Using the MIG-21MF to cleanse ARB of premium vehicles
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- čas přidán 3. 03. 2023
- Let me know if I should make more plane reviews like this.
I personally really enjoy making the funni / cringe wannabe Zetaris War Thunder montages, and I will keep making those. But I am thinking about also making videos like this more often. But honestly idk, so feel free to tell me. - Hry
finally avenging all the players who have no countermeasures and got killed by a10's and su25
Thats me😂
I'll never forget the time a tornado said Aim-9L's were too easy to dodge. "Just turn off your afterburner and turn" only to eat that exact missle about 10 seconds later. I guess he didn't turn off his afterburner and turn.
thank you.
(i fly US bomber tree AKA F-105D AKA pain)
@@De_cool_dude gigachad
@@chrisrosales4268 that’s funny af. Like a tornado ever has a chance to dodge a 9l, it burns so hot (even without afterburner) that a rear aspect launch is virtual death 9 times out of 10.
Protip:
If your plane doesn't have flares but is capable of carrying unguided rockets, bring them in as they act as rudimentary flares(they fool 9Ls too!).
When a missile is flying towards you, throttle down and shoot some off and 9/10 times the missile will follow after the rocket(doesn't work if the missile is within 1-2km rear-aspect).
I hope this helps anybody who sees this!!
No rockets don't fool AIM-9Ls lol, i clapped many smartass rocket F-1 users with my event tornado and i tried to do the rocket trick with T-2 and AIM-9Ls from A-6Es still track my plane even after pressing i, turning, and firing all rockets.
It does flare R-60Ms and AIM-9Es though
@@UnsungAces i believe it depends on the plane, i could rocket-flare 9Ls from A-10s and A-6Es easily but i imagine if i tried it in a jet with a hotter burning engine, it probably would go as you said lol
Also won't crap about aim 9c's I found out recently.
@@UnsungAces It does kinda work. It’s somewhat hit and miss, but I have done it with the Harrier GR1 to aim 9Ls
@@koolkranny well aim 9c is radar
For all who don't know this... If you land without any damage, you don't have to wait for repair and rearm time. You can leave your plane as soon as you come to a full stop and spawn back in immediately. Cheers
Will minus a little bit amount of tickets
@@SCATXXIV Yeah, if you're the last one on the team, you don't hang in the lobby and choosing a different loadout, but spawn back as soon as possible. Otherwise the game might think you're inactive.
Last time I did that I died. Maybe they fixed it.
you don't even need to be stopped, anything below 30kph will work. if you time it so the 3 second J-out ends right as you dip below that speed you can get back in the air ridiculously quick, again assuming you're untouched.
you also cant be out of fuel when you do this otherwise it wont let you spawn back in
When a-10 spam flares I always say “you can flare my missiles but you can’t flare these guns” then I proceeded to rip apart the a-10 as it flies straight spamming flares
I love demolishing overconfident assholes in undertiered planes with my a10. Either that or let them lawn dart. Especially effective on mig21s
Yeah its been hilarious setting a10s ablaze with my sabre while they're flaring
As a Sim enjoyer, I can confirm we had a stroke while watching that landing
RB guy...just an budget AB player
whats wrong?
@@AmelpsXett Everything is wrong. Everything.
@@stripes7558whats wrong exactly
Pleeaaasseee explain@@stripes7558
Fun tip from someone who uses the R60 quite a bit: While the R60 is only really good for around 2km in a rear aspect against anything going quick, the missile does very well to about 3.5km from a side or above aspect launch, with around 3km for these types of launches being optimal. Also when trying to kill anything going well above supersonic, avoid rear aspect launches above around 1km. The R60 is quick but not fast if yk what I mean.
i see ur experienced so can you give me some tips for su-25k? i bought it a while ago and came back to the game and idk how to play it now
@@noos3ba550su25 can be played as a base bomber/ Ground unit destroyer or crappy support fighter, base bombing/ Ground unit destroying is kinda boring and maybe infuriating but it's kind of steady in rp income, the best setup for this I believe is (r60m-500kg bomb-500kg bomb- s8k rocket pod- gun pod) put the bombs on the far pylons which are next to the r60m and put the gunpods next to the fusalge (only 1 on each wing) and next to it the rocket pod, I recommend only 1 gunpod as 2 gunpods is overkill but 1 gun pod on each wing is great because it is a secondary if you set up seprate binds for them, you simply go to base which hopefully isn't stolen by an su7 or something and bomb it then killing Ground units with rockets and once out of rockets with guns and r60m any planes you see for self defense or shoot it at ai planes once you want to rtb, you need to be mindful of enemies at all times such as a10 and f5c and harrier that will either snipe you with missiles or just gun you down while doing this, but if successful it is good amount of rp, or you can be the shitty fighter where you try to catch people speedrunning to bases and r60m them like Milan or f4c which don't have flares but if they have flares be sure that they don't see you like if you went to space and don't see you, after the base bombing frenzy you can try to support your teammates or try to sneak up on a6e/a10 and gun them down but be careful of other a10s behind them that are still flying to battle, when engaging a10 try to be way above so that they can't reach you because you have both speed and climb advantage, a10 outturn you tho so don't dogfight them just boom and zoom, you are kinda doomed if you see f5c or mig21mf because they are way better than you in mobility and engine so try to somehow make them overshoot and try to hit them, if you spot flareless plane just r60m them if the missile will hit, easy kill from a pro gamer, anyways yeah idk if I left something feel free to ask I suppose
@@noos3ba550 thats how you do it, buy something first, look up guides after you realize you suck second
:D
add in the Mig 21SMT and the F-8E into the list
the three horsemen of sealclubbing premiums
The real question is smt or f8e? Which is better, I have both and I THINK smt is better because of missiles and airplanes preforamance and is still better than f8e when uptiered
@@CrustaceanAllergyEnjoyer SMT is better simply because of higher top speed and more acceleration
It's literally always a good idea to flare when dodging bullets in an A10. You can look forward and focus on dodging and dump flares in case you get missiles fired at you. The thing had hundreds of flares lol. You can afford to use them in situations like that in order to focus more on dodging.
I have to add, at high altitudes (6000m+), the R3R’s paired with the Sapphire radar set allows 8km+ head on shots while you are moving at M1.3. This intro to BVR is rewarding, even if the enemy flares (no chaff :D).
the bozo deleter
Except us MiG 21S players, we have it hard with no flares and shitty missiles facing enemies with countermeasures and 30g all aspect missiles.
@@chris.76256 Mig21S is fine, I have almost a 3/1 KD in it, you just need to climb and use the R3R before diving on the last A10 arriving to the battle and run through all of them before they see you
@@meerbee2910 i agree, i have a relatively high kd compared to most other vehicles i own, but no flares is hard man.
@@chris.76256 yeah, really unfun to completely get away from the battle just to avoid 30g missile spam. I love the plane but hate the opponents, almost never get into a real fight because I'll just get missile'd if I even think about slowing down
9:24 If you haven’t sustained any damage you can leave the plane without waiting for your repair/reload timer to finish and it’ll let you instantly spawn back in. Helps to avoid being strafed and all around just get off the ground quicker
Hey I watch your vids :D
does this mean any damage would cancel you out of the fight or are some non-critical damage is allowed as long as you land on the airfield?
The Slovak airforce camo looks really good.
Love to see people use this skin despite a few of it's flaws, thanks for using it!
5:18 "some people think they might outsmart me, maybe, but I have yet to see someone outsmart bullet"
i have the smt and ohh man its by far the most funnest jet ive ever played, i have a 5kd on it. every other planes is either missing something or its in a br where theres better planes agaisnt it.
I personally prefer the SMT over the MF as the extra engine power is a life saver at times, especially when the initial reversal of an F5C does not go to plan and you either have to GTFO or at least reset the fight - the MF is just extremely lacking in that department, ESPECIALLY coming from an SMT going back to the MF you find yourself wanting some more thrust when afterburning.
The guns, as you said, are honestly amazing, the stall control you retain is incredible, especially with landing flaps you can dab on those haters for hours before even thinking about falling out of the sky - 10.3 is the perfect BR for the plane, one of the few jets still fun to play, and honestly, one of the only reasons I still play this game - everything else this game has to offer is just getting worse every patch with no signs of getting better any time soon
Yeah, SMT is hands down my favourite aircraft right now, such a joy to fly and you get to dunk on premiums. One of the few aircrafts I have 3.0ish K/D with lol. My only complainant is that a competent F-5 player will dunk on you, or at least make it impossible to kill him. Fortunately most F-5 players are uhhh, not very good :)
@@m1sz3lpl24 yes, F-5Cs are the bane of my existence in the SMT - there's this power equilibrium between the planes, if you get on his six and he does not go into a sustained rate fight he is dead, if he is on your six and you have to avoid his guns, you are dead. If you try to reverse him but do not kill him within the first overshoot, you are also practically dead. Same goes for him though, if you do not airbreak and instead go up and over he is boned too.
While the SMT isn't my best K/D plane with "only" a 4 K/D that is still mighty solid lol.
@@mr_confuse I'll be honest I mosty try to avoid directly dogfighting F-5s as its a bit too much of a risk, if you screw it your one chance you're dead. I usually just extend away, if I can. Most annoying matches are where that once F-5 just won't stop chasing you and the entire match is wasted, as you can't really do anything semi safely other than extend away ever so slowly xD
@@m1sz3lpl24 lmao, so true....i can't understand that mind set, if i lnow i can't catch someone, i'm not gonna stick behind him ad eternum!
(i call those players Donkeys, cause they must have blinkers making them see only ahead ! )
Never liked the shape of this aircraft until I fell in love with Delta's and saw this in the Hungarian AF museum at Szolnok. I love it now and this was a great vid even though I don't play WT.
10:26 AI planes can spot enemy aircrafts
Your videos are very fun to watch. Keep up the splendid work!
the major thing with the mig-21MF other than the frame, engine , and r-60's is it gets flairs . many jets would be amazing at 10.3 like the 10.3 viggen in the Swedish tree but it dosnt get flairs and is limited to 2 air-to-airs that arnt even as good as the r-60. the 10.3 viggen used them in real life and its modeled in the aircraft and to see something like this at the same br makes me want then to either give the viggen flairs or lower it to 10.0
that viggen does get flares
@@theneef174 if you sacrifice the guns which isnt worth it at 10.3 it should have both
@@RLXxEpic just use one flare pod and one gun silly
I kinda wish the F1 could get flares in exchange for it's gun.
Yea, mig 21mf is my favorite jet. That sweet spot of speed acceleration, first turn rate and r60 is great. Also being 10.3 it dont have to face any top tier bullshit. Worst thing can happen is 11.3 f4-s with aim7f but easy dodge is sufficient for his radar. Overall great plane
I love this plane and also the MiG-21SMT, and contrary to 99% of the playerbase I take 2x R60 and 2x R-3R, I start the game climbing and at altitude I can consistently get kills with the radar R-3s some times even at low altitude you can get some front aspect kills with them, they get a lot of players off guard, plus its way more fun when you get kills with the radar 10g missiles lol.
Honestly even with the SPSK I bring 1 R60 and 2 R3Rs, they are really useful sometime
I always carry one r3r for the first kill on high altitude it really is a Game changer
That f-5 got pulverized at the start 😂
Another banger of a Walvis video.
keep up the good content!
The 21 and F8 do quite a nice job of garbage disposal
I have finally found the Spookston of planes pls keep making videos
love the explanation you provided while the game played, would love to see this with some other jets like the kfir :)
I feel that Tornado, sometimes even with airbrakes and reverse thrust it barely decelerates
It weighs more than your average light tank. It has so much inertia it just never slows down
@@WalvisYT gaijin should just watch irl Tornado videos, they slow down just fine
its an aircraft that actually needs you to land like an actual plane ,
Now play the F-1 with 0 countermeasures at 10.3
You overlook the radar missiles. I love playing the version of this in the USSR tree, and at high altitudes you can joust with most people using the R-3R because many people just ignore chaff because they don't expect radar missiles
Honestly, (from my experience) the premium a-10s and su-25s sometimes cancel each other out in matches so the non-premium vehicles can play the game in peace.
The hero we need and deserve!
"Can't flair bullets asshole' is a common phraseology used among my friend group when we kill A-10's
As a fairly non-serious sim player, I absolutely approve of that landing. 10/10.
Dammn he laughed at that tornado dirty 😂😂
Cheers from a fellow Mig-21MF player from Slovakia for using Slovak skin. :)
I bought myself the premium SPS K and i love that plane. R-60 at 10.0 are just unfair. Im on my way to the MF and SMT and cant wait to get them
Yak-38m has r-60 at 9.3
Absolutely my favourite plane and reason why I love it is for this exact reason my friend
Planes get spotted when IA spot them. Kind of nice if you ask me
I would love to see a vid on the squadron me-262. been using that plane to grind a lot and would love to see some tips and gameplay for it.
the transition at 3:10
so good
Tornado is a plane that can catch you completly off guard if your not used to its landing habbits
Thanks can’t wait to use this in 2.7
I've played a LOT of the 21MF but since the update I've been having horrible luck in it.. 2 months ago i could go 3/4 kills on 4 missiles but people flare much more now and it almost feels like the 10.3MM got shafted by the 12.0 increase,much more 11.3 games.
And yes, I know I know, skill issue :D
Reminds me of back in the day when I did the same with the MF back when the harrier gr.1 was moved to 10.0
F8E is great for this too with its AIM9-C radar missile.
10:20 Im pretty sure this happened because some friendly AI on the map can actually spot enemies.
You just got yourself a new sub your good
Y'all know you were thinking of Samuel L. Jackson saying motherfucker when you read MIG 21 MF, and if you haven't, then now you have.
I remember the days where the MIG-21MF was the top tier with no countermeasures. loved to dodge AIM-9J's and AIM-7's and watching the enemy team be baffled. we didn't even get the MIG-21Bis soon after Russia either, they added the MIG-23M before they added the MIG-21bis-SAU to the German tech tree. at least made top tier Air German players reliable.
100% agree. The mig21mf is probably my best plane to play, ive gotten 9 kills in a match once and consistently get 3 with the r60s. The guns are also just spot on. Ontop of this the wings never rip, unlike the russian SMT hahahha
Hey king look! You dropped this 👑
Mig-21 is absolutely based
Same thing with the SMT. True premium seal clubbers.
I love the MF, such an amazing aircraft, it is the bane of premium existence and my personal SL grinder
I have a free talisman for it too. My second most played vehicle after the F4E (that was my go to like 2 years ago lmao)
I miss the days where it was phantoms vs mig21's
10:24 i think he became visible by being close to a bot.
I also use an order to block any possible blind hunt/avenger from the enemy, and if they use one while i'm still on the runway, i'll just "J" out and get back in to "send" the order to the other side,
Overshooting the runway with the tornado is easy if it comes with a bit too much speed since it has no chute and reverse thrust is not as effective
how do this and the russian mig21 SMT differ? they look the same on paper, also what is the giant pod on the bottom of the plane?
The SMT is objectively better, as it gets roughly 1000kgf more thrust. It does weight 100kg more, but that is insignificant compared to the extra thrust.
Pod underneath is the countermeasures pod.
@@WalvisYT ahhh OK thnx, I'll stick with ussr tech tree then
10.3 is the most fun br for air rb the f8 is probably my favorite aircraft in game
hey, which crates do I need to open to get that skin your using?
I own 1 premium American jet
But since I didn’t want to ruin anybody’s fun and I loved the insanity of the payload, it’s an A-6 Intruder and I load 28x500 lb bombs. I use it to annihilate convoys and ground targets to grind out other planes
Its like watching someone analysing a chess match
Yo that Mig-21 with Slovak insigmas look sick!
Edit:typo
You should also try to MiG-21SMT. It’s basically the same thing but with a better engine. Same BR too
Of course it has an excellent thrust to weight ratio, the MiG 21 is basically a giant engine with wings and a cockpit attached.
wonder if i was in any of these dogfights
I really like your livery that you used since it is a slovak air force livery, and of course im slovak
I did the last crafting event with such ease using the 21SMT just dumping on premium players. So satisfying
Holy shit Soviet missiles track like crazy, almost right off the rail too!
"Tries to flare my guns."
Or just going slow as hell and pre-flaring to not get hit by some unseen missile. But sure, you're the only player in the world who knows guns can't be flared.
I only use the premium A-10 as a turn fighter to grind up to the 10.0 mark. I hate using missiles as I find it more enjoyable to rate fight
That last shot with the cannons was DISGUSTING.
Is the gun on this thing similar to that of the Mig-19S?
Okay, so the thing I learned from this video is that in order to kill an F5 you have to get lucky... Great.
Finally, someone who made a good fucking WT content
Currently grinding it and with just the r3rs I am struggling so hopefully the r60 will change that
I got this thing and i'm about to get R60s, please explain to me how to get over the horrible energy retention. maybe it gets way better when i get the upgrades but rn i suffer with this thing, to the point it feels like the MiG19S feels like a straight up better plane. Whenever i enter any fight at all, i get 2 good sharp turns and then i'm an easy kill. This results in me being forced to run away from the enemy 99% of the time, which i hate having to do. maybe i'm just terrible at this game, maybe this problem is solved by the time you spade the aircraft, but rn it feels like the 19S is just better in every way, even considering it doesn't have missiles or flares or a proper radar, or at that even any ammo.
*Says the R-60 is the best IR missile*
The R-60M: 👁👄👁
I've wanted this thing for a while, just a few planes away, cant get myself to grind it out.
"What's the MF stand for?"
"Muthafucka"
You should check you the kfir c2 or canard. Imo those are even more fun because of the turnrate and speed
10.3 is a perfect br for this and the SMT
With this beast I always bring two R3r for head on people never expect it with MF then ofc 2 R-60’s legit best load out.
Same as SMT, they must move up to 10.7 for sure!
Protip if you have missiles and are about to getting headon by a missile you can often shoot a missile to intercept it I’ve shocked a lot of a-10 and su-25 players with this one and gotten kills of the same person
Aim9ls on the Mig21MF feel like R60s with flares now. Its great being able to actually survive an Aim9L after launch.
What are some other aircraft that have the holy trinity of performance?
I think this is the first time on youtube somebody said anything positive about GSh-23.
I got used to the Gsh-23, so I don't find it that hard to aim anymore. In general I really like Russian guns; low ammo, low velocity, but extremely good damage.
fun fact: this plane can, even when your wings are ripped off can still fly and turn (only a bit) perfectly fine
the tornado has no parachute, brakes that don't help enough, and I have a feeling he reverse thrusted instead of braked anyways
The landing bugged me ngl
It's a controller thing(launching both missiles) if you continue holding the heat seeking button/buttons it'll fire automatically but if you hold it for a second or so after the first missile launch and theres still a lock it'll fire the other missile ._.
I have the SMT and put a Talisman on it. Great grinder that doesn't see top tier now that they pushed the BR up!
i will still land like that in sim making high banking turns, the only place i dont is DCS
Sim players do the same shit with those landings at the halfway mark
Is there any differences between mig 21 mf and smt when it comes to performance?
The SMT is objectively better as it gets a much more powerful engine
What belt did he use when he ripped off the wing of a a10
im thinking of bying either the mig 23 in USSR tech tree or the mig 21 in the german tech tree, but i dont know wich one. I dont care about the tech tree i just want the mig 29. i play tanks as USA and germany. sooo what do u think, and wich is best
23ML, by a solid mile :)
And here I am, flying like a trown brick. Fucking hell...
Do you have vertical targeting on? Ur aim is crazy
What about the top tier MiG premium one? Are they similar?
Do you mean the Lazur-M? That one is way worse, as 11.0 is terrible