Buyer Beware - Cheap Disc Detainer Pick Clones

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  • čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
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Komentáře • 57

  • @GCrocker662
    @GCrocker662 Před 2 měsíci +15

    Think I'd get the Sparrows one. $45 USD on their website.

    • @ronpalmer1371
      @ronpalmer1371 Před 2 měsíci

      Probably another $45 postage 🤷‍♂️

    • @Outshined84
      @Outshined84 Před 2 měsíci +1

      $5.95 shipping.

    • @ronpalmer1371
      @ronpalmer1371 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@Outshined84
      From USA to the UK ?
      That’s a bargain, everything I want to order from the USA isn’t viable due to the cost of postage, last thing I wanted was a small felt washer for an Oreck vacuum cleaner, it only cost a few pence and would fit easily in a regular envelope, yet the postage was about £16 (from memory) that’s just one of many examples I could give.

    • @GxAxV
      @GxAxV Před 2 měsíci

      @@ronpalmer1371customs charges can add another £30😢 I know from experience

    • @mercuriall2810
      @mercuriall2810 Před 2 měsíci

      @@ronpalmer1371being in Australia I often face the same problem with shipping driving reasonable prices way too high. I have found that a lot of businesses are flexible if you take the time to ask them. They might’ve set minimum postage to say £16 on their website, but if you ask whether they will use a standard envelope to send items that will fit in them, they are often willing to do so and pass on the savings.

  • @rwbcustompicks
    @rwbcustompicks Před 2 měsíci +6

    Nice comparison. Thankfully I do all my own quality control so every pick is fully able to pick 90 % of dd locks 🔒 😀

    • @JSTKSK
      @JSTKSK Před 2 měsíci +3

      Your picks are head and shoulders above anything you can buy on the regular market.

    • @LockpickingMasta
      @LockpickingMasta Před 2 měsíci +2

      I will buy DD picks from you soon 😊

    • @rwbcustompicks
      @rwbcustompicks Před 2 měsíci

      Thanks mate really appreciate your comments 👏 ​@JSTKSK

  • @roysammons2445
    @roysammons2445 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Very nicely done LN.
    That's a great look at all these DD picks. I think you just about got everything spot on.

  • @Baldiloks
    @Baldiloks Před 2 měsíci +11

    I thought I was your only friend.

    • @LockNoob
      @LockNoob  Před 2 měsíci +5

      I mean, I never said we were exclusive…

    • @user-pb2cz2me7h
      @user-pb2cz2me7h Před 2 měsíci

      ​​@@LockNoobHello I am willing to pay for a private guide on key copying (as information should be free)
      The question would be around how to duplicate highly protected keys such as master skeleton keys from the lock with no key!
      Willing to pay 100+ for insight👌

  • @isabellam1936
    @isabellam1936 Před 14 dny

    I love the anodized purple colors and the way these look a lot but I also love the Sparrows one too. They’re all about the same price. It looks like there some quality control regarding these though. I think I’ll go with the Sparrows one. I love that there’s more competition in the market because it’s better for innovation and the consumer and affordability.
    Thank you for the amazing review and comparison as always Lock Noob. 🖤

  • @BD90..
    @BD90.. Před 2 měsíci +10

    I will just go with the Sparrows tool thanks.

  • @ALSLockTools
    @ALSLockTools Před 2 měsíci +6

    Interesting to see the differences, we actually bought a load of stock and made new parts to add to it including the square tension rod. We may consider making a completely new tool if the interest is there? Thanks for taking the time to review 👍

    • @penfold7800
      @penfold7800 Před 2 měsíci

      I'm more interested to know if there's spare tips available with stronger weld joints. ....or better still, single piece forged tip & rod made out of harder material. It would be well worth the premium for the better quality and longevity. Hardened stainless steel perhaps, which would also aid in preventing friction problems. Oh, and have a slight flat on the rods so they can be gripped better with the grub screw.

    • @ALSLockTools
      @ALSLockTools Před měsícem

      we have 2 new tools which will be available soon, 1 front and 1 rear tension, they will be a great improvement on what's currently available @@penfold7800

  • @EtotheFnD
    @EtotheFnD Před 2 měsíci +24

    Are you saying Bosnian Bill and the Lock Picking Lawyer didnt make that tool? 😂😂

    • @davidmartensson273
      @davidmartensson273 Před 2 měsíci +10

      I was also wondering, the design is an almost exact copy the the one BB and LPL designed in their video series and which they then allowed Sparrows to manufacture. My quess are that all of the features ones here are pirate copies with no approval.

    • @sendtosurge
      @sendtosurge Před 2 měsíci +7

      Imagine LPL doing a video about the new covert instruments picks that are complete rip-offs of Abona or Monith. @locknoob doesn’t even acknowledge the facts.

    • @LockSpaz
      @LockSpaz Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@sendtosurge Speaking of CI, I suspect they're coming out with their own DD pick this year; if you look at their "vault" page, there are all kinds of new tools they're releasing soon (like "Spin", mostly likely a plug spinner) but being very hush hush about, and I just wouldn't be surprised if LPL and McNally, et al revisited that tool and decided to make more improvements to it and brand it their own. I would be shocked if LPL, being a lawyer, gave up his co-IP rights to the design.
      It's for that sole reason that I'm holding off the Sparrows DD pick for now.
      OTOH, I could be wildly wrong.

  • @gantry289
    @gantry289 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks for the reviews of the picks. Nice to know what to look for.

  • @Nicks-Picks
    @Nicks-Picks Před 2 měsíci +2

    They all look like clear "knock offs " to me. I've much more respect for tallan pick, RWB and Daz evers and Huxley pig for at least coming up with their own designs

  • @lmars5933
    @lmars5933 Před 2 měsíci

    Nicely explained my friend..makes you wonder who has the patent...🌴😎

  • @penfold7800
    @penfold7800 Před 2 měsíci

    Id like to know where i can get spare tips from, even if theyre still in the round form. My worry is the strength of the weld on the end of the rod to attatch the tip. Ive got a Sparrows version and i bought spare tips from them at time of purchase, but im wondering if theres been any improvement yet.

  • @bikeybikebike
    @bikeybikebike Před 2 měsíci +1

    I have a KSEC one and it came with a spare tip, though it was too big really.

  • @LockpickingMasta
    @LockpickingMasta Před 2 měsíci

    Great vid Ash. Always love to hear your cool voice amd intonation 😊

  • @Gazz_R
    @Gazz_R Před 2 měsíci

    A fair and honest review as always Ash. Thanks for sharing mate and have a fantastic weekend.

  • @afterhoursitrep6922
    @afterhoursitrep6922 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Luckily I have the Sparrows DD lock pick

  • @hgec
    @hgec Před 2 měsíci +1

    I think the difference is not that it's different products, but different versions of the same product because they were created at a later stage and were upgraded. There is a situation that even if you buy from the Chinese company directly, you will get the improved version. The other changes are probably from lower packaging standards

    • @GxAxV
      @GxAxV Před 2 měsíci

      This is not the case, ALS for example take the older pick and change out the parts for the newer ones by hand for each tool sold.

  • @vitallife8503
    @vitallife8503 Před 2 měsíci

    which is better topolino or locksmith? or topolino is simply faster?

  • @Flying0Dismount
    @Flying0Dismount Před 2 měsíci +2

    I wonder if the LPL has tried any intellectual property cases..

    • @twatmunro
      @twatmunro Před 2 měsíci +1

      This isn't the device that him and Bosnian Bill designed, is it?

  • @ryanwilson_canada
    @ryanwilson_canada Před 2 měsíci +1

    I think, other than having one custom made by LPL, and BB, I would stick with the sparrows tool. Its not that much more expensive than those, and my experience with sparrows tools is very good.

  • @DirtyPlumbus
    @DirtyPlumbus Před 2 měsíci

    Good information. I'd be a bit angry if I paid twice as much for a tool that I immediately have to do file work on before I can use it.

  • @user-vw9mb4tv9k
    @user-vw9mb4tv9k Před 2 měsíci

    In another comment on tools not to even think about buying. What I am referring to are the southord 5 piece comb pick set for 43.95. I tried the correct tool on a 5 dollar walmart lock and the junk material they used for this set bent on the actual 1st try. Heh noob Yoda, who has the most versatile and best made comb pick set I can buy

  • @erdrickx784
    @erdrickx784 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I recognize those picks! They're knockoffs of the pick that that LPL and Bosnian Bill made.

  • @chriscapune7873
    @chriscapune7873 Před 2 měsíci

    Interesting. I like the colours 😊
    🐈‍⬛🐾🐈🐾👍🍻

  • @danareed1656
    @danareed1656 Před měsícem

    great video! good info!

  • @murdoch451
    @murdoch451 Před 2 měsíci

    Thanks

  • @vapulabe
    @vapulabe Před 2 měsíci +1

    All three are blattant copies of the pick created by Lockpickinglawyer and Bosnian Bill.
    You should really make an update about it !!!

    • @LockNoob
      @LockNoob  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Very similar, yes, but let’s not forget that tool itself was just an updated version of the Chinese DD picks that came before it

  • @davidmartensson273
    @davidmartensson273 Před 2 měsíci

    The heads are actually originally round and are ground down to the rectangular form and in the original it was thinner than any of them.

  • @Leonslockpad
    @Leonslockpad Před 2 měsíci

    great video Ash mate 😎👊👍🇬🇧😊

  • @eugenewii
    @eugenewii Před 2 měsíci

    The handles look different shapes as well.

  • @ParkSt.Picking
    @ParkSt.Picking Před 2 měsíci +2

    Caveat emptor. Res ipsa loquitur.

  • @jeanpaulworrall8521
    @jeanpaulworrall8521 Před 2 měsíci

    thanks im looking at getting one now i have more options

  • @samuraidriver4x4
    @samuraidriver4x4 Před 2 měsíci

    Same item being made by the same asian company to different quality standards have been happening for a decade or 2 already.
    Seller A wants ultra cheap so costs get cut in materials and finishing and seller B wants a higher quality and gets better materials and finishing.

  • @billynomates920
    @billynomates920 Před 2 měsíci +2

    from what i've heard it's not quite so much one factory as one town. the way communism dictates labour for improved efficiency. you will be typewriter town. you will make bicycle. then if something succeeds and brings in the money, other locals set up in the only permitted industry, producing their own take on the product via many of the same suppliers.

  • @TunTunV
    @TunTunV Před 2 měsíci +7

    I guess it’s good information for those in the market to support Chinese design thieves, but it’s truly amazing that you can make this video without discussing the fact that this is a shameless knockoff of the BB/LPL tool produced by sparrows.

    • @LockNoob
      @LockNoob  Před 2 měsíci +3

      That design while good, isn’t in of itself fully unique or innovative, as it still follows the same functional principles as the cheaper Chinese DD picks that came before it

  • @user-pb2cz2me7h
    @user-pb2cz2me7h Před 2 měsíci

    Hello fellow game player I am willing to pay for a private guide on key copying (as information should be free)
    The question would be around how to duplicate as master skeleton keys from the lock! 🔒
    Willing to pay 100+ for insight👌

  • @Suiseisexy
    @Suiseisexy Před 2 měsíci

    Ultimately a pick is only as good as the...pick part? Business end? Might be a great project to make DD pick heads and Lishi replacement tips and sell small sets.