Inside a 300,000 Mile Volvo Engine - Teardown, Disassembly, and Inspection
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- ► Ever wonder what the inside of a 300k mile engine looks like? On this special bonus episode of the 850 project, Cory and Jacob tear down the original 850 N Whiteblock engine to see exactly what age and a ton of miles do to the inside of an engine. From the cylinder head to the oil pan with piston rings, cylinder walls, rod bearings, and crankshaft in between, we find out if this engine was on its last legs, or had another 100k miles under its belt.
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Swedish high quality steel boys. I say this as a Norwegian. my 2.4t xc70 has 400k km on it. runs perfect. paired with the good M58 manual tranny its superb! No rust under the car its a 2001 and here we salt the roads havily during winter.
Appears to have the original water pump.
The biggest thing I took from this video is BMW need to talk to Volvo about good rod bearings 😂😂
They SURE do 😂
Maybe I'm lucky but my v12 e38 runs like new at 220k miles. the suspension blew apart a million times though!
Evrything today is built to get broken.......
Yeah, but maybe not. Regular non-M cars don’t need to get the rod bearings replaced, nor does the f80 m3/m4.
and water pumps, and coolant hose flanges, and thermostats, and valvetronic actuators, and crappy plastic valve covers...
...uh wait, what haven't we replaced yet? those run-flat tires?
This kind of old engine disassembly videos are always so interesting! I want more of them.
Those 850's are tanks, I have two 850's and they are great machines.
Amazing machines indeed!
@@p80t5turbo I have Tank C70 1999 B5254t, 356000 km.
That is a beautyful car.
I myself own an 1997 850 AWD with around 265000 Km. Bought it for 4500 SEK (or around 450$).
Intrestingly enough there were only 214 of these variants.
Haha i own a vw golf 2011 1,6tdi witz 580 000km... is not a tank but it runs and runs without probs ..... and it only uses 4,8l/100km
At my previous job there was someone with a volo 240 , and he had 850000 km with the original engine . The man said that he changed the oil once a year, regardless of the km he had driven. There was even a year that the car had driven 88000 km with the same oil. An oil change once a year regardless of the km was sufficient, he said, provided you use good quality oil. He did check the oil level every month , and when necessary he topped up a little .
Great video guys. So nice to hear two American professionals talk knowledgeably and respectfully about non-American cars!! Gotta give credit where it's due and Volvo do it right. Good job. 👍🇬🇧
we appreciate the love!
Most Americans talk shit about American cars. It’s why we have so many imports.
With the condition of the engine, I’d wager that it was owned by someone that did a lot of long highway commutes. They’d be getting it serviced more often, and putting the engine through less heat cycles
Nope.. its just volvo engine ;p Doesnt matter how you are using it.
My mom had a 850 automatic that she drove 250 km or 25 european miles in with just 1 liter of oil, she didn't notice anything until she arrived that the engine was smoking hot but she filled with oil and no weird sounds or problems after
I easily have 750000km on my 92 240 wagon. Head gasket replaced at 240000 km. That's it just maintenance and rebuilt the suspension with all ipd and kaplhenke. I'll rebuild eng or turn it into a sleeper.
@@killercan4394 i delivered pizza 40+hrs/wk for 2 years in one and always was out of oil. eventually got rod knock but that was after some hard mountain driving 1 yr later
Explains a lot, I put well over 300K on this same 5 cylinder and was amazed how well it still ran, although it was needing some oil added at that point. Incredible engines.
Had 850 T5 and 850 GLT wagon, really amazing cars all around, so incredibly reliable, with proper maintenance these volvos will practically last 500k. Amazing machine, really miss it.
I went to a Volvo dealer with a 2006 S60 with around 237,000 km on it and they wanted me to replace the engine for $17k. I said 'nope' and left. I took it in to begin with cause the exhaust was blowing white smoke and had a burning smell in the cabin. Found out later that the only problem was low oil in the engine. No problems since i topped up with a quart.
Hi, I got white smoke in my car (xc90 2.5t 2006), buy not regularly, sometimes and the level of oil is ok. Any advice why?
very well kept. frequent servicing in shorter intervals is the trick for a engine long life.
I have just bought a Volvo S80 MK1 with 718K miles, nearly 1.150 million kilometres, which I am going to repair and carry on driving. its on its second engine though, but it has done nearly 370k since it was fitted in the car.
Here in Sweden we call a 300k engine a low miles car :) 600k are more common when they go up for sale :)
300K is in miles which would be 555,600 KMs
@@GregHuston 480k
@@dimmacommunication 482803.2
CZcams recommended this video and having never seen your stuff I thought, "Wow, what a beautiful volvo engine for 300k miles, I can't wait to see how they restore it!"
All the way until right before the end of the video, haha.
I pulled apart my friend's 99 V70 engine apart after it burnt a valve and it was the same story as this. Could not believe that there was basically no wear on anything. Lapped in a couple new exhaust valves on that cylinder and put it back together. Runs good.
I should point out it was horribly abused and the owner didn't change the oil hardly ever... Valve burnt at 250k~
Good to know that it was abused. My 98 V70T at 244k still very happy, ( and mostly not abused!)
Considering the mileage that engine was in great condition and would probably gone on for another 100,000. The wear on the Crank Journals was probably unmeasurable from new if the shells are anything to go by and the cylinder bores still had honing marks on them. That engine could easily be rebuilt by fitting new Piston Rings and Crank bearings along with a decoke and the valves relapped and reassembled,it would probably go on to do another 300,000 miles.
This block definitely had regular appropriate maintainence for the majority of it's mileage, but that doesn't mean this isn't impressive for the 300k it's seen
It's really hard to say! The condition of this engine was pretty rough when we first got the 850, with a bad PCV system, non-Volvo spark plugs, and a cheap distributor cap and rotor. We also recall draining conventional oil out, not synthetic oil. So perhaps at some point it was maintained properly but definitely not the later half of its life.
@@fcpeuro PCV = return from the crank shaft case ? Could it be blocked because of a lot of short drives and when left to cool down ?
@@TheStefanskoglund1 the pcv(positive crackcase ventiliation) is for letting the gases that the oil generates out of the crackcase so that the oil doesnt push out engine seals basically. gets blocked mostly because of not following the oil change intervals, sludge builds up in the small pipes and openings blocking it and stopping the system from working
I've seen these at 500k km (300k miles) when they have been run on proper "synthetic" (API GL "3.5") oil and had regular change intervals and they look fantastic. Old "Volvo-gubbar" hates these compared to the ye olde redblock, because you can't fill used cooking oil on them and have them last. They do forget most stock NA Whiteblocks are as powerfull as most stock redblock turbos...
Måste älska "det va bättre med b20" gubbar 😅
Sent my 99 V70 to the scrapper with 330K, no reverse for a year prior, the son had bounced it off a few trees, but it ran good, just found an 01 V70T5 with 115K, super clean for $3000 USD. Volvo for life.
I love seeing content like this from my favorite place to shop! Those Volvo engines are clearly top notch!
I sold Volvo at my dealership for 20 years. Those 5 cylinder aluminum engines are the best of the best. They have great power and are reliable. I highly recommend one. Yes, you have a few oil leaks and if you don't keep your oil changed, you will have messes. Go Volvo!
This content of looking into the old 850 is giving me confidence with driving my old 250K mile 850 XD. Keep em' coming!
Ahh thank you this is such a treat, watching as soon as I'm home
I have a 1992 740 Volvo with almost 500K miles all original. Valve cover has never been removed. Nothing but regular oil changes. If you’re in Florida I’d gladly let you tear it down and inspect it.
So glad your back.I brought my 850R head with 330,000 miles to the machine shop. They could not believe it had that many miles. They actually rebuilt it with the same valve springs and the same intake valves. They said they were completely fine still.
That's pretty awesome! Can't say we're surprised after pulling our engine apart!
Yay! I love this series guys, I hope you keep this type of content coming :)
Glad you love it Joanna! More content on the way!
I have a Volvo t5R as my first car and it’s videos like these that help me fix up my car the right way:)
Awesome! Parts all look really good! Previous owner obviously did regular maintenance and oil changes with quality oil.
I had a '91 240 wagon and it was a beast. Couldn't kill it, and solid AF. M47 trans was the weak point and it got replaced, along with the clutch disk, pressure plate, pilot bearing and release bearing.
That was an excellent tear down, I enjoyed it a lot. My bought-new 850 T-5 is still going strong with 240,000+ miles! Thanks for sharing this video!
Same here, V70 (p80) 2.4 170 just bought - 245,000 miles engine sounds brilliant.
Thank you for the nice video! You guys talk so relaxed, it’s easy to understand for a foreigner
You should do a 300k mile diesel version teardown, and see the differences, that would be cool. I have 2002 S80 , 2.4d 96kw with 500k km on it, still runs like a champ.
definitely something to look into!
"Volvo owners, well they are what they are."
Yeah, you right 🤣
Yes we definetily are😂
@ProfTheWood at least ford wasnt wholly intentionally killing the brand
Geely on the other hand.....
@@angrydragonslayer From what I've heard is that Geely watches # let's Volvo continue as usual!
@ProfTheWood the P2 definitely wasn’t as bulletproof as the P80 but it certainly isn’t a bad car, and the engines are largely unchanged (P2R B5254T4s with cracked blocks notwithstanding). The P3s were if anything an improvement in reliability over the P2 chassis, and Geely has taken (or in actuality, allowed) the brand to go in a different direction, it they’re still great.
It would be nice if you had sent an oil sample for analysis
@Yirlani With the lack of bearing and cylinder wear I would not expect much from a sample.
@Yirlani Simple.
The wear areas don't show wear. That's the bearings, cylinder walls, oil pump, cam and lifters. No timing chain. No wear, no wear materials. The only thing we did not get a good look at was the rings, but with that mileage and a good leakdown I would not expect much Chrome from the rings.
The headgasket looked good and the oil is not showing any signs of AntiFreeze as there would be sludge and bearing wear and perhaps even wear in the oil pump so there won't be any water or antifreeze in the oil.
The cylinders looked good and no leakdown so no fuel dilution.
The only thing you would get is a read on the additive package and if you were changing often enough. And if that's 300k with the lack of sludge I'd say the basic maintenance schedule has been kept up with reasonably.
So, not much to get from a sample. The sample does look inside an engine that you don't have apart and tells you if you should be tearing it down.
Was definitely curious to see the innards of this 300K "N" considering I have a ~281K "RN". Now I'm really not too worried!
281K is just broken in!
A fair number of them were used by people running them at work - or in taxi.... 100000 km a year or more !
Nice to see that my 96 Volvo 850T5 with 155,000 miles is not even broken in yet!! Thanks to FCP, I learned so much about maintenance. FCP and Volvo. Perfect together!!
So glad you liked it!
I've got the engine out of my 1999 C43 AMG in storage. It had 297k miles on it when I pulled it and it was still running stronger than factory estimates. I've wondered if there's any interest for anyone in tearing it down for inspection (or at least a compression test). Only reason it's out of the car is I swapped in a 5.4l from a 1999 E55 AMG for the extra power/fun.
Wow!
Really helpful video! Pulling the head on my 2.4L 5-Cyl turbo whitey tomorrow, so helpful reference to see it done before hand.
Awesome timing! Glad we can help!
Huge fan of FCP Euro, I love you guys. Legendary company with legendary people. I'm glad I get to see the inside of the warehouse. You guys keep it super clean, mad respect.
We love you!
Very clean block and head. Very well sealed engine
I have a 06 S60R with 262k miles and she's still running great!
Nice looking lower end. These engines seem almost immune from wear with reasonable maintenance. This timing belt setup is so simple that you wouldn't want a timing chain anyway.
Not at all surprising. Around 2008, my dad's car got totaled and he began looking for a replacement he could pay cash for. We found a 1994 740 at an independent dealer. It showed 140,000 miles or so. We took it for a ride. The blower motor loudly spat debris in our faces, the transmission was firm but strong, and the engine loudly clattered it's way up to speed. Dad felt it may have a had a few more miles so he checked it's history. Turns out in 1998, it went in for service at the dealer and the reported mileage was around 250,000. The thing had probably rolled over. Impressive!
you guy are the best, wish you can build my 850 T-5. cant wait for season 2
Couldnt tell you how much I wish i could get these guys to rebuild my 850
Americans suprised that Volvo can build an engine.... well they have built trucks, buses, construction equipment, millitary vehicles, marine and industrial drive systems and jet engines for the past 70 years or so, so it's not a suprice! Volvo is known for high mileage and high quality engines in all applications!
Lovely video to see, mine has rolled around 290k miles(454600km), just started prepping with renovating an engine for the day this one kills itself 🤘(the one being fixed for future use has only rolled around 270000km/160k miles)
I have a s70 that has gone 270 000 miles, i put it at the dyno. Originally had 144 hp, now 142, and an increase of tourque from 206 to 210 nm
I have volvo 850 2.3 t5 480 000km still running strong, volvo make quality engines, they are most driven cars in finland with mercedes, biggest kilometers
This engine looks fantastic...
Thanks. I learned a lot. Love my Volvos!
You're very welcome, Sam! Glad you learned something, we did too!
I have never owned an 850 but I had a 1990 240 with the four cylinder red block. It had 420,000 miles when I sold it. The only reason I sold it was the winter road salt here in Massachusetts had taken a toll on the body. It was still running perfectly.
So cool to see... thanx a lot
got this baby in a 97' Renault Safrane
My mum owned a D5 engined Volvo which to my dismay only saw 15W50 tractor oil rather than the 0W30 fully synthetic specified. Her logic was that it was good enough for the tractor it was good enough for her car. It didn't get changed frequently either. Was still running fine with no oil loss at 160K miles until a tractor drive into it. Some people believe high mileage engines are 'done', but it's amazing how much life you can get out of a well serviced engine (or even a volvo that hasn't been looked after).
I have an 850 T5-R with over 325k miles on it, and she is still going strong. Volvos are the shit.
Before geely
My uncle have a Porsche 928 from 1980. He's owned it since 1982 and is the second owner to the car and he's used it as his daily commute since the early 90's when he bought a 993 as his weekend getaway car. This spring, the 928 started to smoke quite badly and was loosing quite alot of power. We took it to a local shop and tore the engine. It turned out that it had quite some wear on the rod bearings and piston rings were pretty much shot. The car had at that point ran 780.000 km(484000miles). Never had a rebuild, never had a breakdown of any kind in 40 years. That's not bad, not bad at all.
Great simple design.
Ok so now i know why my 350.000miles volvo 850 with 170hp was running so good and fast :)
My '01 ford focus zetec 2.0 dohc has 300k miles on it. never missed an oil change once, doesnt burn a drop. its still golden on the dipstick at 1,500miles in.
2003 Volvo S60; over 346,000 miles... engine still purrs, transmission shifts when it needs to. Never any major / unexpected repairs. Change oil every 7000 - 9000 miles. BEST and most dependable car I have ever owned. STILL my daily.
I’ve personally
Owned two volvos. One Volvo S60 sedan with a 6cylinder and a 2004 Xc70 cross country with a 2.5 turbo. My Xc70 did 280,000 before I sold it and never gave me an issue except for the oil seals at the end of the cams. I did. Normal maintenance but was NOT gentle on my cars. The s60 I sold with 120,000 and it was fine the whole time I owned it. They are VERY reliable engines
I'll swing down and pick up those cams if you guys want to parts with them!
Loved this video. Great job.
Glad you enjoyed it Arthur!
I´m an old SAAB mechanic and I´m not so much in to newer volvos but the old 140 series is one of the best ever
Great lens work!
Thanks, James!!
I do the work needed on a friends 95 850 Turbo that has only used 10-30 Pennzoil conventional oil. These engine like the old red blocks 4 cylinder are hard to kill just need some TLC to keep them happy.
White blocks are speced to 5w-40 synthetic oil.
These cars were very popular with British Police Forces, as they could easily cope with very high mileage.
Beautiful one , please can I get the 1998 Volvo S40 electrical wiring video
Theres an 2012 X5 35D for sale in Toronto with 236k miles on it. Still runs like new and so quite.
Judging by the inside of this engine, this car didn't get any regular engine maintenance at all. The previous owner didn't care at all. The only way this car is holding up is all because of the quality and design Volvo put into their engines.
Good clip
Very cool! I live in Sweden and own a 2006 V70 2.4 -140hp car. almost 100 000 miles by now.. Good to know she have a few more in her...
She's definitely got plenty left in her life!
In the states we call 100k low miles for anything 15 years old
my volvo 940 turbo had 57 000 km on it and it runs great, im from sweden and all I really want to say is, if you take care of your volvo engine and servic it right it gonna run for ever
We absolutely agree!
The surprising thing about this video, is their surprise at the condition of a 300,000 miles Volvo engine. I had the cams out of my V70 D5 at 200,000 and they looked like new, as did the cam caps. The same couldn't be said for the lifters, but they were a known issue on early Euro4 D5's.
I'll be putting a magnetic oil pan plug in the next oil change. Cleanliness when doing oil changes is also to be emphasized. Impressive tear down.
It can definitely give you peace of mind!
There is nothing magnetic to pick up. The bearings are copper and the block is aluminium. So a waste of money
I've always worked on my Volvos, but man seeing this being torn down made me realize how simple the white block really is.
It really is quite simple!
No individual coils and no VVT timing. It is very basic but tucked in there so tight
@@850are2 Yeah its tucked in, but this is small naturally aspirated 10 valve, you can get this engine out through front by removing grill, lights, front bumper - in about 2 hours - its easy job ;) on turbo, or awd ones its a bit harder and takes about 3 to 4 hours.
@@jaunteraudi817 Here (Sweden 20 km from the engine plant) some guys simply drops the subframe with the engine and removes the body with a frontloader.
I own a 2005 V70 with the 2.0 ltr turbo B5204T5 engine, and exhaust valve 1 on cylinder 1 burned at around 234k km / 145k miles. The fact that the crankcase ventilation was clogged probably contributed to this valve failure. I fixed it, but good grief what a massive undertaking it was. A lot of work, for sure.
An unfortunate typical failure point for Volvo's. Glad you were able to fix it, even with a little grief
Probably had a great maintenance schedule on it with conservative driving.
I have a 5.4l 2v with 305k and I maintain the crap out of it. I wonder what my internals look like.
Nice video, thanks.
The B5 series engines were always a beast! Good to know that my 200k mile box, probably still has a good engine in it. Just keep changing the oils on time and they last a really long time.
B5 just means gas engine with 5 cylinders.
@@alexstromberg7696 ok, the b5's that they put into all models from 1998 (maybe earlier) until the end of the p2 platform in 2006.
Volvo essentially peaked with this 90s generation of cars. They are built well and last. My 98 S70 T5M has 435km on it and runs and drives like new.
I’ve done the normal repairs and upkeep, but have never touched the engine internals.
The car stands out in its angular elegance, has excellent sight lines, and is a stellar winter performer with good tires. Modern bulbous SUVs and whatever else is out there these days, are simply inferior in multiple respects.
Long live turn of the century Swedish excellence!
Something about 5 cylinder engines. They don't die as quick. Audi/vw and volvo 5 cylinder engines are tough. I myself own a 1994 Urs4 with the iconic AAN 5 cylinder.
I could never get fed up of the sound of a 5 cylinder.
I hope my 2005 xc70 wagon with 2.5l turbo engine with 350,000 mls looks that good inside and maybe I can get a a half mil miles or until it blows up then Ill tear it apart and make a document video of it. That engine looks like oil changes were done on time with good quality Oil.
Great engines! Had a few in turbo and none turbo form. Reliable, powerful and quiet economical and in Turbo form terrific! Sad to see it come out of production.
I.m from sweden, this was fun to watch, If you take care of your 850, the engine can go 500 000 km easily
Such great condition. You could basically just high pressure wash the sludge out, reassemble as is, and go for 1,000,000 miles.
Amazing!
My 290k 1.8t sounded like that after maxing out the speedo for the first time. It upset. But started up and ran smooth right away after. Just did some basic tune up things and its still super reliable and runs great. But at the same time im expecting it to die any day too. I wish i could tear it apart and look inside
That's correct with the valves. Even the old B18-B20 burn the odd valve. Remember my dad's p210 duett had a valve burnt off, made a racked inside the cylinder but then it stopped and we continued driving for another 300 miles on three cylinders. Once we removed the head we saw the no 4 cylinder had a big hole in it but was still moving up and down but obviously no compression on it as one valve was missing 😂
My uncle had a Saab 900 that he drove to 400,000 miles and then sold, and the next owner drove it another 100,000 till the trans went. I’d like to have a look in that engine!
The manual trans was definitely the weak link on the first gen 900s. I had several and they tended to get noisy at 150-200k miles. But, aside from the time and effort to R&R, not expensive to rebuild if you don't let it get too bad. No real pattern of engine problems as long as you don't overheat it.
Wow unbelievable thanks for that video 93 240 guy
I recently took apart my 1.4 fsi from my scrapped mk5 golf, and all bearing on the bottom end looked amazing, but the piston skirts were is horrible condition, engine suffered a head leak before it died
I looked into a Volvo B230 engine with about 190 000 miles on it and it still also had the cross hatching pattern in the cylinders. Volvo used to make nuclear grade stuff.
Brilliant.
Awesome video. Did you guys put it back together after that?
It's still currently in pieces but nicely organized so that it can be put back together. We'll definitely keep it as a spare!
Very well done video :)
I've seen volvo 240's with over 2million miles still on the road.. Maybe 1 or 2 engine rebuilds, but still....They built cars to last!!
Hi guys.. I'm new to your channel and straight away subscribe it..Love the contents thought. Can you guys make a video regarding Volvo model above 2011 - 2013 for S60/V60/V40/S80 that using an engine Ford Ecoboost as I'm from Malaysia and in my country this are the engine model that being sold here before the e-drive engine were introduced. Would love you guys to make as it will be very helpful for me to gain some knowledge about it. Especially when it comes to repair and maintenance about the engine and transmission dct450
my 98 s70 t5 se has 526000kms runs amazing still.
Swedish quality.👍
The same for my 488.000 km S60 2.4 non-turbo.
541000kms on it now
453,000 miles on my my 850, died on the freeway from a ruptured radiator hose. Did a head gasket at around 300,000, cause is one of the head bolts had failed - maybe a previous owner tried to reuse them after a head gasket? - I didn't even pull the pistons. Just a top end cleaning and lapped a few valves.
My 2000 v70 xc turbo has a blown head gasket iv been trying too find good info on the last of the p80s it seems like I only find stuff on 99s or 850s if anyone has a good parts list for tools and parts for a good engine refresh for a 2000 v70 turbo I'd be very thrilled.
So my d5 only have 250k miles but still runs like a dream
Is there a reason to not do a leak down test on the other four cylinders? I would be curious if that might indicate a more major issue with one of the other cylinders.