Celia “Sally” Gonzales, grandmother of Uvlade Shooter, fighting stigma of relation to shooter
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- As the grandmother of the Uvalde school shooter recovers in the hospital from a gunshot wound to the face, her family continues to fight the stigma they say has led to a muted showing of support over the past month.
From comments on social media to the comparatively low amount of money raised on her GoFundMe page, they feel a cloud hangs over Celia “Sally” Gonzales, 66, due to the fact the shooter was her grandson.
"We don't want to be known as the family of a shooter," says Gonzales's granddaughter Shelby Salazar. "We are the family of a victim. Of a survivor. She survived."
Gonzales was inside her Uvalde home the morning of May 24 when her grandson Salvador Ramos, 18, shot her in the face and stole her truck. While Gonzales clung to life, Ramos drove to nearby Robb Elementary School and carried out the deadliest school shooting in Texas history.
"She was the first victim, left for dead in her home in a pool of her own blood," Salazar says. "She could not get up. She struggled to get to that door and managed by the grace of God to walk across the street and let the neighbors know what happened."
Emergency crews flew Gonzales to University Hospital, where she has been recovering ever since. "He shot her in the face, so all of this was blown," Salazar says, pointing to her lower jaw on the side of her face. "He severed the main artery that pumps blood from her heart to her brain."
Her injuries were so severe that there was no guarantee she'd make it past the first few days. "The doctors stated they didn't even know how she was alive," her granddaughter says. "She was a miracle."
Last week marked Gonzales's ninth surgery. With several more procedures still to go, her mouth is wired shut. She can't talk. She can't eat. But she is alert. "She's able to understand everybody, she's able to write and tell you what she wants to tell you."
And yet, Salazar can sense there's a stigma preventing parts of the public from viewing her grandmother the same way they do the other victims of the Uvalde shooter.
Plus, Former special agent reacts to latest details of Uvalde shooting, and What school districts are looking into to enhance security
00:00 Celia “Sally” Gonzales, grandmother of Uvlade Shooter, fighting stigma of relation to shooter
02:25 Former special agent reacts to latest details of Uvalde shooting
04:29 What school districts are looking into to enhance security
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It makes me angry to know that so many people are blaming this grandmother. She is a victim too. She is not responsible for her 18-year-old grandson‘s behavior. My thoughts and prayers are with her.
Lets not blame the family for this monster, he created himself, he turned himself into a monster
@@ericpabon2458 the mother was making excuses for her son, saying he had his reasons and to “forgive” them. If she had actually been a parent, and put her kid in place or at the very least reported something problematic. We wouldn’t be here
she is resposible like it or not
@@aquamarine2416 The grandmother is not responsible for what her grandson did .
I don't think anyone could control him. He needed to be put in a mental hospital in a secured room to where he couldn't get out and hurt others .
@@aquamarine2416 that is sheer cruel ignorance! ... how is the grandmother responsible?!
This poor Grandmom IS A VICTIM TOO!!!! People need to stop blaming her! It is NOT her fault!!! I pray she heals and heals quickly body, mind and soul ❤️
They shared a joint account and she never ever asked about the ammunition being bought and the guns being bought. This monster had been planning this since last November, sorry the Grandmother knew and did nothing about it.
@@lylarose2696 I agree. She just turned a blind eye. She needs to get help from her grandson mother. No sympathy here. What the state will have however a gargantuan medical unpaid bill. With all these surgeries it's going to get expensive. And more than likely, unpaid. Tax payers will foot her medical bill. However, her and her family are wondering why people aren't sending her money via the her go fund me account. Really. Instead of apologizing to this families that lost their babies. They're wondering why no donations. Horrible!
My heart hurts for her.
@@cherrydriver1986 she had a joint bank account with the shooter and she didn’t know what was going on? We need a lot more information.
@@Ilikerainydayz his mother was a drug addict and daddy didn’t care about him, now having said that there’s thousands of kids in horrible home life situations that never harm a soul.
LEAVE THE GRANDMA ALONE she deserves all the support my heart aches for her
So sorry to hear about Sally's struggles. She is a strong woman and so are you for putting her real story out. 💛
The family is to BLAME. The family raised him. The family had a responsibility to society: They didn’t search his room, they didn’t make him go to school (for his last year to make sure he graduates and can make a living) or call authorities to make him go to school. They let him be weird, play video games all day, be reclusive, live at their home while not going to school. Got him a cell phone and cell service, Wi-Fi, etc. The Family has a responsibility to society to bring up and raise a decent human being; If NOT them (family) than who? His mother should have aborted him. He was evil, he shot his grandmother 👵🏼 in the face and is responsible for the brutal killings of innocent young children. This killer is their blood 🩸: This is their Crotch Dropping. He is evil; The family needs to take responsibility for what they raised. They created him. They brought him into this world and raised him. I would place civil law suits against the family: take away their cars, homes, anything they have. They should have done a better job with their ‘crotch dropping’. They OWE society for the crotch dropping they created. They raised him, they created him, this is what they PUT OUT to society. ALL MASS SHOOTERS NEED to KNOW that their Family will PAY the Price for their WRONG doings. FAMILIES: Take responsibility for the Evil Being you created and raised !!!!!!!! DON’T play the victim. 22 people are DEAD 💀 because of your EViL CREATiON.
LoL
The grandparents took him in when they didn’t have to because that’s the kind of people they are. The only people to blame is the shooter and The cowards that were standing outside. God bless your grandma I hope she gets better and please don’t tell her the horrible things that were said about her she’s going through enough trauma already.
Yes please dont tell her.
They also bought him all those gun parts……
So not exactly victims
@@Ssenivac ummm..... NO. Where did You hear about This?? Everyone has made it Very clear that he bought those weapons on his 18th Birthday and Hid Them where no one would know.
@@Ssenivac Didn’t he purchase the gun on his own?
Why weren’t any of the counselors at the high school before he dropped out make contact with his guardians I’m sure there must have been warning signs again don’t know if it’s true or falsehood supposedly he scratched his face severely when a classmate asked what happened he said he did it to himself because he liked it…that should’ve been reason enough this day in age for the counselors making a call home say he’s suspended till he comes back with a letter from therapist he is safe to return to class I’m sure Texas has a program to provide education for home bound students and if there had been an intervention when that happened then maybe just maybe the grandmother would be home right now holding hands with her husband and those kids would’ve been celebrating school being over…moving on up to intermediate school birthday day parties swimming complaining about WHY do they have to empty a dishwasher and uggh MOTHER none of my friends have to do chores and all those snarky tween comments. Hindsight is 20/20 all we CAN and MUST do is be vigilant not vigilante pay attention to our kids our kids friends Uvalde is a small community like ours we may not know every child in our kids school in our inner friend circle but you know them well enough to know a behavior has changed or something’s not right and kindly approach the family bring some homemade cookies and in a very kind and gentle way check in with the family and say please if you see a change in my kids PLEASE come to us. It truly takes a community to raise children these days. I’m truly sorry the school did not raise a red flag on the shooter’s behavior I’m truly sorry if the report is true that grandmother was getting to the bottom of extra charges and trying to guide the shooter to be a responsible contributor to his community and that has not only causes physical pain tbe mental anguish and the punishment the shooter handed out to his family. He is gone and they are the ones having to face friends and families my heart is absolutely broken for the families and as a nation we NEED to wrap arounds everyone and do everything we can to make sure those innocent victims including the children in the othee classrooms listening to unbelievable horror and wondering are they next…sending all our LOVE
people who blame this innocent grandma are just as sick as the shooter
Totally agree.
100%
Facts
Just like any other parent of a shooter/murderer etc they will always blame them, and yes even the shooter grandmother
The COPS were the worse! 😡
Sadly, kids grow up and become so different than they were raised sometimes. This beautiful Grandma does not deserve one ounce of hate. Sending much love her way
They do I can definitely tell you they do.
It is true, she is a victim. It was strange to me that there was no updates on her condition in the media. Glad she survived.
Totally…
They said she died and that was what we’re supposed to believe was the end of it
My heart goes out to grndma,grandma, she should not be blamed for what her grandson did.She is lucky to be alive I know she never would have never wanted this to happen. I will pray for you an wish you a full recovery.Please don't take any of blame you had no control over what happened.You need all your strength to recover.God Bless you always,get well soon.Much love to you.
If she didn't want anyone hurt why did she not seek mental health for him? Why did she allow him to purchase the bullets, stocks and weapons on their joint bank account? They said no to buying a gun but said NOTHING to anyone that would have prevented this massacre from happening.
Lets not blame the family for this monster, he created himself, he turned himself into a monster
@@ericpabon2458 all wrong. Family creates raises and hides these monsters. Otherwise why not stop from purchasing AR 15? Bullets, stocks? Dressing like that not living with parents? Why? No mental health referral why?
@@natashajensen3520 you're putting a lot of blame on a women who took him in...there is way too much blame in this tragedy...think about it. Does it make any sense to believe all the people involved, from the shooters family to the police, are guilty of cowardness and indifference? The media has made this tragedy a shit show. They only show what parts push their agenda. Their coverage of this tragedy is the most obvious evidence that they have become propaganda pushers than any I've seen.
@@ericpabon2458 Yeah he gave birth to himself and raised himself too right? Wait no that was his grandmother and his mother. Time to call shit parents out for their responsibilities.
Praying she gets well and heals from all this soon. Don’t let the mean comments overshadow the prayers coming.
Catholics occult members know about abused children in the church and refuse to close the church doors.
They aren't real Christians.
Zephania 3:1-4
Lets not blame the family for this monster, he created himself, he turned himself into a monster
@@ericpabon2458 Salvador didn't create monster out of self since his childhood. His family did EXACTLY!!!! he was spoiled brat of grandma. Grandfather strange too the way he talked to reporter. Grands keeping lots of SECRETS about this family relationship and serious problems of Salvador! I feeling pity to this grandmother for her phisical condition now. But that's a lot of her fault to raise this spoil 👹. And you girl didn't report AT THE RIGHT TIME about this monster's attitude too. Don't speak out of your family gilt now! Too late...
Grands took him out of gilt what kind of Salvador parent they raised. And raised ANORHER 👹
I pray the Grandmother didn't deserve to be shot in the face. I am praying for you. Sally, I hope you get better.
She is not only a victim but a hero. She managed to get to a neighbor to bring awareness and try to shut the situatuon down. If anyone should be outcasted and blamed for their behavior it is the commanding officer for not sending his officers in sooner. We pray for Sally.
As a teacher, when it’s the grandparent taking care of the children, it’s almost always a struggle. The parents are usually gone or out of the picture for bad reasons. Too many Grandparents who should be enjoying retirement are taking care of grandchildren alone. I feel sorry for the grandma. The mom is to blame simply based on her response.
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE
The family is to BLAME. The family raised him. The family had a responsibility to society: They didn’t search his room, they didn’t make him go to school (for his last year to make sure he graduates and can make a living) or call authorities to make him go to school. They let him be weird, play video games all day, be reclusive, live at their home while not going to school. Got him a cell phone and cell service, Wi-Fi, etc. The Family has a responsibility to society to bring up and raise a decent human being; If NOT them (family) than who? His mother should have aborted him. He was evil, he shot his grandmother 👵🏼 in the face and is responsible for the brutal killings of innocent young children. This killer is their blood 🩸: This is their Crotch Dropping. He is evil; The family needs to take responsibility for what they raised. They created him. They brought him into this world and raised him. I would place civil law suits against the family: take away their cars, homes, anything they have. They should have done a better job with their ‘crotch dropping’. They OWE society for the crotch dropping they created. They raised him, they created him, this is what they PUT OUT to society. ALL MASS SHOOTERS NEED to KNOW that their Family will PAY the Price for their WRONG doings. FAMILIES: Take responsibility for the Evil Being you created and raised !!!!!!!! DON’T play the victim. 22 people are DEAD 💀 because of your EViL CREATiON.
Prayers for the grandmother 🙏
That wasn't his sister??
So apt…. For her to say he had his reasons… she should be the one facing all this…not the poor grandmother
people forget she was his first victim :/
WHO GAF, she raised him to be that way, obviously did not care enough to get him help. boys will be boys...she is a POS for NOT teaching him how to be a decent human or having him committed. Celia is just as guilty for KNOWING what a beast she had in her house, that she set free.
@@PosiFwd She literally was shot. She thankfully survived. She is not to blame for the shooting. Her grandson is.
Hola😘
@@PosiFwd agree with you. She has what she deserve the shooter and him family for me is the same shit
@@PosiFwd She did not raise him. he moved in with her when he was i think 16. His mom who does drugs kicked him out.
Oh poor grandma, this is not your fault. God bless you honey.
Catholicism is a curse. Repent before something worse happens John 5:14.
@@freshstart4423 bro what-
@@freshstart4423 wtf
@Amber Jesus has always used natural disasters and calamity to warn people to repent and bring judgement on the wicked.
Revelation 21:8 describes the two deaths depending on how you live your life.
He put before you the blessing and the curse for you to choose.
Deuteronomy 28
@@TheBeastFromTheEast-ol3zg The shooters grandmother is a catholic occult member, journalists took videos of her home displaying a Mary Alter.
Necromancy and idolatry is strictly prohibited in the Bible.
Deuteronomy 18:9, Exodus 20:4
Wow, how can people be so cruel? Her grandson tried to kill her!! It's not her fault.
The family is to BLAME. The family raised him. The family had a responsibility to society: They didn’t search his room, they didn’t make him go to school (for his last year to make sure he graduates and can make a living) or call authorities to make him go to school. They let him be weird, play video games all day, be reclusive, live at their home while not going to school. Got him a cell phone and cell service, Wi-Fi, etc. The Family has a responsibility to society to bring up and raise a decent human being; If NOT them (family) than who? His mother should have aborted him. He was evil, he shot his grandmother 👵🏼 in the face and is responsible for the brutal killings of innocent young children. This killer is their blood 🩸: This is their Crotch Dropping. He is evil; The family needs to take responsibility for what they raised. They created him. They brought him into this world and raised him. I would place civil law suits against the family: take away their cars, homes, anything they have. They should have done a better job with their ‘crotch dropping’. They OWE society for the crotch dropping they created. They raised him, they created him, this is what they PUT OUT to society. ALL MASS SHOOTERS NEED to KNOW that their Family will PAY the Price for their WRONG doings. FAMILIES: Take responsibility for the Evil Being you created and raised !!!!!!!! DON’T play the victim. 22 people are DEAD 💀 because of your EViL CREATiON.
Prayers to the grandmother! I was raised by my grandmother and my heart goes out to her. Prayers for a complete recovery!
People are so desperate to hate any and everyone that they're now hating innocent victims. Sad times the world is in.
Very Sad
Facts
She is the victim in every way.
This poor woman is absolutely a “victim!” I’m so happy to know she survived! My prayers most definitely will be with your Grandmother & your family! Tragic all the way around-she is no different than the others, absolutely awful💔prayers for a speedy recovery and her infection will be resolved quickly🙏🏻
My prayers goes out to this grandma. My precious grandmother just passed away at 98, this young man tried to take his grandmother life. It is not her fault, she was the first victim of his hate. I pray that she makes a full recovery and gets the financial help that she needs!
No victim. Age doesn't make someone more valuable. A shit mother, a shit wife and a shit grandma. Sorry she feels she is a victim....no victim here
My last living grandma died at 80 in February 2018, the man responsible for this intentionally wanted a first victim and unfortunately it was his grandmother. It breaks my heart that people think it's her fault and it's not she is a victim.
But what about all the officers they was in the school and didn't do nothing about it. Are they getting the same treatment as her.
Yes
Hundreds of children were saved.
Exactly
@@freshstart4423 hundreds were saved because the shooter focused on the class he was in.
They are actually didnt you see them get lambasted all over the media?
People shouldn’t do horrible things towards this woman. She is not the blame for what happened.
Sending healing vibes to Grandma Sally.
The only people to blame are the shooter, and the officers who made the decision to stand down.
The COPS did NOT serve and protect! 😡
@@tutsybassista You are right! The cops did nothing but back down like a coward, I blame the cops and the shooter 😡😡😡
The family is to BLAME. The family raised him. The family had a responsibility to society: They didn’t search his room, they didn’t make him go to school (for his last year to make sure he graduates and can make a living) or call authorities to make him go to school. They let him be weird, play video games all day, be reclusive, live at their home while not going to school. Got him a cell phone and cell service, Wi-Fi, etc. The Family has a responsibility to society to bring up and raise a decent human being; If NOT them (family) than who? His mother should have aborted him. He was evil, he shot his grandmother 👵🏼 in the face and is responsible for the brutal killings of innocent young children. This killer is their blood 🩸: This is their Crotch Dropping. He is evil; The family needs to take responsibility for what they raised. They created him. They brought him into this world and raised him. I would place civil law suits against the family: take away their cars, homes, anything they have. They should have done a better job with their ‘crotch dropping’. They OWE society for the crotch dropping they created. They raised him, they created him, this is what they PUT OUT to society. ALL MASS SHOOTERS NEED to KNOW that their Family will PAY the Price for their WRONG doings. FAMILIES: Take responsibility for the Evil Being you created and raised !!!!!!!! DON’T play the victim. 22 people are DEAD 💀 because of your EViL CREATiON.
Only one to blame is the shooter, she tried to stop him and almost ended up losing her life! Sending healing prayers to her and the rest of the family that they can get through this! He is the monster and no one else! Yes there was other factors and failures but the grandmother was not one of them!
The family is to BLAME. The family raised him. The family had a responsibility to society: They didn’t search his room, they didn’t make him go to school (for his last year to make sure he graduates and can make a living) or call authorities to make him go to school. They let him be weird, play video games all day, be reclusive, live at their home while not going to school. Got him a cell phone and cell service, Wi-Fi, etc. The Family has a responsibility to society to bring up and raise a decent human being; If NOT them (family) than who? His mother should have aborted him. He was evil, he shot his grandmother 👵🏼 in the face and is responsible for the brutal killings of innocent young children. This killer is their blood 🩸: This is their Crotch Dropping. He is evil; The family needs to take responsibility for what they raised. They created him. They brought him into this world and raised him. I would place civil law suits against the family: take away their cars, homes, anything they have. They should have done a better job with their ‘crotch dropping’. They OWE society for the crotch dropping they created. They raised him, they created him, this is what they PUT OUT to society. ALL MASS SHOOTERS NEED to KNOW that their Family will PAY the Price for their WRONG doings. FAMILIES: Take responsibility for the Evil Being you created and raised !!!!!!!! DON’T play the victim. 22 people are DEAD 💀 because of your EViL CREATiON.
And blame the parents for being enablers.
so heartbreaking :( i hope she recovers and gets better. people shouldn't blame her about the shooting. It wasn't her fault.
I mean the only thing is the grandmother and the shooter had a shared bank account. He bought thousaunds upon thousands of dolllars worth of guns and magazines using her money. Not to mention there were so many signs he was mentally ill. She ignored all of them. Not saying she is completley at fault but definielty could have caught on what was going on.
She tried to stop her grandson I think the grandfather and the shooters mom need to be investigated nonstop bc they know way more than what they're telling. The mom said he had his reason, all I could think was "BITCH!!!" What do you mean he had his reasons this is what it gonna say to what just happened and the grandfather is just saying idk to everything when he lived with him bc the mom wasn't doing her job. But if they don't get the same energy then I really hope this whole situation gets her clean off drugs and I hope it shakes the grandfather up enough to start admitting to what he knows. The shooter had all these weapons in his room the first room in the house u have to walk by when u first walk n the house and that he didn't know the shooter dropped out of school over a year ago. I know I'm not the only one looking at the grandfather and mom side ways the grandfather more bc he ended up living with him after the mom. He didn't notice one thing days or weeks or months before what led up to the shooting? It's hard for me to believe that
She was a victim and survivor of evil...her grandson. His intentions was to kill her, but she survived by the grace of God. I pray she recovers.
@@downnthevalley1028 I think more than likely everyone in that family knew he was off, waay off. But when they knew how volatile he was and buying guns and loads of ammo, and said and did nothing! I think they should all be looked into very throughly also. Including the grandma, this whole family seems off, and weird. I bet the farm, with their police records they'll find some pretty interesting things. Oh btw, they're wondering why the public isn't sending the grandma money. Wow, just wow!
@@Ilikerainydayz yes I saw the cousin saying that and I expect family to have the woman's back but I think it's situation where if ur involved ain't nobody really able to put them selves in the next person's shoes who were also affected by the situation bc this was out of this world crazy and I get needing to and having to process things and go thru the motions but yes she really did say in other words how people are responding towards the grandma isn't right and again I get it it's her grandma and maybe she couldn't stand her cousin (the shooter) idk but I was thinking the same thing, "did she really just day that???" Like how u gonna hit everybody with that people died bc of UR COUSIN!!! That's all anybody can think right now and then she says the grandma was the first victim and just all this selfish shit I was just surprised to say the least. If I were anyone else in that family I'd stay off camera I wouldn't do any interviews bc u gotta learn how to read a room how to feel the vibe. That family is not gonna change anybody's mind anytime soon they should just do whatever it else people in charge of this whole situation are telling them to do. What really can u offer anyone affected by this they don't wanna hear be nicer to my grandma they WANT FUXKIN JUSTICE 🤬🤬🤬🤬 thinking about that pissed me off
She tried to stop her grandson from leaving the house with her husband's pickup truck along with that a gun he had in his hand a shotgun that shot at her and nearly killed her I'm surprised she's still alive and she's pulling through maybe she can answer some questions that we all have for her. She is a victim too. Her grandson is a murderer her daughter's child is the killer whom went into the school and killed all these innocent people and the two to three teachers that were in there trying to protect these children never mind that the police department are a bunch of cowards that didn't go in there and help these little children as they were being killed and executed what a shame. But just remember the grandmother is a victim too
What drove him to the point of shooting his own grandmother? Was she cruel to him?!
Very true
She tried helping him and contribute to society and he attacked her for that
@@runnergo1398 she took him and she didn't have to. Where was the mother?
@@franceseccher409 , exactly! There are a lot of questions here that need to be answered!
This grandma is innocent! I pray that people start seeing her for what she is , a victim a survivor ❤️❤️🙏🙏🙏
No she’s not, she raised one of his parents, obviously badly.
The family is to BLAME. The family raised him. The family had a responsibility to society: They didn’t search his room, they didn’t make him go to school (for his last year to make sure he graduates and can make a living) or call authorities to make him go to school. They let him be weird, play video games all day, be reclusive, live at their home while not going to school. Got him a cell phone and cell service, Wi-Fi, etc. The Family has a responsibility to society to bring up and raise a decent human being; If NOT them (family) than who? His mother should have aborted him. He was evil, he shot his grandmother 👵🏼 in the face and is responsible for the brutal killings of innocent young children. This killer is their blood 🩸: This is their Crotch Dropping. He is evil; The family needs to take responsibility for what they raised. They created him. They brought him into this world and raised him. I would place civil law suits against the family: take away their cars, homes, anything they have. They should have done a better job with their ‘crotch dropping’. They OWE society for the crotch dropping they created. They raised him, they created him, this is what they PUT OUT to society. ALL MASS SHOOTERS NEED to KNOW that their Family will PAY the Price for their WRONG doings. FAMILIES: Take responsibility for the Evil Being you created and raised !!!!!!!! DON’T play the victim. 22 people are DEAD 💀 because of your EViL CREATiON.
@@penyarol83 The family is to BLAME. The family raised him. The family had a responsibility to society: They didn’t search his room, they didn’t make him go to school (for his last year to make sure he graduates and can make a living) or call authorities to make him go to school. They let him be weird, play video games all day, be reclusive, live at their home while not going to school. Got him a cell phone and cell service, Wi-Fi, etc. The Family has a responsibility to society to bring up and raise a decent human being; If NOT them (family) than who? His mother should have aborted him. He was evil, he shot his grandmother 👵🏼 in the face and is responsible for the brutal killings of innocent young children. This killer is their blood 🩸: This is their Crotch Dropping. He is evil; The family needs to take responsibility for what they raised. They created him. They brought him into this world and raised him. I would place civil law suits against the family: take away their cars, homes, anything they have. They should have done a better job with their ‘crotch dropping’. They OWE society for the crotch dropping they created. They raised him, they created him, this is what they PUT OUT to society. ALL MASS SHOOTERS NEED to KNOW that their Family will PAY the Price for their WRONG doings. FAMILIES: Take responsibility for the Evil Being you created and raised !!!!!!!! DON’T play the victim. 22 people are DEAD 💀 because of your EViL CREATiON.
People are so evil. 🙏🏽for her and all who were injured and the families that lost lives.
The police chief needs to be arrested or removed...he didn't help those little children who was scared pleading for help!!!! And facing a gun and went thru needless shooting!! If the police officer outside & saw the shooter did nothing to stop the shooter from entering the school/he to should be accountable/loose his job..the kids lost their lives because of him..he could've stopped the shooter!!!
Exactly! I agree 100%
The family is to BLAME. The family raised him. The family had a responsibility to society: They didn’t search his room, they didn’t make him go to school (for his last year to make sure he graduates and can make a living) or call authorities to make him go to school. They let him be weird, play video games all day, be reclusive, live at their home while not going to school. Got him a cell phone and cell service, Wi-Fi, etc. The Family has a responsibility to society to bring up and raise a decent human being; If NOT them (family) than who? His mother should have aborted him. He was evil, he shot his grandmother 👵🏼 in the face and is responsible for the brutal killings of innocent young children. This killer is their blood 🩸: This is their Crotch Dropping. He is evil; The family needs to take responsibility for what they raised. They created him. They brought him into this world and raised him. I would place civil law suits against the family: take away their cars, homes, anything they have. They should have done a better job with their ‘crotch dropping’. They OWE society for the crotch dropping they created. They raised him, they created him, this is what they PUT OUT to society. ALL MASS SHOOTERS NEED to KNOW that their Family will PAY the Price for their WRONG doings. FAMILIES: Take responsibility for the Evil Being you created and raised !!!!!!!! DON’T play the victim. 22 people are DEAD 💀 because of your EViL CREATiON.
We are so sorry to hear that , sending prayers that she recovers and that people who can help will help She can not be blamed for what her grandson did
@racism.blogger.com she is not to blame regardless her grandson is his own fucked up person who has evil all the way into his core. Plenty fucked up families, plenty fucked up people, plenty people go through the most fucked up shit, yet they never do this. You better realize no one was blaming the parents of the victims and not blame the people who got or has someone that got shot that day.
@@41052 did the grandma survive?
How can anyone hate her , and speak against her,,? You all need to recognize that she is innocent, and that is wrong!! She’s a grandma of a rebellious evil grandson, who acted on this evil act!! She was a grandmother who did nothing wrong ,!! She was also a victim!! I will keep her in my prayers always!! And I pray in Jehovahs name that she recovers from all her wounds!! My Love and Prayers From Alice Texas Irene Moreno!
Shut up, the poor kid was abused by this witch.
Your a child abuser.
Praying for her healing. I cannot imagine her pain. Thank you for speaking out for her.
What kind of disgusting person go after the grandma who is just shot in the face? What kind of horrible human do you need to be?
You mean the lady who could have stopped this all from the beginning, she had the option to have an abortion and she should have had one -- obviously she wasn't fit to have children.
The shooter wasn’t created in a vacuum. He was raised by his family for all his life. That’s why people are questioning the parents and grandparents. He made his own decisions, but how did it get this far? They were oblivious to his major issues like killing animals, until this happened? Please.
Andi, you're so sanctimonious. Rooting for Celia, however, your hate and disdain are showing, you can say, " poor grandma" in one breath, and speak, hatred and vile comments immediately afterwards. No, im not disgusting. You are!! Because, I call things as I see them, you and your sanctimonious character, says vile and ugly things. I'm entitled to my opinion, as much as your stinky arse is. So. Keep your disdain to yourself. Btw, not that any kind of common sense can enter your feeble mind. You should know that this monster charged thousands of dollars on her debit card, AT A GUN STORE, no less. So unless she was as dense as you are. Anyone under the age of 90 would've noticed. She was in her late 50's very capable of stopping that monster, when there was still time. You know before he shot her in the face. And hence, demanded to know what her psycho grandson was up to! If he failed to communicate, her responsibility should've been to notify law enforcement. Now, I only have to wonder where I lost you.
@@nox7282 how do you even know he killed animals? Did you know him personally?
@@estefanytrujillo2287 Well most psychopaths due start out killing small animals, and then big ones. Some do say that once their bored of killing such things, they go for other humans. What most people are trying to say is that why didn't he get extra help on his situation and did the family even care about his way of acting.
What a survivor. Praying she can live the rest of her life in peace.
I’m so sorry for what this lady is going through. She tried to stop him and was shot. It’s not her fault, and I wish her a full recovery and healing!
So sad. This woman does not deserve to be scrutinized. I am wishing her grand daughter and their family the best 🙏🏾💛🙏🏾
My heart is broken for this Grandmother.... to be shot by her own grandson...the grief of what her grandson did...the loss of the lives her grandson took...her own disfiguring, pain injuries.. must be unbearable. For people to threaten her...to hate her...as if she pulled the trigger...that is cruelty to a degree I can not comprehend. Their anger needs to be focused on the murderer and gun control laws. Their anger needs to be focused on law enforcement officers who stood in the hallway doing nothing to stop the shooter. This woman was a victim too...and now she is being victimized again.
It always hurts the innocent the most! And it is so wrong, but what shell we do except from ignoring the cowards and ask the concerned ones for support?
I disagree with one comment. About law enforcement. We as individuals don't know how we will react in violent situations. Some see a rapist in front of them and will stand there. Others will rush in to situations and get killed. I believe these officers are in agony now about their decision to obey their commanding officer. Would their suicides help? But I know what America is turning into... uncompassionate. We are in a decline.
@@daisyy99 You and I are not trained professionals... these officers are. You and I don't know how we would respond but they needed to know they had the courage to respond in dangerous situations and if they didn't have courage they had no business being in law enforcement. They had just been through a course on how to deal with an active shooter situation. They knew they were to rush in immediately. They chose not to break their oath to serve and protect. 21 people are dead. Compassion for these cowards? I have compassion for those who died because they were cowards. If your wife or child died because they waited 1 hour before acting, how much compassion would you have for those cowards?
All those cops should be fired
So sad I have no words but" I'm Sorry"
Praying for your ENTIRE FAMILY!! Your grandmother has my best wishes!! You are all victims, including S. Ramos, and that is understood by many!! 🙏🙏🏻🙏🏽🙏🏼🙏🏾
Bless her heart, this is a tragedy to everyone involved. Prayers for this woman and the entire family. It’s not fair to judge this woman; just imagine the pain she carries.
They shouldn't blame the grandmother, place the blame on the shooter and the police that didn't do the job they took an oath for! That's to protect and serve! 💔😔
God Bless 🙌 that Grandma, not her fault of her grandsons decision! Give her a Break and Hope she pulls through she has to live with this if she survives! God Bless you Grandma 👵 🙏 ❤
That poor grandma- she looks like a sweet lady! She doesn’t deserve to be treated so rudely. It’s like we’ve all forgotten who the real person to blame is! The shooter! Look at how much chaos he started.
My heart and prayers go out to the grandmother👏🏼. I hope she recovers from this soon. She is not responsible for her grandson’s actions.
Praying for you, Celia.
Stay strong, my prayers are with you .....God will see you through this, lean on him.❤
Praying for the Grandmother. 🙏❤️🙏
Ms.Sally,I'm so happy to hear on the news that you are on the long road to recovery.Don't let what people say get you down.You we're the first victim an I'm sure your heart breaks for the victims an their families.You are an innocent bystander.Try to rest an gain your strength I say a prayer for you every day so please keep fighting for your health to return.God Bless you Love is being sent your way.
Sending prayers and love Mrs. Gonzales. Your grandson had mental health issues. That’s not yours or anyone else’s fault. Pay no attention to the trolls. You have a beautiful family. Well wishes and love from Abilene
We're trolls, according to you. You're an id!ot, this lady was aware what he'd purchased and had plenty of time to report it. Apparently the grandson saw how she was so nonchalant and was angry at him taking the pickup that's why he shot her. They were bickering. This whole family is strange. To say the least. And you. Well you might want to get your head out your
Heartless nasty people! Sending her positive vibe’s
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Shelby stay strong God is with you and your family. Your beautiful and I love how you have your grandmothers back, bc they’ve always had our backs! Prayers for the whole community.
Mere mortal words could NEVER express your sorrow, loss and pain. I'm sending gentle healing hugs, vigorous positive vibes and unending strength to overcome this tragedy. Everyone must remember that it was Pete Arredondo's fault for not breaching an active shooter situation inside Robb Elementary and not yours.
Those saying it was her fault… it wasn’t… she probably wanted to believe with all her heart that he wasn’t a bad person or crazy. As a person from a Hispanic family myself, they don’t handle mental health very well. They think it’s unreal and “just in your head”
People know how to hide their true feelings when they come from family that doesn’t believe in mental health. I hid my feelings for so long until I couldn’t anymore. It’s easier for a woman to get help than a man. I hope her story is heard… he was so heartless as to shoot her in the face… his own grandmother.
Sending prayers for her she is loved❤🙏
When I first heard he shot his own grandmother my thoughts were "this guy is so damn evil he started the day by hurting his defenseless caregiver." It takes a true evil to be that way. His poor grandma I am so happy she lived, I had heard she passed at first. God decided it wasn't her time for a reason. May she get well soon❣️❣️
Sending prayers 🙏 May God wrap his arms around your Family and keep your family safe and let your Grandmother have a full recovery 🙏 💞
Praying for your grandmother 🕊🙏🏼 I hope she heals and joins her family soon. May she stay strong 🙏🏼⚓️ This lady did not hurt anyone.
Despicable, souless individual that would blame the Grandmother of the perpetrator, especially since she is fighting for her own life at the hand of the same perpetrator!!! Sick, perverted people would condemn this Grandmother!! Despicable, deplorable, reprehensible!!
The family is to BLAME. The family raised him. The family had a responsibility to society: They didn’t search his room, they didn’t make him go to school (for his last year to make sure he graduates and can make a living) or call authorities to make him go to school. They let him be weird, play video games all day, be reclusive, live at their home while not going to school. Got him a cell phone and cell service, Wi-Fi, etc. The Family has a responsibility to society to bring up and raise a decent human being; If NOT them (family) than who? His mother should have aborted him. He was evil, he shot his grandmother 👵🏼 in the face and is responsible for the brutal killings of innocent young children. This killer is their blood 🩸: This is their Crotch Dropping. He is evil; The family needs to take responsibility for what they raised. They created him. They brought him into this world and raised him. I would place civil law suits against the family: take away their cars, homes, anything they have. They should have done a better job with their ‘crotch dropping’. They OWE society for the crotch dropping they created. They raised him, they created him, this is what they PUT OUT to society. ALL MASS SHOOTERS NEED to KNOW that their Family will PAY the Price for their WRONG doings. FAMILIES: Take responsibility for the Evil Being you created and raised !!!!!!!! DON’T play the victim. 22 people are DEAD 💀 because of your EViL CREATiON.
Salvador Ramos was a victim too. If only he was loved and nutured, and given the love he so desperately needed.
The same way we forgive Adam and Eve, our original parents, we must forgive.
My heart goes out to Salvador Ramos who made the biggest statement.
He exposed the hate that consumed him.
Where was the love to save him?
In a small part of his heart. If he was baptized. Don’t know. Heard his older sister was troubled. Who helped him obtain the weapons and the stash of ammo? What does the extended family think of him? Did they reach out to him too? Did they laugh at him? We need some back story of what sent him down this path. One of the Columbine shooter’s mother has a Ted talk. I’ve watched it. I think we have enough examples to do a study. On what happens when the switch from rational thinking turns off and hatred rules the future actions. P
I agree!!!!! The parents need to be parents!!! The grandparents tried to help but it was not enough!!!! It is too late for this kid!!! Hopefully parents and families will get help for their troubled children before it is too late!!!!
So sorry this happened to the grandmother. She must be very strong and blessed🙏
Sending you light and love abuela.
Pay no attention to evil ones. Que Dios te bendiga.
Prayers for Sally-she is so strong and I am happy she made it. ❤
I am so sorry about your grandmother, and about the pain your own family is dealing with. I hope you will all heal.
Sending love and prayers 💕
@Everything's Eventual 🤡🖕🏽
Sending love and prayers to Sally, Shelby and the family. 💐💕I hope Sally recovers. I hope you will be welcomed back into your community. When we see someone angry and in pain, I think we all, as part of a community, need to think about what we can do or who we can call to get that person help. Maybe in some of these situations, where a person takes violent action, the family is too close to see just how troubled their family member is 🤷♀️
So sorry for what your family is going through! I am praying for your grandmother. Sorry she has had to go through so many surgeries and pain. Sending love and hugs to all the Uvalde victims! Praying for you all! Sending love and hugs to all!
Prayers for healing!
This is so sad. People just are not happy unless they can blame someone, prayers for the grandmother and her family.
It’s not about blaming, it’s about finding cause and effect. This young man did not turn out the way he did by himself. He was raised to be how he was by certain people, who were also raised by others. It’s about seeing the chain of behavior so we can interrupt it and stop these problems from burgeoning. The grandmother raised one of his parents. What kind of job did she do? She was also raised by others - what kind of job did *they* do? It’s an intergenerational cycle, unless we break it.
@@penyarol83 having a bad child is not always the result of bad parenting. I know this for a fact. My grandmother raised myself, as my mother (her daughter) failed to do it.
It wasn't to do with how she was raised, my mum was raised just fine. It was the fact she got involved with drugs, of which was introduced introduced her at age 14 by my 20 year old father.
@@Saturn08 addiction is always a response to pain. Your mother had a lot of pain. Sometimes we may think someone was "raised fine" but we won't actually see or understand the real experiences they went through and the trauma that caused within them. For example not responding to and soothing a baby enough will traumatize them. Many people do not notice that kind of trauma and pain but it is very real and affects people for life.
@@Saturn08 and there's no such thing as a bad child... there is only a child whose needs have not been met or who has been abused.
@@penyarol83 as a person who was raped from 0-6 years of age by my biological father and his friends, multiple times, and to the point that it was filmed and I saw it years later... abuse isn't always the cause of an addiction. She's admitted herself, she chose addiction.
I don't doubt pain happened, of course it did. But it wasn't her first addiction. That happened at age 12. Becuase she fancied it.
Not every abused person becomes a threat
And just becuase someone hasn't been abused doesn't mean they won't become a threat
All they we're doing is showing force in the streets to the public outside the school. Never showing that force of any kind inside the school where it was needed.
Let us pray so that we all have clarity and are able to pull through these difficult times. Hate is evil and we should not judge this grandmother, who clearly tried her best to stop her OWN grandson from committing a crime. She risked her life too. She has a lot of healing of her own to do.
She is as inocent as all the victims. She doesn’t deserve to be treated and seen that way. Praying for a full recovery 🙏🏻
I can say one thing. I raised my sons well and in church. Had my grands often when young. Just took them on a vacation and the grands have changed so much in the last 2 years. I’m so disappointed. So much disrespect, cursing, arguing. Never again. I love them but just a few hours at a time now. It’s not this grandmother’s fault.
Your right she's a victim, I'm so sorry there is so many mean people. Will keep her in my prayers. And for you all.
Been praying for her recovery ever since the incident. She seems like such a strong beautiful woman.
People can be so cruel. God bless her and I pray for recovery physical and emotional. This lady is just as much a victim as anyone
Poor grandma she has no fault. Hope she gets better
Her gofundme has almost 40k!!!????? How much more do you want SHELBY!????????? WTF.
That needs to be known!!!
@@chanakka2 Right! And thats just ONE of their Gofundme's set up for her. They got this big aggressive girl as a spokesman for the family?? The blood related family of a psycho who murdered 19 innocent babies and 2 innocent women! Smh!! They should be on the news apologizing for letting that monster into society and not reporting all his evil actions prior to the tragedy. Then his mother says "he had his reasons" ....they need to stop.
Do you know how much traumatic facial reconstruction costs? Or keeping someone alive that's in critical condition? It costs about 70k to give birth, and that's not even counting the ambulance..
@@PumpkinJuice69 wtf! Then go donate!!!!! Looks like the family just moved the goal up to 100k!! Go give the 60k and then they can move it up again! It is NOT the publics responsibility to pay for her medical costs. I feel 40k is very generous. But go off....
@@gentryPR didnt this grandma know a few days earlier that he had gotten guns & thats why he was upset??? 40k is a lot... you are correct people are being generous... 🤷♀️ I agree with u..
Thank you for sharing this story.
Praying for your grandmother 🙏🏽🙏🏽🌹🌹
blaming everyone except for the people at fault , the shooter and the officers that didn’t go in there to save the poor children,,smh 😔🙏🏽🕊
Yes the teacher for not securing the door and parents who failed to ensure their children's safety by being more involved. There are a bunch of people, groups departments responsible here.
They , too, are part of this community. I have a lot of compassion for her and have been praying for her and her family too. She was the first victim. And she is a survivor. It is not the public's job to judge the totality of anyone's life. The community is torn apart. It's complicated.
How can people be so mean no one is responsible for other people actions even if they are relatives of a shooter ,murder ect.
I am praying for your grandmother. I am so sorry people are leaving mean messages to her. I will continue to pray for her and all victims and familes❤️
Wow, I thought she had passed. I pray she recovers and I'm sorry people are so ignorant. She didn't put the gun in his hand smh.
This is so awful. I wonder if she wishes she’d just pass on as well because that is not a good quality of life. It’s not her fault. She took him in when she could’ve been cold and told him he couldn’t live with her. He was technically an adult. He could’ve been on the streets and maybe that is what he needed. Sometimes tough love is necessary.
Yes, this is the Saddest situation no win win 😔
I’m so sorry, I pray she gets better. Stay strong.
Prayers for this grandmother 🙏🏻 and the other victims included
My heart goes out to this woman and I hope she fully recovers. I don't understand how people can blame her for what her grandson did. Especially since she is a victim herself. However, she is not the same type of victim as the children who were killed.
People have become vicious. WTF is wrong with them?
She stood up to her grandson which is why he shot her. That’s more than most did to protect those babies and their teachers.
At times like this, it’s natural for people to look for someone to blame and take accountability. Is it rational? Not always. And sometimes we tend to blame the wrong people.
Ramos and the cops are the only ones responsible.
@@alexandertheresurrection2810 The only ones? So the monster who did this bears no blame? 🤨
@@mamapoch1915 I just said Ramos. Salvador Ramos is the shooter.
The grandma tried to stop him wtf are people talking about I wanted the grandfather and mother to be taken in and investigated bc they can actually speak and they know way more than what they've told in their interviews
Tell Grandma Sally that we are praying for and her family. God saved her life for a reason, don't give up hope. God Bless you.
This is so very sad. My Prayers and Condolences to All the families!
Now people are blaming a victim, bless her heart
I hope she will be able to recover enough to be able to live at home and care for herself. This is so very sad. Ignore haters they are cruel and have no compassion for anyone.
Please give your grandma a hug and let her know there are people that care about her. SHE MATTERS! PRAYING FOR YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ❤️
Sorry you are going through this. Hope your grandma will fully recover
She a victim. I am praying for her.
My prayers to the grandmother. I hope gets well soon. Her grandson is responsible not the family.
Praying for a full recovery. She is the 1st victim and I can't imagine not only her physical pain but her emotional distress.
I'm so sorry hearing this. :(
In the hearing, it was told that he used a debit card to purchase the guns/ammo from a joint account he had with her. Also, the Ammo was delivered to her hone. What did she know and what did she do to protect the community?
She took a close range shot to the face by an AR 15. Id say that’s a lot.
No subscribers Gloria G? Just make an account to be a troll huh? That poor lady didn’t do anything wrong
@@AmEn1R , GTFOH, you don't have subscribers either. You act like regular people on YT have subscribers. That's only for content creators. Smh
Thats right her fault too😡😡 But i still pray for her, because she paid a very high price for her big mistake
The grandmother was a joint on the account because maybe when the account was opened he was still a minor and needed an adult on the account. I’m still on my kids accounts today as a joint because they were minors when I established the accounts. Just because I’m a joint, I don’t look at their accounts because they are adults now. My kids buy stuff from Amazon all the time and send it to my house because they know someone is always home. The grandmother was a joint probably just by default because of his age. She probably didn’t pay attention to his activities on his account. A point someone else made in the comments…maybe she was afraid of her grandson. Maybe he treated her bad when the grandfather wasn’t home. No one knows what this grandmother went through while living with her grandson. Another thing…chances of the grandmother having Facebook is probably zero.