Tactics: Bf 109
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- čas přidán 14. 03. 2023
- The 1930s introduced a lot of legendary aircraft that were active during WW2, and the aircraft of the Bf.109 series are, without any doubt, among the most recognisable vehicles of the era. Today, we’re going to discuss the effective ways you can use these iconic fighters in battle!
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By the way, one good 109 pilot is deadly, but 2 working together with bait and switch tactics, can singlehandedly take down an entire team
I've done that before in matches where we have 4 bombers and then there's me as the only fighter, but when i had another bf109 temmate working with me we annihilated the enemy team since they are too used on fighting matches where there are 4 german bombers and shitty german Fighters
@@SilentVoid_ There's no such thing as a shitty German fighter lol
@@SilentVoid_ That does sound quiet the fun macth
@@sethjansson5652 I meant the shitty players who play the fighters lol
I’ve outturned a Spit LF in a 109 k4 before. The kid was complaining how the 109s r too op while he was wepping with raised flaps during the whole engagement.
Man is this gonna be a series? this is gonna be so fun
It probably should. A lot of new planes have been added. Hence why they’re repeating certain machines that have already been mentioned in previous videos.
Like barrel roll series
I know right
I know right 😊
Always has been. 🔫
The best model for me was the G-6. 100 air kills and about 50 ground kills. Once I got the K-4, I struggled.
same, G6 was the last 109 I had much success on
I prefer the F4 feels more maneuverable
the k4 is amazing but the last time i played war thunder was 3yrs ago how is the k4 still fairing in air rb?
@@Allwin-lz6yj you need a bit of experience to use it, it can be difficult against things like spitfires
@@yoyodada230 still at 5.7?
The f-4 was my favorite (mainly cuz of the ammo) i love flying it and can stand my ground in a dogfight and sending bombers back to the hanger with the gun pods is always fun
Same
Pretty sure the g2 trop is more powerful it also has the gun pods as well
@@hekmatyar4476 true I just like the feeling of the f4 more I’ve played it more then the g2 so experience wise I’d do better in the f4
Same, its got good speed and maneuverablility but still has some amazing firepower, especially with the pods.
@@Fox_of_War yep if u focus bombers use the gunpods but if u wannna do boom and zoom that 1 20mm with 200 rounds will be enough just aim for the engine and wing spars close to the fuselage that’s where I get the most quick kills
Ooh this is going to be a really awesome series to help people, wonderful work!
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I've always used the F-4. Just seems to be the best thing for me to use for air and ground realistic battles. Since I flew it the most and learnt how to use it properly I could easily hold my own. Love the cannons and I practically mastered bombing with it.
Amazing video! I would really enjoy to see a tactics video on fw190 aircraft.
head on attacks and boom and zoom....also side climb from the start unless you air spawn
BOOM AND ZOOM
I think there's another one fw-190 but the wing is longest
when someone gets on your tail.. DANCE
Wep to climb
Love the 109
109 my love
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Anton Yudintsev, general. Director of Gaijin Ent., the developer of the military game War Thunder, commented on this important statement: “We are very pleased that the Ministry of Defense and the Government of the Russian Federation today recognize the importance and enormous potential of the gaming industry and share our goals and objectives.”👈
I love flying the E-4 or E-7/U2. Mastering the use of flaps turns it into an unstopable opponent, sure it's also the canons that are hard to hit with, but also very rewarding if you know how to use them.
Back in time when I started playing war thunder turning in the 109s was like making a stone turn in the air 😂 flying a 109 and a 190 was almost the same. I was so happy when I noticed the changes they did to them several years ago. My favourite 109 is the G6, because it has the coolest paint design after 280 victories.
I personally love the BF-109 F-4 and F-1 they are beautiful aircraft. The amount of kills is insane and their history is just as rememberable
One of the better videos you guys have posted. Very informative.
Since I am getting used to my Italian BF109 G-2, while using gun pods, I will take this advice under consideration and practice.
My biggest problem is aiming and landing a hit. My German Yak 1B, only has a fraction of the rounds as the BF109 G-2, but I usually only need one or two bursts to shoot an enemy down, that is how accurate and fast-travelling those cannons and Mg's are on that plane. That makes a huge difference. It's frustrating when I waste 1/3rd of my rounds on a plane while using the BF109 G-2... especially when I know I could take out planes easier with my Yak1b.
Good Video.💯
You need to lead the Bf 109's MG 151 cannon more. Also there is no Italian Bf 109 G-2, you're probably talking about the Hungarian Bf 109 G-2 (which was put into the Italian tree)
It the mg 151s are too slow for you then good luck with the mk 108s
@@MZIH The ME262 guns. Yes, I know. I am not a fan of those either.
Favorite planes for guns: Yak1B. IL2 Strumovik. P47D-16-RE.
I have videos on all the ME262s. And on the BF109 G-2.
@@victory7999 Sure.
The G14/AS is a big improvement, It's very good in mixed battles and can hold its own with some skill in ARB.
my favorite Bf 109 is the Bf 109 K-4 because of the 30mm MK 108 it shoots the deadliest bullets they called Minengeschosse (minebullets) u have to only read the name and u know what gonna happend to the enemys and the other favorite is the bf 109 G-14 because it was one of the most flown Bf from Erich Hartmann (Bubi) The Blond Knight of Germany)
the 30mm rounds literally roll out the end of the barrel, you'd be better off throwing the bullets at them
you only have to read the name to know hahah thas so funny and so true
if the target flies faster than 200 km / h and maneuvers even a little, you will never hit with a potato gun 108.
@fimasstet89 I get about 2 fighter kills per load with my 30mm. I prefer it over the 20 v both fighters and bombers. You have to lead enough against bombers and be close enough against fighters
@@fimasstet89 if your in a position where u need to turn for your enemies u think u need to question your decisions
Great video! I would also love to see a tactics video on American and Soviet aircraft as well.
@blueflames6961 find out yourself noobie
@@rachelabrantegil662 right
@@rachelabrantegil662 bros mad
@@rachelabrantegil662as idiot as it sounds or you may think, some players (specially rookies) don't know how to properly use their vehicles. Yes, playing and testing is good but without knowledge is pointless. E.g. P51's pulling non sense verticals after dives, BFs and FWs wasting energy, Zeros trying to turn fight at 15k feet and so on
@@aragorn_ whats with zeros turn fighting at 15k ft?
The Bf. 109 Z is quite nice even though it's missing some bomb options, like a pair of 500kg or a single 1000kg bomb for the cost of the wing mounted 30mm canons
i cant find it
@@_Su57_ It is only temporairly in the shop if you are lucky, it got removed only a few months after being released
@@danielprovin3855 yea, i want it so bad.
@@Fox_of_War It was temporarily available for purchases few months ago (around 6?). It is quite cool but honestly it's not a hugely capable aircraft. It is good at intercepting though and its pretty fast
t that never exists and is sience fiction.
Bf109 e is my absolute favorite to fly. Not to overpowered where you mop the enemy team not to underpowered where you lose every dogfight. It's just right. At least for me on Sim mode
Nice video but can you make a similar video on the corsair family? Thanks
When i stopped playing WT 10 years ago, my favorite was the HE 112 latest model, 129 kills in „Simulator Mode“, but i switched to IL2 series and DCS cuze i wanted a more realistic aircraft and a clickable cockpit
This series will be amazing, also love the choice of music
I recently became a BF109 enjoyer. I only got up to the F4 so far but its probably my favorite out of all of them. Imo the F4 is the peak variant just for its br range.
I also like the Sakeen, it isn't as good as the other 109s save for the guns but at its br and the fact that it's the only rank 4 plane at 3.3, If you fly it right it will get work done and will print out SL for you
109s have been my go to for most of the time I have been playing. I always preferred the F-4 and in my opinion it's the best plane in the game for getting a high volume of kills in air RB. The big trick is to keep your speed up, and when dogfighting keep the plane in a vertical loop. Almost everything you face will struggle to keep up, and nothing will be able to cut far enough into your turn circle to get a shot off, so long as you keep in the vertical. I'd highly recommend performing this tactic with 15-20 minutes of fuel and without the 15mm gun pods. If you have a buddy flying an F-4 as well you can bait and switch large groups of enemies by doing this. 2 decent Bf-109 pilots can destroy an entire enemy team just by having one 109 pull enemies up and having the other shoot them down as they prop hang. Simply swap back and forth as targets present opportunities for quick kills. They can't climb up after you, they can't run away, and they can't energy fight you when you eventually come down for the remaining few. The last time one of my wingmen and I tried this we both scored 5 kills in just a few minutes.
i honestly really like the E varients, good at their br but the 20mm struggle a little
The Avia had a Jumo engine from a bomber, and the prop to go with it. As a result the torque of the engine, and mass of the prop killed a lot of pilots by rolling the plane at high RPM.
i think the jumo engines were he111 engines
My favorite BF 109 is the one that doesn't attack me. :)
Nice video and beautiful footage of airplanes.
Q: What are the seven Planes on the papers on the Tactical briefing screen when you enter a battle? My best Guess is the A6M, Bf 109, P-51, MiG 17, and maybe a B-17 but i have no idea what the other 2 are.
I enjoy the F series, imo they are the most all round 109’s relative to their br
My favourite is Bf-109 F1..good at climbing..boom and zoom tactics very good with this plane,maneuverability really not bad..once i killed 5 enemy planes with it(even tho we lost)
I prefer the K-4. It's so agile and a great dogfighter with astonishing roll rate thanks to it's large rudder. It also has the best performance of the 109s at low altitude so after coming from Russian props feeling myself going easy in with the K-4 was relieving. Too bad it got power crept by US super props.
@@kingghidorah8106 ehh not too bad, super props are the reason they lost
@@plutoidrepublic2765 no, in fact those super props didn't even see war in real life + were prototypes in the most part. The reason Germany lost was due to shortages and economy flops leading to worse quality and less quantity while the rest of nations were progressing. Russia peaked with the La-7 being even better than the tempest mk2 if it weren't for the proximity of the engine to the pilot making the cockpit quite hot.
The Bf109 F-4 is my personall favorite.
Nice series! Can't wait for more!
The G-6 is the best, the other ones usually just get uptiered against aircraft that are 2 years newer than it and much faster
the first b1 bf109 it's my favorite but the g2 troop was a love when you learn it.
@1:00 yes it is, i do it all the time. all the way up through rank 4. you just have to hit the engines or the pilot
My favorite BF-109 is the Italian G-14. And then the G.56 if you can count that as a 109 with the engine and guns 😆
I had a nightmare match with the Sakeen yesterday in arcade and also the first time i saw the aircraft,...no matter how many planes we sent, we only got burning trails at the end of each engagement....that guy scored up 12 kills in 2-3 mins....hell he killed me 4 times...at the end he had 20 kills and I dont even know how many assists....He was killed only once that too when we had 7 fighters chasing him(me being one of them)....and then he had a backup Sakeen cause why not....
Playing with the 109 E-3 right now. Love having the two 20mm cannons to go after bombers. Need to improve my Z&B tactics. Loaded with a single 500 lb. bomb to score that easy early base hit.
The BF-109K4 is my favorite because I've used it's proximity shells in the cannons many times in GRB to secure air Superiority
it doesn't have proximity shells.
The E-4 is the best, IMO. Good performance at all speeds and has the engine power to match. You can dogfight pretty much anything in it and come out on top.
Also, any plants to add the Bf109 T? It was used in service, albeit not on a carrier as it was intended to.
the people who know, know :)
Love the video but got to ask, when is the Bf 109-Z going back into store? would love to buy it or at least try it out
I feel like the 109 F4s 15mm cannons are SUPER underrated.. taking them into both mixed and air RB battles is super nice having the extra sets of guns under your wings causes massive damage to enemy aircraft and its good for bomber hunting.
My favorite is the 109 E-3. I’ve got well over 100 kills. I earned both skins from Simulator Battles using a controller. She’s fought ai yak 1’s in Afghanistan and returned to base victorious.
1. Bf 109 E4 hands down my most favorite. The looks, the speed, the maneuverability. I even scored a win once against 2 enemy spitfires. I wish it would have more regular and marketplace skins. Only 1 default is available, sadly.
2. Bf 109 K4 coupled with the Papagei Staffel skin. I take it out often in GRB and completely decimate enemy CAS.
3. Bf 109 F4 used to be my favorite before I found out the greatness of E4 and grinded out the K4. Though the engine overheats pretty fast.
Remember when I started playing WT, I actually had to read up on an IRL manual and watch several hours of instruction videos from WT youtubers to do well in Bf 109's. They are hard to play planes and even harder to master, but playing them is very satisfying.
One gripe with the video and with Gaijin. The G10 and G14 are virtually identical to G6. They are not faster, only difference is a slight variation in geometry. All 3 should be the same BR at 4.7.
I personally find 109s boring to play once you get acquainted with their pace, more "defensive" planes like Spitfires or Yak-9T (NOT Yak-3) feel more rewarding to do good in.
G6 in game is early g6 with 1400hp+
Late g6 had 1800hp later called g14to standardize the 1 million g6 models
none of them overheat if you use MEC
The F4 is incredible especially if equipped with the extra 2x 20mm wing mounted. I fly more turn fighting vs boom and zoom and have over 200 kills. However, flying at night or overcast dark situations, the lighted instruments in the K4 were a godsent.
The f4 only has 15mm gunpods
@@Attack_The_D_Point I am sure you are correct however, in IL2, the option to equip with 2x 20mm pods under the wings is occasional, not always, offered and I add. Might be an error but, the extra guns are very welcomed...hahaha
Gretings , I like it , my favorite is Bf - 109 G6 , thanks for video !
FIX 20mm HEF on the cannons for props!! Japanese and British cannons do next to zero damage ffs
This
Yes
Still waiting
Ironic how they make a video on 109s when MG 151s (and Swedish Akans) are the only functioning sub-30mm cannons.
I think the f4 model is the best. I can finish the matches with 3 kills almost without being touched with 15 mm guns. You can also use a different tactic than the one in the video. The tactic is to advance without ascending, without being too far in the middle of the map. if the opposing team has an attack plane, first make sure it has no protection and then take it down. then attacking other attack aircraft or any low-flying aircraft if they are available, and climbing into the main battle if not. If you're not good at dogfight this tactic might work for you, but not in all situations.
I love the G-6/F-1, in Ground RB and the F-4/E-1 in Air-RB. They are deadly and can destroy anything.
The 109 K4 is incredible in GRB as a CAS and open top tank denyer. Couple that with another K4 flown by a friend with good communication and the enemy team will never be able to CAS anyone.
Favorite: Bf-109 E-1, first ACE pilot.
The Friedrich models are the best.manoverable and pack a punch on short distance shooting
This is actually very helpful
The bf.109 in the Italian tech tree is pretty fun
Man I love the Me-109, I know it wasnt the best of ww2 or anything but its just so cool
I hope that this becomes a series, i like the Bf-109 F4 btw
K-4 is amazing for mixed battles. It can strafe open top vehicles and then shoot down enemy CAS planes.
I love playing the G-14 and it’s so much better when you have a full squad running it
For me, I have flown Bf-109G6/G14. They are fantastic in every match. I really like 30mm MG's that always help me shoot down any enemy bombers. I still fly both of them to get more Silver Lions to complete researching Lim-5P, then I will start flying Jets onward.
Use Advanced Controls and you can maneuver extremely quickly without stalling, crazy plane haha
Someone in my game got the captured Bf-109 asked about tactics before the video came out!
Purely on aesthetics, I like the poetic angularity of the Emil.
Im glad i got the Bf 109 Z its my favorite 109 because of the guns and 2 engines
I think the best for me is the G-10, because of the ammo type wich is really convenient in terms of damage: the 30 mm cannon at the front and the two 20 mm cannons at the sides are really useful in combat, especially for my fighting fight; but also for the aerodinamic shape of the plane, which is useful for particular movings and various situations.
Messerschmitt BF-109 G-10 = best plane ever
Ive grinded and maxed out the majority of the BF109s and this video covers alot of the details about every BF109. I very muched enjoyed this video. 👍👍
My favorite is the E-3 because that was my first ace in a battle
Could you mention the VL Pyorremyrsky? It's a modified Bf 109-G2 and I would've liked to see how you think people should fly it!
-P.S My Favorite 109 has to be the K4! love it great video!
If you know how to use it properly you can actually win turn fights in the BF-109 K4 (or any other Model w/ gunpods) while having gunpods equipped. Ive played a few games where I scored as much as 12-0 in the K4 because of knowing it’s advantages & disadvantages.
An Update on the climbing the ranks series would also be fire
No early model 109 (600+ horsepower )were only capable of around 350 miles an hour,and later models were capable of 450 with 2000 horsepower engines but that was towards end of war.
F-4 and f-4 trop for ab and rb fits like a glove for me.
bf109 g6 my favourite. Im researching the k4 now
I'm so inconsistent in the E series so it makes me love the F 1 and 2 so much more! BTW, is anyone else having issues with their American P40 E1 paint schemes? It's only showing me the default.
as a German main this entire video was nothing but a good source of dopamine but a good source of info for future and upcoming German mains
I really like the BF-109 F4 Trop Version. and sweet i like a couple of those tactics
i'll bag em home with me.
Has anyone noticed on the tail markings how the symbol of the ruling party of Germany I can’t mention here is replaced with an “X”? It also makes it look like the same symbol used by the Rebel Army from Metal Slug.
My favourite bf-109 is the BF-109 E-3.
It is a low tier plane, meaning it means weaker targets, it is relatively fast and maneuverable, and it is the first to have cannons, meaning it can obliterate enemy targets even at a distance when most of the enemies you face have 10 - 15 mm machineguns. Super effective, but it's not that strong. The best tactic for it is to point out the most lonely enemy fighters and go for them, instead of clashing with the 50 fighters infront of you. That's a certain death. You shouldn't be afraid of head-ons since you have cannons and your enemy most likely doesn't, and you can cannon them to shreds at a distance of 750 meters max.
If someone does get on your tail, i recommend you don't do flips and spins, but instead do barrel rolls while constantly moving your plane left and right randomly while flipping your wings around, in a straight line towards your homebase. You will most likely bait the enemy to your base, get an ally to kill it, or anti air on your runway, or the enemy will pull off realizing your trick, and you'll be able to turn around and give the farmers down below some extra metal to clean off their land.
DEFINETELY. RECOMMENDED.
I usually get to about .50 miles from the bombers and I can usually kill them even with the beginning bf 109. You just have to know where the guns on each bomber is located and where to shoot it.
Loved my Emils but am finding the Friederich a bit of a hard slog - sure the plane is better but then so are all your opponents. I'm also still trying to get my head around all this boom and zoom stuff, despite what the narrator says the F model is not a great climber, at least in my opinion.
I also see from my experience near constant uptiers, I'm rarely not fighting planes at 4.7 and 5.0
Q: How do i change the bind for marking targets with a Scout Drone?
G2 trop and G6 are great.
G2 troop gave me many silver lions. it's a very trustable plane when you really need that victory
Can you guys from the Gaijin team add he Bf109 k14 into the game? It was built and even combat tested before germany capitulated, that's what I've read in the forum suggestion at least but feel like the topic about the bf109 k14 has been completely forgotten.
What has the K-14 better compared to the K-4? (Just curious about that last model)
@@amazingstealth8235 turbo charged engine, the canons for the wings are built inside the wings instead of sticking out like a module in every other bf109 to reduce drag, i forgot the max speed of the k4 was it 720kmh? The k14 can fly 740 or 750. idk if the turn rate is affected with the canons built inside the wings or not like for the better or the worst.
@@SilentVoid_ Turn rate is most likely affected but not as much as with the external gunpods. Is it my idea or the K-14 has a 4-bladed propeller?
@@amazingstealth8235 i don't remember, gotta check the k14 suggestion in the forum again
@@amazingstealth8235 seems like it
Like the K-4 and the G-14 with the 30mm, it is so powerful
Q:Can you add a feature that allows you to pick your own maps in test flight
With (more) targets to test would be great
@@aragorn_ There is such option though, check the lower left corner of your test flight settings before starting it.
Quite easy actually to do something similiar.
Custom battles - create - setup your own mission with respawns on and increase the ticket + timer. Add bots, select BR range of bots and nation of the bots.
Simple as
There is a mission editor in Test Flight where you can also fight AI planes.
@@MDzmitry nice one but i think it could be better and it would be great if we could test more targets for tanks (also more moving targets would be a plus)
All there was between the flesh and bone of allied bomber crews and the cannon shells of the BF-109, was 0.025 gauge alloy. Any allied crew that got in the way, would have limbs/heads blown clean off.
The G variants are my favorite because of their great power during WEP and they can carry 3x30mm so enemies will get incinerated if I get a bit of an angle on them, plus turn rate is overrated.
my favourite is definitely f-4 version
its super capable and good at its rank
The F-4 carried me a long way when I first started playing the game in 2015
I like how the Title is straightforward
1st, I am a fan of a BF-109 G-14
2nd could you do one of these videos on the corsair family, such as the F4U-4B and the F2G-1?
Finally he uplaods
I did all my hours on birds of prey and birds of steel on PS3. I don't know if that is an accurate representation of the real thing but I loved it.4000+ hours on many aircraft. I like the E4 and the F2 and F4. They are good in a dog fight when you get used to them and do it in short bursts and then piss off out of the way 👍
Please give us a makeover of the Bf 109 cockpit like the cockpit of the spitfire last september. I play in VR and that would be a gamechanger! In the sakeen it already looks gread. Maybe a good starting point for a general Bf 109 or FW 190 makeover.
The best model for me was the K-4. 264 air kills and about 96 ground kills in 258 Battles with 185 Deaths .
Q. How come all original Finnish vehicles are premium (myrsky, pyormyyrsky,) and do you have plans to add the other myrsky variants to the tech tree .
Q: Can you do a video about the M3 and/or M3A3 bradley? And also perhaps add the 1st armored division insignia as a decal?
hi me, love to see you doing great tactics
New xbox player here, im really struggling to land hits.. anyone got any advice as to where to aim? or whats the most effective targeting distance?
I own a BF 109 g10 and its maneuverability is beautiful and I still have it in rank 4 but I am gonna replace it with a g14
My favorite one is the f-4 (also because its the same one as on the test flight map😉)
I think the G-6 is my favorite German plane not just in the game but also irl
Ah 109s, especially F4, my ultimate dream planes
ah yes, the s-199 flying paper, one shoot and it ded