MOST RUGGED Power Station in the WORLD! 10,000 Watts - Hybrid Power Solutions Review
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- Survive anything! Toughest all-weather power station on earth! 10,000 Watts, 5500 watts of solar & car alternator charging. Works in the RAIN & SNOW! Trigger warning: This is NOT a cheap power station but designed for commercial, military and heavy duty customers who need the capabilities of the Hybrid Power Solutions Batt Pack Pro 5000. This would be right at home in the back of a Cybertruck.
Hybrid Power Solutions: hybridps.ca/
Specs:
Operating Range: -4f to 11f / -20c to 45c
Power Output: 5000W
Surge Power Output: 7000W (500ms) 10000W (10ms)
Energy: 5.1kWh
Chemistry: LiFePO4 - 3500 Cycles
Voltage 120 VAC
Solar Input Power / Input Voltage: 5,500W / 125-320V DC
Grid Charging Power / Bypass Charging Power: 1,200W / 1,200W
Dimensions 65cm x 50.8cm x 30cm
Weight 63.5kg [140 lbs]
Hybrid Power Solutions sent me this power station for an honest review. No approvals, scripts or other BS was involved. Opinions of this product are my own.
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Self-Heating 🔥 10,000 Watt Solar Generator - Works in ANY WEATHER
My original review of the V1: czcams.com/video/Wzb8OQJNDnc/video.html Full specs in description. Hybrid Power Solutions (non-affiliate): hybridps.ca/ 🇨🇦 MADE IN CANADA
Power generator is awesome, but your shed is equally awesome.
It is about time someone incorporated all of those must-have features, self-heating, rugged, and powerful. Hopefully, these features become more common. and competition brings down the price a bit.
I totally agree, as people are more used to power stations now, they are using them much more outdoors and while I love the Ecoflow lineup they can't be used roughly like these designs.
So for $10,000 you get
- 500 amp hour LiFePO4 battery
- 5000w inverter
- packaged in a rolling pelican case with some fancy electronics
For about that price, you could also get a Prius. (a generator you can drive around.)
Somehow that price makes more sense on why the government would buy it
Can't wait til it's spring so we can see more lawn videos!
Me too! I have a lot of outdoor stuff planned. Its down there somewhere we just need the snow to melt.
Setting aside the price of these units…it’s about the application. I’m evaluating for what I would want/need in a portable power station that meets the needs of emergency preparedness. Your review of this rig really helps me to “calibrate” my needs and expectations. Cheers
I appreciate that. For business use these are perfect. No training for staff, no fear of people running engines where they shouldn't. These would have been perfect for an outdoor medical operation we had going for covid. These should offer a 10+ year lifespan also
Big money, but looks incredible! I can see the military using these just for the silence. Thanks for sharing
That makes me want it. Charge my e dirt bike in silence lol
@@chrislove1357😂fact
Or local governments when crisis breaks out
@@Mus-Doc lmao 🤣 damn
Thanks for the kind feedback! These are used by several military outlets for exactly that purpose. That and the ruggedness.
This is a quality review. I really do appreciate you testing in harsh conditions in ways that would crush most units. Yeah the price is high and it's hard to know exactly how long it will last put under such conditions, but it does look impressive based on your video. Will do a bit more research, but overall, quality review. Thank you for your perspective. Quite helpful!
I appreciate that, this is a fun one to work with and I loved their original version.
This would be absolutely fantastic for emergency services in situations like hurricanes floods, earthquake, etc
@maxdeane1092 BINGO! This is one of the key areas our units are designed for.
It looks strong. However i doubt the nice little rotary monitor would last long 🤔
@crankftubner7677 the displays are industrial grade and specifically built for tough environments. These are also covered under our standard warranty.
I like this channel reviews. Always dead on!
$10K for a 5K battery and inverter seems more than a little pricy.
A DIY unit with equivalent features can be made for $2500-3000 including a dolly to carry it around.
The compact size and self heating adds value.
5K solar input is nice too, but can it charge the battery in 1 hour?
Can the battery take a 1C charge? This is unbelievable.
Yes here is a breakdown of chargijng times/options: Grid/AC = 4.5 Hours Solar= 1 Hour Alternator = 7 Hours and it can take charging at: -30°C to 50°C [-22°F to 122°F]
The 10k rating is kind of a misleading marketing label. 10 ms is not long enough to start a motor. The 7000 watt rating it has us a more accurate surge rating. Sounds like a high frequency inverter.
Great video! Nice unit for certain applications. That wood shed came out great!
Thank you, I am really happy with it. Not as fancy as the walpole woodworker ones, but I paid just a little more than a home depot one and that backroom is much safer for fuel than inside the garage.
Nice power unit, but the shed is awesome!! lol... Thanks.
Great review, excellent gear. Would love to have one. Thanks again.
Incredible!!! Now we need to be able to buy them at Harbor Freight type prices
🤣 as if....
If you don't mind returning after 1st use - LOL
that meter look like a nest thermostat 😂
@smashthings4fun similar operation but a lot tougher ;)
An unloaded saw is a weak example of an inverter's surge capacity. Try a motor that's under load at startup like a water pump with a standing column of water or a motor with a flywheel attached. Locked rotor amps is the true test of an inverter's capability, not that old air compressor.
I have the old HPS Batt Pack mounted in my overlanding rig. I'm pretty happy with it. My #1 complaint is that with no screen I can't find out rate of charge/discharge or anything, so I'm glad they rectified that with the new unit. Absolutely built like a tank though.
Wow thats awesome to hear, there aren't a million of these out there so hearing the feedback is great.
Hi Gretchen, thanks for the feedback! As a small Canadian manufacturer, we have the ability to take our customers' feedback on board and make improvements and changes. We're glad to hear we're moving in the right direction.
Interesting tool, and a great overall review. But I gotta wonder how these are called a "generator"? They don't generate anything, they store power and distribute it in ingenious ways.
How is anything called a generator? Gas 'generators' just use a liquid fuel non rechargeable battery. These could be considered multi fuel since they can charge from solar, car alternator (gas or diesel fuel) or household power, which is also multi-fuel Natural gas, coal, wind, solar, hydro or a blend of all those.
@@kg4gav A gasoline generator "generates" electricity by spinning a coil of wire through some magnets. It does not store electricity, only generates it. A battery only stores energy to be delivered later. That energy is generated through another source.
@@corey6393 These are called Solar generators because they generate electricity from light, which can be used directly or to be stored in batteries. The battery is only one part of the device. Like I said, gasoline is a kind of battery, it is a way to make energy portable and able to be stored for when it is needed.
At the end of the day, energy is never generated, it is just converted from one form to another, or stored for conversion later and these word games are just used to created internet arguments.
@@kg4gav Is there a solar panel on this unit? Pretty sure it's just a battery pack with clever delivery systems for the end user of the stored energy. It can be recharged many different ways as I understand it.
I get your point about how energy is only stored and converted, but it does seem like calling this a generator is akin to calling almond milk, "milk". Or processed soybeans "burger". They just aren't, they are clearly marketing terms.
@@corey6393 the great debate! We tend to call them power packs.
And that's correct, there is no solar panel built in or included, but the unit can be recharged using solar, vehicle, grid or fuel generator.
Great power unit, but we need to see more of the shed :)
Jesus christ the price tag
the solar generator and shed are both very cool!
Great video. Out of my price range and my needs. I do like it, though.
nice device.
The case manufacture is Nanuk (pronounced like "Nanook") and they are really nice cases. They are more known up here for their pistol cases (for now thanks to PM Fancy Sox) but I also have one that I have my DJI drone and accessories in. Totally recommend their products
@Mr2greys we love Nanuk!
the nest thermostat with custom software and heater inside probably adds a lot to the cost of the unit
@bbishop7791 yes, these features do add to the cost but are considered a 'must' for our industrial customers. We try to use North American made components as much as possible, and are proud to build these in our facility in Toronto, Canada.
@@HybridPowerSolutions it's a very nice industrial power station, would recommend to anyone who lives in freezing temperatures a lot
Too expensive compared to diesel generators, which produce more, run for days on a gallon or two, and generally support 220v output also. I think it's neat, but it's a toy at this point. My diesel generators last decades, the batteries in that won't.
Haha love the use of the new garage "crane" (pardon my native french) for the helicopter like shots
That's as close as I can get to Spielberg, I don't the editors like the fancy channels
This is interesting, but a fringe use case for 99.9% of viewers. More about sheds! And networking gear. :-)
Just started the vid. Major props for the a team intro.❤
Thank you, one of my favorite shows
@SilverCymbal mine too.
Nice job god bless
Have you looked at the inergy units? They have emp resistant ones ...
I like this as it gives me an idea for a DIY battery. I am trying to think of how to put a 12v100AH battery outside wtihotu heating. I have a spare rugged case of a similar form factor I bought on sale. I just need to get a temp probe into the battery and soem sort of charge interrupt. Or maybe I'll just change out the BMS to add a heating BMS.
Impressive for sure ! Wish I had $5000+ to throw at one of these BEAUTIES !!!
The interesting thing about this is that is appears on the small side to contain a 5kw inverter and 5kwh of Lifepo batteries. I would be really interested to see a proper discharge test to see how many watt hours it can provide from 100% to 0%. It's good to see the BMS and heater controls the charge well in freezing temps as that is a critical area of safety.
Hi @MrButuz, this is a great idea for a video! We do discharge testing as part of our QC process and we ensure that every unit that leaves our facility meets our minimum performance criteria as outlined in the specs, including reserve capacity. Stay tuned, we'll pull something together soon.
It's ten thousand freaking dollars for the one shown! Thank you for acknowledging the price, but my gas generator would work in the same environment and cost me two hundred [freaking] dollars. OK, I got lucky on a black Friday sale, but still...
Unless you need the ruggedness, I still think I would go with the Ecoflow Delta Pro Ultra.
Absolutely: I love the Delta Pro Ultra czcams.com/video/2K9mlryo8lI/video.html but you are correct for extreme uses, preppers, disaster stuff, etc this one is pretty amazing
Will Prose needs to review one and tear it apart.
Great review!
Is it 240 volt compatible?
Hi @10000Looking - we have a 240V EU model available, but don't currently offer 240V North American in this size/model. We have had clients use an external auto transformer though!
Interesting video. Thanks
Have to nail that down
0:00 I got that reference
Im curious if you have ever mentioned how you got started with doing this type of video?
Great! What about extreme heat?
Impressive!
Interesting tech but yea definitely out of reach for the general consumer. Some doomsday preppers may scoop them up 🤷♂️
Thanks!
Looks like a Montek on steroids!
When you go where there is nothing but cold. Charging could be a problem though. Buy two!! LOL!!
Unless you are the DoD that might be tough, but I am hoping to have a couple of small wind turbines here later in the season. In the Northeast we have much more limited sunshine and I have wanted to see what these can do.
Crazy how it cost 10k but it looks like a dyi project
that is perfect for my antminer
THIS would be perfect for anyone with a farm, or cold grid down situations like Texas, Western NC and East Tennessee has seen lately. I could power my entire house with this thing, but wonder if it runs while charging. "Pass thru power" is what it's called I think... AND Auto turn on if the grid goes down. I'm gonna check this out! {Not that I can afford it now, but ya never know, I could get lucky}!
Hi @dragslayer7587 - we've got lots of clients using these on farms and off grid properties. One of our clients is actually using this to power the remote feed station for their cattle year round in Ontario. The units can discharge and charge at the same time, and can also be used as a UPS.
I wouldn’t buy a $5000 power pack to build a $1000 shed.
Interesting. How much solar do you need and how long does it take to charge it.
Hi @tonyru303 - on this particular unit, the maximum solar you can input is 5,500W and that would alllow you to charge in about an hour. You can put less solar but it would take longer to charge. Happy torun the numbers if you have a specific solar panel set up in mind.
@@HybridPowerSolutions No need to run the numbers. Thank you
$10,000...
I'm in MA near you. Would you recommend the shed builder?
Thats bananas. Super want.
Its cold (51°) and raining.
Only $10,000 USD🤣I'll just get a small diesel generator.
@BigEightiesNewWave **CAD ;)
Do you know where I can get an inverter that's suitable for permanent outdoor installation? I want an inverter that can be mounted to the back of my truck. It will be covered, so it doesn't need to be rain resistant, just needs to be long term moisture resistant.
@landonferguson7282 - I don't know of an out-of-the-box solution however I would recommend checking out the virbation/shock resistance on any units you are looking at. Some units are not rated for mobile use.
That looks awesome. Can it be charged via solar and other greener and off the grid solutions(like not plugged into an outlet into a house or something like that)?
Yes it can. Many people use the original version completely from solar in off grid setups. I am told customers buy these where they could sit for months (like a off site cabin, etc) and can handle bad condtions and they need total reliability. They are used on some boats too.
@John-Smith02 - this unit takes up to 5,500W of solar which is a pretty big set up. You can use a smaller set up too, may just extend the charging time. We have lots of clients using these in off grid scenarios, that's our specialty ;)
lol, this thing is $10,000!
Its $7800 as the $10k was Canadian. It won't matter anyway, buy it now with a credit card, and when its the end of the world you will have power and the bill will never arrive
@@SilverCymbal end of the world, what are you talking about?
Uhm, those peak numbers😉
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*Yeah it's a nice unit, and certainly a reprieve from paying the usual monies which will help the CCP in China, who regard us as an enemy here in North America, but it's $10,000.00 CAD ! I certainly do believe in patronizing my own country's products, but again, it's $10K Dollars CAD ! That's just not happening ! I can purchase two proven quality solar gennys which can be split phase connected together to give me 240 Volts AC @ 30 Amps with a combined output of 7,200 Watts and batteries rated at 7,200 Whrs with great expandability for under this Dollar amount. Canadian Companies need to do a better job at being more competitive.*
no 220V. the wheels are janky
How many hours can it run a 1500 watt space heater?
The video said it's about 5kWh, so 1.5 kW should run for 3 hours 20 minutes.
@consitution1789 - @snerdles is corect with that estimate. One of our clients is using these to heat a mobile homeless shelter!
I appreciate the clarification. Do either of you think a Tesla power wall is the best option, considering its energy capacity and cost? 13.5 kWh for $9,000.
Did you just use the surge capacity as the capacity of the battery? Lol
There are not "generators" any more than a gallon of gas is an engine.
Sun + this box = electricity / or your gallon of gas + an engine = electricity
@@SilverCymbal The device under review is not a generator, it's a storage battery. A gas can stores energy but it does not create the gasoline. Explain how this battery *creates* electricity that did not come from another source.
@@raygunsforronnie847 I'm just saying: amzn.to/4950ThG the term is being used
you can buy this for 9,990 dollars but we can produce a better one with that price
2.5kwh for $10,000?
The one shown is 5.1kwh and it is the only power station rated and certified for full time outdoor use in extreme temperatures.
$10k....bruh
shed
6K! LOL, NO THANKS.
too much money for regular folks.
They look like a DIY solar generator. They would sell 20x more pricing these in a sane manner. The CEO has great vision/ideas but too greedy an ego. Shame
Damn. $10k. lol
Ruggid and durable and a glass LCD screen with a fiddly rotary dial doesn't really go hand in hand
True, but the knob is only for monitoring, you only need the power button for off or on. The manufacturer might add info later but the dial isn't typical, it feels like it weighs a pound in itself.
@nils1953 - I hear you, but this isn't your standard display. It's an industrial grade display and doesn't use glass.
this is a big warning, don't plug your phone or similarly sensitive device into a generator that has heavy constriction equipment. even something like an ecoflow won't put out perfect sine waves when you're using it like that.
It's not a solar generator it's a battery that inverts or converts DC current to AC current you're being lied to it's not a solar generator they'll tell you that but you can recharge it with a solar cell big deal I can recharge the battery for my flashlight with a solar panel you're being lied to folks
I don't think you understand how the government works first of all somebody's got to be related first and it's got to be I can a thousand times my money and then none of the other stuff matters it doesn't matter if it works or if it's effective none of that matter if it cost a lot and I can make a lot of money that's that's it
That's probably true, these guys are out of Canada, so maybe its better up there.
I need buying guide