Toyota 2GR: Everything You Need to Know
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- The Toyota 2GR was an engine platform with a few different variations and offers a great amount of performance for its size. It's such a good performer, that it can even be found in supercars from Lotus and Bolwell. Although the 2GR isn't a popular engine swap, it's still a great engine.
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My IS350 had the 2GR-FSE and I supercharged it to make 430whp. Great V6. Now I have the ISF with the 2UR-GSE!
Would you say you enjoy it more than the IS 500?
@@tmchristmas how much did the whole supercharging process cost? and did it compromise reliability? 😂 have an 08 gs350 myself
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@@trzezwy5536 konkret motor skaldam taki pod turbo
@Alex Ash bro don't do it, I have a 07 GS350
. I wouldnt do it. I just sold my supercharged 08 IS350. It wasn't much faster compared to my stock IS (third car, that i sold to my brother)
2GRFE is one of the best baddest engines ever...🔥🔥🔥
Yup. Love my 2009 RAV4 V
6 SPORT :)
@@yukonstriker1703 Love my 2008 Highlander V6 sport as well
08 gs 350😁
@@saintxavier5656 that has a 2grfse , not a 2grfe lol
@@patriotchad6308 what engine oil do you use ? Thanks
This engine is specifically why I bought my wife a 2016 Highlander. It's bulletproof design, decent power, decent economy equal low maintenance and longevity. It'll easily turn 200k with little more than 5k mile oil changes and a plug change at 100k.
What engine oil do you use
@@1996cutiebaby Either Schaeffers or Mobil 1
My 07Avalon has 207k miles. 2GR is Still running good and not burning oil. I love it. Only had to replace alternator
hell yeah! I got a 05 avalon xls with 2GR-FE and she's got near only 180k miles on it. it's only ever needed basic routine maintenance and she runs like a champ. currently nothing is wrong with it besides some external cosmetic issues that can be easily fixed. I'll never get rid of her ♥
@@ArcYT yea man don’t let go of her! Especially in this crazy car market. I want another Avalon, the 2011-12 body style is dope. I’ve been tempted to boost my Avalon. But I’ll keep it NA. I feel like it needs more fuel treatment when it’s up in the 200k range. And it seems to like 93 premium more than regular
Don't forget the 2grfse also came in the is350
2GRFE(268hp) was strictly for fwd platforms where the 2GRFSE(306hp) was strictly for RWD platforms. Up until around 2017 when the 2GRFKS released and they put that into all vehicles rwd or fwd (311hp). This is for sedans/vans and excludes trucks and hybrid vehicles.
@@yukonstriker1703 I’m confused on what you’re trying to say
My 2013 gs350 is on AWDtrain 2gr-fse
My 16 is300 awd has the 2gr fse.. so.
@@mslmatao I should have been more specific and said RWD based vehicles. The 2GRFSE is meant sit longitudinally but the 2GRFE is horizontally opposed.
@@arjunsecondary I should have been more specific and said RWD based vehicles. The 2GRFSE is meant sit longitudinally be the 2GRFE is horizontally opposed.
I have the 2GR-FE in my Australian 2016 Toyota Aurion and I love it with the 6 speed auto!
I own a Toyota vanguard 2007 it has the 2GR-FE I love it.. never had a problem with it and wow.. it has lots of power..
Great video. I have a 2012 Rav4 V6 and it's a rocket. And at 170,000 miles it's been flawless.
Great family of engines. Their are some key differences between them though and parts aren't interchangeable. One key reason why this engine is popular is it can access 90% of its torque at 1300Revs. The FSE has 30 bolts holding the crank and they designed it to run 12 injectors from factory. The thing these engines really need is to be sleeved or run a close deck. Sadly they don't have a lot of hype and thus limited aftermarket support but the potential is available.
There are some key differences between their and there as well.
@@yukonstriker1703 No engines come from factory as a closed deck. You'd need to hit up a performance shop. But really unless you were trying to hit over 600 whp then I don't see the point. You could achieve good power on a stock block with a Centrifugal supercharger with the FSE as proven with RR Racing & a quick search you can find a Twin Turbo IS350 with a Standalone ECU pushing 650whp. The FE platform has had a number of people run various setups from NA, Turbo & Supercharged with much success and documented results.
Not sure if this is right but I’m pretty sure the FE came with sleeved cylinders. Not sure is the FSE did though.
@@aaronpreddy35 the 2J came stock with a closed deck and pretty sure the 3sgte did as well.
@@danielavalos8466 I THOUGHT THE FSE HAD IRON CYLINDER SLEEVES ??
Honestly one of my favourite engines
The 2gr fe on my e350 makes my car a sleeper on the road and I love it
Great info just came across !
You are legend mate 👍
bro I'm a huge Toyota and Lexus fan and this video just hits the spot ........Nice
Me too this guy is great
Told me exactly what I wanted to know and so much more
Love having the 2GR in my Tacoma mated up to a 6MT!
Lexus GS AWD is very similar :lol:. The cars have a planetary full time transfercase with lockup. Underneath it looks like a truck. Extremely reliable powertrain.
The VVTi-W on the FKS I've heard allows it to switch in and out of Atkinson cycle rather than just being in Otto or Atkinson full time like the earlier versions.
On my Tacoma I had an aftermarket snorkel installed, and without the emissions filters and garbage, you can hear it switch. Once you hit 3500rpm it starts screaming, and it sounds GOOD
In summary the LS of V6's at probably a fraction of the cost, sweet. Great video!
Great video, great info, thanks!
My mom's minivan with 2gr fr, rips. Even tho it only has 250 hp the thing will spin tires anywhere if you want to. Very torquey
I'm late to the party, but I worked on one of the 2gr blocklines. We were the CNC machining line. I got some horror stories about that line and the machines, lol. Straight PTSD (joke).
I'm now on the 2.4T Block machining line.
Awesome video!
Currently fitting a fse into my ae86 :) this video was awesome
Nice, that thing will rip when it’s done!
Dude upload some clips of your progress!! I need to see this, I love ae86s
@@Dustrunnersauto
Hi
Is the 2016 Toyota Highlander 3.5 fe engine the same as the 2010 Toyota Venza 3.5 engine??
@@Dustrunnersauto
Hi
Is the 2016 Toyota Highlander 3.5 fe engine the same as the 2010 Toyota Venza 3.5 engine??
Thank you
Great video brother.
Actually the first 2gr-fe made 280 hp and 260 lb-ft of torque but the sae changed the testing standards the next year.
Brilliant information video, thanks ❤️
Thanks for watching!
They are great engines i wish they had the aftermarket support like the vq I honestly think the fse can out do a vq35hr but not much u can do apart from ppe headers n supercharger or go the more expensive custom turbo route either way love this v6 its a great platform to build on in Japan they use them in D1 pushing over 1000hp
They're great NA too . I spanked a 350z hr not too long ago (i have a video on my channel too lol) . And the highest NA 2grfse i have seen makes 331whp. Not bad for a small V6 lol
@@PResmejor Saw your video man. Who knew with proper intake porting and supporting mods the 2gr fse can keep best a 2019 SS Camaro. I’m looking to do the same setup on my 13 GS350. Thanks for help bringing more performance options to the 2gr-fse👍
@@boheng81 my pleasure ! The potential is there , just waiting to be unlocked ! And thank you very much ! 🤝🏽
There is plenty of support for the 2GRFE but yeah maybe not the FSE.
@@dylan4972 that is true but the aftermarket support on the fse is starting to grow now
2gr + Mr2 = perfection.
currently saving for a swap in my sw20
And they can sound so beautiful I hate seeing K20 sw20 😵
@@tylerriles3124 Had a 1MZ- FE in a SW20 & that was good as well. Now looking at the GR Yaris, 1.6, 3 cylinder with 270 bhp!! & the lads in Australia have got it to over 500 bhp ... Mad!!!
22 IS350 & I love this engine
What is the difference between the 2GR-FKS in the Tacoma vs the highlander?
I know one is sitting longitudinal and one transverse setup but other than that is it the same engine? I’m trying to figure out if the Magnuson supercharger for the Tacoma will work in the highlander.
Nice video 😎 they made the GR engines from 2003 onwards, 2GR was introduced late 2005
I've only had my Lexus for about a month. It's a 2015 GS 350 with 187k. I paid $13k for it. It's for my wife that doesn't drive long distances. Even though the GS 350 has 187k miles, it drives like a new car. Smooth. The transmission, engine and interior look like a new car. The exterior has minor issues, but they are cosmetic. I already love the 2GR FE in my Lexus. Such a powerful and smooth engine. Great video. Subscribed 👍. I thought I had the 2GR FE, but it looks like I have the FSE variant? Cool. I learned that today with your video
Is there any difference parts or repair methods/mauals between the FE vs. FSE versions? I currently have an FSE version out of a Lexus gs350 which I need to change con rod bearings. Repair info on FSE models seems difficult to come by online. Is FSE simply the same bottom end/repair process as the FE version ?
Solid engine no complains from my 09 IS350
So I have a 2014 lotus evora s. Are there not differences in the lotus 2gr fe? Like cams and timing? I would love to see a video on this topic of why the lotus 2gr fe is different!
very informative man
love the video,also if you can advise on the best way to modify a Toyota Mark x I'll appreciate that alot
Soon i'll be changing the gasket and seal set. I bought my harrier 350g(rx350) bj2007 last year and the engine is now 15 years old 😁 still pulls hard though and no smoke outta the exhaust either
Some people have gotten 400 whp naturally aspirated. They do have to run E85 though but it's very possible with a lot of work.
2gr is the best and my favorite 🥰❤️
I'm from Australia and I have a stanced out is350 I have owned since new. I wouldn't mind looking into boosting the car. Could you send me links or offer any suggestions to increase performance?
Got my 07 Lexus IS 350 running 537 whp with fbo and a super charger love it to death and soon to buy a isf biggest sleeper ever you should see the face of these bmw owners when they spanked off the dig
Did you swap your transmission too? I’m planning on supercharging my 06 is350 eventually, and I read on club lexus that past 430whp the transmission starts slipping and can’t keep up
What engine oil do you use
@@albertdphan I opened up the tranny and replaced the gears but I considered getting a synchro but so far it’s been good
@@1996cutiebaby always keep high mileage mobile one I’m at 161k on the dash 😭😭
@@juanchopancho914 what’s synchro
2GR FKS is in the IS300 awd as well.
I have a 2011 Toyota Avalon with the 2grfe engine I heard these engine have forged piston is this true in all of the 2grfe included the Avalon
need a bit help over here, actually im building an mazda rx8 and decided to put 2GR in it becuse i like its sound, but after looking at its variants im confused which would suit the rx8 best, please can anyone advise, thanks
Okay, but since you said Magnuson made a supercharger for the 3.5L in the Tacoma, will it also work in the 22 Lexus IS 350 F-Sport?
Where can I get the list of components the 2GR-FE motor have?
Can you make more on this motor please and where to get more power and turbo setup too
Hey! How you doing? I just saw the GR video and I have a 2015 toyota camry with a 2AR-FE engine. I was planning to do a swap to a GR and wanted to know which one I should use?
ACIS doesn't like to work under boost well the motor isn't strong enough. But this is a amazing motor that has shown to run over 700whp on stock internals.
the 2gr fe can hold up to 1000hp on stock internals turbo charged done here in the Caribbean , this engine is just as durable as a 2jz
@@brandonjohnson4914 You think based on that it's just as durable as the 2jz? Longevity,strength and quality is all equal? How about working on them? As easy or harder?
@@erinericsson based on the engine configuration, the inline six is overall easier to do everything compared to the v , but it still stands the 2gr is an engine worth having
@@brandonjohnson4914 Very interesting. Do you think you'll ever do a breaking point test to see what it can truly handle or you think anything over 1000 hp would destroy it?
What year car model should I source my 2G-FE from for my 1992 Toyota MR2 swap, most compatible direct fit?
Great video and new subscriber. I need some help before the next few days. I found a 2017 IS300 AWD. The car has 101k miles with extensive service records from our local Lexus dealership. We have an 08 ES and love it. The ES has 109k miles also with extensive service records. I want to buy the ‘17 but I’m curious to know if this is a safe buy with the 2GRFSE vs a car with the 2GRFE. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much.
How hard is it to tune or flash an ecu on the base model 2GR FE?
Just bought a 2020 RX350 F Sport ,2GR-FKS any good ?Any recommendations on basic mods ?
Thanks
I've been really shocked at times driving my '12 Venza. Ltd has AWD and is hard to keep from jumping off the stop light, great car and engine!
Please my car is a sienna with 2gr but the issues is that it delays to come on... Delayed starting please can anyone help me up..
Great vid!!!!
Thank you!
@@Dustrunnersauto
Hi
Is the 2016 Toyota Highlander 3.5 fe engine the same as the 2010 Toyota Venza 3.5 engine??
Thank you
It is indeed a great engine. My HKS supercharged 2GR-FE Highlander ran a best of 13.8 at 102mph!
I watched all your videos and I must say, I'm very very impressed with your build. I have a stock 07 camry v6 and I love the 2gr engine but the camry is front wheel only which makes tuning not worth it. I want to get the 2015 highlander limited and I was wondering how much was your total spend on the upgrades. Waiting for more of your videos
I'm in New Zealand and have a Blade Master, which is a flash Corolla really, but with the 2GR FE under the hood. A real sleeper, as it looks like every other small car out there, but will run a 14 second quarter mile. Amazingly economical too, Just a pity that damned rattle at startup is virtually impossible to fix. Biut, a beautiful engine otherwise,
NZ as well. My Aurion hauls ass and I always wondered what the Blades are like. With regards to the start up rattle, I tried my luck by adding Rislone engine treatment for a while, and used engine flush additive before doing my next oil change.
Rattling gone. Therefore, in my case I have to assume that the oil galleys were previously sludged up
snap
Add Nulon E20 additive with your oil change
Same problem just gotta use 10w 40 Penrite oil and make sure the screens in the high pressure oil system are clear
. . At the VVT lines on both cylinder banks.
Can you make a video over the internals of each engine. I have been struggling to find information on the variants. I have a 2GR FSE waiting for boost.
do u have any uodates on mods
Hi guys Lexus IS350 2013 - 2016 What toyota uses the same engine, and what engine is it. Thanks
Would like to see the 1gr series.
2IS350 is 2GR-FSE.
I have a 2013 AWD.
So where can I find a supercharger or a twin turbo for that motor?
TRD Aurion didn't have TRD built supercharger. Was first production vehicle to use new Eaton TVS supercharger. 320hp/240kw & 400nm/295 lb ft
I believe in 2GR supremacy 🙏
Can I swap the crank on a 2gr fe to a 2gr- fst
hmm according to this my 06 Lexus is350 doesnt have the 2grfse but I have heard and read from a few places my 06 Lexus IS350 does have the 2grfse.
maybe this video is talking about gen3+ lexus toy engines?
I might make my XRS 2GR
nice 👍
Thanks for affirming that my 07 Camry XLE V6 is hella fun until you feel the “boat” feeling in corners lol
it would probably feel a lot more planted with sticky tires, lowering springs and sway bars. but if you really want to experience 2gr-fse fun, buy a rear wheel drive 2006-13 Lexus is350 with 306hp and turn off stability and traction control. I've drifted mine around some corners and had stupid fun in a wet open parking lot. It will also rip to 60mph in a high 4 second range, matching or beating much sportier and more powerful cars from stoplight to stoplight.
Have you done any info on the 3.6 VR6 ,?
Can mods for the 2gr fse be done on the 3gr fse?
Got the Basic 2GRFE..
Didnt tell me what I needed to know. There are so many generations and variants to the 2gr-fe engines. People like me have issues finding replacements. For instance I have LKQ telling me a 2011 engine from a sienna will not work with a 2007 sienna. Why? whats the reasons? isn't all the 2GR-fe longblocks identical or did they cast them differently according to generation?
2GR-FSE is in my 2nd gen IS350
Yes
planning a 2gr swap into my 9th gen corolla
Anyone know if it would be worth any significance to swap the old 2GR in my 2014 Venza Limited for a 2GR FXS?
It'll certainly make your wallet lighter lol
Great video brother, does the 2gr-fse engines has any history problems like valve stem seals or valve guide or pistons wall let oil passes thru it or ignition coils worn out within 20-30k !!? My 08 Lexus gs350 do give me a white puff smoke upon starting up after the car driven and engine is warmed and smoke lasts for 3-4sec and it doesn’t happen all the time but I notice it does happen when I park the car trunk parked on an incline surface !!? Any help would be appreciated
just usually carbon build up and or oil burning totally normal with these cars I have an 07 gs350 bought VP racing octane booster and some royal purple fuel injector cleaners after a fuel treatment from valvoline and cleaned all gunk and shes getting plenty of mpg and no more smoke
would recommend throttle body clean too
I researched for ages and searched for almost 2 years for a minty clean is350/gs350. I entered every car into the Lexus driver website using their VIN to look up dealer service history. What I found (and saved me from buying) was that the 07-08 (possibly 09) were the oil burners. I must've looked at the history of 20 cars and was close to buying two when I read they were taken in for oil consumption issues. If I recall there was 5-6 cars out of the 20 that were taken to the dealer. After that I read on clublexus that they changed oil control rings on the 09 or 10. I ended up buying a 2010 that hasn't used any oil yet, and I've beat on it. some guys is/gs burn a quart every 500 miles!
I have a 2008 Lexus RX350 with this engine and Lexus recommends using Premium gas… any idea why that would be and for this engine is it really necessary or is Lexus just wanting me to get more HP out of the engine?
That’s just how they have it tuned for power and fuel economy. You might be able to get away with 89 but only if you plan on not pushing it hard and go easy on the throttle. But if you have a loaded car or plan on doing a lot of highway driving or drive a little aggressively than I would definitely use the better gas, you should anyway but that’s the basics of it.
It's used in the mighty Australian Toyota Aurion.
I got 2007 Lexus Rx350 210k miles, running like new. You guy must change oil every 5000 miles. I keep my SUV in perfect condition.
Thats it , you look after it , it looks after you .
My daughter has a 2010 Lexus RX 350 with a 2GR-FE and it developed a problem with the duel vvti system and a mechanic said it would cost $4000 to fix it or we could just unplug the vvti and it would run fine but would not have eco-mode. Could you please do a video explaining the vvti system and possible repair solutions?
just unplug it dude lmao fuck eco mode.
No mention of the Rav4???
What about the oil weights throughout those engines?
I have a 2019 tacoma requiring 0W-20.
Change it earlier
Or go with
0W30-5W30
i wish the 5sfe head had more support. not as restrictive as people think. modular too
Hi
Is the 2016 Toyota Highlander 3.5 fe engine the same as the 2010 Toyota Venza 3.5 engine??
Yes, it's the same engine.
I have the 2GR-FSE in my Lexus RC 350. Love it ! ! ! 👌👌👍👍
(AND I don't know, or give 2 sheites, what Scotty thinks....)
What year is it and have you had any issues yet? I have a 2015 I just got with 28k miles and just read about the 5th cylinder scuffing issue, which essentially scraps the engine, and now I'm worried.
@@Pygmara HI - 2015 with 53,000 miles. No issues with mine. I make sure the oil and filter are changed no more than 4,000 miles and twice a year. I use a high quality snythetic - Castrol, Mobil 1 or Penzoil Ultra. I usually have the dealer change it at a six month mark and I change it myself six months after that. I NEVER beat on my cars and make sure to drive conservatively until it warms up. I'll be changing the coolant in the spring. I wouldn't be concerned as long as you take care of it and do preventative maintenance. I have a 2003 4 cylinder Camry. (20 years Jan 2). There are reports the engine has problems, but NEVER had a problem with mine- Again, constant maintenance and drive conservatively. 😊😊👍👍
@@billiebobbienorton2556 that's good to hear you have no issues. I'll be maintaining mine similar, as I take care of my belongings. However, I've only driven 2k miles (26k bought) and noticed my drive belt was half shredded. I'm hoping this isn't why the previous owner sold it, there seems to be a little wear on the tensioner pulley bolt you use to decompress the belt, so 🤷♂️
Fingers crossed I didn't get a lemon, I really do enjoy the car so far and look forward to driving it for years..
@@Pygmara Sorry to hear about the drive belt issue. Maybe at worst, the tensioner pully would need replacement (?) I would think there would be a lot of noise or lubrication coming from it if it was failing. Doing a search this doesn't seem to be problem area on the 350 Engine. Keep me posted. Good luck and enjoy your ride. Reach out to me if you ever want to chat 😊😊
@@billiebobbienorton2556 no extra noise, only took approx 10 mins to replace, very easy. Seems to be just an old belt I caught just in time. I'll keep an eye on it but seems fine.
One other thing, what rpm do you idle at at start? I'm around 1.5k for a min then when kind of warm it only drops to 1k rpm. Is this normal for the 2gr-fse 3.5l v6 in the rc?
How can you supercharge the fks on Highlander? They said there isn't enough space for a charger kit in the hood
Who said there isn't enough space under the hood?
Could you please verify if 2GR-FKS has still aluminum block with steel sleeves as cylinder liners or they already use PWTA - Plasma Wire Transfer Arching for cylinder cavity coating? There is a trend most automotive manufacturers are switching for the latter to sheer off a couple of pounds per block. I can not find this info anywhere. I would greatly appreciate. Thank you.
I do believe the FKS is PWTA
Do the 2ur gse next
What can be the cause of engine not to steam normal once you start it will normally steam small and car we get off
What model of car?
FXE short block and 4 intake cams, FE heads and timing cover.
To achieve the Atkinson cycle Toyota does 2 things.
#1. High compression, as stated.
#2. They use a higher lift/long duration intake cam and retard it’s position by about 20 degrees or one tooth.
Oh and your cam trigger will be off, as a result. So you may need a piggyback to control the engine if your tuner can’t tweak the stock ecu
I have the fse in my IS350. It can definitely pull hard
Nice! Anything done to your IS?
@@Dustrunnersauto coilovers and wheels and intake so far. True dual and rr racing tune coming soon™
What engine oil do you use
@@1996cutiebaby royal purple 5w 30
@@colchronic 🤢
All 2GR-FE engines are the same? Interchangeable? I can install a RAV4 engine into an Avalon?
Yes.
3:52 mark x was so fine fr
Can you do a vid on the 3.4 v8 from the sho and its siblings
Yamaha :)
don’t forget the Lexus RC 300 that uses the 2GR-FSE
With approx 50 less HP. Not sure why they even made that car, the 350 has the least amount of power I'd want in a 4k lb car.
It would be nice if you mention their issues and year effected.
Issues I have experienced with the 2gr fe in an 07 camry
The alternator is sensitive. Will give up at about 50k miles.
The pulleys will start getting noisy as u rack up mileage. This will make ur car sound like it's very old. Change all of them at 50k miles as well
The engine deserves a better catalytic converter as it needs to exhale properly to get that HP
The vacuum system has some cheap plastic that will give way over time. Be on the look out for that.
This engine is basically bullet proof and will run very very hot without major issues. Enjoy it while it's still in production
Our 2012 Sienna must be a lemon cause the 2GRFE lifters are knocking at 170k miles. Very unhappy! Any ideas if you can swap without pulling motor?
Probably piston slap. Does it quite down after warm up? Mine has been sounding like shit when cold for 25,000 miles. No issues.
That knocking noise it’s completely normal in 2gr-fe engines specially when weather is cold
@@erickgomez1798 This knocking was not normal and was in fact a bad lifter. We needed up selling the vehicle due to the annoying high level of sound it made.
@@farnsnoble6645 I think you're just inventing problems.
@@piggy310 You are free to think however you’d like. The Toyota dealer is who diagnosed the bad lifters. So perhaps they also are “making up” a sound… if you are mechanically inclined you can tell when the noise is coming from the top end of a motor. In my case rear bank exhaust side valve lifter.
What kind of fuel injected is this engine?
Like is it direct injection, port injection, etc?
Port
I like the 2GR more then 2JZ, sure it can't handle crazy boost but its like 1/2 the weight and only thing it lacks is performance parts. Been some headway there but nothing like older famous Toyota engines (2JZ, 4AG) or anything Honda.
My Avalon beat a v6 camero