Rear Disk Brakes on 14 Bolt Full Float! HOW TO!

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  • @shadowopsairman1583
    @shadowopsairman1583 Před 3 lety +2

    Like to find an aam 11.5" 14 bolt, put 6 lug hubs on it and have the dual piston brake caliper with the 13" disc to fit my 17" wheels with stock park brake.
    Drop a 373 diff in and then hoping someone makes a retrofit kit for the 8l90 and 10L90 to work on GMT800 platform

  • @ronbonick4265
    @ronbonick4265 Před 4 lety +1

    Brotha man - how much / how to adjust / tighten the rear bearings??

  • @DarkLinkAD
    @DarkLinkAD Před 5 lety

    You seem well versed on the subject.
    Why arent people buying old semis and swapping the axles off of them?

  • @joshwilson6305
    @joshwilson6305 Před 7 lety +3

    that looks good... I'm about to do this!!

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 7 lety

      Awesome! Have fun with it and thank you for watching and commenting! God bless!

  • @maciasrick454
    @maciasrick454 Před 4 lety

    Was this for stud mounted drums?

  • @PowermasterJameson
    @PowermasterJameson Před 6 lety +1

    Great videos. When you go from drum to rotors, does it change the width of the axle from wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface? Please say yes, haha!

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 6 lety

      Great question and thank you for watching! My answer is no it won’t change the width. Hopefully you can make it work, God bless!

  • @peterhatch1583
    @peterhatch1583 Před rokem

    What year cadillac El Dorado caliber to use please

  • @loganshotrod4x464
    @loganshotrod4x464 Před 5 lety +2

    I yanked a Dana Super 70 out of a 2003 3500 van & regeared from 3.73 to 4.10 to match my Dana 60 front. I wish I’d have sourced a 4.10 14 bolt from a 2004 or newer 3500 truck to save some time & money...

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 5 lety

      You have a solid rear end with the super 70 for sure, but u agree you'd have been money ahead to find a 14 bolt. Thank you for watching and commenting! God bless!

  • @Poweraddicts
    @Poweraddicts Před 5 lety +1

    Great information! Thanks! You mentioned Cadillac Calipers for E-Brake. Any particular year? I've got a 14 bolt that eventually I will be building. The disc brake conversion is definitely on the to-do list for it. Since my rig will be a rail/street rig. I would like to have the option of e-brake. Again, great informative video!

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 5 lety

      Thank you, I am so glad you like the video! I do not have a specific year of Caddi caliper off of the top of my head. Whichever ones used the mechanical disc E brake - I believe mid 80's. Have a blast with that rig! God bless!

    • @Jacksterific
      @Jacksterific Před 5 lety +1

      76-77 Eldorado rear calipers w/parking brake per ruffstuffspecialties.com. You can buy them new from ruff stuff complete with pads and no core charge for $280 per pair. Shipping will run $20 or so. If you buy the calipers from an auto parts store make sure they match the pictures on the ruff stuff site. There are several different calipers and only one matches. Or find the caddy at a salvage yard and rebuild the calipers.

  • @mr.hankie
    @mr.hankie Před 7 lety

    your video was very informative thank you so much

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 7 lety

      Awesome, glad you likeI thank you for watching and commenting! God Bless!

    • @sgtbigtoe7640
      @sgtbigtoe7640 Před 4 lety

      About a 1/4" on each side cuz the rotors are thicker than the drums

  • @jameswinchel1833
    @jameswinchel1833 Před 8 lety +1

    just picked a 14 bolt up Saturday and was wondering if i would have to change master cylinder was talking to other people about it and they said tht u would have to let me know pls

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety +1

      I've heard of some who swapped master cylinders, some who added a proportioning valve, and some who have done nothing. My truck isn't finished so I'm not sure yet how I will proceed. My preference would be adding a proportioning valve but we'll have to wait. Thank you for watching! God bless!

  • @delonthompson2527
    @delonthompson2527 Před 6 lety +1

    Love all your videos....I have a question. Are your calipers the JB6/JD6 2-15/16 inch piston.....or the JB7/JD7 3-5/32 inch piston.....about to purchase these items in the next few days. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 6 lety

      Great question and to be honest I’m not sure. I simply ordered complete front brake calipers for a mid 70’s Chevy 3/4 ton truck. Hope that helps, God bless!

    • @delonthompson2527
      @delonthompson2527 Před 6 lety +1

      GebBuilt thanks for the reply.....im going to go with the jb6 non nd calipers

    • @loganator78r
      @loganator78r Před 2 lety

      I know this is a 4 year old comment but what did u end up going with?

  • @fritzpetre9112
    @fritzpetre9112 Před 9 lety +2

    Hey bud you mind posting a video on proportioning valve if you used one?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 9 lety

      I am not going to use a proportioning valve to start. If I decide to use one, I'll post a vid. I've heard several people say it is not necessary, but I'll find out for sure when the truck is done!

  • @scottchrisman5009
    @scottchrisman5009 Před 9 lety +1

    Hey man awesome videos btw.. but do you know if all the 14 bolt ff center sections (pumpkins) insides are the same? I've got a 01 14 bolt with 4:10 and I'm wanting to swap them in my rear differential out of my 93 with 3:73. Cause I went with a solid axle swap and got a 4:10 front diff.. if you can help That would be awesome and also will a Detroit locker for a 14 bolt ff work in any of them? I had it in my 82 gmc 14 bolt and was fine just wanting to make sure my 93 wou be the same. Thanks man

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 9 lety

      Thanks! I won't even pretend to be a compatibility expert. I think you might run into some issues in swapping those carriers. To be certain I know Pirate 4X4 is an awesome resource for those kinds of questions. Look em up on the web, that's what I'd do!

    • @bobbysheafferjr.7795
      @bobbysheafferjr.7795 Před 5 lety

      I put a chevy 1975 14 bolt carrier in a 2001 GMC 2500 hd housing after cracking the carrier in it. The older carriers are much thicker and stronger .

  • @thehappybuilder7034
    @thehappybuilder7034 Před 7 lety +1

    do you have anymore info on the " hill lock" ebrake substitute your doing? i want to get rid of my ebrake setup and hadnt ever heard of a hill locking system.

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 7 lety

      I'd have to look it up again for info. Thank you, God bless!

  • @KmanJeeper
    @KmanJeeper Před 9 lety +1

    I have a 14 bolt I'd like to do this to before I put it in my '61 Willys PU. Did you change the proportioning valve or master cylinder?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 9 lety

      Nope, and the truck is still only about 1/3 done, so I haven't driven it to see how it brakes. I haven't heard of anyone changing a master cylinder for this swap, and only a few that have swapped in an adjustable proportioning valve. I will see how mine acts and decide from there.

  • @400ex4ever
    @400ex4ever Před 8 lety +2

    GebBuilt...Did you reuse the wheel studs from the drum or go with another length. I have read peaople are using a Dorman 610-194 or 610-189?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      I ended up using Dorman 610.194 which are 3 1/4"long. Thanks for watching and commenting! God Bless!

    • @400ex4ever
      @400ex4ever Před 8 lety

      Thank you

  • @stennycustom
    @stennycustom Před 8 lety +1

    i have a 92 chevy k1500 with a 14 bolt rear and 6 lug i want to do a disc brake rear conversion on but can't find a kit i also need to have a e brake since it is going to be a stick shift and its going to have a cummins, and nv4500 4x4 etc so i need a good e brake.

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      +Joe Stenny I believe your best bet for an E brake will be a disk setup on your transfer case output. I intend to do mine that way when time and money allow. As far as your rear disks, I'd suggest scouring Ebay and if you don't find a direct fit, contact the sellers to see if they can help. Cut Throat 4x4 is one of them I would trust to know how to fit your application. if nothing else, the caliper brackets are a pretty simple fabrication for a well equipped shop to build. Thanks for watching BTW!!

    • @breelynn2689
      @breelynn2689 Před 8 lety +1

      +GebBuilt 76 through 78 eldarado calipers bolt up to these setups and have the ebrake option if you guys are interested in going that way. thats the way ive chosen on my 77 crew cab

  • @maxxpatrolrc2901
    @maxxpatrolrc2901 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey brother, did you ever finish your truck? if so what did you end up doing about the master cylinder and valve?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 3 lety

      Hi, I never did finish this one. I needed to prioritize my family so it had to go! Sorry I don’t have a better answer about the master and valve for you. God bless!

  • @merdoggalex6858
    @merdoggalex6858 Před 7 lety +1

    What ate your thoughts on replacing front drum brakes on a 70 chevy with a 79 rotor assembly. I'd just have to swap spindles right?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 7 lety

      Thank you for your question! Are we talking two wheel drive or four wheel drive?

    • @merdoggalex6858
      @merdoggalex6858 Před 7 lety

      GebBuilt It's a 70 c20 2wd

  • @ShainAndrews
    @ShainAndrews Před 5 lety +2

    I"d say going without the service brake was a good decision. I tried a set and it was an absolute crap shoot if they will hold. On a hill, or have a trailer... zero chance. I ended up selling the whole conversion. Braking is not any better than a properly set up drum.

  • @mattwoody1089
    @mattwoody1089 Před 3 lety

    Hi why did you not buy a kitt

  • @JacobSchni
    @JacobSchni Před 8 lety +1

    I got everything installed, axles under the truck. just bleeding brakes. how long did it take you. tryed 2 person "old school" bleeding, then vacuum, now im trying gravity. nothing seems to be getting any fluid out. Might be a big inpatient, but i cant wait to drive with 4.10s compared to the 2.73s currently turning my 35s. by the way thanks for the help so far

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      It will definitely take a while. I've been partial to a vacuum bleeder but still requires all the patience I can muster.

    • @JacobSchni
      @JacobSchni Před 8 lety +1

      I was at my dads friends yesterday. He's a mechanic. Said that it's the proportioning valve. Cut off flow to rear.

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      +Jacob Schneider yes I'd bleed to it first then move forward.

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      +Jacob Schneider Also, let me know once you get on the road if the front to rear proportioning seems ok. Mine's not on the road yet and I'm curious if I'll need to install adjustable proportioning or not. I've heard people that have eliminated the proportioning valve, ones who have replaced with adjustable proportioning, and others who say it is fine as is.

    • @JacobSchni
      @JacobSchni Před 8 lety +1

      +GebBuilt just drove it. had to crack line from master cylinder to proportion valve (top of vave) and press brakes. freed up valve. drove fine, after pumping brakes to get brake light to go away, brakes lost a bit of stiffness, but still good. on road they stopped me WAY faster. seemed to work great

  • @gilbertgonzalez2167
    @gilbertgonzalez2167 Před 8 lety +1

    Did you have to change your proportioning valve?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      Good question, I have heard different opinions from different truck owners- I have not changed mine and wasn't going to until I checked out how it behaves. Thank you for watching and God bless!!

  • @Ken19700
    @Ken19700 Před 8 lety +1

    Also, did you put a locker in it?

  • @jut830
    @jut830 Před 6 lety +1

    I've got an '83 C30 dually and would love to do the same. Will this work?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 6 lety

      I would have to go back and research applications - my advise would be to Google "C30 dually rear disks" and see what comes up. Great question, God bless!

    • @LamzLamz714
      @LamzLamz714 Před 5 lety

      Justin Smith i have the exact same truck did u get those brakes swapped? If so what did u use and do??

  • @jameswinchel1833
    @jameswinchel1833 Před 8 lety

    Also my axle is a dually but would adding the disc brake kit would it make it a srw

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      +James Winchel I would have to research to make sure you get the right parts for the dually axle-

    • @jameswinchel1833
      @jameswinchel1833 Před 8 lety +1

      +GebBuilt probably going to get srw hubs

  • @alexanderabrigo1733
    @alexanderabrigo1733 Před 8 lety +1

    what kind of front end you got

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      Dana 44 big hub. Haven't decided on what locker I want yet

  • @stennycustom
    @stennycustom Před 8 lety +1

    how do i tell if i have a full floater or regular 14 bolt 6 lug rearend?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      I'd guess your 6 lug is a semi floater, but to be sure- on a semi floater your lug studs will stick out farther than the end of the axle. A full floater will have outboard bearings and the end of the axle will protrude out past your lug studs. Sorry that's my best explanation at the moment without pics.

    • @yerwrng
      @yerwrng Před 7 lety +1

      Joe Stenny Well glad you asked... If there is seal of approval stamped on the BOM on the axle tube by Chuck Norris it's full float if there is a 6 color rainbow on the axle flange it's the gm 9.5 .

    • @stennycustom
      @stennycustom Před 7 lety +1

      Its a semi floater

  • @V1NCH1INZ0
    @V1NCH1INZ0 Před 8 lety +3

    holy blocks

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety +1

      +V1NCH1INZ0 Haha yeah those are the 4 inchers that were on the truck when I got it. I'm looking for a set of 6" springs to match the front. Thank you for watching and God bless!!

    • @derekstewart8175
      @derekstewart8175 Před 6 lety

      Any plans of shaving that 14?

  • @RavensEyeOffroad
    @RavensEyeOffroad Před 9 lety +1

    looks nice, I found a pinion emergency brake online less that 300$ i can find the link if you are interested. I think it was bolt on too.

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 9 lety

      solaceofwinter Sweet, I'll probably build my own when the time comes, but I would like to see that set up.

    • @RavensEyeOffroad
      @RavensEyeOffroad Před 9 lety +1

      Sorry buddy forgot all about getting you the link. Here ya go! www.tsmmfg.com/np205.html

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 9 lety

      That's a sweet ebrake setup!

    • @RavensEyeOffroad
      @RavensEyeOffroad Před 9 lety +1

      seemed affordable too. :D

  • @JacobSchni
    @JacobSchni Před 8 lety

    also how did you set the spindle nuts and washers?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      +Jacob Schneider, sorry I'm not sure I understand the question.

    • @JacobSchni
      @JacobSchni Před 8 lety

      Sorry, I mean when you re assembled your axle you had to put the spindle nuts back to keep the hubs on. How far or how tight did you set the 2 spindle nuts?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      +Jacob Schneider This is how I've always successfully done it: Slide the thrust washer on then run the first nut against it while spinning the hub by hand. tighten the nut until a good bit of resistance is felt while spinning the hub. Then back that nut off slightly and you should feel the spinning resistance go away as you back it up. the nut will end up being barely tighter than finger tight. Install the locking ring and tighten the 2nd nut against it- this one should be tight since it jams the first nut. watch the first nut carefully so it doesn't move as you tighten the jam nut- I've seen it happen occasionally. then bend a tab into one of the notches of the 2nd nut. Done, God bless!

  • @stennycustom
    @stennycustom Před 8 lety +1

    what would you need pics of? i can try to take pics or a video

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      Just a shot of the wheel hub would suffice.

    • @stennycustom
      @stennycustom Před 8 lety

      [URL=s249.photobucket.com/user/joestenny/media/20151124_172647.jpg.html][IMG]i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg237/joestenny/20151124_172647.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

    • @stennycustom
      @stennycustom Před 8 lety

    • @stennycustom
      @stennycustom Před 8 lety +1

    • @stennycustom
      @stennycustom Před 8 lety

      i can't figure out how to send a pic to show you

  • @chrishurley9128
    @chrishurley9128 Před 6 lety

    Is that a newer style 14 bolt ?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 6 lety

      Hi Chris, it is a late 70's 14 bolt. Thank you for watching and commenting, God bless!

    • @chrishurley9128
      @chrishurley9128 Před 6 lety +1

      GebBuilt. I jus purchased a newer style 14 bff and I was wondering if you knew wether or not the part numbers you used would still be compatible with mine ? (rotors,calipers,and studs) Thanks pal !!!

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 6 lety

      I’ve never dealt with a newer 14 bolt so I’m afraid I can’t answer that.

  • @jameswinchel1833
    @jameswinchel1833 Před 8 lety

    What are the part numbers on the rotors and calipers please

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      +James Winchel I got the calipers and rotors from Autozone. I just said I needed them for the front of a 1979 Chevy 3/4 ton pickup.

    • @jameswinchel1833
      @jameswinchel1833 Před 8 lety

      +GebBuilt thanks

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety +1

      Yep!

    • @jameswinchel1833
      @jameswinchel1833 Před 8 lety

      +GebBuilt would I use 4x4 or 2wd rotors and calipers

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety +1

      4x4

  • @colonelcatastrophe4821

    You were supposed to put silicone on those axle bolts!

  • @Ken19700
    @Ken19700 Před 8 lety +1

    Don't you need a mechanical e-brake to be street legal?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety +1

      I live in central Iowa. I'm good.

  • @brianhaw9398
    @brianhaw9398 Před 3 lety +1

    If the bolt or the ratchet snaps it was too tight.

  • @GreenMachineLJ
    @GreenMachineLJ Před 8 lety

    you have a semi float...not full float

    • @spencerfrisella48
      @spencerfrisella48 Před 8 lety

      What depicts it from a full float or semi float lookin to get one to swap in my wj

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      +Spencer Frisella easiest way is to see the outboard spindle housing.

    • @spencerfrisella48
      @spencerfrisella48 Před 8 lety

      +GebBuilt just watched a vid of how to tell my other question is witch is better 10.5 or 11.5 ring gear ?

    • @GebBuilt
      @GebBuilt  Před 8 lety

      I'm sure most would say the bigger one is better, but they both use the same diameter axle shafts, so in my opinion it doesn't matter.

    • @spencerfrisella48
      @spencerfrisella48 Před 8 lety +1

      +GebBuilt ok thanks would the ring gear be strong if it's bigger more beef on it