Scythe Ninja 5 CPU Cooler Review - Cool Quietly and Carry a Big Heatsink
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Dude what the hell, I found this video in my recommendations. After watching it I would have bet anything you had at least 100k subs. This is some quality production and it's only your 3rd video. Keep it up dude.
Quality production is excellent, but the testing it's garbage.
Dark rock pro 4, 10°C worst than other top coolers at 32dba? Really? And the LGMRT getting beaten at noise/performance ratio..... really? Even on maximum performance i have a hard time believing it, but that can happen due to IHS and coldplate inconsistencies. But a cooler being built for ground up to work with minimal airflow being beaten at noise/performance by a brute force champion. Idk man, i call it bullshit.
Still many of these results look very different from what you would expect, seeing other reviews, and having had some of these coolers, or having read other informed users experiences.
I just now got it recommend to me
Thanks for the review I bought this on amazon and haven't installed it yet but I'm super happy after watching your video.
Very nice, you will be my nr 1 source for cooling hardware! Dont change anything, keep up this nice reviews.
Thank you! You are helping me figure out what I want/ need for my first build
Another great review and two in the same day I found you!! Never knew the Ninja 5 existed. I will think about this one. Thanks!!
What is this goldmine I've found!
Your videos are awesome, sooo informative regarding CPU cooling :D
Very professional review, Paul and Kyle did a good job introducing you to a big audience.
I see it differently: Kyle and Paul did a bad job ... by not mentioning and testing Scythe in the period they consider themselves "Hardware"-gurus. Scythe is around for 20 years already, have had always the best price/performance air-coolers. All my rigs have Scythe coolers in the tank, from the Katana II over the Mugen 3 to the most recent Fuma 2. Never failed to impress me with the value you get for such a little amount. Sadly, the market is saturated, not by good brands, but by CZcams Gurus which promotes the same brand time after time and are forgetting that others may have better solutions available.
Hi Jesse, you did it again guy, Great review. I think i will look up this cooler and check it out, thanks man. Looking forward to future video's.
Instant subscribe. Your voice, your explanation. *perfect*
Great video!! High quality content! Keep up the great work man👍
The Schythe coolers are working great, using one now for different years without trouble. Good cooling overall, and different models depending the case and build you use.
wow. great video, great sound mixage, clean expression. subscribed!
Very informative and professional review. Thank you very much for this video, and keep up the good work! :)
wow, I subscribed after see this great review !
Best review video ever. The way you explained was very CLEAR and PROFESSIONAL though! Keep it up! Subscribed to your channel. :) Thanks for your effort.
Great videos man
in a mini itx setup, the casefan at the back isn't needed ( totally unnecessary/obsolete ) as the Ninja already pushes the air out the case in the same way :) . Excellent review, very nice to show all the different setups ! :)
Great video. I'm trying to choose the best low'ish cost cooler for an i7-9700k build. This one is looking like a winner to me, big n cool. Thank you for an awesomely professional video. :-))
i used Ninja 3 as a passive cooler for few years this looks like a great upgrade
This is pretty neat info. I needed to know more about ram clearance with this cooler. Which I got for the most part. Something more low profile like Crucial Ballistix should work.
Wouldn't be just awesome to see Lyle from Bitwit (not Kyle :-)) and start saying a few lines in his own particular manner?
Very nice review, just pointed me in Scythe direction when I'll buy a cooler. I use stock 3700X cooler for now (yeah, I know -saving money for a good GPU) but I'll upgrade to a better coller once I've dealt with GPU acquisition.
Hey, very nice review, love the calm, professional manner of the presentation and good lighting and sound.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks to your eviews, i got the Ninja 5 along 2 Noiseblocker NB-eLoop B12-PS for my 3900x at4.3ghz on all cores with 1.296v. My temp under AIDA64 - FPU stress test is 72c and my idle with
a room temp of 25c is 31c on the cpu. thanks for your input ! Also the fans fit perfect in height with 44mm tall G.Skill ram, but anything higher would probably impact the fans performance on the cooler. My case is a Corsair 110R.
Just wanted to say hey, and great job.
The review is excellent. The graphics card's cooling performance with sound are the clearest. One view and its clear to me.
I had this one paired with 2 Be Quiet SW4 1450rpm fans. Not bad cooler, but it is huge, so I went for Scythe Mugen 5 and will use it with 2x NF-A15x25 fans. The Mugen 5 performs as good as the Ninja 5 one, but with smaller footprint.
I'm still running a Scythe Ninja 2 on my FX 6300, and it's about to go on my 2700X. ha ha.
12 years and it's still a beast
Even if the Ninja 5 struggles against more expensive options, added airflow from case fans may level the playing field. I use a HAF XB EVO for my case, and the cooler is just short enough for me to mount a 200mm exhaust fan above it, unlike the NH-D15 which is a little too tall. Definitely something to keep in mind.
Buy it, and love it!
I am curious how this cooler works with VRM temps on the motherboard. It looks like the design would restrict air flow and the fans are blowing right past the VRM sinks.
Is the included backplate really only used in LGA boards? Do AM4 boards have to make do with their standard backplates, and does it work well?
I love Scythe cpu coolers. You should look into Kama Angle Rev. B CPU Cooler. It may be hard to find today but I still use this cooler since the release. The design and ability to control air flow in differnt directions modulerly makes it one of a kind.
Yet!
No one knows about it.
what is the CPU you used in the video?
Should both fans blow inside or one to blow inside other to pull out air?
most underrated cooler
which is better H7 or H7 quadlumi? Just talking about cooling performance. and how much one is better than other, by small margin or just minor..
Can this cooler be rotated in the case? I'm considering it in my CoolerMaster SL600M
Hey what gloves are those and where can I get them?
Nice work! Can you review Arctic Freezer ii 360?
Hmmmm I'm worry about the wieght will that damage mother board if use for long term?
Was wondering when you test air coolers, can you fan normalize to either A12x25mm for 120mm and Arctic P14 for 140mm? Since they're the best heatsink fans, I'd be curious who has the best heatsinks. A lot of these cooler tests are set back because of their bad fans.
do a test with the deepcool assassin 2 and compare :)
@Hardware Scientist ~ Thanks for this review. I've been looking for one... I just have one question : *_"Will (the same sized) Be Quiet fans fit this cooler ?"_*
Would you say this cooler is better than something like the Deepcool castle 360ex because I am going to build a PC and want to make sure I get the best performance I can send you my build if you want.
Why not detach one of the fans and use it as a back fan exhaust ?
Im actually interested on this CPU cooler but im wondering if this is better than the Wraith Prism cooler I got for free from AMD.
it'd be interesting to see what happens if you replaced ninja's fans for noctua's F12
I remember when a cpu fan was a 4x4cm affair on top of a 486 dx2-66 processor. Lower end processors had passive cooling, if any
Ok, I just ordered the Scythe Ninja 5 using your affiliate link on Amazon. Best of luck to you; see you in more videos :)
what cpu
@@f-22raptor25 R7 3800x.
@@tonydupinnyc6830 if you're overclocking id use faster rpm fans the ones included are really quiet
@@f-22raptor25 Yeah, I'm actually considering that and I probably will further down the road. Thx for the suggestion 😊
Can you run this cooler passively just depending on case airflow, I would really appreciate it if you try it out :)
What gloves are you using? They seem perfect for PC buildiing, both because they will not leave fingerpints and because they would work well with thumbscrews and cable detaching (like the ATX and the CPU)
Just added a link in the description for the gloves 🙂
does anybody know if it would fit with an asustek computer inc. prime h310m-k?
I wonder what its like when mounted on a GPU...
It didn’t work as well for me with my Ryzen 7 3700x idle temperatures were at 55-60C. I have an enermax that actually lower temperatures to 35c on idle. But that is with a different cpu: i7 4770k. I will have to test the enermax cooler with the Ryzen 7.
In other words higher RPM fans would make this a Noctua killer?
I installed two Noctua NF-P12 120mm PWM fans instead but i did that becurse i have many noctua fans from older builds and a big chassi helps to with the temps :D mine Corsair Obsidian 750D Airflow Edition.
@@Abbadoss did that make any diffeence though?
@SchoolTerrorist HOPE YOU SAW THAT TEST ! czcams.com/video/XVPV9omPuyw/video.html
Good review! Is that a fractal meshify c or meshify c mini at the end with a rear exhaust fan? Do you know if a micro tax board would allow for an exhaust? The board is a little bigger than itx, right?
Just rewatched, noticed there was quite a bit of space when you were discussing pci slot access. But, if you had time to answer my question, I’d appreciate it
Top tier cooler, if you replace the terrible low pressure fans with some better ones high pressure fans it preforms on par with the nh-d15s
hi do you think if you change the included fans that the performance would out rank higher end coolers ?
Seems promising
Maybe I'm looking at the wrong thing, but the noise level data on your graph here at 7:03 don't match the noise level data from your high-end review at 8:12. What happened? Here, the max noise level for the Dark Rock Pro 4 is listed as 37-38. In your previous review, it's listed as 35-36. Which is correct?
This is an older video with a different test case.
Great presentation, clear and to the point. but some nitpicks.
For your CPU temp vs noise graphs, I'm not sure how you have decided on the 5 fan speed levels, whether it is % PWM or total RPM of the fans. It would have been helpful to have them labelled.
You compare the Ninja 5 to the higher performance coolers in the same way, so I assume you must have used/ explained your method in a previous video.
EDIT: after reviewing your dictation, you mention "from lowest to highest" so I assume you use % PWM
Thanks! The 5 fan speed levels are equally distributed from the minimum PWM level to 100%. I will be making a video on my full test method at some point so you can get all of the details.
Come on, most reviews give idle & full bore. Thought it was helpful, even bought one !
Just worried about connecting the fan connectors
Why would you need both the back cooler fan and the case fan in the mITX build?
I agree, if it would allow it to fit, then it would be a better fan than the case fan-big time !
I believe there is an upgraded fan option that gets you noticeably more performance...at the cost of noise level of course.
The Scythe Kaze Flex 1200 RPM (check reviews of Scythe Mugen 5 Rev. B) fans are still quiet enough under full speed.
seen inconsistent relative temp performance for this cooler from website to website, and from i expect is because of the mounting system, the scythe fuma for example, can drop -10ºC if you tighten enough the mounting screws, and ninja 5 has the same kind of mounting method.
My stock wraith stealth kept my CPU consistently at 36C and while playing games no more than 44C with no noise. My Ninja 5 regular temp jumps between 38C to 46C at random. While playing games it jumps to about 52C. With the Ninja 5 installed my GPU also runs 5C higher as well.
It does keep MY CPU running at its max allowable frequency though but at the cost of sporadic higher temps and worse GPU performance.
@@phillipmartinez2436 But what about noise levels? Is it as quiet or quieter than your Wraith Stealth cooler?
Would this work on a LGA1151 cpu socket?
Also I'm using a core i7 9700k, would this cooler cool the i7 well?
Yes
I fill like the ninja 5 is a good cooler but another great cooler or coolers are thermalright’s macho in all its variants especially the le grand which is better than the noctua nh-d15. And I would’ve loved to see the macho rev b in this its around $50. I have the macho rev b on a 2700x and the macho sbm on a 3770k the sbm is a great cooler for cases with less clearance for height it has 120mm fans while the rest have 140mm and they are very quiet. I build rigs all the time and have 7 right now and i just built a 5820k 1070ti build and found out my h100i v2 is not working tried everything still getting 68c idle reseated and repasted more than once pretty sure the pump is dying. It’s still under warranty but im gonna get an air cooler and I thought about the ninja 5. I just hope it fits i have corsair lpx ram 4 sticks with an asus x99 pro 3.1 motherboard. I didn’t want to spent much more than $50 because its just a spare rig and it doesn’t have to have the best just something i can do 4.4-4.5ghz on the 5820k.
I'd love to see if there is any performance increase with say a Noctua higher RPM fan or if it's not worth it.
Noctua makes great fans, but they are expensive. Scythe makes high quality air coolers that are almost as good as Noctua, but a much better value!
@@johnsmith-gs4qf I just wonder how it will perform with a fan that isn't just 800 RPM.
i got ninja 5.. its 100% wirth it
Shucks, one small comment. When you move (and twist) the camera around it sometimes gives me a bit of motion sickness :(
The most underrated cooler ever,and also hard to find in my country
i once bought him, was too big but had very good quality
4:00 you can get a scythe fans in an slim form factor. Just replace one of those fans... I would replace the back case fan with a slim scythe
I fully agree with asdf4455Gamez
(directly below). You do a professional grade job and -- much like the Scythe Ninja 5 cooler you review here -- you yet don't seem to get the attention you deserve. Well, I'm going to change all that -- I have SUBSCRIBED! :D Best of luck, my friend, and keep up the excellent work. I'll see you in the next video... :)
So the thing is this. You could switch the fans with any fans.
1:23 remaining not too tall?
The heatsink alone is skyscraping
Too good review for this world.
"Cool Quietly and Carry a Big Heatsink" :D (gotta respect a guy who can paraphrase Teddy Roosevelt)
you should dark mod your graphs. when you watch in the dark it hurt when you are not ready
I have one . Dude , that is not mid range . For the price probably , but judging on performance it's high end . If it had 1200rpm option it would be head to head with the more expensive models +-3°C . Mid range coolers are single tower , and usually 4 heatpipes , around 25-40$ . I originally wanted the best air cooler, the Noctua NH D15 , but i saved around 39$ , and lost 5°C (at full load only , idle temps are pretty much the same and irrelevant at about 40°C)
Pretty good deal imo .
please using chart instead graph... it's hard to understand
Will it be able to be compatible with Ryzen 5 2600-3600x?
Yes, it has the AM4 mounting bracket for Ryzen CPU's.
I have a quad lumi. I heard they went out of business. Not sure. It's a pretty good cooler though.
Oh and it doesn't block the RAM. Which is great. I like seeing and looking at my ram.
whats the difference between ninja 5 and fuma 2
If you use the same fans on both coolers, the Ninja 5 comes on top !
It looks like something is wrong with your graphs. How do you have lower noise levels (x-axis) at higher temps (y-axis). Shouldn't the higher temps have higher noise from the fans running faster?
Higher temps are when fans run slow and quiet. Lower temps are when fans run fast and loud.
@@HardwareScientist so you're running it under load but limiting fan speed? That would make sense then.
@@bjaurelio Yeah heat stays the same, while fan speeds change.
I threw some high rpm no that fans on it, waiting to put it on the 5950x
If u get better fans will perform better.
this cooler is evaluated the best cost performance in Japan.
if you change kaze flex 1200rpm or 1800rpm, this gets more performance.
And with higher Rpm fans it will cool even better i think? :D
Not much better, this coolers strength is the large size.
Is this better than the Scythe Fuma 2?
yes if you change the fans
You have this for $60 - then you have CORSAIR who are charging $100 for more or less almost the same thing. The only difference is that the Corsair comes with two premium maglev fans instead of their PoS SP fans.
Those loudness benchmarks are confusing. They start at the highest temperature which is opposite of what is intuitive. Then noise levels actually increase with decreasing temperatures. Like what? It is difficult first to visualize that you manually set fans and heat it up CPU to a certain point and then slowly increase fan speed. I think that for a casual user, real life benchmark would be more useful. First benchmark should be how cooler performs out of the box on real life loads. Just let it work and record audio.
145 dba? Isn't this beyond what is permissible for the human ear?
If you were using some nude Ram sticks, this would hide the shame.
212 cooler master is a common choice for an air cooler. i would like to know how this one stacks up to it.
I like Cooler Master cases, but their coolers are much harder to install than Scythe (which are the easiest IMHO)!
I bought this after looking at the 212's numbers. Good for the money but not good enough to beat this one.
I stick with noctua cuz it wins !
Psycrow
This was not a competition, it was a review !!
@@voyager4328 I prefer Scythe because they give you an air cooler almost as cool as a Noctua, but at 1/2 the price (they are a great bang-for-the-buck cooler)!
A Noctua at that price point, I don't think so & too ugly though they do cool for sure.
it hurts my feelings when i see him bending down his gpu at 1:55
Hey
40k reference
Hang on... It comes with a screwdriver?!
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Alongside the pointed out miss of "what PWM setting/RPM are those coolers set to?", there's also another missing factor in your current format; czcams.com/video/cFICTlMZWiY/video.html
Namely, what *is* the heatload that is being demonstrated - what CPU (core count), voltage (Power Draw is better if you have the tools), and whether or not the heatspreader of the CPU is bottlenecked by the thermal interface between it (the IHS) and the silicon.
All of these factors are important for the performance picture of the cooler, and here's why using my own system as an example:
My current system is an i5-4690k (4 cores) which I can crank up to 4.8 GHz at 1.4v (a non-catastrophic amount of wattage) - but it is not delidded and is bottlenecked by having a thick layer of glue and thermal paste between the silicon and the IHS.
What this means is that due to the non-catastrophic amount of total heat, one could easily use a smaller cooler than this Phanteks PH-TC14PE monstrum and have perfectly acceptable performance.
It keeps the CPU around 70 C while cranked, and this temperature is unlikely to go down with the application of a better thermal interface due to the existence of the Silicon->IHS bottleneck on my CPU.
Overall, my non-delidded i5-4690k would be an alright demonstration of an easy-to-cool scenario with a hard overclocking limit of 4.8 GHz due to the Silicon->IHS bottleneck - as the difference in heat output between 4.7 GHz and 4.8 reaches the point of exponential growth, and nothing besides sub-ambient shenanigans would cool the entire thing down enough due to its presence.
Higher core-count processors (such as the recent Intel 6 or 8 core ones, or a Ryzen 2700) which are either delidded with liquid metal applied, or soldered outright, output enough heat when cranked hard enough to overwhelm coolers which would otherwise seem to be excellent performers on kinder heatloads - such as my own trusty quad-core.
Examples of fantastic price/performance heatsinks which fall off a cliff once you pit them against monster CPUs are things like the legendary Coolermaster Hyper 212 EVO, and I think even the elusive "lightning during a clear sky" Reeven Justice price/performance monster (that nobody seems to talk about) falls flat once enough muscle is thrown at it - though perhaps some beefier fans could save the latter due to its six heatpipes.
Under those conditions, unimpressive, massive heatsinks (like my current three-fan behemoth) would suddenly not look so unimpressive in performance after all - seeing that they would still do just as good of a job as they did on a lesser CPU.
As a final side note, I expect the new Ryzen 3000 processors to be an interesting overclocking case, as they might not have an extremely hard frequency wall of 4.2 GHz found in Zen+ (or 3.95 for Zen 1).
Which combined with the insane heat density of 7nm processor chips and the lack of a bad Silicon->IHS bottleneck, should give some interesting results between the 6, 8 and the 12 core processors.
Particularly since I've read that the 3950x (featuring two 4+4 core chiplets) tops out at 5.275 GHz on LN2, whereas the 12-core (featuring two 3+3 core chiplets) I've heard almost go up to 6 under the same conditions.
good luck