in a Ranger
Hand all their problems. Design back to Toyota bearings are not issue most vehicles with Low miles are going have decent bottom End 😅
Watching this video made me sad. It was like seeing a very good friend at the funeral home in their casket.
I have an 07 Avalon. I absolutely love her. She had 24k miles on her when I bought her, today she has 92k miles. I'm a stickler for maintenance, oil and filter change every 3k miles, I also have the tires rotated with every oil change. Easier to keep track of that way. I love everything about the Avalon, smooth quiet ride, 30 mpg on the highway, and what surprised me most about the car is the power that engine delivers. It is so mild mannered putting around town, but if you stick your foot in it to pass another car, you can be doing 40 mph and she'll be spinning the tires as you pass, and by the time you get by you'll be doing 80-85 mph, and the sound of the engine is like a jet engine spooling up, it loves to scream. I don't know what the top speed is, I've had it up to 130 mph, and decided that was fast enough for me. Funny thing though, it feels like the faster you go in the Avalon, the more planted to the ground it feels. Older cars will start feeling light, and floaty at higher speeds. I think I'm different, I like to see the engine, hear it run, so I took the big plastic cover off. I plan on the Avalon being the last car I own, and when I'm to old to drive I'll pass her down in the family.
I'm a computer programmer. I'm probably never going to tear an engine apart. I watch for your excellent storytelling and humor. I appreciate your upbeat attitude in every job. It's fascinating to see the various ways engines can fail, and to hear your thoughts about them. I have learned quite a lot by watching you do what you do. Just writing to let you know that you are reaching people with your work, your entertainment, and your positivity. Thank you for sharing with us :)
You can start disassembling stuff any time you want. I too work in IT. I’ve reconditioned 3 Dyson vacuum cleaners destined for landfill. Together new they were over $2k. The trick is to pull stuff apart without the intention of putting it back together so that when you have something you want to keep it’s not as daunting
well said
I second this comment as a fellow computer programmer. These videos are so fun to watch
Hi, I’m also a programmer but like taking apart cars and trying to put them back together… if you can code you absolutely have the problem solving skills to diagnose and repair cars. Most of the time it’s just finding the missing semicolon in the engine bay.
If you WANT to: Find a ~2000s era SUV to learn on, they're cheap, the parts are cheap, it's not all programmed modules, and with the SUV you get a decent bit of room for most tasks. This all assumes you have space.. Avoid the 4.0SOHC though. 4.3 Vortec is easy to work on(the bellhousing is a bitch on the S10 Blazer.) Even if you blow up the engine(I did in my S10), that $3,000 is how many car payments toward a new vehicle that's no more capable? They'll deliver the engine right to your house and pick up the old one!
Gently placing the failed water pump on the table, with a towel to protect it from any damage, had me rolling.
I know, it changes from the usual toss across the entire shop 🙂
@@liver.flush.maestro I'm sure he's been waiting for a visibly damaged water pump to show up on one of these cores for a while to set up this gem.
@@Thanatos2996 In any case was funny in deed 🙂
You gently placed it on the table, wrapped in a towel, as a sign of respect for a dead part?
Same. I was hoping he'd do something like that when he said it was bad. He didn't disappoint
Some people don't deserve a 2GR-FE 🤨
yeah ppl they don't like baby sitting there care with monthly oil changes! "My toyota ran problem free , I only changed the oil every 2 months. Can buy another car from the cost of all the oil changes and let us not even talk about pollution impact from all the oil changes!
Even a reliable strong engine is not immune to human disrespect and lack of care. Thanks Eric
My grandfather was a mechanic and his shop still stands 25 years after he left us. I respect him through all mechanics. thank you for doing what you do
I hope he left it to honest folks, not rip off mechanics. Sure it’s hard work, but thieving people who don’t earn much to keep up with regular tier 2 maintenance is way worse.
What makes that cam sub assemble so awesome is if something tears up a cam and bearing you can replace that part and NOT the whole cylinder head like most other cars!
Super uncommon for a cam and journal to get torn up. What is common is one more source of a potential leak...not a great design.
@@ryanbrown918 Well your just wrong . Best design in the industry .
Can’t believe how decent the bearings looked after what happened. I’m impressed.
I can't believe the engine didn't lock up and bend a rod or too
2gr is known to have quality bearings
You maintain them PROPERLY that Toyota will run until you get tired of it 333,000 on mine. It’s been maintained
Ok salty cracker
I have 2 4Runners. I do 5k on mine (mostly highway) and my wife’s about every 2500-3000.
It's always the person who sees it overheating, but they're 5 miles from the home and keep going anyway. We had an older lady, afraid of being stuck on the side of the road, overheated and melted her engine and wondered why she needed a new one.
That's why you never buy a used car from a woman.
@@honuswagner9348 or at least check it over first, and replace the brakes for sure
@@honuswagner9348 ****never buy a used car from anyone under 30 years old.****
mine has now over 300000 and it still runs very well and smooth !
My 2gr just had the water pump replaced at 235K, did not overheat and is back for another 235k. It is an excellent engine.
Did u had any visible leak cuz I don't but my coolant has a real slow leak somewhere?
@@willpage79 Yes I did, it was leaking from the water pump. Not a lot at first, but gradually got worse. At first I could just smell it after turning off the engine. The heater inside also quit heating because no hot water was getting back to the heater core.
@@johng.7560 in mines I don't see no leaks and it's not overheating either ,I'm going to try to change the radiator cap and fill back up to see what happens
Looks like proper chain to me, much thicker than most "bicycle" chains in most cars
Number one rule of ANY engine, IMMEDIATELY pull over and turn it off if the overheating dummy light turns on. Don't even drive it 100 yards to a safer location, home, a shop, etc. Another tip is after shutting it off, turn the key to ACC and switch on the heater to pull away the heat. This will also allow the cooling fan(s) to come back on. Popping the hood is also a good idea. But, DON'T remove the radiator cap as it would cause serious burns. If you follow these tips, more than likely the engine will be fine. Had a Toyota Camry overheat after the water pump developed a leak. Did everything I just typed, and after replacing the water pump and coolant, still motoring with over 200k.
Great advice! I had a celica in 1986 which overheated on my way home from work, I pulled over, turned the heater on full and opened the bonnet (hood), I let it cool down, topped it up with water and drove it the last two miles home. The engine was rattling when it first overheated but by doing what I did I saved it. Changed the head gasket, timing tensioner (as it looked a bit worn) then drove it to the south of France and back, no excessive oil or water consumption, I was lucky, but at the age of 21 I'm surprised I had the foresight to do what I did. Thanks to Dad for showing me how to fix cars from an early age!
I pulled over as soon as I got an overtemp warning on my 2.0L EcoBoost while running TOTD two years ago. Didn't shut it off, though. Shut the A/C off, popped the hood, and let it idle (my thinking being to keep the coolant circulating and the fans running). A UOA showed no issues afterwards.
I'm still not sure why it happened; I can only assume that a coolant drain and fill I did the day before I left on the trip allowed some air into the system. Only coolant related issues since then was a minor T-stat housing leak and trans cooler line leak that were fixed together.
Depends if you know your shit or not. Heat on full blast does a very good job at diagnosing the exact issue. You have to act very fast though. A heat soaked cooling system will go supercritical in under 5 minutes. I slightly overheated my J35 a few times (multiple small issues, don't want to list it all) and full heat brought the temp back to normal in under a minute, even climbing a 15% hill for 10 miles after a long WOT pull!
I had a 84 Celica GT that overheated every day for months. 22RE didn't give a shit, I'd beat on it till the temp dropped again.
The 2GR in my 2008 RAV4 was still running strong at 310,000 miles when I sold it. It didn’t burn a drop of oil between 5,000 mile oil changes. I drove it like I stole it from the day I bought it too.
Who in his right mind would change oil every 5000 miles ! Talk about polluting the Earth. I have a 2003 Mercedes C320 with 250000 miles on it, oil changes every 12 to 15 000 miles. Motor has never been opened! Motor issues....belt tensioner pulleys replaced, x 1 water pump at 200 000 miles with altenator new bearings and brushes
@@c-teamtrading9690The oil was recycled. My Camaro with no catalytic converters is for polluting the earth.🤟
@@c-teamtrading9690 I change my oil every 3000 miles, even though it is synthetic. 2009 Lexus is250 - 186k miles
@@c-teamtrading9690 thats why his shit ran for 300k miles.
The vvti hose with the rubber section and the water pump are known failure points on older 2GRs. Both have been redesigned. There are plenty 2GRs out there with well over 300K miles and still going strong. With proper care you'll rebuild your driver's seat before the 2GR.
Thanks for sharing that. I heard that about the 2GRs (water pump failures). What year were they re-designed to address these issues?
how old do you think
@@kenbina2010 ish, for example my 07’ Avalon has the rubber.
@@kenbina 2009
Good points. Have a 2007 rav with the 2gr. Did the water pump preventatively at 140k. Now at 200k and the drivers seat just got a duct tape band-aid.
Hurts my feelings seeing a 2gr tore up. I work at a Toyota factory that built the one that is in the Camry. The one in Kentucky. Great powertrain really...
I think the Ford 4.6 2v engine is a great engine as well, but I have one that's been windowed in my back yard. Given to me for 'science'. This one actually has a broken wrist pin in it!
The 2GR is an excellent engine, as are many of Toyota's engines. I like the UZ series V8s quite a bit.
@@silicon212 I've seen that failure on my friend's neighbor's Ford that was started and then revved very high straight away in the dead of winter with questionable maintenance.
Fantastic engine. My 2008 Lexus gs350 had it rated at 303 hp. Sold it at almost 190k miles not one issue just regular maintenance.
What kills them? Lack of an oil level sensor, lack of proper maintenance, not using the correct oil, not using the correct filter, cracked filter housing, upper Rocker oil, feed lines crack, and that's all I know of. I own one in my 2011 sienna and it's the most amazing V6 I've ever experienced in my life. The power and torque and good throttle response that's not too sensitive is what I enjoy about this Toyota engine.
"Simple timing system" is music to my ears. All designs should be this good.
Until almost a year ago, I owned a 2007 Toyota Sienna so seeing this engine was a bit of a treat I'm not going to lie. My own made it to about 226,000 miles before I had to get rid of it. It was needing some parts replaced which wasn't a huge deal. The problem was that said parts and the engine block were basically inseparable, and they weren't coming out/off without potentially damaging other things in the process of the removal so I sold it to a business similar to your own.
Your observation about the rubber hose being used for oil reminded me of a problem I had with my Sienna a number of years back. Twice in the space of twelve or eighteen months or so I had a hose fail that caused me to lose basically all my oil at once, which is great when you are doing 70mph on the highway at the time it happened (both times, ugh). The first time it happened the hose got replaced. The second time it happened a different shop did the work and they said that it was a known issue with that model of engine and that Toyota had since replaced it with a metal part. They did the replacement on mine and I never had that problem again.
Thank you as always for educating and entertaining us Eric, I hope you and yours are doing well.
I'm very familiar with that hose actually, it comes in every once in a while still, but I always end up having to use the stupidest combination of 1/4inch extensions and wobble joints, it's ridiculous. But yes, it did eventually get common enough for an improved part to be released lol
Same. Rubber line had a pin hole in it and was headed back home from a weekend trip on the freeway when “low oil pressure” flashes on the dash… luckily I coasted into a grocery store and limped it home after 4qts of oil later. Still running after almost no oil lol.
Heard about this issue recently and that was my first thought too seeing this. I'm swapping my oil cooler line to the metal part too. You think that could have happened here? I figured you'd see more oil starvation signs rather than overheating
Does anyone know if the first gen sienna (98-03) is plagued with this issue?
There was a huge recall in 2010 for the rubber hose to be replaced with a metal one. I have a 2007 Avalon and got mine replaced at the dealer in 2010.
The oil line with the rubber section on the valve cover is actually a super common failure point on these engines and Toyota does have an updated part number with a full metal line that they started using in the later model years but it will still bolt on to the older model years for whenever that line decides to leak.
My first 2GR was still purring at 240. My current is like factory new at 130! They really are bulletproof if properly taken care of. Like many others here, I’m amazed how it held up. Great video!
Awesome. I work at the Toyota Casting plant in Troy Missouri. We casted those 2GR heads as well as the main engine bracket in the front of the motor. There should be a mark on the front and rear of the heads starting with letter ‘B’ followed by the casting die number. Casting date is scribed under the intake runners.
I agree, awesome engine and fun to see our parts after some run time..!!
My wife is a 100 pound Filipina. Whenever your videos come on I tell her that her favorite video is up. She glares at me and says "I can't even understand what he's doing (and then makes impact noises) then walks away 😂
During the video you mentioned the rubber section of the VVTi oil line toward the rear of the engine. That's one big flaw of this version of the 2GR-FE. A BIGGER design flaw was that this engine also rubber portions of the engine oil cooler pipes. Those 2 lines are located at the bottom front of the engine right next to a catalytic converter which gets very hot. My guess is that one of those rubber sections ruptured and if someone was driving 60 to 70 mph when that happened and did not pull over and turn off the engine soon enough, then good bye to this engine. Just a pinhole in one of the rubber lines would be enough to lose all 6 quarts of oil very quickly.
This happened to my wife while driving her 2011 Highlander a couple of years ago. Fortunately, she was driving in town, not very fast and pulled over and turned the engine off right after she saw the low oil pressure light come on. There was no damage to the engine...Toyota put the all metal oil cooler pipes on it and it's still running fine today. If these rubber oil cooler lines are not replaced, they will burst. Not if but when.
Shame on Toyota for not recalling both the rubber oil cooler pipes and the rubber VVTi oil line. They did issue Technical Service Bulletins for both but no full recalls. These 2 faults have and will kill these versions of this engine(mainly 2007-2011) prematurely. If these parts are replaced in time and the proper maintenance is performed, they can reach 300 to 400 thousand miles.
I had the flu last week, so I went back to watch an older tear down video. When you have a fever and body aches the sound of breaking head bolts loose is awful.
Glad you are better. I have been sick too. I hate the flu.
Currently working at toyota,at my shop at least the 2gr-fe is basically the least common for any repairs, usually its the water pump that fails. Ive seen some VERY rare that have a oiling issue on the cam phasers, 99.9999999% of the time is cause by bad maintenance.
How common are the front timing cover leaks ? I hear those and the water pumps are really the only issues with this engine..
@@danielbriones6171 Not going to lie, fairly common.
I would say the Tacoma version the 2GR-FKS is more prone to leaking timing cover, it’s a pain in the ass to reseal too.
Is that mostly the older style "round" water pump, or does it also include the updated water pump as well? Thanks!
@@badonkadonkey16 The new style water pump is included as well, not as often but it’s pretty common. It’s usually never a low mileage thing, most common around 130-180k miles.
I am a Toyota tech, I replaced one of these recently in a 2014 Sienna with only 120,000 miles, pretty much perfectly maintained. A Cylinder 6 intake valve spring broke and blew it up. It’s rare but we’ve seen them drop valves, mostly on early 2GR FKS from 2016-17.
You lie. Toyotas are indestructible! Everyone knows this. If you buy a Toyota, it will last FOREVER. and never ever need any repairs EVER!!! Although I will say my 2017 Hyundai Elantra I bought new just turned 100.000 miles, and hasn't needed ANY repairs at all. Weird huh.
@@johnfranklin5277 The 1980 Celica and The 1982 "Corolla Tercel" Tell a different story.
@@johnfranklin5277 I have a couple GMC trucks with 250,000 miles and according to Toyota drivers , they are not supposed to do that . I better put Toyota emblems on them . I've over heated them and nothing like this has ever happened. Lets pretend Toyota's actually last longer . Its still not worth the price and lack of utility and extra fuel cost.
@@jasavakOk Karen..
Buy a new one and see how far it will last
I just started to watch your channel. I like your style. No bullshit, just plain and simple adventures going through an unknown engine and explaining what you see. Sincere content without pushing a sponsor through my throat. Much appreciated. I wish you all the best and thank you for my enjoyment. Best, Job
So great to hear about ethics and your stance. As someone that might buy a used motor and replace my old one, thank you for not selling a known bad motor.
To see the torched cylinder wall , the melted knock sensors and intake manifold was unreal! Never seen that before. Would give almost anything to know exactly how hot that engine got. Great video man
Reminds me of my very first week on my very first job out of high school. Bob's Auto Repair. As the new guy I had the "pleasure" of tearing down and cleaning a Buick 455 that a little old lady had grossly overheated and continued to run until it died. I can remember dry-retching every time a new part came off of that engine and tearing down the oil pump was almost more than I could bear. Why, why, why, people can you not understand the concept of an oil change? Keep 'em coming Eric! I'll be here every Saturday night. Cheers.
Great video. My 13 highlander has the same engine. Looks like this one was a little neglected. Mine has 130k miles and hope it lasts a long time. I do all maintenance on it, including 5k mile oil changes. Nice to actually see the entire engine outside the car. What a treat. Thanks.
When you oh-so-gently moved and tenderly placed the leaking water pump you'd never use in any circumstances like a priceless vase, I freakin' lost it. You're awesome.
I have been watching your vq35, your mercedes,v12, your ls7, and now your toyota v6. I noticed you take a whiff almost every time you get that cover out. You definitely have the ability to report failures. Excellent presentation 👏
Your battle with the oil filter made my day. This happened to me during a recent service on my own car and I became unecessarily angry with it.
I have seen a very similar failure of the intake manifold on a 2AR-FE back when I worked for Toyota. The vehicle (a Scion Tc) came in making a strange popping sound through the intake manifold and had an assortment of codes. Long story short, found out the vehicle had been over rev'd and quite a few of those roller rockers had fallen off due to valve float and on one particular cylinder, both exhaust rockers fell off, but the intake stayed. At the end of the combustion cycle, since the exhaust had no place to go with the valves not opening, as soon as the intake valves would open, all of the exhaust gases went up into the intake causing the pop sound and melting that intake runner.
This is absolutely one of the best V-6 engines ever made. I remember when it came out in the Camry, it could actually give the Mustang GT a run for it’s money and actually pull on it on the highway. The only V-6 I’ve enjoyed owning more than the 2GR is the Honda J35, because VTEC crossover sounds in a minivan is f***ing hilarious.
@@TheRedc0met The J35 has VTEC.
You should try a Tuned Port 3.8L Buick engine. Or a suped up 4.3L. (V-6's)
Thanks man. I have this in my Sienna 2014. Enjoyed seeing you though teardown.
Hi Eric, another great teardown, thanks for all the effort you go to. I have said this before, I have had a driver say, "Oh, is that a temperature gage!". It was pointing at the stop pin when I got to it. Ted from down under.
I have an rx450h with the 2gr-fxs and although not exactly the engine you've torn down, it's almost the same and I'm fascinated to see this engine in it's component state, very therapeutic to watch!
Currently have 2011 Toyota Sienna with the same engine, has 210k on it and still runs great.
I've got the 04 Sienna - 3.3 L - best vehicle I ever owned. Totally low maintenance costs, decent on gas.
@@Chris_de_S nice but not the same engine as this video though. My van now has 226k miles on it.
Dude your commentary is excellent and makes watching your clips enjoyable , hi from Australia .
As a tech that has seen these fail, it's always a water pump that dumps coolant. The temp gauge doesn't register that it's overheating (no coolant on the sensor to have an accurate temp reading) and they run until they melt. Fantastic engine overall though
So how low does the coolant have to get for this to happen?
OMG unreal...
Hey Eric. Excellent tear down as always. The 2GR-FE are notorious for water pump leaks to the point Toyota made an updated version. The one in the video is the older circular pulley design. The updated design has a flower/clover leaf looking pulley, which has had less issues.
Yes but even the new ones have problems. Wouldn't be so bad except Toyota was idiotic in how much access they provided to the area.
Still watching. I was wondering if this one had the updated water pump or not.
@@mediocreman2 all engineers figure your either going to have hands the size of a newborn baby or will remove the entire engine for any repair.
@@Ghauster engineers get to go extra silly on Japanese engine accessibility
I still see a water pump leaking on these about every other week at my shop
Great video! Was waiting for this engine, thank you
I have been waiting for this engine. I have two vehicles with one. Of the engines I have, So far you have done a 5vz-fe, 3ur-fe, 1ur-fe. All that is left of the engines I have are 1kz-te and 1nz-fe. Thanks!
25:04 that sound you hear is the bolts loosing their pre-tension. They are designed to be elongated quite a bit compared to regular bolts. It’s almost like having a super strong spring pulling the mating faces together. This helps with keeping things together where you have extreme vibration and thermal cycles.
Always love the teardowns homie! Never a dull moment seeing these videos. I would enjoy seeing a teardown of toyota's i4 from mid 2000's, specifically the 2.7L 2TR-FE . I have one in my 2006 tacoma and it runs great. It has 160,000+ miles and the valve train still looks brand new. I would love to see the inside of one.
I was a jet engine mechanic and an electrician in the USAF for years. A single DC valve that opens and closes is 10k. A titanium engine blade is around 60k.
I'm so glad to see safety tote back. Safety tote has to be one of your most important tools in the shop. Great video, as always , buddy 👍 👏
He should get a clear safety tote for better visibility
16:30 kinda wished the companies who made engine stands also made drain pans that fit around and over the stand itself. Basically covering the orange bottom section so that even less mess would be made from jobs like this
You might be on to something here
Get a patient on this before someone else does lol
I use to work at Toyota and I've seen so many of these engines. like you said they came in so many different vehicles. if I remember correctly the filter had plastic in the center as a "support" for the paper filter so if it got hot enough to melt the intake that most likely melted long before the intake
My father used to work for the forklift division of Toyota he would order A diamond white pearl Avalon every two years in 2005 he was one of the very first people to get the 2GFRE in the Avalon prior to that I think it was released in the Camry if I remember correctly so about 15,000 miles into the engine it was developing a lower end rod knock, Toyota flew three engineers out and told the dealer not to touch the engine cause They wanted to take my fathers engine back for some R&D well my dad and Toyota didn’t realize that they had a teenage driver borrowing my dad‘s company car and I sort of like to race people in an Avalon On Saturday night… needless to say I can say I played a hand in this entrance durability.
@@timbrown9731 That’s a funny story ! Honestly though you shouldn’t have been able to hurt that engine in 15000 miles drag racing a few nights a week . There probably really was something wrong with it or you sat it on valve float for hours on end.
@John DiMartino if he was drag racing it prior to break in then yes he most certainly did some premature damage. Plus you think a teen would wait until engine is at proper operating temp before banging it off the redline?
@@kenkozawa9810 I did.
@@timbrown9731 Wow I do that with my moms Highlander. Its pretty fun
I’m really impressed by your work
I ENJOYED WATCHING YOU TEAR THIS ONE DOWN TO BAD THAT BLOCK WAS BAD.
Whenever I’m researching a car, I see if Eric has torn down one of its engines. Been waiting for this one for a long time.
You should make a t-shirt with “Bad Motor” in that font. Epic!
Glad to see you got you a new impact driver!!
Yea, you always were good about reading comments. I think we all appreciate that.
The reason for the relative "high price" is because its a populair engine swap into the MR2. Modern tech, huge power in stock form and the reliability make it a very sweet package.
Understandable but are there really that many mr2s out there?
I have the same engine with 250,000 miles on it still running strong
best timing system design ive seen so far
Given the carnage of the last two teardowns, this one was like a walk in the park (if the park was really, really hot).
Thank you for being one of the few honest business men around 😀
Thanks again for the Saturday matinee.
Thank you for the really great video. Always wanted to see inside this engine as it is the one in my awesome Highlander
Watching these videos always makes me want to go and change my oil
Goodwill is hard to recover, once lost, props to your business ethics Eric.
Atlanta Flames.
Holy balls......been a long time since i've seen that logo.
Yes I agree.
“The man who tells the truth doesn’t have to remember what he said.” Will Rogers
Yay. A new video on Saturday night!
I loved the fakeout where you wrapped the water pump in a towel instead of yeeting it into space
The straight six in the old 280z was the best motor Japan ever produced.i pulled one with 200,000 miles to put a 383 stroker in an old z.I sold the straight six to a guy in town to put in his z and he drove it for another couple hundred thousand miles and sold it still running good.id love to see twin turbos on the old Datsun/Nissan straight six.
JDM Nissan Skyline came with dual turbos. Very fun to drive.
@@suzi_mai I'm just surprised we don't see more of those six cylinders at the track with nitrous and stuff I bet you could get a solid 1000 HP out of one relatively easy and I bet would stay together without a lot done to the bottom end.
Maybe they're scarce or something I the guy I sold the one I had to was happy to get it.would certainly be a solid platform to start with
Neat! I think I requested this. I just pulled one for an Mr2 swap. Gonna be fun!
Maybe the Lotus relation has some bearing on price?
you're putting this v6 in an mr2? that's going to be awesome.
Shamelessly putting it in an original Turbo 94. Less than 200 in the country. The 3sgte will be refreshed and cleaned to look like a showroom piece - a very expensive decoration.
Even more blasphemous is that I have an m54b30 waiting to go into my 83 Celica Supra. I'm going to treat the current 5mge to some new rod bearings and head studs before turboing it, and slowly rebuild the BMW motor with forged everything - find a newer ZF 6 speed or even the earlier close ratio/non-OD 5 speed - with a final dream build actually using BMW AWD. it may take a decade, but it will be fun as hell.
Excellent video, im picking up my Highlander in a couple days time, your vid inspires confidence in my purchase
You get me every time when you say that you may be tearing apart a perfectly good motor, and just like that you catfish me into another poop show. I love it!
Another great tear down. Glad to see you on Powerstroke with A Rod live cast on Wednesday. Your perspective in the automotive business is different from them which I can see great discussions in the future.
It amazes me how mechanics like this know EVERY part of a vehicle. It’s mind blowing.
Phkn love you to bits dude. This and previous video. You what bits I mean. Comedy genius. Made my life literally. Last video I rewound _that_ moment five times rofling. And today, teh anticipation, right setup, little pause while you prepped the towel and then it came. R O F L. Please, please keep me guessing! Best engine channel, second to none.
Had a Toyota V8 3UR-FE that got so hot, it not only melted the intake and knock sensors, but a couple of the valve seats dropped as well, it’s crazy how hot engines get without people realizing it
I know you did a 3.5vq before, but I would love to see another one that wasn’t in an accident that destroyed it but rather one that self imploded
I know I’m dying to see a vq37 tear down.
@@NotAdamSnider same here
not entirely the same but he did do a tear down of the 3.0 tt v6 in the infinitis! to keep yourself tame until the time for a vq37 comes lol
Hard to find those, blowing head gaskets on a DE is 'difficult' and it's otherwise bulletproof. Racers blow them, because racer reasons. I have an HR and a '13 VHR in the driveway, I'm waiting those out like a hawk.
@@jacquesc3166 I have a vhr as well, but surely there has to be some out there with 200,000 plus miles that have just worn out
I love just binge watching these videos
Love the channel and seeing the engine gore! You should see if you can find an old V12 Jaguar engine to tear down
The only bad thing is bad maintenance. They have some oil cooler lines that get brittle and crack and lets out all of the oil (there is an upgraded part for that). They also tend to have a mysterious oil leak that no one figures out, but its actually from the timing cover.
P. S. The engine has to come off the car to reseal the timing cover. Big dollar job.
Honestly in all my years working on them I never bother telling the customer they need to fix that leak cause they're never really bad imo
I've never seen one dripping off the engine, just oily
@@Jack-qn4vt im no toyota tech but ive heard the stories. There are some that are quite subtantial. The chrysler pentastars also have this issue, but its very easy to fix. Lots of room (especially on grand cherokees and Durangos) and the rams with that engine. And engine stays in the car.
@dboatrig Literally the same thing happened to me on my wife's RX350. The rubber oil line had a micro-crack and it sprayed a thin trail of oil all the way downtown. I caught it microseconds from running dry. When I pulled the dipstick it was bare, added 3 litres of oil and it came back up and ran perfect. I switched that oil line and it's been perfect since.
These engines deficient oil cooler lines, timing cover leaks and dodgy water pumps are design fails.
@@petesmitt easily fixable. No machine is perfect. Although certain things are just not saveable. Like a Ford 6.4 or a 5.4 3V, or a GM 3.6 lol.
I'm going to pretend that it's 15 years ago and I'm watching this on a Saturday night drinking with my friends instead of the reality of having my own 2GR-FE kid hauler sitting in the driveway, watching this after putting said kiddos to sleep.
Good show kid you got me learning.
OMG IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
Honestly the only thing wrong with most toyota made engines is their owners.
That's what us dedicated MOPAR owners say. Most Dodge's live with abusive owners. All that technology for in the end, just a fancy OHV engine. " Mechanical complication increases the possibility of mechanical failure"😂
Can confirm, water pumps and rubber oil lines are very known issues. Done both on my 2gr in my Lexus. I’d suspect the water pump failed as well. The timing covers like to leak too, the seal around them was not the greatest from the factory. Great video!
You are totally correct on the timing cover. My 17 camry 2.5 had a leak at 50k miles and had to be fixed. Luckily, I had an extended warranty and saved myself 1300 bucks.
Good editing. The fast forward on the mundane parts is appreciated.
Interesting how that one unfolded, great vid thanks!
I missed the reason the chunk of metal detached from the cylinder wall! Just from the heat and the buildup of aluminum causing lateral pressure? I'd go back and look but it's more fun to ask over here. Thanks for another entertaining and informative teardown!
That cylinder ran very lean, causing extremely high combustion temperatures. With temps that high, it'll melt anything!!.
The reason that happened was no coolant and oil starvation. No oil film in that cylinder means high friction and heat plus no heat dissipation. The piston literally started trying to weld itself to the bore already weakened from enormously high heat until it broke relieving the stress.
When are we going to see a Northstar tear-down? I’d like to see an early production version and then a 2005 or later to see the “fix…”
same, just to see what Eric thinks of it. I head studded my 1999 Northstar so I kinda know what it looks like
@@MowerModdin I'd absolutely love to see Eric tear down some sort of flathead car engine. AT this point I don't care how many cylinders it has or what configuration it is, I just want to see him tear down an engine that's old enough to qualify for AARP.
@@TestECull anything that old is going to be a collectors item unless it has some after market inspection windows
@@bradhaines3142 Or it's sat in a field for 56 years and is so rusted out that there's no hope of ever getting it to start again without tearing it to shreds anyway. That being said you do sometimes find these old cars with bluetooth conrods in them! Mortske Repair got his hands on an early-mid 50s Plymouth sedan with a flathead six in it that went kerbal. #6 rod decided it was done connecting and obliterated EVERYTHING around it. Both sides of the block, oil pan, even damaged the bellhousing. And one of his most recent videos is of a 1956 Chevy 210 sedan with a smallblock/3spd OD manual in it that got flood damaged decades ago. Smallblock Chevies are tough engines but when there's water sitting in the crankcase for decades and decades even they rust up solid....the whole driveline was toast in that car, not just the engine. Poor thing. The body is great and he only wants 2500 for it; if I had 2500 I would have bought it, swapped in a 250 I6, and made it a daily driver.
That Plymouth engine had been hotrodded back in the day...the parts were old, crusty, dirty, corroded, but the engine still wore its hotrod go-fast goodies...and likely overrevved.
@@bradhaines3142 Gotta admit, though, the contrast of having such a vintage engine on the teardown bench against all the modern garbage he's ripping apart on a daily basis would make the video well worth watching. That's a large part of why I want to see a truly vintage engine on Eric's teardown bench; beyond my own fascination with seeing inside them the contrast on how we used to build them VS how we build them today is worthy of note. And.....well, seeing how the old engines blew up hasn't changed one bit if you look at all the yeeted rods from the modern engines he's torn down. Oil starvation is a universal killer.....
EXCELLENT VIDEO!! You have gained a subscriber! Near the end, you say all the driver had to do was look at the temp gauge. This is NOT always the case. I have an 08 Avalon and it overheated and EVEN AS IT WAS SETTING OFF EVERY OTHER WARNING LIGHT IN THE CAR, the temp gauge read normal (I took a picture of the dash at the time, so I later realized this). The water pump had been leaking (but was IMPOSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY other than disappearing coolant in small amounts). The problem was that the water pump gasket basically blew and drained rapidly. The ONLY indication was the fault code after the event that said temp above 280 Degrees. Not wanting to jinx myself, but I had the car TOWED home & made it a point to NOT add more coolant till the engine was cold to avoid rapid metal contraction / possible cracking (and I think that is what saved it). That was roughly 2 years ago and I am still driving the car (knock on wood).
This episode should be called "Fight of the Oil Filter". Wonderful!
The early 2GRs seem to be the ones with the biggest issues from what I’ve seen as an independent tech.
Typically what makes these bite the dust is just neglect :/
What do you mean "biggest issue"?
this one had me really laughing!!! safety bucket head! lmao!!!! never a dull teardown. I bet you move a lot of LS based engines there.. Very popular now. On my second LS build now. LTs are starting to become the new fad.. Any LT based cores yet? Keep up the great work!!!
It’s always a good day when the channel post a new vid 😋