DEAD AT JUST 100K! 2015 Volvo XC60 T5 2.0L Engine Bites The Dust
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You guys wore me down. I went out and found a Volvo engine, after YEARS of requests! I know it not a 5 cylinder but that doesn't mean that won't happen in the future. Today we tear down a 2.0L 4B204T11 from a 2015 Volvo XC60. This engine was replaced at just 101,683 miles at a dealership. Today we tear this engine down to figure out why it was condemned, and it what happened.
Why am I doing this? My name is Eric and I own and run a full service auto salvage business called Importapart. Part of our model includes dismantling blown and bad engines to salvage the good parts to resell. We do not rebuild engines, merely supply parts to those who do.
I really hope you enjoyed this teardown, as always I love all of the comments, feedback and even the criticism. Catch you on the next one!
-Eric - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I work for Volvo as a Factory Technical Instructor. Before I became an instructor, I wrenched in the shop for 22 years. 5 techs, we saw 7 engine fails TOTAL. In 22 years. Today we see an occasional broken valve spring or burnt valves. Volvo's generally are rock solid 👉 if properly maintained 😂
Most die from overheating
Doesn't the latest revision to this engine change it to chain drive? I was shocked at the valve mechanism going to to roller followers and HLA as well as the other changes so late in its life. This engine may be around a lot longer in the related brands is the only justification I could see. Is the refreshed engine quieter with HLA instead of dimensioned solid bucket tappets
I worked in a European car repair shop. Fixed different makes from Alpha Romeo to Porsche. Each Volvo I worked on was fitted with a good engine. Only had 2 with bottom end issues. Ground the crank, resized the rods, tunnel bored the mains, new bearings, honed bores, new rings, head was good, new gaskets & seals. That car drove from the Adelaide suburb of Newton, all the way to Darwin, in the Northern Territory. 6 weeks later, we got a post card from the owner. They had the car serviced twice on the trip to Darwin. These newer engines & low tension rings disappoint me.
Didn't the Volvo models develop after Geely bought Volvo, dropped significantly in reliability?
@@aaronbryan5095 yes, they did.
My 2006 XC90 had over 285,000 miles on the 2.5 , 5 cyl ran beautiful. No problems . Someone ran Head on into it , saved my wife’s life but the car was totaled . Sadly wanted to reach 500,000 miles on it.
Define irony: engines created for efficiency, under the guise that they are better for the environment, can easily end up burning oil and spew out the byproduct. These low tension low friction rings were a problem for so many in this era. Subaru Toyota Volvo, who else?
Basically everyone really. The early four banger Duratecs also drank oil like crazy. Wasn’t uncommon to see one chew through a quart every 500 miles because the oil control rings had become completely ineffective and oil was just going right by the rings. Audi increased their tolerances for “acceptable oil consumption” on the TFSI engines as people kept coming in with insane oil consumption and they didn’t want to fix it. Just changed the spec and told people “working as intended”. A quart every 600 miles was their new spec.
GM ecotec 2.4 is another big oil consumer.
@@TPowell12and the 2.2
Audi
@@trainslife5638 all VAGs
If you ever want to do another Volvo engine teardown I’d love to see one of the 2.5L 5 cylinder turbos
After watching this, I feel incredible happy over my vintage Volvo (B5244S2 with real oil rings )😝24 years and 620 000 km, still perfect compression and emission levels. The plan is to keep it running for 1.000.000 km, what could posibly go wrong 🤪
Some bureaucrat could tell you that an oil change or some other regular maintenance is prohibited because your car is "too old" and force you to scrap it.
Sounds just as absurd to me as it does to you. Sounds like it belongs in The Onion or The Babylon Bee. Also sounds like upcoming EU policy 😮💨
I have gotten pretty proficient at disassembling motors thanks to this channel. Now I need him to show me how to reassemble them all!
Assembly is the reverse of disassembly.
@@KarlHamiltonJust with less screws 😂
@@emilskukojs3783and weight reduction 😅
🤣Wanna see reassembly? Watch the video in reverse (rewind)! 🤭
T- belts due @150k, 15 yr Volvo tech here love the content!
Just replace the engine at 100K
That's an impressive interval but why not chain?
As a master tech for Volvo, what caused this engine to fail at only 100k on the ticker?
@@catinthehat5140 not sure, they did chains on the inline 6 cylinder but all other engines for Volvo have been belts.
@@deplorablelibertarian most likely the known oil consumption, ran too low on oil for to long got hot and spun bearings?
This was a very interesting video for me. I bought a Volvo T6 2015.5 model brand new. I think it has the same basic engine plus a supercharger in addition to the turbo. That way it gets more torque and about 300 HP.
This is what happened to me. Before the second oil change, the oil quantity light came on due to high oil consumption, i.e. low oil level. I was very surprised when I was told by the Volvo dealer that that was expected. I insisted that a new car should not need extra oil after driving about 1,500 miles. After additional complaining the dealership told me that my car needed a software update. After that update the oil light came on after about 2,000 miles. I think the update was to turn on the light at a lower oil level than the initial default level.
After about 30,000 miles, not counting oil changes, I had added about 18 gallons of oil to the car. Eventually the car ran out of warranty. At that point the dealer came to us and told us that they recommend some major engine repairs to correct excessive oil consumption. This was very upsetting. The problem had been documented since the car was new, and then, when the warranty expired, a nearly $10,000 repair was necessary.
I complained to Volvo in Sweden and they got Volvo USA involved. Going back and forth for about two weeks, exchanging details about the maintenance history, Volvo agreed to repair the engine, without charge to me, as if it was still under warranty.
After the repairs, the oil consumption went away, and I have not had any other major issues with the engine since. However, it was unpleasant for me to deal with the local dealership and their stance. My situation could have been very different. Had they done the repair early on, I would have been a customer for life. Instead they managed to convert me to one time buyer.
Unfortunately, Congress gave dealers too much autonomy from manufacturers at the beginning of the 1970’s. Please don’t vote for any dealer for any elected seat for any party, state or federal. Thank You.
What?? No water pump?? I feel robbed! Lol
Water pump is electric, like new BMWs.
Figured as much.... Still thought he'd throw something in the bin to compensate for lack of water pumpage 🤷
@@user-gv7df3ns9l Purging the cooling system on these with electric pump is quite tedious job
@@user-gv7df3ns9l If it's electric then it could be destroyed by putting "just a little too much" current through its wiring
@@StaticVapour590 nope. Vacuum bleed it, always bleeds with no problems
I’m not a mechanic, but being poor when I was a teenager, I worked on engines continuously because I only had junkers. I still don’t know what causes bearings to spin! Is a lubrication thing, overheat, or something else? I’m now near eighty years old, and I eagerly await each of your videos! Thank you for making them.
bearing is to reduce friction, when there's a lack of oil it heats up and gains friction, eventually one side grabs on and gets spun around the other.
No oil. Babbitt is a great non-roller bearing material (when oiled) because it is soft and easily allows oil pockets to form (two smooth surfaces don't allow oil to remain under pressure, paradoxically). But being soft, with no oil supply, they quickly turn sticky, hence the tendency to chunk out and spin when starved.
@@ratdude747 Good info
Oil is lubricating the bearing keeping them suspended in the oil so technically in ideal scenario there should be never contact between crankshaft and rods/block. Also oil makes very important part in heat transfer in engine. So there could be many scenarios actually:
1- oil stop flowing/too low flow/pressure, there will be some oil in bearing but it will quickly run out of it, later with increased friction more and more heat getting produced and it starts to melt together, clearances are way out and it spun/destroys. Can happen because of oil pump failure, not enough oil, wrong clerances on bearing (like worn out already or freshly put in too tight), some blockage in oil passage, dirt coming there, wrong oil, water in oil, just failure of lubrication system.
2- engine is overheated first up to this point that oil is way to thin to maitain oil pressure (probably way over 300F) and lubrication in general, then bearing increase friction, generate heat and goes same story as above. Or just oil gets too hot from ex. racing on track.
3- pushed engine too hard like adding way too much boost so the oil can''t hold bearing above crankshaft (surface too small, to thin oil etc.) and it start to touch, then generate more friction, heat and goes the same.
@@oluskloc thank you, after all these years and rebuilding many (junker) engines, it’s nice to know the several things that can do it!
Simple, well designed engine. Just an issue with the oil control rings and the owner didn't do maintenance.
I bet, what was causing it, was the owner being just _too cheap for a regular workshop-assisted _*_oil-change_*_ in combination with _*_constant manual re-fuelling_*_ of oil_ .. Hence the clogging.
Likely even a regular towing-vehicle for heavy loads (horse box-trailers, boats, caravans) or other trailers. Since this clocking is typical for such vehicle-usable (cold-start heavy-duty) from the first revolution, always driving with heavy load while also most often driving with low revs for the engine to have enough torque (Diesel).
Each of the aforementioned conditions alone are getting serious over time and eventually causing lasting harm, while Volvo-engines are pretty stubborn about assisted dying and are usually notoriously forgiving when running even any longer p[r]etty non-lubricated anyway, but _both together _*_in combination_*_ is always and without exception a recipe for disaster_ and a clean kill for virtually every make of engine. Eventually it hits Volvos too .. Such a shame!
Though even in the past, most engines died by the hands of their owners anyway (fundamental and wilful neglect, indifference, lack of interest et cetera), and *not* of mechanical failures or because of nefariously engineering by ill-fated managerial-driven cheapo-politics (which is the No #1 cause of engine-deaths theses days). It's a shame though.
I'd argue in favour of mandatory tech-courses of minimal mechanical courses.
Volvo very recently increased the time available for the warranty for oil consumption issues. The 2012-2016 T5s had a new ring design that lead to severe cloggage and thus oil consumption.
I just had my pistons & rings replaced on my vehicle at 95k miles on the dime of Volvo. She was drinking 1.2 quarts per 600 miles.
Unfortunately the warranty is only extended to 100K- conveniently just before this engine failed.
@@dogoonubs997 Great point! I've heard of some people getting "good will" from Volvo if they are close to the 100k and had their car dealer serviced for the time frame up to 100k.
I sure hope this poor person got some goodwill coverage- an engine failure like this just out of warranty really does suck.
@@scottbauer2814
Volvo take a page out a Toyota's 2AZ book?
Was your engine as smooth afterwards? I just had this done also and it seems so much more "buzzy" now.
I'm on day 34 of quitting smoking/tobacco, this channel and 'Curious Cars' channel(highly recommend!) have been on autoplay for basically the entire month and I really think it helps as therapy! the videos are low-stress and funny.
Eric, your channel is great and I really have no criticisms. You are entertaining, informative but not over the top with obnoxious click bait strategies (mouth agape thumbnails, movie reference cut-scenes, etc) . This channel actually makes me want to buy an old blown engine (probably a Ford 300) and disassemble it in the garage.
Thanks!
good on you for quitting smoking! keep going and don't give up! :)
Congratulations on day 34 of your goal to stop smoking. It can be rough, but it is worth it. Especially if you were a heavy smoker like I was. My wife & I are now almost to year 34, coming up in July! I still miss it at times, but luckily she doesn't. Chew a lot of gum! Sugar free that is.
If you can stop for a day - you can STOP forever. Well done. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA
Good work..I quit…get info from cancer society many tools can help
Kudos for quitting.
I'm on year 52 after quitting, way back in 1972. I tried it as a pre-teen, almost choked to death, threw up like crazy and knew this wasn't for me. Instead of insisting (you'll get used to it, buddies said) I just stopped and never looked back.
My dad told me that during WWII, because no new cars were being built, nor new parts made, him and his friends used to replace worn rod bearings with strips of leather from old boots (or belts). They could nurse a few more miles out of old engines that way. Pans were easy to remove back in those days because they were designed for owners to work on, unlike now.
yep i have heard of people being able to use leather to take up some clearance and you could also use brass shim sheet too to take up some wear as dad used to use shim sheets to build up worn bearings, he also used to use a big branch of a mango tree as a crane to hoist the engine out
@@the_cazador7011 During WWII, most all metals were hard to come by. They were building B29s, Tanks, and P51s by the thousands, so any metal was scarce. Bullets have brass casings too. In 1943 all pennies but a few were made from steel because of the copper shortage.
Impressive
In the Eastern Bloc countries in times of supply shortages of communism era, wooden pistons made of hard wood like oak or walnut wood were used instead of normal ones. They were used mostly in motorcycle engines. Of course, their durability was short, but they allowed to drive a hundred or two hundreds of kilometers. Not a bad solution when the alternative was not to drive at all 😆 and replacing the piston in a relatively simple two-stroke engine was easy, cheap and quick.
Volvo was one of the very first to the "4 cylinder all the things" party and they did a pretty good job. Granted, being boost-nuts since the early 80s gave them a lot of experience.
Pretty unfortunate to me. The 3.2 was so reliable, and the old v8 was excellent too. I’d consider a v90 r design if it didn’t have a 4cyl
@@I_Do_Cars I enjoyed many 5 cylinders through the years and just picked up a T6 manifold and turbo because I suspected it was a near bolt-up to an M52. Appears I'm right (engine mount, not withstanding).
@@I_Do_Cars agreed. I'm still driving a '99V70 5 pot 2.4 N/A with 421,500 original kms here in Canada, and I also have a 2.3 T5 S70 with a manual trans. Love my 5 pot engines and was disappointed when all Volvos got 4 cylinder engines. I won't buy a modern 4-cyl Volvo but I will keep the old P80 platforms running as long as I possibly can.
@@user-zh9zz5ru6r I also had a 960 with the B6304, which I did earlier cams on. I then realized why Volvo switched to milder cams for moar torque-- but I was young and dumb and 7000 RPM inline 6 sounds were appealing.
@@corystansbury I love the 7/900 series to this day. My Dad had 2 760s in the 80s and 90s, but both were 2.3 redblocks w/ turbo+ intercoolers, I never got to experience the very reliable B6304
As soon as i read the title I guessed what caused the failure. 2015 and early 2016 were notorious for burning oil due to those inadequate little oil rings. Sometime in 2016 they switched back to a more standard ring and no longer seem to have this problem. I have a 2018 S60 with 90,000+ miles and so far I haven't had to add oil between changes. Also I have heard that Volvo accepted responsibility and replaced the rings on some of the 2015-16 model cars at a discounted rate.
Finally I love the content you provide. Keep up the good work!
No worries Eric, the valve/cam cover removal step was basically flawless... Surprised it wasn't glued to the head to require assistance from "Blue" 😅
Lol I knew it he was talking to you 😂
I still remember that glued cover
Volvo means "I roll" in Latin. Thought you guys wanna know. At least you know that Sweden and Switzerland are separate countries ;)
But Volvo Germany surely??
@@volvo24091Volvo is only a brand name used by the Chinese car company Geely now. Nothing Swedish left.
@@volvo24091 i saw an article a decade ago by jeremy clarkson saying that volvo had went bankrupt and were merely a name on a collection of other manufacturers parts. he loved his xc90 though. perhaps there's a manufacturer in germany putting a volvo stamp on the custom parts by request.
I'm politically neutral, just like Sweden. 😁
@@volvo24091 Hella/Bosch/Continental in Germany manufacture lots of parts for all cars and stamped in the part there's usually car make and country the part is manufactured in.
Yes ! It's tear down time. I don't think you have done a KIA 2.0T yet. WHEN mine seizes I'll send it to you.
I'm still hoping for some truly ancient engines. Flathead Ford V8 comes to mind. Model T engine. A Willys Go-Devil would be fascinating, especially if it was the F-head!
Motorcycle engines would be cool too
@@sobrr13 Yep. I'd love to see a Lycoming or Continental flat four across his desk, too.
@@sobrr13he does cars. Not motorcycles.
Got a 2015 S60 with this same engine with 125k and it runs great. Changing the oil every 3k miles with the best oil you can get is a game changer for these early 4 cyl motors. Changing oil a lot with synthetic oil is the best thing you can do to reduce carbon deposits. Oh, and use the highest octane gas you can get is recommended as well😀
lots of people here in Europe change their oil only every 20 - 25k km's (13 - 15 k miles) and in combination of this oilburning engine because of emissions related tiny little oilrings makes this happen.
@joskd8491 VW long life engines are built to replace oil every 20k km. Any issues in these engines aren't really oil related.
@@mipmipmipmipmip lol
I've got the 2015 XC60 with ~120k on it. I change the oil every 3k +/- with synthetic. The engine sounds great. It lives outside year round in Chicago, and the only issue was the damn ever present roof rail drain clog issue. It ended up soaking my driver's side foot well. Meh, it's a glorified/posh German Shepherd and tool carrier.
I just make sure the engine is clean on the inside and keep the filters clean. And, yes, I use the 93 octane as well.
As a retired mechanical engineer this is by far the best engineered engine I've seen torn down. Simple and reliable and except for the cams easy to service. I think this engine would last forever with good maintenance. Details of machining are very nice. I should probably buy one of these used with lot's of miles just to see how long I could make it last. The only inherent problems are the direct injection and the low tension oil rings. The oil rings can be solved with oil changes at no more than 5K. Companies are now marketing PFI add ons between the throttle body and the intake with the software to manage it. Could try that or clean intake ports every 30K.
I'm a mechanical engineer also. I don't share your optimism. Want to buy my wife's '16 XC60 T6?
Engine may last forever but Volvo interiors are horrible. The upholstery cracks, tears and falls apart and plastic parts deteriorate from UV exposure.
@@Dave-uu6ol I'd take it free to help with my experiment!.
When do you see this starting?
I have an xc90 v8, such a massively underrated vehicle. Everything works on it!. Every switch, every feature!. Fantastic vehicle, i got it for 300 bucks cos he filled it with diesel!. One fuel pump, tank drain. And she is good as gold! 195k miles, burns no oil.
Those suv are like a tank 😂... Be careful with... Those Yamaha engine cost alot to fix 🫨🥴🥴
you stole it 👍
I leased for 3 years, a 2015 V60 4 cyl turbo for my wife. It blew grey/black smoke out the exhaust when she drove up the hill when the car was new. No dipstick to read the oil level. I was adding 1 qt of oil every 1000-1500 miles when the add oil light came on. When I took the car to the dealer for every service, I complained that there was a oil burning/usage problem. They documented my complaint, but they did nothing. I didn't care, as the car was leased, and I was turning in the car at the end of the lease. Nice performing engine, but an oil burner/user from beginning to end of lease.
Oil rings were indeed a common problem on these engines in the first generation. A facelift made the rings a lot bigger. Belt interval in the netherlands is every 120.000km (75.000 miles)
I've seen stacked rod bearings a time or three. I even had one set cause a legitimate intermittent rod knock. The rod bearing spins and one half lodges under the other, then becomes free again randomly. Definitely a show & tell moment in the shop that day!
Did you read my mind/search history??
I literally just searched for Volvo teardowns the day before and found none (was thinking of buying one and wanted to have a look at the internals).
Well... Now there is a Volvo teardown. Keep up the great work!
What year were you looking at? If it's 2017 or earlier make sure those piston rings have been replaced. Their early 2.0s on the SPA chassis had horrible oil consumption problems.
Informative video.
I have a '95 850T. 296K miles,runs like a scalded cat,as they say.
Unopened engine,original:turbo,transmisson,catalytic converter.
Uses a quart of synthetic oil every 1500 miles.
My own maintenance.
NO rust anywhere. Maryland.
The last time I was this early, my wife got pregnant!!
😂😂😂
Time to go get the morning after pill, it start decorating the baby room.... 😂😂😂😂
Was she your wife at the time?
@@blakehintz3207 yes!
Lmfao
I think the big issue with this is multiple things adding up. This year, the oil control rings were a faulty design that clogged usually around 70,000 miles and wouldn't properly scrape oil off the cylinder wall and cause excessive oil consumption. As others have mentioned, there was an extended warranty offered for these issues to replace the pistons with rings. I had that done on my 2015 S60 just a few weeks ago. With no dipstick, there is no easy way to check the oil reliably. Plus, to be honest, most people these days don't check the oil, don't know how, and wouldn't know what they are looking at anyway. 2nd issue is extended oil change intervals. It's 10,000 miles on these engines, which is too much to begin with, but when they start consuming oil, it makes it that much worse. Next is the oil spec these need. For a 0W-20 energy saving oil, it has to have a specific VCCRBS0-2AE/SAE spec oil that isn't easily available in the US. They recommend the Castrol Edge Professional, but you can't buy that off the shelf and it's not sold online. There is a Liquid Moly you can get that meets that cert. They also have a 5W-30 recommendation if you can't get the OW-20, but it has to meet an ACEA A5/B5 cert. Not many US oils meet that spec. You have to get the Penzoil Platinum, or Castrol Edge full synthetics. If you are like most people and just go to an oil change place, 99% positive most of those do not meet that spec, so you're going to have issues even worse with oil consumption. The engines after these 3 years or so had the new piston and oil ring design and weren't so prone to this issue. All in all though, Volvo makes some good engines and they are pretty darn reliable.
Good stuff. I would add that the ACEA A3B4 spec is actually superior to the A5/B5 except for gas mileage, and you can find it fairly easily, in the 5W30....in case you get desperate. I order the RB spec Liquid Moly myself.
Volvo wouldn't cover this under warranty in the UK.
How much was the piston rings change? And do you live in the US? I think in Europe they dont change this under warranty unfortunately :(
@marcellkondor3414 yes I'm in the US and it was completely covered under an extended warranty
I recommend buying oil from FCP Euro. Lifetime warranty and free brakes, free oil after 2nd times!
FCP Euro will take your used oil and collection info from your used oil so you will see all information as metal shaving/coolant/gas containment.
My first and only Volvo was a 92 440 in England. Shifting with the left hand is awesome
Ive grown to appreciate older volvo and saab engines
Thank you Eric for another great tear down and pointing out again that proper maintenance goes a long way. Wish you all the best and all the success.
Also a Volvo tech of 5 years here, i'd love to see a teardown of the 3.0/3.2 Si6 engine, the Ford/Volvo lovechild engine
I would certainly like to see that as well.
So, is it 3,2 i6 engine crap?
Does this particular engine have bad super thin oil control rings? Or is it okay?
What can be done to prevent this, or at least prolong the life of this engine?
Generally speaking, I think the long life oils are some of the culprit of many otherwise good engines breaking down. I've seen many Audi and VW engines inside, also the more expensive ones, broken, due to way too long oil intervals and long life oil making sludge all over the internals, for example blocking oil galleries and other parts, for example turbos.
Personally, I always change engine oil every 5000 km, no matter what, and always the oil filter as well.
Never had an engine that burns oil. In fact never had an engine break down. Knock on wood.
Cheers.
@@monzarace I have 2 Volvo P3s with this 3.0L straight 6 turbo, and they consume very little oil....1 L / 6000 miles. I have magnetic oil pan plugs, and I'll find < 5 tiny sparkles. Even with conscientious maintenance, I think the life of the engine depends on how hard you drive it. Race car engines need rebuilding every 30-50K for a reason.
Love seeing the teardown on engines I will never own. Some of these are engineering marvels? Thanks for the Saturday Evening videos!
Love your show. Look forward to seeing it every week. Thanks for your efforts.
As a mature gentleman, mid-70's, I have a hard time wrapping my mind around 2 hp//cu. inch in a daily driver..
Thank you Eric! 👍 my friends dad worked at Volvo engine factory Skövde in Sweden for many years untill his retairment day (30 years)
Oh my goodness! My dreams have come true...I've been asking for this for over a year I think. Thank you, thank you!
Great videos. When he tore down my Honda engine and stated he didn’t see many of them. It made my year!
EDIT- I guess I called it!
I bet this failure is due to the infamous oil consumption issue. The problem is due to the oil control rings due to simply being too thin, and thus not having enough force pushing out on the cylinder walls to properly scrape off the oil. The engine then burns oil, carbon builds up on the piston and more importantly the rings from that, and the problem snowballs.
The only real fix is new, updated pistons and rings. Yes there is a TSB and even an extended warranty for this issue, but only up to 100k.
Source- My dad has an s60 with the same engine, and we have been dealing with the same issue. An engine flush every oil change helps clean off the carbon on the oil ring and staves off the oil consumption for a while.
P.S- Eric, the belt interval is 150k. My dad's aforementioned s60 is just about to come up on it.
buying tier 1 gas (shell/exxon and similar) is proven to make a huge difference in how clean an engine is, that'd help the problem
My family always does- probably why the oil consumption has never gotten as bad as others have experienced.@@bradhaines3142
The oil rings 20:54 stick in ring land then don't keep cyl wall film minimized. The other rings stick too. Low tension rings and long oil intervals have been bad news across the industry. DI is a factor as it is more sooty and that impacts oil via ring wipe down. The port + DI cleans intake valves but the DI soot problem is another reason several added back port injection.
150k seems insane. Sounds like they are trying to compete with timing chains. That and not many will keep these cars past a certain mileage point anyway. I just did the 2nd timing belt on our Acura 3.5L V6. 178kmiles and the engine still runs like new.
@@jimmyaber5920 Yep. The thin low tension rings help with fuel economy, but then you get issues like this. Not worth it in my opinion- that's why I drive an old truck.
Excellent video, Eric! Now I'm going to watch it . . . .
Reminds me of something Groucho Marx is alleged to have said:
"From the moment I picked up your book to the moment I put it down I was convulsed with laughter. Some day I intend to read it."
😂
Love that satisfying clack when the head bolts brake loose
Truly professional I learned a lot. great timing, story line, photography. Congratulations on the great work
Given the age of the car, I was expecting broken piston rings since this a major problem on the Volvo 4 bangers.years 2014 - 16. I totally agree that this was a case of neglect - insufficient oil quantity, cheap or improper oil. THIS IS WHY I HATE ELECTRONIC OIL QUANTITY DETECTION SYSTEMS, YOU NEED A PROPER OIL DIPSTICK!
Oooh! The XC60 Carbon Edition!
I literally laughed out loud at that one!
Have to say this was a very well made and *interesting* video. It moves on quickly enough for those who (like me) have a relatively short attention span and still retains the interest level without falling into the trap of dumbing everything down too much. All clearly shown and explained - clear, well-lit camera angles. Well done - I'll doubtless be dropping in again some time soon.
Great video as always Eric!
I think Volvo Germany is just one of their branch...anyway do you ever heard of the Volvo B8444S engine ? This 4.4 L V8 Volvo engine (over 640hp) was built by Yamaha in Japan under Volvo design and specifications and was mated to a six speed Aisin Seiki AWTF80-SC...one of my dream engine.
The V8 only put out about 320 hp when it was put in Volvo cars - XC90 and S80. Except for the 2005 model year, it was a good engine.
Do you like pudding? I keep seeing the boxes in the background .
Those rings were updated after the first model year(s) of the VEA engine. They had decided to use the same design as the previous 5cyl, turns out they weren’t so good. They also had an issue in the first years with spark plugs, the manufacture was faulty and the ceramic fell off.
I am close to a Volvo dealer, to echo the words of the master tech, they are incredibly reliable engines.
Always entertaining videos. I love to see you dismantle those junk engines. It is actually very educational to see how different engine makers design their OHC engines and how they are all now trying to make engines cheaper to manufacture.
Lovely thick bearing surfaces on these Volvo engines.
Compare that to the tiny ones on the Hyundai/Kia engines.
yet these are actually LESS reliable than korean cars
@@bradhaines3142😂lol absolutely not
@@dgdave2673 theyre so bad they sell with a lifetime OWNER TRANSFERRABLE warranty. the maker has that little confidence in it, they actually say 'i promise we'll fix it'
Do ya think there's a VOLVO factory engine builder thinking "You animal. I gave you a fine engine that could have lasted a long time and you burn it up in only 100k miles."
Once. It’s hard to be outraged a second time
Nope, more likely “I’m glad it made it out of warranty.”
As long as you buy a new Volvo, they're sound as a pound.
Another fine way to spend a portion of my Saturday evening.
Have just rebuilt a D4204T5 engine from a UK XC60 2014. 2L, 97k, 4cylinder, diesel, with a crack between 2 + 3 , bought a replacement engine, cracked liner!, relined and rebuilt, very nice engine and car. Biggest problem is burning oil due to a poor design on the oil control ring that has been addressed in 2016 onwards revisions. Love the channel, great to watch the tear downs and the patter!
That engine was rode hard and put away wet, total lack of maintenance by the owner. My sister had a Volvo, her husband stayed on top of the maintenance, they never had an issue until it was hit hard in the rear. Had around 250,000 miles on it and insurance totaled it.
Always cool to see some engines that are common in europe.
I think it would be fun to see you putting an engine together for april 1st.
An engine build on the 1st would be great (inb4 it's a teardown in reverse LUL)
good to see this video being a two Volvo family.
great content ! And love the explanation at the end ! I was reccommended buying a XC series used Volvo, now I know a lot more - thanks a bunch !
I have a S60 T5 with an inline 5 and it is a massive oil burner. Talking 1 quart of oil every 1000 miles, sometimes even after 700. Now that I’ve seen the rings on this engine, I can confidently say this is the culprit.
If you own a P3 gen S60, XC60, XC70, or anything with an I4, I5, or I6, you have to check the oil. Weekly. They will absolutely go catastrophic very quickly.
Thank you for the video!! If you can find one, I’d really like to see a 2012-17 inline 5 teardown!
I would argue anyone who owns ANY engine should check the oil level at every gas fill up.
VAG says: 1 litre every 1.000 km's is within specifications
Dan that's too bad. I own old Audi 5 cylinder engines and fortunately they don't burn (unless I'm over 90 MPH for a long time) or leak any oil. But that was before these narrow tolerances were a thing.
Interestingly, ALL the current Volvo engines (with the exception of a few 3 cyl 1.5L) are 2.0L 4 cylinder, both diesel and gasoline. The different states of tune (T3, T4 etc) are set by the degree of additional features. So the top end "T8" is touted as being a replacement for a V8, having turbocharger, supercharger AND external electric boost, providing 455hp in total.
455bhp is on the recharge models, the earlier T8 have a slightly less powerful electric motor on the rear (89bhp vs 143bhp)
I have a 2020 T8. Volvo is sandbagging those numbers. Routine 0 to 60 is under 4 seconds.
@@phukfone8428Interesting I also have a MY2020 T8 V90 but I've not actually timed it 0-60
Thanks for another interesting, fun, and relaxing videos. Cool engine. Too bad about it's apparent lack of good maintenance. I really enjoy watching all of your tear-down videos. They really amount to a type of relaxation therapy for motor-heads. Keep it up, I need the help with relaxation...and mechanical skills. Cheers.
I do 150k a year to drive from europe to Russia so i have the old 5 cillinder 2.4d (D5) and have tuned up to 300hp but love more the diesel torque!
Sadly now i broke my auxiliary belt and destroy the timing belt. Luckily i was in Belgium and could do all the repairs myself!
My wife has a 2015 xc60 r design polestar. It's has the 6 cylinder turbo. It runs great.
About 5 hours away from home at my daughter’s volleyball tournament. Was still looking forward to this notification
So cool to see my 2015 engine tear down. I change my oil every 3k +/- a couple hunnert. I wasn't aware of the oil burning issue. I'll check it more often to see what's what. Good to know. Thanks.
Yess! I'm still hopeful we'll see a whiteblock i5 on this channel someday but I'm really excited to watch this one!
...I got my 2022 XC60 from West County Volvo N Manchester... : ^ ) HATE that it doesn't have a dipstick! Overall, a good ride.
Time to break down those snack packs
Had Volvo since 1970 just three of them. Treat them well and they'll run for ever.
The last one had 333000 miles on it and wen on for another five years....
Never had the block down only thing changed was the distributer, and alternator.
It did need a new frel pump every 100000 miles....
Did 34 to the gallon when I got it was still doing that when Isold it. At the end it was using all of a mug full of oil between changes at 5000 miles.
Always amused by the engine number which had a load of zeros with. 007 at the end.
They are a bit expensive to buy and you will put a little more fuel on them but visits to the repair shop are few and far between.
Thanks for the Saturday nite video.
From Kansas
Are the snack packs in the background representative of the oil you find in some of these engines?😂😂
As a huge fan of the Volvo 100, 200, 700, 900 series and P80 (800, V,S,XC/70) platforms, I am thrilled to see you tear down ANY Volvo engine, frankly. Thanks for getting one in finally, I've been looking forward to this video for over 2 years. Growing up my Mom had a 144 & a 244, my Dad owned a P1800 (which I learned to drive manual on as a 16 yr old), a 242GLT, and two 760 turbos over the years (LOTS of RedBlocks over the years, would love to see you tear one of those down someday). I've owned an 850 turbo, a V70 T5, and now currently a 99 V70 N/A, a 98 S70 T5M, and an '86 244DL that I'm planning a V8 swap into. Love the Volvos, they have saved my life at least 3 times through their solid handling in potential accident situations, and their amazing front and side impact protections going back to the 70s. Seats so comfortable you can drive all day in and still get out feeling refreshed at your destination. In an age where most cars have the design sensibility and form that looks like it was squeezed out of the back end of a dog, I'll take a boxy Volvo any day.
I share your enthusiasm for Volvo.
Truly, a carmaker that came from logic and value and pride in engineering, more than fads or gimmicks. Rock solid, at least until the company reorganized.
@@bretfisher7286 agreed! I am sometimes surprised that a 25 yr old Volvo can still put a smile on my face when daily driving
@user-zh9zz5ru6r Yeah, they're something of a cult car-- mostly I mean the older ones-- but there's a subculture of Volvo fanatics. And for good reason.
@@bretfisher7286 my Mom's 244 was more of a 'get my high school buddies and me to the Rush concerts on the worst day of winter' kind of car, but I experienced real joy and felt lucky to cruise about in my Dad's 242, and his P1800 manual and later a euro-spec 760 turbo with a manual transmission. I would love to have a collection of just those three cars today...
@user-zh9zz5ru6r The P-1800 is such a fascinating and beautiful bit of work.
Mom had a 242 GT that I helped maintain for her.
I don't know why they termed it a GT. It was slow! But very fun.. and a beautiful car.
2 minutes after upload here. Best part of the week
Interesting tear down, thanks for sharing your videos. 👍
As iconic as their 5 and 6-cylinder powerplants are, I think Volvo made the right long term move by switching to all 4-cylinder powerplants. Sharing the same or very similar motor between all models simplifies manufacturing and reduces cost. Ideally, with just one powerplant to worry about, you'd think it'd be a decent motor as they could devote a lot of R&D budget to a single engine, rather than spreading it between 2 or 3 different engines.
Aurobay actually makes two different engines for Volvo Cars. A three cylinder and a four cylinder, similarly to how their previous architecture (the Volvo Modular Engine) had 4, 5 and 6 cylinder variants. Before that they used the Redblock, which only came as a four cylinder (They also used the PRV V6 and a VW diesel known as the D24, but those were not manufactured by Volvo).
Hasn't helped their reliability or interest in the brand, that is sales.
WTF? It's missing a whole damn cylinder!
Wow, what a nicely engineered engine. Great video too.
Now I know how they make aluminum antiseize. Thank you for another great video.
How about a video explaining all of the different bolt head types you find during a teardown. Love your running commentary!
The first few years of these engine with the low resistance rings had issues cause of the small holes in the scrapper rings. They will clog up at some point and cause oil consumption which will lead to burnt valves or something like this. normal servicing wont save it. Volvo switch to a upgraded pistons and rings that were more traditional i guess you would say. I wouldn't buy one of the first 3 years unless volvo did the upgrade or a smoking deal on the car.
Please keep it rolling with the Volvos, the v8 Volvo engine is very unique and the 5 cylinder is cool to see.
This was really interesting and informative, thank you. 👍
Finally, thanks Eric!! We as a family have had several Volvos, mostly the older gen engines in 5 or 6 cyl trim, but now have two of the 2.0L current gen, with DE and the turbo (XC40), or the turbo/super (XC90). This engine called for the ACEA A5/B5 spec oil originally, but Volvo then took it to another level with their own "RB" spec, which is HARD to find! Castrol Edge "Professional" OW20 meets it but often is only found at the Volvo dealer; I managed to find a new Liquid Moly product also meeting the requirement. This oil is also supposed to help with the DE issue. Thanks, I will watch this one many times, and feel free to do one on the older Volvo engines as well, they are bulletproof, impossible to wear out with good maintenance performed.
engine nicely built, seems that volvo engineers had mechanics in mind ,seems a very serviceable engine
I have the same engine in my P3 V60, the serial number is 0005350 so one of the very very first ones. The previous owner had the pistons updated early, probably before 50k. Engine has 202k on it and doesn't burn a drop of oil. Really good, simple, robust engine. I will probably do a basic carbon cleaning when the weather warms up. I wonder how hard it would be to make an aftermarket dipstick for it.
As always Eric, thanks for my saturday night entertainment.
Not quite The Million Mile Volvo
Never clicked on a notification so fast 😂
OH MY GOD YOU ARE LITERALLY THE BEST THANK YOU SO MUCH MY PRAYERS ARE FINALLY ANSWERED NEVER AGAIN WILL I ASK
I had a 2016 Volvo V60 T5, there was an issue with the T5 engines in 2015 and 2016, they had defective rings in them. It caused huge amounts of oil burn, in the range of around 2 quarts every 1,000 miles for mine. One of the rings eventually failed on cylinder 3, after finding out how much a replacement engine cost we ended up just scrapping the car. I miss that car, it drove so good!
Since Geely motors took Volvo over in 2014 I don't expect Volvo reliability to be the same.
Ford kept all the engineering in the sale. The only part the Chinese got was the brand name.
Geely let Volvo be independent. Ford didn't. Hence the P3 V70 being a Ford in a dress. Ghastly.
Why are there 2 boxes of snack pack puddings in the background? 🤨🤔
Because I don’t have 3
The video title says "premature failure or oblivious driver?" Then dead at just 100K miles I presume? It's a 2015 Volvo. Volvo went sideways after selling out in 1999. A 2015 Volvo engine that made 100K miles is a miracle. LOL@@I_Do_Cars
@@ohwhyevenbotheragreed
Thanks for the video Eric. I have rebuilt the block and heads on dozens of volvo 5 cyl and 6 cyl engines. I own a xc60 2015.5 with this engine. It burns oil excessively. no dip stick. I am glad this volvo tells me when its a quart low or it would have run dry. The dealer would fix it if it had under 100k but we had 112k when the recall hit. It has over 125k now. I plan on tearing into it soon. This video helped me know what to expect being a little different than the 5 cyl. Also loved your Jaguar 5.0 SC video. Done that job as well.
Try doing an oil flush before your oil changes, I have heard that can clean up the clogged rings and reduce oil burn. Some have had good luck.
My good friend just had one of these t5 in his shop and it was turbo / supercharged for a total of 324 hp.
S90 2019
As he lowered the car his jack broke and smashed that oil pan you see . Replacement one factory kit was like 700$.
Belt kit required 100 to 120 k .
'03 Forester was using 1 qt/1000 miles or less. Pulled the pistons. Rings looked very similar to what you have here. Oil feed holes behind the oil control rings were plugged full with brown carbon! Drill and a little bit to clean them out!
Haven't driven it far enough to tell if my ring job was successful. Can't see that'll hurt anything!
The timing belt never needs to be replaced because the car doesn’t last long enough for the OE to be changed!
Have a 98 V70 122k 5spd manual with the non tutbo 5 cyl .. previous 95 850 wagon hit 280k at least since i kept in touch with owner. All time favorite volvo engine
Volvo! Yes!
I was waiting for you to tear one down. 👍
those "composite cam gears" are vvt's. variable valve timing gears.
love the fact u got a volvo engine on here.. 🙂