A $70 pixel plane you should actually buy... | F-4S Phantom II

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  • čas přidán 10. 03. 2023
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    Haha F-4S is just F-4J but slightly more edgy. Fr fr tho this is like the best tier 7 premium you can buy imao ngl. If you want a good grinder for the US, maybe this is the plaen for u
    Pls subscribre, or don't do whatever you like
    Just know that I appricate you and I hope you haf a very good day. U got this chief
    (Also 'the best radar at 11.3' is really situational)
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Komentáře • 587

  • @WalvisYT
    @WalvisYT  Před 9 měsíci +112

    WARNING! Everything I say about the F-4S in this video holds true to this day, except for one thing... It is no longer the tier 7 premium that I would recommend for the US; buy the F-5C instead, since the F-5C was changed into a tier 7 premium.

    • @unitedfront9717
      @unitedfront9717 Před 9 měsíci +5

      But they changed the price of the f5c too didnt they

    • @bhesrajjaishy5144
      @bhesrajjaishy5144 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@unitedfront9717Yes , increase 5dollars

    • @luckyme5063
      @luckyme5063 Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@unitedfront9717did they?

    • @WeBuild4Life
      @WeBuild4Life Před 9 měsíci

      @@luckyme5063 +$5

    • @christophegervais6022
      @christophegervais6022 Před 9 měsíci +3

      check out the Kfir Canard, you said that the f4s is in your opinion the best fighter that can bomb, the kfir has enough for a base at 10.7, it never gets uptiered to 11.7, it goes mach 1.16 with full bomb load, amazing 30mm guns, ...

  • @Krelp
    @Krelp Před rokem +655

    Price is wack but plane does slap

  • @AverageWTPilot
    @AverageWTPilot Před rokem +381

    Definitely the best premium, does extremely well in air if used right, and can even be very good in a CAS role in some situations (Ground battles).

    • @conebear9291
      @conebear9291 Před rokem +11

      “Some situations” being if there is no enemy SPAA.

    • @fire_drake12.arc.24
      @fire_drake12.arc.24 Před rokem +16

      ​@@conebear9291 so like literally every CAS plane

    • @phantomvulcan2206
      @phantomvulcan2206 Před rokem +1

      So im in a situation where I need to grind us air tree because I want and need CAS. Now don't get me wrong but I suuuuuck at air rb (situational awareness when I played my A5C was horrible) what should I get to aid my us tech tree air Grinder?

    • @phantomvulcan2206
      @phantomvulcan2206 Před rokem

      Ps, I have an 11.0 M1A2. So I would want an 10.7-11.0 us tech tree cas planes such as the A7E Corsair II

    • @alexhohl8530
      @alexhohl8530 Před rokem +4

      @@phantomvulcan2206 the TRAM has really good ground ordinance if you’re looking for a good CAS aircraft. Same with the A-10 early, but it’s gonna suffer against AA. Both have AIM 9Ls which are disgusting at their BRs

  • @genericamerican.
    @genericamerican. Před rokem +132

    I have it and my only issue with it is the Aim-9H. That missile is only useful against the most thoroughly lobotomized enemies. Great plane.

    • @NineSeptims
      @NineSeptims Před rokem +10

      Lead it as hard as you can it really helps.

    • @joeboe1194
      @joeboe1194 Před rokem +7

      use its range, most ppl dont expect u to shoot from as far as you can with those missiles

    • @fire_drake12.arc.24
      @fire_drake12.arc.24 Před rokem

      Kinda how it is with all missiles that arent all-aspect to be fair

    • @cookiecraze1310
      @cookiecraze1310 Před rokem +8

      Best way to get kills with it: 3-4km out from above and behind the enemy, most enemies won't notice you and the trail will be gone by the time they turn around.
      1-0.5km against a low speed enemy, most will dump flares but it won't matter as they can't pull hard enough to make them work.

    • @starrelic275
      @starrelic275 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@cookiecraze1310what’s that in Liberty?

  • @dangerdeevee
    @dangerdeevee Před rokem +210

    Aim9H is much more flare resistant than Aim9G, which is a welcome upgrade compared to the F-4J

    • @V-V1875-h
      @V-V1875-h Před rokem +7

      Also the huge boresight

    • @cookiecraze1310
      @cookiecraze1310 Před rokem +12

      Just yesterday I fired a 9H at 0.9km against an enemy F4S and, even though it dumped 6 flares, it still went right into its ass

    • @ricobrown6630
      @ricobrown6630 Před 11 měsíci +3

      @@V-V1875-h The G also has the huge boresight.

    • @23thenicu
      @23thenicu Před 10 měsíci +1

      AIM-9H has better track rate(20 degrees/s compared to 12), so it is much less likely to lose lock on sudden manouvers.

    • @ArmaBulgarian
      @ArmaBulgarian Před 6 měsíci

      So I am a little late, but track rate really does not matter above 10, since the stat is essentially the missile's responsiveness time for updating the lock (you know, making sure it's still tracking a heat signature and all). Now, it certainly doesn't hurt to have more of it, but this stat only matters if the enemy decides to yolo a 12-13G turn in a last-ditch effort to make the missile go inert from losing the FOV of the signature. Needless to say, such turns bleed so much speed that even the Phantom II, mid at dogfighting as it is, will make short work of them.

  • @Registered_Simp
    @Registered_Simp Před rokem +26

    4:31 the only real difference is a hidden value in the missile file. The seeker track rate of the Aim-9G is 12 degrees per second. The AIm-9H's is 20. Theoretically, this allows for sharper movement as higher aspects assuming you have some airspeed. Or it allows for a cleaner track on VIOLENTLY maneuvering targets. Save for that, nothing really for what can be modeled in game outside failure rates (please god no).

  • @bpop2148
    @bpop2148 Před rokem +54

    The difference between the Aim9H and the Aim9G is that the Aim9H is supposed to be a little bit more flare resistant. If it actually makes a difference I don't know.

    • @Huski3s
      @Huski3s Před rokem +2

      9H has better tracking rate in game

    • @bpop2148
      @bpop2148 Před rokem

      @@Huski3s oohhh ok

    • @chanceth5957
      @chanceth5957 Před rokem

      G can also be radar slaved. H cannot.

    • @RT42069
      @RT42069 Před rokem +1

      Nothing is flare resistant anymore, except maybe the Python-3 / PL-8

  • @hurky6367
    @hurky6367 Před rokem +8

    It's amazing keeping in touch how war thunder is going on now even though I've completely moved on to BMS and DCS now (I left afew months / year before the F14 launched)

  • @zerrierslizer1
    @zerrierslizer1 Před rokem +8

    as i am already in the 10.0 - 11.0 area with my Ground Forces on the US Tech Tree, i got this one simply to have something to help me grind the aerial aspect of it, as well as to have a plane to give pretty effective backup to teammates as well as Squad Mates.

  • @Registered_Simp
    @Registered_Simp Před rokem +17

    As far as the cannon pod goes for the F-4J/S, I feel it's a preference/scenario thing. Most times, I will carry a pod for that backup firepower. However, if I'm in a larger squad and we're working coms, I may opt to ditch it in favor of that extra performance boost for BVR. Then I just orbital strike people with the sidewinders. Not always a good idea to run without, but it has its times.

  • @cookiecraze1310
    @cookiecraze1310 Před rokem +2

    F4S does get a radar lead for the 20mm, which is a good learning tool for people who haven't had to dogfight at top tier before and so don't know how much to lead (usually its about half of your screen)

  • @MrPanzerCatYT
    @MrPanzerCatYT Před rokem +15

    The only complaint i have about the f4s compared to the f4j is that it is a good bit slower due to the slats. For a missle bus id rather take the speed but with the big maps every game i think the f4s is the best premium until you get within 15km of targets then id differ to the mig23ml. It also basically gets preferred matchmaking by having to fight less f14s

  • @gopniksaurolophus6354
    @gopniksaurolophus6354 Před rokem +6

    "Reaction time" is better on the on the 9H in the game files, no idea what that does...
    Depending on who you ask, there is either no difference between the 9G and the 9H, or the 9H is a lot more flare resistant (there is no proof of the latter in the game files). Technically the 9H is better than the 9G but the difference is marginal I guess"
    Do not ask me how long I had to time this so I could read it 💀

  • @reavy6945
    @reavy6945 Před rokem +4

    I'm considering this one. Flying F-4E against 12.0's and even many of the 11.3 BR planes makes me want to cry

  • @jackgamer6307
    @jackgamer6307 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I impulse bought this thing after going on a huge loss streak in the Mig-23M.
    Honestly one of my best spending decisions yet. The bundled in premium time let me geind all the way up to about the F-100 in the tech tree, going from pretty much 0. That much grind in 2-3 weeks is not bad.
    It's actually a great plane to learn radar combat on, as it doesn't have an overwhelming ammount of radar modes, just two, plus the ACM and HMD versions of both. It shows the differences of pulse and pulse doppler great, and I say it prepares a pilot for top tier combat leagues better than the F-5C can.
    If you grind out the F-16/F-14 in your F-5C, without touching anything else, you'll have no god damn clue how the mor advanced weapon systems work and you'll end up resorting to the ol' reliable F-5 tactic of "hold elevator untill enemy in crosshair", which will get you killed at top tier

  • @ltcuddles685
    @ltcuddles685 Před rokem +7

    Yes, I fully support more people buying the F-4S! They've exponentially increased my grind efficiency in the F-4EJ KAI.

    • @charlesbukowski9836
      @charlesbukowski9836 Před rokem

      How come? 😮

    • @patta8388
      @patta8388 Před 10 měsíci

      @@charlesbukowski9836Generally, F-4S pilots are idiots and fodder

    • @TheSharkkyy
      @TheSharkkyy Před 8 měsíci

      @@charlesbukowski9836 all the noobs buying this becoming free rp/silver lions

  • @dankmemewalker7738
    @dankmemewalker7738 Před 10 měsíci +5

    cool tip, when using the phantoms sidewinders with hmd dont fire the missle if the target you are tracking is above your canopy. The missle kinda just doesnt track the target after launch as you see in this vid 13:46

  • @TheSMedema
    @TheSMedema Před rokem +10

    I love the f4s. I don't have it but its making grinding to mig 29 a lot easier with all the noobs that don't flare.

    • @patta8388
      @patta8388 Před 10 měsíci +1

      How do you use an american plane to grind a soviet/german one?

    • @epiceevee325
      @epiceevee325 Před 9 měsíci +2

      No he’s shooting down all the F4S players

  • @Nobody-ox2ye
    @Nobody-ox2ye Před rokem

    hi! I was wondering, how do you get your "search for a radar lock" thing (I don't remember its name) to go alongside your mouse when you're looking left or right?

  • @ponasduuu4261
    @ponasduuu4261 Před 10 měsíci

    love it grinding the usa aviation tech tree is super fun with this either i bomb to chill or go fight others

  • @danaolsongaming
    @danaolsongaming Před rokem +2

    I'm curious why you don't use the rectangular radar? Maybe it's because I'm used to DCS, but the overall SA and picture of what's in front of you is so much better in the rectangular radar; and you can easily see the delineations of your high/low probability to kill when using BVR missiles.

  • @theapexdragon5010
    @theapexdragon5010 Před rokem +25

    I loved the F4J, don't know if im stupid or what but when they were both 11.3 I did better in the F4J than the F14 . It took me 2 days to get the F16 with out premium or talisman.

    • @jayklink851
      @jayklink851 Před rokem +2

      I preferred the F4j to the Tomcat all day.

    • @Leon_der_Luftige
      @Leon_der_Luftige Před rokem

      @@jayklink851 why that?

    • @jayklink851
      @jayklink851 Před rokem

      @@Leon_der_Luftige During the Tomcat's reign as top dog, everyone had both, a) a hard on for F14s. And b) in a battle full of Tomcats, on both sides, players (especially F-14 pilots) didn't feel threatened by the F4; it was quite easy to jump them.

  • @beeengineer
    @beeengineer Před rokem +8

    I will just wait for the DCS F4E to be released.

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před rokem +1

      I think this is a good decision

  • @jediel4321
    @jediel4321 Před rokem +41

    The only think I don’t like about the f4s is the price besides that perfect grinder and better version of all the phantom

    • @jacvasdf5349
      @jacvasdf5349 Před rokem +4

      better version of all phantoms? are you sure about that sir?

    • @FreakishWizardthegamingwizard
      @FreakishWizardthegamingwizard Před rokem +2

      ​@@jacvasdf5349 at least American. And pretty much only because of premium bonus

    • @cookiecraze1310
      @cookiecraze1310 Před rokem

      ​@@FreakishWizardthegamingwizard and performance wise. Leading edge slats (more than the F4E so better performance), best armament (7f is the best the phantoms get, only the J also gets it, and the 9H is slightly better than the 9G).

  • @ATBatmanMALS31
    @ATBatmanMALS31 Před rokem +6

    Not really a replacement for knowing what you're doing... but that is really just positioning in that range so... just show up to the battle at the right time, and click on your enemies. Pretty easy... not sure about fun, but certainly easy.

  • @from_George_with_luv
    @from_George_with_luv Před rokem

    Hey man
    Great video
    I’ve been playing top tier us lately and I’m about to get the f4j
    I kind of understand the concept of notching but I’ve been struggling to get how to use the hmd or whatever it’s called
    How does it work because I can’t seem to lock the migs in test drive

  • @ricolives1166
    @ricolives1166 Před rokem +3

    Maybe I'll buy it when it's half off. I can wait since I've been struggling with the F14 and I've been having fun and good games with the F4J.

  • @Alecmoseby
    @Alecmoseby Před rokem

    At 2:05 how did you get your radar to lock immediately?? I always have to manually lock my radar

  • @starrelic275
    @starrelic275 Před 7 měsíci

    The F4s is a surprisingly good bomber so long as you know how to hide from enemies. Unlike other jets such as the F-14B or the F5c that have a great top speed and so can get a base before the enemy is ready to fight, the F4s is sluggish and much slower especially if running a full bomb payload and so it helps to know how to fly low, notch radar, and just avoid being spotted in the first place. I can get usually 2 basses before needing to rearm.

  • @Casual_Teaz-_-
    @Casual_Teaz-_- Před rokem +1

    War Thunder: after accidentally leaking classified files and watching this video: 0:55
    war Thunder: what you want us to re invent the whole plane :(

  • @alijah000
    @alijah000 Před rokem +1

    great video you’re going places fs

  • @JohnSavo-zz5wq
    @JohnSavo-zz5wq Před 2 měsíci

    i’ve grinded the whole of the us with this brick

  • @c0m1x86
    @c0m1x86 Před rokem +1

    Hi walv!s i love your content btw, but what controls do you use i can't seam to get eany controls i am comfy with. Sorry for my bad English

  • @RandomGuy-yp4hx
    @RandomGuy-yp4hx Před rokem +1

    yeah, i have a question, if i buy this aircraft will it come with the modifications or will i have to get those with research

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před rokem

      All premium aircraft come with all mods.

  • @philipprobst1783
    @philipprobst1783 Před rokem

    Are the Mini AGM usefull ? Because 2S38 and A Roland System for example are the heavy enemys 🤔

  • @sentientsnowman
    @sentientsnowman Před rokem +1

    Ok wait in the gameplay with the f4j how the heck do you do that thing that is like the acm boresight radar slaved to your cursor I did not know that was a thing

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před rokem

      Its just another radar mode. You have SRC, ACM, and HMD.

  • @charliegoodchild-io3hz

    very good because in the usa tt the f14a or f16 a-adf is everyones fav so for the topgun fans its good for them

  • @MrGaby543
    @MrGaby543 Před rokem

    Nice, keep making more of these

  • @scottboyer8450
    @scottboyer8450 Před rokem

    Would you recommend buying this for someone returning to the game after many years ( I never made it to Jets in any tech tree) Not sure what tier/BR I'm at atm.

    • @eyo8766
      @eyo8766 Před rokem +2

      I'd recommend the F5C on a sale tho.
      If you are stuck in Tier IV JU288 prop hell, the F5 is more welcoming to top tier.
      The again i dont have 4500 PHP/70 USD lying around for this plane

  • @F-4E-58-MC
    @F-4E-58-MC Před rokem +1

    No. Take the. Damn. Gun.
    All other things, loving this girl! 2-3 kills in 80% of matches is a really nice change after so many F-4E matches. Using the F-4S to grind the F-4J is much wow, very pog

  • @Korbeanos
    @Korbeanos Před rokem +2

    yay upload!

  • @finnversteeg4341
    @finnversteeg4341 Před rokem +1

    Im at early jets should i buy it or a other plane. ( i have the mig 23 ml already so what plane should i buy the f4s or somting else

  • @fishmas
    @fishmas Před rokem +1

    Wanted to point something out, if you have enough patience and you can’t really afford it since it costs 70 USD, gajin gives sales for premium vehicles which should strip 50% of the price out, the next sale should happen around the Easter holiday

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před rokem +1

      F-4S will be too new, I highly doubt it will be on sale.

  • @ZACHARIAHPLAYZZZ
    @ZACHARIAHPLAYZZZ Před 6 měsíci +2

    im on p-39 is that 2 far? its not much but idk if he means smth like p400

  • @berkecemnavruz116
    @berkecemnavruz116 Před rokem

    your radar lock settings look very good, can you make a video about it?

  • @XboxProdigy1
    @XboxProdigy1 Před rokem +3

    I play on Xbox and I got the F-4S for 20 dollars thanks to Microsoft rewards.
    Honestly a worthwhile purchase simply for grinding SL

    • @aidanrosales5444
      @aidanrosales5444 Před rokem

      How on my ps5 it still says coming soon not sure how I can buy it it’s not anywhere

  • @APolishedTurd
    @APolishedTurd Před 11 měsíci

    The F4s can actually retain energy decently in shallow turns. But if you yank on that stick and pull the surface and leading edge flaps along with the Ailerons you stoppin.
    Also people miss that you can radar Slave the AIM9H
    Also yes it is worth it to fly without the gun pod. You really only run into situations where you need it when you don’t have it BECAUSE you are just flighty more maneuverable and quicker. So then you put it on and lose just enough of both to miss the opportunity to use it 90% of the time and just get slower for using it.

  • @idhqbqjqsixjbsnqkwiwhs
    @idhqbqjqsixjbsnqkwiwhs Před 11 měsíci

    So this playstyle with 4x headon with radar, ive been doin thisnwith the all aspects r60mk su25k and it works the same but its ir and without radar so flarable but ye should i buy this prem if i wanna start usa quz i already play like this ? And ik about the radar locking andshit ive binded it

  • @fredning3340
    @fredning3340 Před rokem +1

    Hey Walvis wanna thank you for the video as it is very informative.
    I bought the F4S a few days ago and played some 2 dozen games but I’m struggling a bit.
    It’s not all on the plane but I personally having some issue keeping a radar lock people. I typically try to get a lock and fire the sparrow at 15-5km, but feels like doing so gives my opponent ample of time to notch.(or even just a mild turn feels plenty enough to confuse the Phantom radar) Should I try to lock at a even closer range so it doesn’t tip them off?
    The other thing is how chaotic 32 player match is at top tier, it snowballs really hard often one fur ball decides the match, and me being an average player feels really powerless to affect the match. I can somewhat hold my own in those small engagements but in top tier that feels very uncommon, at least compares to 10-11.0. At that BR bracket I can be on the offensive while juggling a bandit on my six as long as I keep out of his guns and have flares. However in top tier I feel like I’ll get killed by radar missile if I take my eyes off RWR for a second. Are there any general pointers for top tier gameplay that could help?
    I realize that’s a whole lot of questions and I appreciate your time!

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před rokem +3

      The F-4S' radar is great and honestly really reliable. However, I only realized how reliable it is once I understood exactly how it works. Watching some videos about how pulse Doppler radar works on YT might help a ton in terms of gaining insight into what you radar can actually see, and what it can't. This doesn't have to be a WT specfic video, there is a pretty good explanation of PD radar from James May for example.
      Personally I fire the 7Fs around 6km, but only at targets who I'm confident do not have enough time / space to notch the radar.
      16 vs 16 players was a horrible change. The best advice I can give is:
      - Hug the deck; all radars loose track when you get close to the ground.
      - Keep your speed up; don't turn / dogfight with individual enemies unless you are very late in the match.
      - Try to force as many headons as you can.
      I hope this helps.

    • @fredning3340
      @fredning3340 Před rokem

      @@WalvisYT Thank you for the insight! I’ll delve into PD radar a bit more see if it betters my performance, cheers!

  • @VVolfRAMM
    @VVolfRAMM Před rokem +1

    I wanted to buy F1C only to pass to the Mirage 2000 (it requires 5 planes, and I don't want to grind more than million XP in another Franch plane tree) but I have already F4S! I also have the talisman on F4J, I just love this dork) I am mad...

  • @jansatamme6521
    @jansatamme6521 Před měsícem

    Is the F4J still cookin'? Wondering if i should give PD radar missiles a try b4 rank 8, i really like the F8E cuz of radar missile.

  • @mightyzuis
    @mightyzuis Před rokem

    I personally would get for the cheaper repair cost and wing slats would definitely help in those occasional dog fights

  • @retrogaming6698
    @retrogaming6698 Před 10 měsíci

    I doubt you'll respond but how do you use that free-look radar on console whenever I switch to it on the F4-S for me it just doesn't do anything

  • @Kenkaneki-zu1vh
    @Kenkaneki-zu1vh Před rokem

    im only rank IV should i buy a jet to get a feel for jets since they are on offer right now?

  • @mollythe05sti
    @mollythe05sti Před 8 měsíci

    So I just got this plane on Xbox and I’m running into a problem where in rb battles the Aim7F does not want to start locking onto a target that has already been radar locked. But this works just fine in the test drive. Is there any way to fix this?

  • @illmaticTKD
    @illmaticTKD Před 4 měsíci +1

    the problem with the phantom is that was designed in the ERA of mig 17's but finds itself against mig 23's and su27's

  • @cookiecraze1310
    @cookiecraze1310 Před rokem

    2:48 i have just reached that point, slaughtering Mig 21's and Mig 23's does get boring after a while, but with 15 750lbs bombs you can kill 2 bases and then go and missile fight like normal. In a normal game with 1 or 2 kills you can get 4k rp, with bombings that's 6-8k. In a good game, you can get 12k rp with no premium (3 kills, 2 bases). Whomstever, you will get mobbed before even getting bombs out in 1/4 games.

  • @zmeu_md3831
    @zmeu_md3831 Před 7 měsíci +1

    had 80gaijij coins and bought f4s today, playing for 2 h and I'm very happy, watched this video and was with my friends on discord and in the second game i got 5 kills lmao, 2 F16 and 1 mig 29 and other f4s killed by me , those sparrow missiles on head on are OP, even had a few kills from 30km away lol

  • @SlicerJen
    @SlicerJen Před 11 měsíci

    For a second there, I thought I saw a colonial viper sticking out of that mach cloud.

  • @wehttam1461
    @wehttam1461 Před 5 měsíci

    I just bought it on sale (50% off). My first jet lmao, so im here learning more about jets

  • @spazerz
    @spazerz Před rokem +1

    Wallet warrior review: took me a bit to figure out 1 of the radar modes. A lot easier average 2 kills a game and earn a lot of RP

  • @zacharymarino8926
    @zacharymarino8926 Před 10 měsíci

    My mans with that sector PPI radar

  • @Deadlykurbo
    @Deadlykurbo Před 5 měsíci +1

    Helpfull video ngl

  • @adamhlil6298
    @adamhlil6298 Před 6 měsíci

    What would you recommend for console users such as me

  • @mightyzuis
    @mightyzuis Před rokem

    I would personally get it for the cheaper repair cost and wing do help a good bit

  • @andreastrautmann7419
    @andreastrautmann7419 Před 10 měsíci

    So to grind the aerial american tech tree, should I buy the F5E or the F4S ?

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Buy the F-5C, then Talisman the F-5E to grind rank 8.

  • @digitalfroggerguy
    @digitalfroggerguy Před 28 dny

    I’ve bought an embarrassing amount of planes and regretted most, if not every purchase.. aside from the phantom. Even after reaching top tier through research it’s still my best plane

  • @rtz4806
    @rtz4806 Před rokem

    here is a question, i have upto rank 6 US air i have fully researched a few of those planes, i have the F-5C and its just not my kind of plane i everytime i go to grind US air its like torture i hate the F-5C (i know its a good plane and people love it I just dont like it one bit) I fate the missiles it has, the constant uptiers were i dont have the weaponry to actually do really well in a uptier, its hard to explain, i do have great matches, i do love planes, i play the russian planes too, and i love those, i only get burnt out with the USSR planes, US it is just not fun anymore. ive stuck to russian ground lately, but as the F-4S came out i will admit ive been tempted. should i or should i not?

  • @christopherbernhardt
    @christopherbernhardt Před 3 měsíci

    I got 4 and 4 with both IR and Radar missiles and recently I have found that I'm pretty much averaging 2 kills. Daily ace or two. It's a fun plane, and if you're already top tier you will whoop ass in that tier

  • @samuelpancake4084
    @samuelpancake4084 Před rokem

    I got it and I don't regret it cus it's alot better then the others

  • @Bartholomew_TX
    @Bartholomew_TX Před 5 měsíci

    Yeahhh, real good planee, wink wink. Defineteley love going against SU27 and Gripens every game

  • @colson99
    @colson99 Před rokem

    1:15 “Now don’t get me wrong, you can still DONGfight using this plane…” poggers say less lmao

  • @nicolasmatheusfernandesdos6229

    Awesome review! I was surprised it pulls so well, but it's good to know I'm not missing anything unique with it!
    Would you recommend the 23ML with the same idea of grinding the tree if I already have the 25K? I'm almost grinding the Rank VI's necessary, but I'm much more inclined to talisman the SMT and later, when there's a sale, buy the Mirage F1.

    • @reavy6945
      @reavy6945 Před rokem

      Not sure if F1 is worth the money. Either i'm doing something wrong or the plane is shit but i'm having much easier time grinding with Mirage IIIE. F1 doesn't manouver well and radar looses target randomly.

    • @stormjet814
      @stormjet814 Před rokem

      @@reavy6945 dw, the f1 is just shit, you aren't going crazy

  • @roadrunner_noxe8793
    @roadrunner_noxe8793 Před rokem

    This jet feels very nice to steer

  • @IronicSM
    @IronicSM Před 6 měsíci

    I was thinking about the F4S but watching this made me realize I should just talisman the 4J, But the question is what is the best loadout to run for Bombing bases?

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před 6 měsíci

      You can run 6x500LBs on the wing pylons. 6 on each wing, 12 in total which is plenty to destroy a base. Thjs way you can still carry all your missiles and a gun pod as well.
      Keep in mind that there will be sales soon!

  • @ApokalyptikNM
    @ApokalyptikNM Před rokem +1

    Could do a video on the German MiG-21 Lazur M.. all MiG-21s catch my attention.. i still remember the MiG-21F-13 when it came out yeah it had 60 rounds but I basically circled the enemy staying above 1000kmh as they tried catch me and stalling and I looped over and killed them..
    I am at a major stand off between the F-4s and the MiG-21 Lazur M I love both equally but only going to pick one and would like a outside opinion

    • @ApokalyptikNM
      @ApokalyptikNM Před rokem

      Edit: putting bombs on the F-4s Phantom is really smart... I was on a a Ec map with the F-5c equipped with 2 missiles and 18x 250kg bombs, by the time I took off the F-4s wad already 3-4 clicks from me with the 6 radar guided missiles, the 4 9hs and bombs..
      Let's just say this a Tu-4 can take off faster than a F-5c loaded with bombs and missiles..

    • @stormjet814
      @stormjet814 Před rokem

      depends which tree you want

  • @thunderouspasta
    @thunderouspasta Před rokem

    thing is, with the f4s you get a much higher SL and a much lower rep cost in addition to the upgrades to the airframe itself

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před rokem +1

      Neither of those is worth the additional 50+ USD.

  • @ironyan1188
    @ironyan1188 Před rokem

    how did you look behind you while controling the plane ?

  • @RedVRCC
    @RedVRCC Před 4 měsíci

    Note: F-4S also gets HMD which is a huge upgrade but imo not worth $70. The lack of all aspect IR missiles, especially ones like R-73 makes it not as useful but in rear aspect you can still pull off some high off boresight shots. I have the MiG-29 and the HMD is definitely a great thing to have.

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před 4 měsíci

      The F-4J also has the HMD.

    • @RedVRCC
      @RedVRCC Před 4 měsíci

      @@WalvisYT wait it does? I thought it didn't. I saw someone say that the HMD was a benefit the F-4S gets over the 4J. Good to know at least. I'm a Russian main so I wouldn't know, sorry.

  • @fire_drake12.arc.24
    @fire_drake12.arc.24 Před rokem

    For those who enjoy the F-4J, this plane is still worth 70$ even if you have the entire tree, it's a premium. So you get to use your favorite airframe with the advantages of:
    1) when a new plane comes out you will research it fast.
    2) you will make a shit ton more money due to SL boost from it being a premium (without needing premium time)
    3) it's a premium so it's repair cost is actually sane and affordable for normal people. Basically impossible to go negative unless you literally head-on everyone and not fire a single thing and just die with the SL boost.
    4) you can be more relaxed and try new and fun things due to not needing to worry about losing SL. Basically you can have fun and not need to be a sweat.
    The only thing I can say isn't great about it is that the flares are upwards firing rather than downwards firing which IMO and in my logic would be better.

  • @monstermannietos2082
    @monstermannietos2082 Před 11 měsíci

    I do agree with tailsman for the F-4J but the F-4S would save me having to grind almost the top of the A-10 late tech tree bc Gaijin decided to bump up the F-14A to rank 8 so now I can’t unlock it u til I get the A-10 late so 1 the F-4S w the 17 day premium helps unlock the F-16 and counts as having a rank 7 fighter 🤷‍♂️

  • @Magnus_martin_lie
    @Magnus_martin_lie Před rokem

    I would recommend waiting to see if the F-4s comes on easter sale

  • @SoulsSilenced
    @SoulsSilenced Před 3 měsíci

    I’m currently in tier 4 my dream jet is the f15 and yes it’s a big price for a phantom but I’m getting it when there’s a sale

  • @TRtraybloxeey
    @TRtraybloxeey Před rokem

    So.
    - I don’t know yet how to use radar missiles
    - I have not started grinding the USA tree but am considering it for after I finish soviet
    - Getting tired of base grinding and want to use missiles instead
    Should I buy the F-4S?

    • @Donut833
      @Donut833 Před rokem

      If you’re willing to put the time in and understand how to get kills and more importantly how to defend radar missiles it’ll probably treat you well. Be patient as top tier can be a learning curve.

    • @TRtraybloxeey
      @TRtraybloxeey Před rokem

      @@Donut833 you’re right… I’ll wait until a sale I guess

    • @Donut833
      @Donut833 Před rokem

      @@TRtraybloxeey probably the best decision honestly. I love the idea of the F4S but then I remember that I have the F4J and it’s alright, not 70$ worth of alright. Being able to turn a little better won’t change that. However I grinded F5C for a long time and felt lost when I got in the F4J because of the radar.

  • @yuxihuang6852
    @yuxihuang6852 Před rokem

    might be a little late to the party but is it just me or does my f4j AND f4s not have pd modes? i tried switch it even but it doesn't ever work (I haven't used them in battle yet only in test drives)

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před rokem

      It 100% has PD modes

    • @yuxihuang6852
      @yuxihuang6852 Před rokem

      @@WalvisYT i tried figuring out just now yeah it has pdv and not regular pd can you tell me the difference, i'll press on the red button if you do ;)

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před rokem

      ​@@yuxihuang6852 Technically Pulse Doppler Velocity (PDV) and standard PD are slightly different, but it really doesn't matter for your ARB experience.
      Essentialy:
      PDV displays the difference in velocity and has no IFF.
      PD displays the range to target and has IFF.

    • @yuxihuang6852
      @yuxihuang6852 Před rokem

      @@WalvisYT it does feel a lot less consistent compared to the f16 radar tho but thanks

    • @WalvisYT
      @WalvisYT  Před rokem +1

      @@yuxihuang6852 PDV is easier to notch.

  • @devintaylor4365
    @devintaylor4365 Před rokem

    I will NOT fall for your tricks! I’m buying this plane! 😈

  • @jonathanmabardy
    @jonathanmabardy Před 10 měsíci

    how do you see all of the premiums? i can only see a few. the most advanced one I can see is the A-4

  • @emergencyroomandy9425

    Aim9H has better seeker than 9G, meaning it tracks better than the 9G at closer range near end of flight.

  • @vascoiraola5209
    @vascoiraola5209 Před rokem +3

    try the russian r27ER, those are currently the best bvr misiles in game. Anyways if you want the best FIGHTER premium in regards to SPEED, ARMAMENT, SUPERSONIC ACCEL AND SUBSINIC ACCEL and dogfight maneuverability. the mig23ML es th better option. But if u wanna stomp playas then get a 10.7 or 10.3 premium plane. such as f5c, kfir Kanard.

    • @gtmike916
      @gtmike916 Před rokem

      Funny thing is I can bomb a base and still get a kill with the F-5C and actually did it in a 12.0 lobby just for shits and giggles. Got over 12k RP just in that one match.

    • @machinech183
      @machinech183 Před rokem

      It's like you didn't even watch the video...

    • @vascoiraola5209
      @vascoiraola5209 Před rokem

      @@gtmike916 i get 25 to 30 as a dedicared fighter. but i say as long as u having fun it's all good

    • @vascoiraola5209
      @vascoiraola5209 Před rokem

      @@gtmike916 kill fighters, then hit ground pillboxes and med tanks with ground belts. u get More that way than with bombs 🙏🏿

  • @farresteslo2561
    @farresteslo2561 Před 26 dny

    should i buy this or f5c

  • @fearlesspanda8564
    @fearlesspanda8564 Před 4 měsíci

    id use it to grind usa to top tier is it worth it?

  • @BIGmlems
    @BIGmlems Před rokem

    I use this jet only in assualt air arcade due to lack of experience, is there a way to get multiple radar locks and not have all 6 aim 7's hit the same bomber, because currently thats what is happening and am prefering the mavericks on the a-10 more than the aim 7's

    • @machinech183
      @machinech183 Před rokem +1

      ... The aircraft isn't capable of tracking multiple targets while locked, so no. Every missile fired after the first was basically a waste (unless that first misses somehow).

    • @BIGmlems
      @BIGmlems Před rokem

      @@machinech183 gotcha

  • @ComfortsSpecter
    @ComfortsSpecter Před 5 měsíci

    My Little F4!

  • @chin-chin213
    @chin-chin213 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Editing in this video go brrrrr, (meaning its fire)

  • @asabryan579
    @asabryan579 Před rokem

    Maybe not in the game but the Phantom might be the best historical proven jet dogfighter. Also holding the only supersonic gun kill in history.

    • @sebastiannelson6355
      @sebastiannelson6355 Před rokem

      Pretty sure the F-15 has the best dogfight record. Hard to beat, no defeats.

  • @Bartholomew_TX
    @Bartholomew_TX Před 5 měsíci

    Sometimes I don't carry guns, not because of flight preformance, it is because it can make me carry more rockets

  • @audible_
    @audible_ Před 4 měsíci

    Can also kinda use it for both fighter and bomber at the same time

  • @matheuskg123
    @matheuskg123 Před rokem +1

    perfect video tbh. bought the plane

  • @bouncii7660
    @bouncii7660 Před rokem

    Is the F4s still worth it even if i already have the Av8 and the F5c? Nah right?

  • @Peepeepoopoo77798
    @Peepeepoopoo77798 Před 4 měsíci +1

    To everyone here i dont recommend getting the phantom unless you need to grind the usa tree i recommend getting the mig23 ml i got to rank 5 from rank 2 in like 1 week of grinding with the mig23ml