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- I think the P-47M is very cool. Kinda needs altitude, and a lot of time, but matches are only 25 minutes :(
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It was called a turbosupercharger because gas turbine technology was so new that they needed to refer to turbos in a matter that could be understood by everyone, and superchargers were very much in season, so they tacked on the turbo onto supercharger for familiarity to what it does.
Came here to say this myself
Slight correction. A supercharger, at the time, was any forced induction device, not just engine driven ones. Superchargers as we know them were known as engine driven Superchargers. Later on the lexicon changed to make it less confusing.
@@oco8783 Thanks for the correction my guy
@Top Secret NP, it's not really a big deal because the terms have changed. But it made it difficult to learn about WW2 plane stuff without the language
@@oco8783 right. Also rather confusing is the turbocompound engine designs, which boosted power by recovering otherwise lost energy from the exhaust stream to additionally power the crankshaft, instead of merely boosting the pressure in the intake manifold.
would love to see more history background of the aircraft you are reviewing in future videos i think its a nice touch
Trying to move in that direction a bit, I’d honestly love to try my hand at making a full video essay type video about a certain plane/planes. Pretty fun.
Impressive, very nice. Now let’s see F-8E’s 6 minute video
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look at that subtle off-white coloring. The tastefull thickness of it. O, my god. It even has a watermark.
I mean, both turbos and mechanical superchargers are "superchargers", because that's just what they do. They supercharge the air.
The Germans and a few more countries call them "Compressors", because a big part of supercharging is, of course, compression.
The main reason why turbos/turbochargers omit the supercharger part is that "turbo" is much more consumer-friendly than "turbosupercharger".
They don't "supercharge" the air, they just compress it to force more air in the engine, one uses exhaust gasses and one uses mechanical power directly from the engine crankshaft to do that job
The P-47M is my favorite prop in the entire game, fits my playstyle like a glove.
You should watch Greg's videos on the P-47. (i.e. Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles) He goes into detail how the system works.
P47 is one of the best platforms.
I've got one for every nation that has it.
Literally a Grandpa A10.
4000 rds of .50 outta 8 guns.
What more could you need?
Jug boi go brrrrrrr
The p47 can be surprisingly nimble at the right speed, and is incredibly comfy to fly in sim as you can give yourself all the time in the world to climb to where you need to be. Top it off with 8 50cals being all you need to pull apart bombers if you needed to, let alone fighters.
the p47 kinda has the same problem as the p51d models as the matches are just too short so people dont climb all that high and by the time you get there the match is already halfway over, and the outcome often times already decided
Man that edit at the end gave me chills, that was amazing!
Song is After Dark
Many aircraft engines of the time had either a multistage supercharger or a turbocharger and a supercharger. The P-47 had an integral supercharger attached to the engine as well as a turbocharger. Turbosupercharger can refer to a combined system, a turbo, or a supercharger, in this case the former.
I love the P47s, people tend to underestimate them, but they’re some of the best energy fighters out there provided you have the altitude and speed to work with.
Some of its biggest detractors are the YakUFO and a few other planes broken flight models and its own high altitude performance being poorly represented.
One of the coolest outros I've seen in a while. Great video :)
You should make a video on the firecrest, 2.3 british squadron reward attacker with 2775 HP engine, airspawn, 2 M3 brownings with late war tracer belts it's really good
A supercharger, at the time, was any forced induction device, not just engine driven ones. Superchargers as we know them were known as engine driven Superchargers. Later on the lexicon changed to make it less confusing.
Turbo supercharger was from my
Understanding the original name for the turbo when it was in its early adaptations
The P-47 series are so fun. Especially the D-28/D-30s, because I don't have the 47M. Viable in air rb AND grb
It shines the brightest in air sim. Its very stable to fly and got good performance allround
not sure if it works on the M variant, but the D28 and some other P47s you can set prop pitch to 80%, fuel mixture to 80%, get more hp, and fly with rads at 5% without overheating
for anyone reading this, you can fly at 100% prop pitch and 0/0 rads on the d-28
1:05 I spit out my tea, upset that my computer is soaked now but still really funny.
Easiest way to explain the turbo supercharger on the p47 is basically like more saying it has a pro charger on a car. It is different, however that's probably the easiest way to explain it
thanks for making a p-47 video, the p-47N-15 is at 4.7 br, so no worries with Ju 288s, plus if you read the information, the p-47 has strong wings, strong ailerons, and speed. At high speeds I pulled around 10Gs, almost enough to outturn a spitfire. In fact, the p-47 kinda acts like a jet, minus the climb rate.
When was the last time you tried the ta152h1? Just went back to it and found it fun learning to 1v3 with a great rate fighter. 1v3 because ju288 but still, most aircraft can't hold energy the same. Trapping multiple spitfires and mustangs has become quite soothing to the soul.
I really appreciate how you link your outro music in the description for us.
The funniest part is that pretty much every US heavy bomber (B-17, B-24, B-29) used turbosupercharged engines.
Now think about how many turbos they'd need to crank out for those, plus the P-47s, plus the P-38s, plus prototypes and whatnot. American industry had no equal.
The engine in that airplane is called a Pratt & Whitney R 2800 don't know the dash number. I believe the horsepower is close to 2800 hp. And to get that they need to stuff the cylinders with air. It has an internal supercharger that feeds it. Most radial aircraft engines have internal superchargers. But they want more horsepower. So they add turbochargers. What you showed earlier was the turbocharging plumbing. Those two exhaust pipe looking things down below and behind the engine are waste gates. Not exhaust. Supercharger is inside the engine case you can't see it. That why it's called a turbo supercharger because it has both. The actually exhaust is right in front of the tail wheel. That where the turbochargers is.
Definetly one of the must fun vids I saw on your channel (all of them are fun btw), loved the nature of this vid keep it up
I just discovered this channel today and I'm loving it already
great edit man, love your edits keep it on
To that one comment on the Bf-109E7, I can confirm, it absolutely stomped at 2.3, and was the most fun I’ve had in war thunder. But, the fun had to end, because no nation should have comically undertiered planes. Except Russia of course. Looking at you, Su-11.
As a new player to air rb, the Thunderbolt is hard to learn. I'll revisit it when I git gud, but in the meantime, great video!
you can check out Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles channel for technical analysis for planes like P47
I'd say the most fun P-47D-22-Re it can keep up with it's peers, and turn surprisingly well at the right speed and right situations, plus you can run away from danger from quite a few aircraft.
The only thing I don't feel comfortable in a turn fight with are spitfires
zeros and corsairs.
* preview * this is where your supercharger comes from. Is it really worth it? #stopviolenceP47
i agree
I am bit late but fyi
P47M has on par with 190 Doras , in fact it even climbs slighter better so not only can match them early on, they are not that more maneuverable at low speed. So you got pretty good chance of winning the early high alt dog fights.
Outside of M, D28 is only other 47 worth flying and that again because its climb rate is competitive enough. Rest are just Bircks
If your keen on the technical aspect of WWII aircraft, check out Greg's Airplanes & Automobiles, he even did a series covering th3 P47 across various topics.
P47 is pretty damn good in SIM seen people just basically turn a lobby into BnZ hell when flying in pairs especially when the 22/25 gets into the 2.7-3.7 lobby
Oh god the bi being named after the plane we all hate the most (because of its cult, not the performance) is just the cherry on top
I’ve noticed you’ve been doing low tier props recently so i had suggestion. fw190 A4 or A5. it has a cracked flight performance and i’m racking up 6 kills almost every game
From my understanding turbo chargers are driven by exhaust. While supercharger are driven by a pulley, shaft, gears. The turbo charger can reach higher HP as they don't steal hp from the engine as a supercharger does.
Lol... The throat singing is on point
From one New Edge owner to another, nice 👌
Matches end too fast for this plane. The fw 190 d13 will always be my fav prop
I could just tell you’re a car guy with the fire outro you could just edit the car into, and it would work lol.
Relax brother, I thought the same thing: driven by exhaust = turbocharger, driven by crank = supercharger. And in the automotive world that holds perfectly true, however Greg's airplanes and automobiles taught me that in aviation apparently it's not that simple. I don't really understand either.
I've always thought you were a little too arrogant, a little too sure about your opinions. I still do I guess but I have to admit that learning you have petrol flowing in your veins with that sexy ass mustang convertible makes me a little more... receptive to your convictions.
Oh I’m never sure about anything.
I didn’t realize I come off as arrogant, I’ll do my best to not do that anymore.
New Joob outro, the man is goated fr
Luv u Jooby. You should play my favorite Heavy fighter that was always cucked by its fake top speed… the F7F
Oh man. I’m not sure if I gave the patience for the tiger cat as much as I like them 0-0
@@_Joob 2015 WT getting out dove by literally every prop that it could actually out dive and outrun IRL was 🤯
Isn't it called a "Twin charger" or something similar.
1:22 tto answer your question... back in the day Turbos were called supers then they flopped and speratered... Gregs airplanes and automobiles has covered that in his P-47 series... So to answer your second question it's a turbo.
i luke this more historical oriented joob. keep it up funny plane man
The P47 air spawn. A gruesome and long gone ancient era.
Love the edit at the end
P-47M is a great plane. True shame that the 288 is in the game. P-47m can actually hold it's own in a dogfight with 109s, 190D and even 152s
Most war thunder matches are 1 sided stomps, that's just how bad the matches are. Also flying the upgraded premium version of the plane, of course you have an advantage.
Do you use MEC? because the thunderbolts get more power at lower alt if you fly it with rich mixture.
P-47 is better than people think. I never really got the hang of it, but in the right hands, it can do some serious damage.
In my opinion the P-47's are at their best in ground RB as ground pounders.
Listen here Feller you can't be trying to do a Southern Accent that bad. You making it look real hard feller.
Its a good plane but obviously isn't meant to win against planes which outclimb and outturn it. You just sorta have to keep climbing and gaining an energy and altitude advantage even if it means spending the entire game trying to get above the enemy, ending up doing nothing fun. Or throw yourself into the furball and have a little fun.
in other words, the P-47 that goes SUUUTTUTUTUTU
Joob, just knoe that i love ypur intros :)
Thoughts on the German P47 at 3.7? It feels so ridiculously sluggish compared to the other planes you face at that BR
Ever played ground rb?
@@cookiewookie1664 what? I mostly play ground RB. German P47 doesn't even have bombs unlike other nations
@@reuben7705 yeah fair enough it has no bombs but at 3.7 the 50 cals can kill a lot and can rinse strike aircraft at the br, if it went any lower it would be too strong as the guns it gets are good. I mean look at the f4u1c a 2.7 plane at 4.7 because of the 4 20mm
@@cookiewookie1664 yeah it can do work against some tanks, I'm not advocating it going lower, just even tho I like P47s, like joob said I find their sluggishness pretty frustrating especially in air RB.
Best P-47 in this game,i grinded all Us tree with this
Nice car
cool mustang you got
After Dark outro 😍
the russian p-47d premium is at 4.3 and while its pretty shit you can get alot of kills if played properly
Definitely the best P-47 and of course its a premium, even better that gaijin decide to put 2 of them
Both are identical just different pilot and paintjob
I guess they tried to milk US player through Poland and USAAF limited sale day
I love the p47s but I think it could not win a 1v1 against a bf109 if the pilot plays right, still, good video
nice wheels bro
Remember back in the days fighting p47m on Norway was such a pain and a hassle
Your outtros are amazing mate
a turbo is a super charger but a super charger isnt a turbo
always nailing those outros 🔥
THE JUUUUUUUUUUG
You should play the very distant cousin of the P47
Re.2005
Idea to defeat the Ju-288. Bring unguided rockets and shoot them at Ju-288 point blank.
war thunder tips be like the P-47D was nicknamed jug because of it's fuselage
That outro was crisp as hell
Isn’t it just a turbo bc it’s being propelled by the exhaust gases?? Not driven by the engine?
turbosuperchargers are exactly what they sound like. There is a supercharger usually directly driven by the engine crankshaft and there is a separate turbocharger. This method is used to provide more dynamic power at altitude because the superchargers have different gear speeds with corresponding critical altitudes. Above the critical altitude and the supercharger cannot provide enough boost to maintain maximum manifold pressure. The Brits, Germans, Russians, et al solved this issue by having two, three, or sometimes four supercharger gear speeds to maintain pressure at altitude. The US on the otherhand, opted to develop two speed superchargers paired with a turbocharger that would close its wastegate above the supercharger critical altitude to provide supplemental boost to the engine. The US then classified the turbosupercharger and proceeded to limit its use in aircraft, which condemned several otherwise promising designs (which relied on the turbosupercharger and the engine specifically designed to utilize it, the Allison V-1710) to be relegated to secondary theatres like the P-39. The turbosupercharger was fitted to Pratt & Whitney's R-2800 for the P-47 as the logical development to upscale the P-43 to accept the R-2800 instead of the smaller R-1830 which was anticipated to be an obsolete powerplant by the time of an armed conflict in the early 1940s.
In game, this is why the P-47 and the P-38 (two US planes in game that were equipped with the full turbosupercharger system) start to develop a monstrous power advantage above 28,000 feet relative to most German fighters as the turbocharger is modeled as maintaining full engine power while the Germans start to experience power falloff as their superchargers start to lose boost. This is why the La-5 stops being dominant above 12,000 feet, etc...
A supercharger, at the time, was any forced induction device, not just engine driven ones. Superchargers as we know them were known as engine driven Superchargers. Turbosuperchargers just refrenced the turbo itself not the turbo and the supercharger.
Later on the lexicon changed to make it less confusing.
@@oco8783 Sure, but that lexicon difference you're referencing hasnt been used in the aviation world since the advent of the turboencabulator.
If this video was released earlier I might not have bought the su11
Its a turbo. They called it a supercharger because turbos were new and they didn't know what to call it.
We need a mode without premiums so that playing the P-51H and P-47 don't become impossible
The plane is so dumb. Bad performance at low altitude, massive supercharger made for high altitudes, then they designate it as a ground attack plane?
What the hell?
You mentioned the bf109 e7 Japanese tech, please can you put up some footage?
try out the g56!! its my fav plane! its good! is OP! its turnfight king! and now it also is CHEAP!
that thing used to be 40k SL repair cost lol
@@AlvaroP4S ta 152 h was about this expensive at one point too
nice edit at the end bro keep up the good work
You should do a video on the j26
P-47M is just stupid. Probably one of the best fighter bombers in ground RB.
A turbo is use exhaust to spin spin
Is the P47M not purchasable anymore? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
It isn’t always for sale. It pops up for sale every once in awhile. I think it was for sale fairly recently, just don’t remember when.
Ayo I have an sn95 too! I wonder if there's a link between owning fun cars and war thunder
Lets try out p47 d28, its 5.0 a really good 😁
Wait since when did the p47 have a air brake!?!?
i love the p47m personally, and i love abusing the airbrake against clueless K-4 players.
The gayest part of this game is the only Mike model of Thunderbolt being a premium. Literally the best aircraft of WWII.
Hell yeah joob is a car nerd
BIG time
@@_Joob Thats dope! I have an ND Miata and a turbo NA painted Porsche rubystone red for absolutely no reason.
I subscribed because of the edit at the end
I highly recommend checking out Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles channel, he's got a fantastic series of 8 or 9 extensive videos covering the p-47, as well as a whole lot of other stellar videos