Too Quiet: Scythe Ninja 5 CPU Cooler Review vs. FUMA 2, Noctua, & Liquid Coolers
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- After reviewing the Scythe FUMA 2 relatively positively, we're now benchmarking the Scythe Ninja 5 CPU air cooler. This is a massive cooler and rivals the Noctua NH-D15 in size, but is cheaper.
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In these benchmarks, we're testing the Scythe Ninja 5 CPU cooler versus other "best" CPU coolers we've tested thus far. The Ninja 5 goes up against Scythe's own FUMA 2, but we also test the Ninja 5 with the FUMA 2 fans to see if it improves on the charts. Additionally, we're testing the Noctua NH-D15, Deepcool Assassin III, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280, and plenty more. We're slowly building-out the list of tested devices and will continue our search for the best CPU coolers.
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00:00 - Scythe Ninja 5 Bigboi Air Cooler
03:39 - Scythe Marketing & Claims
06:12 - Ninja 5 Mechanics & Design
08:45 - Ninja 5 Mounting Instructions & Installation
12:01 - Coldplate Surface Pressure & Distribution
13:23 - 200W Heat Load 35dBA Noise-Normalized Benchmarks
17:49 - Scythe Ninja 5 VRM Thermal Benchmarks
18:49 - 100% Fan Speed Benchmarks on Scythe Ninja 5
19:46 - Coldplate Flatness for Ninja 5
20:21 - 125W Heat Load 35dBA Benchmarks & Noise
21:25 - Time-to-Max Thermal Testing
21:57 - Conclusion vs. FUMA 2
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G'day Steve, 2:55 That Corsair A500 not even worth $27 burn was hotter than the Sun
Hey Steve, I was looking at the cooling chart for the 200W 3950X load, and I saw that the EK AIO equaled the arctic liquid freezer with worse fans and a thinner radiator. Do you believe that the EK AIO is being helped by it's superior pump (I dont know if the pump is superior), or is it something else, like the radiator being more dense?
do you read my mind, i was searching cpu coolers 2 days ago and i never do that xd
will there be anymore medium modmats?...the size is perfect for my desk
My First CPU cooler was a Scythe product. It lasted 10 years of near 24/7 use. At the time my computer was always doing something. Now not so much. I still have 2 fans from Scythe that are still working about 15 years later.
"Too Quiet". I thought you were trolling when I couldn't hear any sound from the video. I just forgot to unmute...
Lmao 🤣
That would've been a pretty good gag.
So now we have Be quiet and Too quiet.
clear your browser history
8:36 “It’s not quite sure if it wants to be active or passive”. Ah! A cooler after my own heart! No wonder it’s so popular.
it's popular, cuz the old 2009 ones were good before they botched the name, and CPUs went watt-hog on them, lol. the ninja5 is NOTHING like the old ones.
@@Zarcondeegrissom You got it. They were living off NIDEC’s reflected glory.
@@georgemorley1029 Ninja 4 was actually excellent, almost topping the chart in noise-normalized tests against coolers with similar price. Ninja 5 looks nothing like it... 😕
Damn boy there's children here! :'D
GN Steve: "The Ninja 5 is unnecessarily quiet."
Scythe: "Silence!"
Ay keel u
Be quiet: "be quiet!"
Sillence is golden....
I like Steve's and Co's work, but I respectfully disagree with this review. I'm a silent PC AND audio enthusiast, and run all my case fans around 350rpm during gaming, and Ninja 5 at around 70-80% to hear absolutely nothing from my PC case. I have a combination of Kaze Flex and Noctua fans, and I've tested multiple fans and coolers, but at 600-800rpm my CPUs were always running too hot and loud with other setups. Silent PC enthusiasts know that Ninja 5 has the performance of D15 at a much lower price, and that is why it's popular. Not because it can perform well at 35db, or 40db, but because it performs well at 30db. Those 5db are incredibly important if you game in a silent environment with a fantastic sound system (such as Dynaudio Special 40s and Denon 2500NE *bragging*)
I'm not into gaming with a headset on, and never will, I game with a big TV, PC attached to it, and superb stereo audio set up, and I want to hear every single small sound as detailed as possible. For that, coolers like this are essential. This is also why I hate the new GPUs (had to change my 3080 to a 3070 and undervolt it significantly), because they have horrible coil whines. I might be an ADHD, but I am incredibly sensitive to sound, and any disturbance takes me away from the gaming experience immediately. I know there are a lot of people like that out there, and this review is not for you. The methodology used here is geared towards performance, and performance only, so the metrics show results that are not relative and imporant for silent PC enthusiasts. Sure, you can run D15 at 700rpm to reach the same level of silence, but it costs you more. And that is the point of Ninja 5.
@@MadViking82 You sound obsessed. ( think of me as the voice in your head ) You have already pointed out that you have plenty of money *bragging* so its on point to ask if it was ignorant (definition not insult) not to water cool if you are this concerned with noise. Did your uncontrollable obsessions force you away from water out of misguided fear? On the bright side: some time in your 40s your ears will lose the ability to hear high frequency coil whine. Or worse, you get the constant ringing like I did from the abuse incured while winning USACi trophies back in the 90s.
5:51
IMO, in this specific instance, I believe the purpose of showing the RAM modules where they are is for clearance purposes mainly, as the two sticks closer to the CPU are the one affected.
Saying that they fir a high spreader RAM and not into those slots would be correct, but not representative of the point they want to make.
Comment for the algorithm folks. These guys put in a ton of work for each of their videos.
Aight, you asked for it
And what's more impressive, they've only worked harder, adding more and new different tests as they've grown. $8000 worth of pressure testing gear for cold plate evenness? What other channel thinks of that and goes "Yeah, we need that!"? Just Gamers Nexus.
For the algorithm and responsible content!
This comment is perfectly balanced with zero exploits XD
all my homies listen to tech jesus
I think Kaze should be pronounced as "ka-ze" because its japanese for wind. I think.
Thanks!
The Mugen is pronounced "Moo - gein", meaning limitless. Fuma means "wind spirit"
@@matasa7463 I wonder if it would be closer to 'mu-gehn', which changes the 'e' sound sufficiently but doesn't introduce a very American sounding, diphthongization as does 'gein'. I don't know.
Yep, I was a bit mifffed by that as well.
@@matasa7463 like, Mugen train?
I love how Steve has to explain the "fairly well" is a good review from them lol. I think the best I've heard him rate a case is either "acceptable" or "just ok".
I believe there's actually a reason for the "badly" placed RAM sticks in the marketing, its purpose was to show compatibility, not how to build a computer IMHO
Yeah I agree with you. But tbh they should've just put in all 8 sticks... It's not like they can't afford it
@@scheimong true
@@Shishou_Shi true, though and
IMHO that's expecting too much of brands and marketing people. Generally speaking this is "political level" of thinking (e.g. don't show or say this in "this way" cause it might be interpreted "this other way")
Loving the return to air coolers thank you GN!
Lots more to test, too!
@@GamersNexus Need to see the test of Thermalright's coolers!
Yes I did mine on the rebuild of my 2016 system to a smaller form factor. I might stick to it on my next ATX build if I can ever get the parts like the processor and video card
@@GamersNexus Any plan on testing the Arctic Freezer 34 Duo? Looks like a good value.
Love that you are reviewing these more affordable coolers!
We're working on it! Our goal is to start working down towards the $30 range, too.
@@GamersNexus hyper 212 hype!
@@GamersNexus Freezer 34 time.
@@GamersNexus The ID Cooling SE-224XT Basic would be really interesting if you guys wanted to check it out. Thank you for the work you do :)
@@GamersNexus Hey you can review the Corsair cooler again when you get down to $30 😁
i’d be super interested in a passive cooler test! comparing some of the massive air coolers (nhd15, drp4, ninja 5, etc) without their fans and possibly against some specifically designed passive coolers would be a really interesting piece
You need bigger spacing for convection (fanless) cooling. They won't perform nearly as well as the dedicated fanless coolers.
after watching for over a year I still get impressed by just how much you guys work on this stuff.
The fan name Kaze pronounce as Ka-ze (Japanese: かぜ) , which mean wind (風).
Thanks for that.
Honto desu ka?
Kazzzzeeeemmmeehhhhaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
💥 BOOM
You just summoned all the weaboo degens
@@rdmz135 hi im here
I really appreciate that you put tons of graphs and graphics in your videos to help convey information more accurately. Nice work! Also, I really like how you guys have timers to show when a section will be done.
7:12 Can we all just sit down and appreciate how smooth that b-roll was?
we're all already sat down, but I got up and sat down again, it really was sublime
I thought the same thing
If this was made by XFX it actually would be called "BIG BOI"
I do love their marketing. I own a Thicc III 5600xt.
the original Ninja was a 'big boy' lol. totaly fitting name for the old one that was good before they went to crap dense stamped-foil-fin stacks and CPUs went watt-hog on us all, lol.
Wouldn't it be THICC BOI? 🤣
fatboi
And the fans would fail in less than 12 months...
I'm very interested in seeing a piece about passive cooling
Definitely. Including some of the more exotic cases and their claims.
Yes, I'd love to see what its limits are and if it's feasible in a gaming PC or best left to very low power PCs with heavily ventilated side panels.
Honestly I'm interested too, but just "for fun", or "for knowledge" I'd say.
Because for my use, I would never use a passive cooler.
When Noctua passive cooler will be released, yeah I would be interested in a comparison and use cases.
"Too quiet" seems like a horrific condemnation of this cooler.
Please do the Mugen5 r2 next. It's dope for the price, I have the somewhat TUF version of it.
I picked up a Scythe Fuma2 about 6 months ago after watching some reviews on here and it does not disappoint! Works so well that I ended up completely switching back to air from AIO's! Has been nothing short of awesome. 3700x idling in mid 30s and gaming in mid 50's. All pbo limits removed! Love these videos! Always the first reviewer I search for when I am interested in a product! You definitely do the most in depth testing!!!! Thank you for the hard work and dedication and looking forward to many more videos!
Nice stats. Just swapped out my 3700X and replaced the stock cooler a while ago, but I remember the wraith cooler preparing for turbo liftoff if that cpu was heating up.
LOL Good ol wraith wasnt no joke lmao!!! Boeing 747 style! @@Leo-pd8ww
Idk if theres a video on the arctic freezer 34 esports duo but imo this cooler is a real bang for buck!
A lot of people have expressed interest in that one! We'll try and look into it when we have an opening on the schedule.
@@GamersNexus And maybe just the bog-standard freezer 34 too, for comparison, please? I’d like to know how much cooler it makes my CPU when it is an “esports” cooler so that if it makes my computer cooler, I’ll know if it’s a good idea to start playing esports or not. 😉
@@georgemorley1029 Arctic claims the black surface treatment of the finstack and heatpipes improves heat dissipation, would be a nice feature for GN to determine wether it's legit or just marketing bluff ^^ I think it also has a higher ceiling for fan RPM though.
It also has it's particular way of thermal paste application described in the manual, alongside the direct touch heat pipes, another item that GN can test how it compares with their standard thermal paste application
@@GamersNexus as it happens, I've been looking at exactly that unit myself. They claim it approaches Noctua performance.
the Freezer 34 has the problem that it doesn't cover the Ryzen heatspreader fully. For Intel it's probably some of the best value.
If the single fan version is more than 12€ cheaper than the dual fan version, just buy the single fan version and a second fan ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Love seeing more air cooler reviews again, and with that bulletproof GN testing methodology.
It's so important to have multiple points of comparable data, allowing us to decide which product best suits our needs individually.
Y'all are very appreciated.
I really like these CPU cooler reviews. Hope they keep coming, and with more manufacturers than just Scythe!
I would watch a passive cooler video for sure. Love that you are covering air cooling!
I have to admire your work ethic man. You work really hard to produce quality content. As a creator myself, i know how difficult it is to consistently make good videos. You deserve so much more success
SO true
Tech jesus
Thanks! We're really pushing to improve our overall quality this year, too. Hoping to finally add a thermal chamber toward the end of the year.
@@GamersNexus good to hear. i dreaded working with a thermal chamber, but then, maybe because the one i worked with broke down often. any plans for airflow chamber?
@@GamersNexus As always you guys go above and beyond with test gear and test methods. Really apprechiate the hard effort!
I feel like at 6:00 they were really just trying to hammer home the ram clearance
That's it precisely. Kind of the typical case of GN looking at things from a negative perspective when its really quite obvious what the manufacturer was demonstrating.
Yep. Not an install or final build guide, just a "test fit" so totally expected in an image/marketing photo (like showing shopping fits in the boot of a car, while it's parked at the office and not at the shops. :P ).
Yes, obviously. Should have used 4 sticks per side, then. It's not great to show improperly built computers even as a demo.
@@GamersNexus If you're still making a case, do you think it will be ready by Q1 2023?
@@gheetza14 who knows. All that we know right now that itll most likely be out one day
8:28 Ah yes my favorite tradeshow: "Computer"
lol I didn't notice that at first, wonder what that tradeshow is all about?
@@smallhatshatethetruth7933 coputers clearly
GN: complains about attention to detail when misspelling product names
Also GN: can't spell computex.
Saving up to get some of your cool merch to support the channel. Love the amount of work and information you put in all your videos. Keep it up! :)
Eagerly awaiting the Mugen 5 review
rev b!Should be better than this one!
Mugen 5? isn't that the ancient thing they keep alive for years now?
Pls mugen rev. B review
YEP I just bought one with an extra fan for my i9 10850k not planning on doing any overcloking hopefully be good.
I bought the Mugen 5, and have on order the Scythe Wonder Snail fan that is stated to push air in a focused pattern. My hope is to overcome what Steve talked about here, not enough air moving over the fins. I won’t know until the rest of my parts arrive and I put the two (one for me, one for the wife) Ryzen 5950x machines together.
This is great not only reviewing what makes the power but instead how you should cool your parts and providing a in depth review of what you should get for what your use case is.
Your reviews are just on another level and I just wanted to know that we appreciate it, we appreciate how much work you guys out in these reviews .
You have no idea of how long have I been waiting for this particular one. Great job as always.
13:52 "Revolutionary Headroom" sounds like some protest band.
Watch out its a silent ninja kind of like snowflake in the chair testing.
how does this have no replies
We need more coole reviews!!
Thank you for detailed testing. Its nice that you got to more reasonably priced products
I really liked how you guys handled the Mechanics & Design portion of the video. Visually showing dimensions + the panning transitions looks great and is useful for those who need to check compatibility!
Commenting for the algorithm primarily, but in the B-roll for the Noctua passive cooler the footnote says "Computer 2019" instead of Computex
COMPUTER?
@@GamersNexus at the 8:25 mark in the bottom left corner
lol I missed that
Hey kid, help computer!
@@GamersNexus weird, right? IDK what that is either.
I really appreciate how thorough and vigilant you are when reviewing products. You give the facts and not the BS marketing stuff.
I loved my scythe mini ninja CU. All copper cooler and kept a Q8200 in check passive inside an Antec Fusion HTPC case just using two noctua fans on the case. Glad to see they’re still about!
What an incredibly detailed review! This was awesome!
I gotta say, I replaced my Hyper Evo 212X with this cooler, and instead of using the included Kaze fans, I attached the Hyper Evo's 2 fans. each fan is 2000 RPM vs the Kaze 800 RPM. What a difference. With the right fans, this cooler would absolutely rival the Noctua DH15 in terms of cooling. It has allowed me to daily drive an i7-8700K at 5GHz on all cores. without ever exceeding 65C except for the heaviest of CPU loads. For way less. Scythe has become my go-to cooler, I just wish their websites spelled words rigt. :P
I have the Ninja 5 with the stock Kaze 120 fans on a new Ryzen 5 5600X stock at 4.6Ghz and new MX-4 thermal paste
I have it in a good airy case with just 2 intake fans front and 1 outtake at the back (Arctic P12 PWM) which spin at 700-1000RPM idle to gaming. The ninja 5 is ALWAYS silent. Sure, its because of the low RPM Kaze 120 fans, which spin from 300 to 800RPM max that mostly spin in my case at 370RPM idle and yes, I cant hear them even when the case is open and my ears are 10cm from the cooler (insane silence). My RAM is at 3600Mhz (btw higher RAM frequency causes the CPU to have higher temps) and the GPU has mostly 45C and the fans don't spin, so it releases heat into the case. Now you can somehow imagine my build.
All monitored thru HWMonitor, Open Hardware Monitor and GPU-Z
Just to clarify - I'm VERY satisficed with the Ninja 5
This test doesn't exclusively say its bad, its just that most coolers have fans that spin faster - that's the summary of this review. This video praises the silence, but critiques the lack of cooling because of the fans. My CPU temp at room temp 20C at idle is 45C. In games I have 55C, so not much change and soon after gaming it goes back down - still with no audible sound. One can change the fans, but doesnt have to.
Ninja 5 is definitely one of the top CPU coolers under 100$
So, if I don't care about silence, throw a delta fan on here...
*server rack takes off like an Apache helicopter*
@@eggcopter BRUTE FORCE COOLING POWAH!
I remember the first time I powered up a new workstation that was supposed to be both incredibly powerful and, according to the marketing wank, quiet. Well, it failed at giving a good first impression as the massive fans started up at max power and stayed there throughout the POST only to suddenly drop to what by then sounded like it was very quiet indeed just before starting to load the OS. It had six 120 mm 10K RPM fans, so full power sounded a lot like it was spooling up for take off...
Not quite what we had expected from a "quiet" workstation.
@@tomstech4390 Fine, no Delta fans, I'll go with my old school Panaflos.
lol, thing is, that ninja5 has changed so much from the 2009 ninja things, and CPUs have watt-creeped from 65-watt things to over 300-watts now, I'm not sure it's worth wasting the effort of putting deltas on it, lol. for once I'm with Steve, just get a better cooler before you bother with modding, at least give your mods a snowball chance in hell of working, lol.
Scythe always seemed to be popular (at least to me) as a kinda budget option but generally preformed pretty well for price.
Really great info, thank you guys for such in-depth, thorough testing.
My Dis-2020 t-shirt arrived today! I love it, thanks guys!
I have a ninja 5 and I love it! I had to replace the kaze fans with artic p120's and it solves the the air pressure problem.
Yeah it's a massive tower I swapped out the old fans on the Ninja 4 with some SP fans from Corsair and my temps dropped a bit... not enough airflow through the vast plates of metal
Joe Camel, how much cooler did your CPU run after replacing, how many degrees ? I'm thinking of replacing fans too. Or maybe cut a gap in the middle and move one of the original fans there. Or maybe just sell the cooler, put a few more bucks and get a more efficient one. I'm currently looking to OC a 10900k.
@@blindguardian8599 I'm running an 8700k @ 5.0 and temps never go higher than 60. With 2 p120 fans from artic.
I hope you do the mugen rev B before moving on to other brands, I think I picked the best price to performance one scythe makes
Mugen Max and Ashura are 140 Fan heatsinks, Mugen 5, Mugen RevB, Ninja, Fuma are 120.
I have an Ashura on a 8350 at 5.0GHz.
Also a higher stating pressure fan would work on higher fin densities.
I like Scythe, Thermalright and Zalman compared to overrated obnoctous.
Showing pressure distribution is actually pretty cool, I would love to see more tests on coolers with it
The flavour text for the "cat ad" made my morning. Thanks GN!
Your channel is the reason I can build a PC confidently. You run the lab for the people!
Interesting, would like to see a review of the scythe ninja 5. Its an- shit I missed the window I hope I still get paid.
Keep up the great content!
Great video :D The visuals are so professional!!!
Awesome content piece, would love to see the Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4 be added to the list of tested air coolers next.
i still would like to see these coolers with noctua fans on them since they dont hit the noise limit just to see if its the fans or the cooler being the week point
I like to imagine Scythe coming up to Steve to show him the crayon drawing of a heatsink they created, and him just blowing his nose with it and handing their drawing back to them.
Lmao. This is too good
@@8lec_R I've had some ninja-mini's in the distant past, I would do that with this ninja5 design, lol. I'm a fan of solid design, not some cool name on a box, lol.
Passive cooling tests with the dummy heater sounds great! Hope you will do it at some point.
Thanks! I like how you explained how the fan pressure needs to be enough to reach through a dense cooler like this and why Noctua and other split the cooler stacks for a center fan.
I've had one for 2 years, running most of the time at 400RPM on a regular Ryzen 2600 and it's absolutely stellar. You guys make it sound like it's a bad cooler because you're using thermals with a high noise ceiling for testing. Your #1 criteria is obviously thermal performance, as the target is high power rigs. But you're just having the wrong demographic for the right product. And don't give me some "but you can run the other fans at lower speeds" nonsense. The noise to temperature curve isn't linear at all, and harmonics are important to how noise is perceived. There's pretty much nothing better on the market if you're into near-silent builds.
I'd be interested in a passive cooling benchmark of this vs the giant reverse mounted heatsink vs the upcoming noctua passive cooler as a standalone piece
Your camera work is amazing on this video.
Your Cooler Reviews are by far the best on CZcams and i would appreciat it if you could display the Prices of the Coolers in your Charts so you can have a better Price/Performance Comparison on the first look.
Hope you guys testing some Top Blower Coolers too
G'day Steve,
it is crazy the Corsair is only $27USD, here in Sydney, Australia it is still $159AUD
Le Grand Macho RT, because I'm macho and erm ray traced. Looking forward to the Noctua Fanless in Q2.
i like the new camera work and editing in this video
Thanks for the effort as always guys!
With the passive Noctua cooler upcoming, it would be great to see this one compared to it in 35W and 65W loads
I'd be interested in a passive cooler review. Also is this cooler good enough that if you put some Nactua 3000RPM fans that it would be worth it.
Great video as always. Best place on youtube for in depth tech analysis with a hint of sass.
Nice vídeo Steve! Long time ago wanna see that cooler in your reviews
You guys should definitely give arctics air coolers some chance too
I’m moderately interested in the low wattage results but this cooler wouldn’t fit the form factor or socket I’m working with so it doesn’t matter as much. Good video mate!
I really appreciate that you guys keep expanding your test range of air coolers. Would it be possible for you to look at some low profile coolers for cases with limited width. I came across this topic when I built my Lian Li O11 Dynamic system with an air cooler. It was really hard to find information here in the depth that you guys provide.
Keep up the good work and stay well.
Edit: I don't mean blow down coolers. I'am referring to low tower coolers.
Great info thanks. Yep would love to get some passive cooler reviews
Curious to see how this works passively on modern CPUs, the ninja 5 has been around a looooonnnggg time ( at least in computer years )
Damn, the b-roll has leveled up
Kudos to the camera shooters for the smooth and epic shots. I'm loving it. 👌🏻
Thank you for showing the important connection between marketing and technical performance. The professional in me greatly appreciates it
Would love for you to test your chart all with the same fan.
Would be great to know if say, the Arctic 360 is only the best because it's using better fans than the other liquid coolers.
Or if this giant monstrosity could actually outperform anything if it had fans as good as the noctuas.
makes me wonder why steeve doesnt also use a standardised fan. i know most would keep the fan the it comes with . but there are also alot that would upgrade the fan/s
The fact that the Ram placement pisses you off is the reason I watch this channel.🤙🏼
I think a passive cooler test would be awesome to do once the Noctua one releases. Test ones that seem to be specifically designed for passive cooling vs standard towers without their fans.
Swear the work y'all do is amazing in quality keep it up!!
Scythe coolers are great, I used this cooler in a pc I built for my dad a while ago. Extremely high quality, just felt good in the hand and good price.
Any chance you guys would put the Thermalright Le Gran Macho RT through your wringer?
It's not so good for the price.
@@Djare915 I have consumed all available technical reviews on the cooler and it is currently being used in one of my PCs. It's actually very good. In some cases it has matched D15 performance in my experiences. I simply wanted to see how it performed specifically in GN's gauntlet.
Steve, would love to see a few of the Be Quiet air coolers tested. Dark Rock Pro 4 and maybe one of the budget coolers. Great work from your team as always.
Man! This guy's channel is so professional! Thanks a lot
I would LOVE a passive cooler, some 6 core low watt chip series that one can undervolt.
Since y'all are taking suggestions from the comments section, do the IceGiant Prosiphon Elite next!
Feed the algorithm! Great stuff as always GN team, keep up the awesome work.
Great content and solid testing!
A passive liquid cooler test would be interesting to see.
Can't happen water needs to flow..
@@smartgorilla I phrased my sentence wrong. I meant to say "a no fan liquid cooler test". Pump running, fans off.
@@mihnea7 that would so die I think
Legit in 10 years heat sinks will be the size of computer cases
The case will be the cooler
I couldve sworn it's partially been done before. I forget the name but I think it was from a popular, but maybe no longer exist, Korean brand case maker from the past. Off to google.
Zalman TNN 500AF: www.quietpc.com/tnn500af -- completely fanless
@@ffwast some do in the fanless ones.
@@ffwast linus has a few videos about silent pcs that have heatpipes connected to the case which works as a big ass heatsink
Maybe case manufacturers can make a case that has more room on the ceiling. Heatsinks cannot grow any more size down, or left, or right, the only way to get a bigger heatsink is up.
Thank you for this review- purchased one of these for a 5800x - was underwhelmed by its ability to shed heat from a 100w part with a moderate OC. Regularly seeing temps in the upper 60’s during gaming. Returning mine to AZ in favor of the 280mm Arctic cool AIO. Thanks for all the data - it made the choice a no brainer.
I like the B-roll/editing in the mechanics/design section.
How can you forget to test this with NOCTUA FANS?! Makes a HUGE difference!
Two NF-A12X25's cost almost the same as the Ninja 5 lol.
Maybe Arctic P12's but you're already at the price range of other coolers that are probably better choices out of the box.
@@ailluinthethyra6139 I didn't post that comment for people who are buying cpu coolers with price in mind, but for people who want the best.
Out of the box you maybe have better coolers, but when you think out of the box ;) .... you can get a golden combination!
@@nathalyberko1139 Well the answer to that is Cooler Master ML360 Sub-Zero Cyro Cooler.
I don't think the Ninja 5 will beat that whatever fan you slap onto it.
I wanted to see this just out of curiosity to know how it would work.
i have this cooler with 2 NOCTUA FANS on it, keeps my cpu cooler then a water cooler i had on it. i love the Scythe Ninja 5 with good fans it kick BUT, STOCK FANS IT STINKS
i wonder how this would do with static pressure fans like p12’s
Maybe not because air coolers need airflow, NOT static pressure
Why not test f12 pst and P12 pst on this cooler?
Buzz man, they need both. As stated several times in the video, this heatsink has issues that are partly the result of using low static pressure fans. ( 7:55 and 18:24 are 2 specific examples where they state the fans don't have enough pressure to push/pull air through the wide fin stack.)
@@buzzman4860 Thats actually false. Static pressure fans are specifically designed to create airflow while overcoming the resistance a heatsink, radiator or dust filter provides.
Non-static pressure fans are more efficient in applications where there is low to zero resistance, like as case exhaust fans. But just because they are also called "airflow" fans, does not mean static pressure fans dont provide airflow. They do. Especially p12 and p14 fans are quite decent at creating airflow, even when there is low to no resistance.
also arctic use their p-line of fans on their own tower coolers and not their f-line.
Hey Steve, long-time subscriber/supporter of Gamers Nexus here, lol. I would love to see both a passive cpu cooler and after market GPU cooler (something like the artic) review.
Those bullet-time moving shots were really cool
I wonder, if it would improve performance, if the sides were closed off, to force the air through the whole stack ...
Probably. My NHD15 has a 90 degree bend at the edge of each fin and the bent metal closes the gap to the next fin essentially doing what you stated.
It's designed to have a fan attached in any of the 4 sides. They have diagrams with push pull from the GPU and exhausting at the top of the case, instead of your standard from the front of the case.
@@pepsik2700 I don't think so ... it seems that the whole heatsink can be rotated by 90°, but only on certain Intel sockets. Also it only has the grooves for the fan brackets on 2 sides.
I was kind of surprised that you never mentioned or included the Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4. It pretty much trades blows with the Noctua D15 and has better clearance for most cases.
In most of reviews I have seen it is worse than D15 by couple of degrees, putting it at roughly Fuma 2 level
@@dainiusvysniauskas2049 every single review I have seen has it much better than the Fuma 2, but what is more relevant is their reasons for not even mentioning it.
@@ghost_of_m403 It can't be "much better" than Fuma 2 because that would make it substantially better than D15, which is absolutely not the case :)
Judging from most of the reviews I have seen, they seem on par - in some reviews DRP4 wins, in other reviews Fuma 2 wins. However, I do not really remember seeing a noise normalized review like GN does, so it is hard to compare the results (just comparing coolers at 1000 RPM does not mean they operate at the same noise level).
Great review. I would like to see how it performs with a higher pressure fan. I get that it'd be better to get a better cooler from the get go but I'd be interesting to see how this specific larger heatsink would perform with better fans since it seems like a very frequent real case scenario.
This was a beast of a review. Thanks for sharing your testing.