A cheap alternative to Tamiya Extra Thin

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  • čas přidán 10. 10. 2023
  • Welcome to The Scale Modelling Cafe. In this quick video, I go through how to make your own Tamiya Extra Thin cement, from exactly the same 2 ingredients at a fraction of the cost.
    The Health and Safety bit. This are highly flammable chemicals, great care should be taken when handling them. I make my extra thin outside, wearing PPE and with water and clean up stuff to hand in case of spillage and accidents.
    Safety Data sheet: Butyl Acetate: www.fishersci.com/store/msds?...
    Safety Data sheet: Acetone: www.fishersci.co.uk/store/msd...
    Safety Data sheet: Tamiya Extra Thin: www.hobbyco.net/content/files...
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Komentáře • 44

  • @christosswc
    @christosswc Před 9 měsíci +3

    Tamiya extra thin costs me 5 euros for 40ml and really lasts.
    I'm a pharmacist so I have a lot of acetone lying around at the shop, I also use it to clean my brushes and I'm sure I can get hold of any chemical I might need but cements are really cheap for how long they last.
    And while Tamiya extra thin is my go to cement, the Revell Contacta is equally good in some applications and superior in some others and quite cheaper so a combination of both should make it more affordable for people.
    I also see CZcamsrs use copious amounts of the extra thin when only a small amount is more than enough to form a strong bond.

  • @peterfield2229
    @peterfield2229 Před 9 měsíci +3

    My Hobby tool cleaner I've been using for a few years, works exactly like TET

  • @kitbag9033
    @kitbag9033 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Until their recent demise, Wilko cellulose thinners was my go-to extra thin substitute; 250 ml for less than cost of 1 bottle of TET.

    • @randytaylor1258
      @randytaylor1258 Před 9 měsíci

      A well-know CZcamsr recommends Platruct Bondene which was formulated for cementing Plastruct plastic products. I finally ran across some but I haven't had the chance to try it yet.

    • @thescalemodellingcafe
      @thescalemodellingcafe  Před 9 měsíci

      Cool

  • @randytaylor1258
    @randytaylor1258 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I use mthylethelketone (MEK) from an alcohol dispenser. It is very hot and it evaporates quickly if left open. It, too, can be purchased by the litre.
    I use lacquer thinner to clean my airbrushes -- it will clean any paint residue, no matter how old.
    I do like the workability of Tamia extra-thin so thanks for the tip.

  • @stevepritchard3970
    @stevepritchard3970 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Good to have some nail polish remover, acetone, available as it can free up superglued photoetch inadvertently glued to fingers.

    • @muskokamike127
      @muskokamike127 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I was in the plastics industry when super glue came out "yeah it's just cyanoacrylate, we've been using that for years" We bought it in gallon jugs for $20 and they were selling crazy glue for $4.00 for 15 ml lol.

    • @thescalemodellingcafe
      @thescalemodellingcafe  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Top tip, cheers Steve.

  • @oilguygamer1744
    @oilguygamer1744 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hi Jamie. I used to buy the Tamiya airbrush cleaner to use, and for about a year now I have bought the butyl and the acetone and made a mix. In Thailand here. it costs about 4 quid for 2 litres. Cheers

  • @LEESS1005
    @LEESS1005 Před 9 měsíci +1

    You got it right first time Jamie.

  • @ljscalemodels526
    @ljscalemodels526 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hi Jamie thanks for the heads up on this - I've been meaning to try this for ages, buying extra thin here in the Kingdom cost around £20 :(😒

  • @Lurchin
    @Lurchin Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hi Jamie, I've been using Tamiya airbrush cleaner recently on my last few builds, no issues. Cheers mate

  • @muskokamike127
    @muskokamike127 Před 9 měsíci +1

    great job, ppl will be shocked to know that a lot of the stuff we buy in tiny amounts for huge money are readily available in bulk under their chemical names.
    Your math is off though, if you have 1 litre of acetone and 1 litre of butyl acetate that will make 2 litres of extra thin at a 50/50 mix.

    • @muskokamike127
      @muskokamike127 Před 9 měsíci +1

      another example of this is in woodworking, you use mineral oil as a finish for wood. It is used a lot on cutting boards as it is food safe. Where I live the hardware store wanted $24 CDN for a litre of finisher's choice mineral oil. Well, know what else is 100% pure mineral oil? Baby oil. I went to the grocery store and bought a litre of unscented baby oil for $4.99 Cdn.

    • @thescalemodellingcafe
      @thescalemodellingcafe  Před 9 měsíci +1

      I realised when watching it back! 🥴

    • @muskokamike127
      @muskokamike127 Před 9 měsíci

      @@thescalemodellingcafe I thought maybe you were doing liberal math for a second haha.
      You know, when they say "elon musk has 118 billion, there's only 8 billion people on earth, he has enough money to give everyone on earth a billion dollars" lol

  • @stuwellard
    @stuwellard Před 9 měsíci +1

    Been making mine for about a year now. Even made home brew 'set' and 'sol'. Perhaps Jamie, you can do a vid on this chem mixture. 'splice up the mainbrace' buddy.

  • @vincehatina6987
    @vincehatina6987 Před dnem

    Can you use xylene in place of butyl acetate? Thank you for the vid

  • @archer159
    @archer159 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Interesting stuff -thanks for the info! BTW, was it just me or is this video very quiet?

    • @thescalemodellingcafe
      @thescalemodellingcafe  Před 9 měsíci

      Might be just you?

    • @archer159
      @archer159 Před 9 měsíci

      @@thescalemodellingcafeI Hmm, checked all my settings, and have no issues on other videos, so I thought I'd raise the issue in case others had the issue also -as nobody else seems to be reporting this, that's a puzzle! I'll get me hearing trumpet!!

  • @russelltaylor535
    @russelltaylor535 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Jamie, Butyl Acetate comes in three forms or isomers: n-Butyl Acetate, sec-Butyl Acetate, and Terry-Butyl Acetate. They have the same chemical formula but slightly different properties and uses. Do you know which version of Butyl Acetate is used in Extra Thin?

  • @ljscalemodels526
    @ljscalemodels526 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks!

    • @thescalemodellingcafe
      @thescalemodellingcafe  Před 9 měsíci

      You legend, that you so much Liam, that really is very kind of you.

    • @ljscalemodels526
      @ljscalemodels526 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@thescalemodellingcafe my pleasure - you have a great channel :)

  • @TheEdmond30
    @TheEdmond30 Před 9 měsíci +1

    ....It is made by combining toluene with a mixture of nitric acid and sulfuric acid....

  • @IanAlexanderFyfe
    @IanAlexanderFyfe Před 9 měsíci +1

    Thanks! Great idea and the savings can be put to something else...like supporting the channel!

  • @dave4728
    @dave4728 Před 9 měsíci

    I just use neat cellulos thinners. Works just as well as extra thin and 1 litre costs me 9 quid

    • @MrJ027
      @MrJ027 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I seen one guy on youtube said he used cellulose but I thought it would be way too harsh??

    • @dave4728
      @dave4728 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@MrJ027 Yeah, gotta use it sparingly, and takes just that litte bit longer to bond but once you get used to how it works its great. Maybe try it on something you dont mind messing up till you know you can trust it.

    • @thescalemodellingcafe
      @thescalemodellingcafe  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Should work but I'd prefer to use a proper glue as it dries much quicker and thus lower risk of shrinkage

    • @dave4728
      @dave4728 Před 9 měsíci

      @@thescalemodellingcafe with the quality of your work, i'm not suprised you'd spend that little bit extra on a propper glue. but us mere mortals.....well😂