Messerschmitt Bf.109 - powerhouse of Luftwaffe
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 28. 06. 2022
- The Messerschmitt Bf.109 is, by and large, the most polarizing aircraft in history. There are so many legends, myths and speculations around it that no other plane can get even close. Not to mention all the different strong opinions on the opposite ends of the spectrum: no wonder that people still argue about its legacy to this very day. Some people say that it was a perfect aircraft for the time period. Others believe that it was a perfect example of how NOT to design planes - and add that this fighter made it into production only because other options available at the time were even worse. Even people that actually used it in combat, or at least flew it, give very conflicting accounts when speaking about their experience.
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In my opinion, the BF-109 is by far the best prop aircraft ever manufactured. Fitting the most powerful engine into the lightest frame made this thing astonishing.
I think the 109 has a card it can play vs almost any contemporary aircraft (assuming the latest model is flown) except late war Spitfires. I just can't think of something a Bf-109-any model can do vs a mark XIV
Very sad that all of them except the 109 Z have very old models with low poly and wrong nose geometry and propellers...
The Zwilling doesn't have a nose cone on its propeller and right after being re-released it wouldn't warn you about high engine RPM until that was updated, so it's safe to say that some 109s got updates, others didn't.
@@revolver265 I mean the 3d model
@@j.k6943 whats wrong with the model it looks fine.
abit i guess
A
G-2 or F-1 model looks very old
BF 109 was the example of how German Engineering got their World Finest title
Spitfire, p-51, p-47âŠ.
@@scottgorby2307 p51 was unreliable till the H series
@@scottgorby2307 ki-84, A6M till '43...
This is your brain on Wehrb revisionism
â@@scottgorby2307 way overhyped and biased, just as good as 109, fighter bomber way too unmanueverable and heavy except at high alt.
as far as german vehicles go, I'll always have a special place in my heart for the 'workhorses' such as the 109 or the panzer IV, even if others like the FW190 or the panther are cooler
Funnily enough, it's kind of the opposite. Kurt Tank specifically had that in mind as his overarching design philosophy. The 109 was the 'luxury race fighter' built to smash records and ooze performance, where the 190 was supposed to be the sturdy, rugged workhorse. Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles has a very thorough introduction to the history and design of the 190, as well as a lot of other planes.
As far as armored workhorses go, mention must also be given to the unglamorous 38(t), Panzer III, and legendary StuG III
@@TheDarkRobloxian we all watched that fw190 video
@@yoamal1187 itâs a very good video
@@Suo_kongque fr fr ong
Both FW-190 and Panther were workhorses of the Wehrmacht during the second half of WW2.FW-190 was the 2nd most common German plane,Panther was the 3rd most common German AFV not including half tracks.
I like how they dont talk about how great of a plane the messerschmit Bf.109 was. It was a genius engineered design and fitted with the biggest supercharger at the time and could 1v1 a p51.
if it was a bad design it would not be used the whole war and even before!
and it is very beautiful, like all german planes.
Q: Can you do a metal beasts segmant/episode over rocket launchers of each country? Maybe explain how the Caliope, the 15cm Pz W.42 RBT-5, Cromwell-V RP-3 and other tanks like that came into service?
I donât think thereâs enough vehicles, and the RBT isnât a good option when there are several katyusha variants in the tech tree. There are many gaps to fill and otherwise I donât see this as much of a metal beasts section, but a tactics and strategy.
ahh i hope not..only USEFULL things idc bout rockey rocket launchers
Soo... what about Japanese ww2 rocket launchers.. little to none right? Italian Ww2 rockeg launchers.. exist right? French ww2 rocket launcher?
You see how it literally encases the 3 big nations, and the british one gets little love.
The Supernarine SpitFire stayed in use until 1954 when it was replaced with 1st generation jet fighters. In Finland, the BF-109 was used until early 60s!
Why donât we have a hartmann 109 premium
All the wehraboos will buy that, and It'll probably fix the matchmaker around the ju288's BR
But one of the CL13s already has the hartmann's camo, Its not fair that he gets two
With a black tulip nose decal
My god would be a beautiful premium
@@gurazeez yea Iâd jump to get that too
Surprised they havenât done a ace of aces pack for each country
So a heartmann 109 a Whittmann tiger and things like that
@@gurazeez yea there are no fighters in the 88s matching lol itâs suffering
great opportunity for gaijin to make money
Q: Will wing vapor effects be added to jets in high G turns? It'll be amazing for immersion and visuals in my opinion.
that's a nice idea! try to write it under the next shooting range video
Very Nice idea
Why isnt there wing vapor effects on props in real life?
@@mcdonneldouglasf-4ephantom541 they don't turn fast enough, and don't go fast enough either.
@@mikulaszach2652 Ive been doing so for the past 2 videos. No luck so far. Maybe yall can help spam it so gaijin notices
One of my favourite aircraft of ww2 and arguably one of the best aircraft of ww2
Inarguably one of the best. Arguably one of the top (number goes here)
Messerschmitt me109 is one of my favorite aircrafts along with Heinkel 111, Junkers ju87 Sturzkampfflugzeug, and Messerschmitt 262.
Surztanakpouffzeug
Dont know why but to hear or read Me109 feel so blasphemy
@@nhatpham9933 LMAO I CAN ONLY IMAGINE "BLASPHEMY" ANYWHERE I SEE ME 109
"Liberated" Czechoslovakia? Yea right... Russian "Liberation"
While I got some appreciation for the Focke-Wulff planes, the BF 109 really spoke to me when I started to get more comfortable in the air. The Boom-and-Zoom fighting style with wonderful performance in climbs made it a reliable plane even when I was grinding through the latest WW2 tanks while still just piloting the very first machine of the Rank III. aviation tree.
The Bf 109 had the best kill to loss ratio in WW2 of any fighter. How can you say that it was a bad aircraft?
russian game.
it has the most kills in aviation history
The questions needed to be asked are: when are you planning to addbthe br 0.5 (like 6.0 - 6.3 - 6.5 - 6.7 - 7.0) it would decompress the br system and would make matches really balanced. Imagine fighting only against vehicles +/- 0.6 br than yours.. not 1.0...
Second question: what were the guys implementing napalm thinking? They were totally drunk, right? No burning of anything, not even marking the enemies??? Seriously?????
Yeah napalm is bad rn, only to take out trees
Wow! One of my favorites aircraft! đ
As a retired wt player and former 109 main, i very love this plane, especially the F-4, and G-2. I had 82% win rate with the F-4.
Mr Schmitt did a brilliant job designing 109.
indeed 109 was the best of its time , it was superior in climb rate and speed vs spitfires and superior in turn fights against the P51s , they only suffered from that Fuel shortage and in the last days of war the best G10/14 and K4 veriants had to fight in 1 vs 20 dogfights against allied birds ...
i really love the G10 and hope you soon rework the models in the game and add more 109s to the game đ
and plz make a similar video about the Fw190 , thank you
They've even modeled the 1 vs 20 dogfights against allied birds at that br bracket... thank you gaijin
The weaknesses listed early in this video (poor view from cockpit, single-spar wing, narrow undercarriage making taxiing difficult/dangerous) were shared by the Spitfire. Actually, the pilot view from the Spitfire was a little *worse* because the Bf109's inverted engine made the top of the nose a little narrower than the Spitfire's.
Wow I love learning new things.
I've been waiting for this for so long!
Did you do an fw 190 version? if you didn't i would really enjoy it as the d9 is my fav version! :)
It's literally the worst version
â@@eironn__ Worst version? All the 190s were great.
4:30 Czechoslovakia after ww2 used a lot of German equipment, made in Czechoslovakia, like the famous half track and the 109.
In all honesty, i choose my Planes purely through aesthetic considerations and i really like the way the 109s look... having had a model one in my childhood home propably helps.
More please!
I only have Bf-109 and now am proud of it.
I love that fighter it has a beautiful shape it is tied for my favorite the F4 U
Hi whenever I try to take off in simulator mode my plane just always turns for no reason and I can't figure out how to take off ( I am on console and all the guides I have tried to find are for pc)
Honestly starting to prefer this commentator, thanks guys! love these historical bits, they remind me of old history channel shows.
nope
Hes a handsome lad
This guy seems less pretentious and I like that
Q: will we ever see more Bf109 Like The K-6 or K-14 ?
Shame there's no display of all models in chronological order in this video :(
4:28 ... whats up with these humps between window and yellow section ? ... can anybody say something about it ? seems to only be on one specific BF 109
Leaves out there combat record and mostly anything positive about the airframe other than ease of production. I've rarely heard anyone call the 109 a bad aircraft it was for it's time one of the best combat aircraft around and if you had a experienced pilot behind the controls was a match for anything the allies threw at it.
History and design of the ki 61 variants please
wasn't there a bf109 family video some years ago?
hey warfunder whats the difference between the Marder A1- and the Marder A1A3
Q:is there ever be a Czechoslovak vehicle tree because there is already a lot of Czech vehicles in the game
prob not, they'll be just part of germany
Prob no
I hope mot
Name some of them pls.
@@tss333 hetzer iirc
I love the BF109 ^-^
Not only bc im german
I love the BF109 for the mobility and firepower ^-^
Hungary built approximately 1600 BF 109 fighters for both Germany and for its own use.
Do you think you can make a video on bf 109 family of aircraft
wonder when they do the BF109 family video?
I remember french pilot talking about the bf109 and how they where impossible to reach with ms406.
But they say that the d520 fared better gainst a bf109.
The two aircraft where light with powerfull engine, the d520 can dive faster, roll faster, and turn harder.
But the bf109 ( 1940 ) can climb faster and has more ammo.
The only and worst design feature was forced upon it by its splayed landing gear, its advantage was it was attached to the fuselage, so you didnt need to add weight and reinforce the wings. Only trick was not to allow yourself to get too excited upon landing and taking off, once you controlled your emotions in handling it, things went well; on grass and barren ground landing strips it was easier to land it but on concrete there was no give, if a wheel hit first it could dig in, and flip the aircraft. After you master the landings and take offs, the planes other features took over, it was light and small, hard to see at a distance, and its superb Benz engine gave it a climbing rate superior to the p51, starting with the G 10, once you have the K series out, the word is it can out climb and out turn the P 51, and with those cannon shells coming out of its nose, 2 or 3 hits would shred planes and break their frames once the shell got inside an airframe it then blew up, like their anti tank shells did! It was easy to produce and 2 bolts per side would allow the wings to come off for easy shipment, and the pilot sat with his legs almost straight out in front of him, making him less prone to blacking out in maneuvers. So overall when you get past its shitty landings and learn to use rudder controls as you landed, the thing was easy to manuver in the air and the fuel injection made it very responsive at low, middle and high altitudes. So whats really not to like, its was fast, easy to produce, hit hard with that cannon and climbed like a rocket, so for its day it was the best interceptor they had.
What a great document video! Next pls do with Spitfire, P51 and Fw190
As a guy that grinded all of the German Air Tree, I Dub the BF-109 as "The Fuhrer's Bathtub" because it handles like one. The Fockewulfs were way smoother and I didn't feel like I was lumping around a powder keg or a bathtub full of explosives.
Bf-109s have probably my favorite flight models in this game.
I have no idea how you'd call the 109s "bathtubs" and the 190s "smooth". 190s handle like a bus. Their only advantages are in armament and dive performance, and maybe straight line speed, while the 109 still has a capable enough armament to dismantle most things it comes across, and it can be augmented.
When it comes to the maneuverability department, the Bf-109 smashes the Fw-190 entirely.
As for the straight line speed, the Bf-109 can easily outclimb the Fw-190s, and the speed difference in favor of the 190 isn't enough to counter that.
I'm not calling the Fw-190s bad, but I always feel like the underdog in almost every situation when flying those things, perhaps that gives them their appeal, as some have told me.
When pitting the 109 against other fighters it feels like a struggle bus, it bleeds speed like hell. The 190 has better energy retention resulting in it just being better, its easier to hit targets since energy retention is superior, sure its capabilities on paper doesn't match the 109 but in practice the 190 just feels better when it comes to PvP since the speed can help in a descent and quick ascend, making the 190 turn inside the circle of the 109 due to speed. Catching targets at further away by closing the gap rapidly. Now to say the 109 is bad, not really it just leaves more to be desired in a more live environment when you have to pull your target into your nose, yes its climb rate is superb but when coming down on enemies the only tactic is Boom and Zoom, quick drop and back up which might end up leaving you as the last one since you're basically picking the scraps of others. Now if we were to grab a "Better" Pilot and they can Dogfight in the 109, good for them. The 190 is easier to use and when it comes down to the average player they're better off flying the 190.
it was one of the best. i love it
Q: Can the german tank techtree get a light tank line or something actually fast?
The puma is pretty fast
@@skinyard8539 but that one is low br i want something higher
I like these historicall videos, but can you please use some historical photos or clips, not only content from the game?
The 3 highest Aces in the war flew the Bf.109. One of them, Eric Hartmann, had 352 kills and was never shot down.
If i remember correctly he wad downed at least 10times just never killed
i love the bf 109 series with my heart
Q: Will you remake the American fighter pilot model with more modern gear
Unlocked the Bf-109 K-4 about 2 weeks ago, named her Eva. Quite a nice plane to fly and is great at attacking unsuspecting planes, especially in ground RB.
đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł nice
I will name my best fighters too
The sad thing is you get fucked at it's BR due to no air support from other fighters.
Wehraboos and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race
ware is the free M1A2 tank and parts and FPE
Do one on the spitfire
thanks for this video
Could you please suggest Gaijin to update the models of the Bf109 from the F1 to the G6 so that the propeller spinner actually spins like it does on the G10, G14 and K4? It looks really fake when you have a skin with a spiral painted on the spinner and once the engine is on, the spiral just becomes parallel lines or if you have a skin with a white and black coloured spinner it becomes a grey spinner. Has anyone else noticed this?
Iâd say that the bf109 k4 is kinda suffering in the Br itâs in , climb rate is not on par plus maneuverability , dive speed is good and energy retention but not top speed and accel , also the worst is the rip speed of the wing
There's no point to play the 109 K-4, the teams you get are always utter garbage 4 Ju-288C and 1-2 more fighters against all fighter teams
the K4 is amonster.
@@jnik_3234
It is a monster, but the teams are not (At that BR). Hence it doesn't matter since you get outnumbered by 3 to 1 and only have 1-2 fighters to help you. K4 is really good, but without a good team, it's a dead fish outta water
What happened to the other guy that did the commentary for the shooting range
His contract was terminated.
Q: why you guys change the f-4C phantom weapons
âBf 109 was by far the best fighterâ *spitfire laughs hystericly*
It's a very good plane in the air. In the air, we better don't talk about the ground.
It is evident how much Gaijin has a feeling of rivalry with the German armed forces in the second world war. It is enough to have an experience in some matches in the simulator mode, where the FW190 are "average" aircraft, when history shows us how superior were the German designs at that time. In addition to wanting to "equal" the German power to the Soviet power, Gaijin introduces planes from the end of 1944 to face 1942 aircraft such as the Yak3 for example. Not to mention that although many aircraft had good qualities, they were very difficult to operate, where they needed several commands to accelerate or decelerate, but that Gaijin does not take into account. Like the YAK9 and its entire line, for example, they had excellent flight characteristics, but in the heat of battle the pilot had to operate several controls to accelerate the aircraft and operate the radiator, while the FW190 and BF109 only required a lever to moderate the acceleration and fuel mixture, this was decisive in combat. Not to mention the versions almost never used in battles that are introduced in the game. Airplanes that did not make history and never played an important role in battles, just to take the glory of the VERY superior fighters like the ME109 and the FW190. But the YAK3 is of far from the aircraft that had little relevance in the battles of the second war, and when it was introduced, there was already news of axis jet fighters. it was the FW190, and in the simulation game it shows a huge mess, with difficulty reaching good flight speeds in the horizontal direction. It is clear to see that the gaijin hates German aircraft.
I just installed the game and somehow immediately unlocked a 109. How is that possible?
Nice
Q: When you find video sponsored by war thunder and there is special link that gives you special vehicle when you register but you have old account, can you gain that vehicle on the old account?
Question: Will you add the Jagdpanzer E100?
Never existed so no
@@KingSpittusFactus that shouldnât be the standard
Nobody cares if itâs a paper version we just want more stuff
@@TinyBearTim but it is so stop crying or play wot
The E 100 hundred wasnât made but itâs in the game
@@theblackbaron3092 it was made. The hull existed there are enough pictures of it. And that's why it is an event vehicle
Nice to see a video of the me 109, it will always have special place in my heart. Question: somebody commented once that the finnish VL Pyörremyrsky, which was based of the me 109 is a spiritual successor to messer. Is true or false?
Such a shame to see one of the most iconic planes of all time getting such low care from developers.
i am a new player i joined 6months ago but form my experience the bf109 has a lot of fire power and its very good on boom and zoming but bad maneuverbility
your useing it wrong then it energy fighter not BnZ u can turn just don't keep turning it best that loop attacks recommend you don't use gun pods has make it act like brick
my favourite 109 is K4 that thing gives P51H and tempest II run for there money
My fav is the bf109 g-2/trop
which BF 109 is the one with the black nose? (4:17)
Could be the F1
Pretty sure it's an F-4
The best plane at Simulator batles in german tech tree is the Bf109m The FW190 is unplayable because you need to fly trying to stabilize plane all the time with the Rudder
Can somebody recommend me a nation? i almost play
mainly hunters. I pay attention to maneuverability
and firepower. Play aggressively and like fast ones
dogfights. I played the Germans, it
got boring in the long run and am looking for a nation.
Do 1-2 rounds with each nation with the
flown by starter planes. I confided in
everyone (except Japan, where I only did assists).
Can you help me? Besides, I still wanted
say the nation wants to play through completely
the jets
Bf 109 was by far the best warbird at the beginning of the war. Nothing the allied countries had didnât even come close. Once more spitfires and eventually the p51 with the RR engine were produced the 109 was matched. But before that it was the king of the skies in Europe. The luftwaffes strategic decision were bad however.
The best fighter in my opinion seconded only by the Spitfire.
Germany did have the best engineers, correct me if I'm wrong, but they made the first operational jet fighter.
yes they did, also the V2 (first human object in space), first jet bomber (ar234), first modern - like assault rifle (stg44) (wich is what inspired the modern rifles heavily), the ho229, rocket powered fighter interceptor (me163 komet).
A lot of german ww2 euqipment and tactics resemble the modern stuff alot.
the bf is also nice for its powerful machine guns
Bf109 will always have its menacing look and its a pilots plane in warthunder if you have a skill of a Japanese zero user you cant handle a 109
xp50 out climb 109... they will be on deck...
4.0 br xp 50 destroy whole 109 3.0-5.0 br even k4 5.7 cant out climb it.. Cuz air spawn xp50
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@@rommelwhittman3995 ur point?
@@atif1538 In props, altitude=win unless you really mess up
@@Miles26545 i know but this guy is prob going around the comments droolin over the xp 50. thats why i said it.
@@rommelwhittman3995 the Bf 109 F-4 has very similar climbing characteristics at optimal climb speeds with the XP-50, itâs only the airspawn that pushes it higher than the 109s.
Hey where is the other guy?
Nice to see a Bf-109 video, but what would also be quite nice is a remaster of the Bf 109's 3D model. Some of the variants that have been in game since the beginning are definitely showing their age now
bro every year??
Can we have a dozer Blade on the Sherman please
where do you get your videoclips from? half of them is noobheadon. well... typical wt playerbase
I thought people didn't die in ww2 , according to War Thunder they're just knocked out.
Can anybody tell me..!
Sometimes I see my planes skin like black or blur.
Why...?! And what should i do..?
Can we get the American M107
that is the great content we are following not some stupid shorts
Update al the 109 FM models and textures, its been unloved by gaijin for far to long
If they fixed their fm the 109 would be a brick at high speeds. Its overperforming as it is rn. But I agree with textures.
@@chrisw8157 i dissagree, i fly in Sim, there is inconsistancies in its model, plus most cockpits are glitchy or miss some instruments. The fw190 also has some weird inconsistanties, i mainly fly those planes and it could use some rework with al the updates, not saying they are bad, but it could use a checkup or update, i don't think it is an overperformer, it has always been a competitive airframe irl, this video doesn't do the plane justice either, there is a reason the TOP 3 aces in history flew this thing and did as well as they did.
Can we see the last variant the k14 in the game
Theres really no point for it to be in game
Can the Sagittario 2 please get itâs AP belts back itâs not worth playing anymore
Q:How many versions of Bf 109 existed?
Over 20
@@TinyBearTim if you count varients from all around the world, it 32!
The BF109 is a nice plane. If it hadn't a little problem. 3 clicks on the mouse and your bigger guns like 20mm are done, no ammo. I hate it.
I mean, the 109 is the only plane i get 2/3 kills per game with, so it's a good plane for me
Only 2/3?
@@mAnDaL__ air *realistic* battles if you were wondering.
Show some love to FW-190 too :))))
Q: please but the old scooting method it's so annoying to use it in slow turret tanks the old one was better
did the old narrator retire ?
Are there any amphibious german tanks?
In the game there are not but there existed a SchwimPanzer
@@Pgb633 oh my, i didnt know this was a thing. The 38t is my favorite 1.0-2.3 tanks i want one in my life
@@echo__noar8676 the SchwimPanzer could be a 38t a Panzer 3 a Panzer 4 or a 35t
What happened to the original narrator?
Edit:Sorry to say this, but I prefer the old style of videos where you tell the history of aircraft or ground vehicle family and then show off the many variants it had.