RTX 3080 Temperature Testing... Not the result we expected
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- čas přidán 26. 09. 2020
- A lot of people expected the 3080 FE cooler to cause issues for the CPU... but we didn't expect it to actually HELP cool the CPU...
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yes warm air can cool your parts if the parts are hotter than the warm air... thermals!
It may not make sense when you read it, but it does make sense in reality
Don't bring actual science and conscious thought into this. Its an internet discussion. Sci-fi rules and arguments only.
I don't fully understand this, so forgive me if I am wrong, but doesn't cool air well cool the CPU faster.
@@venomcuregaming6734 The answer is yes. The issue is how much cooler the air would have been otherwise and how much of a difference that would make given the temperature differential that will already be needed for heat to leave the CPU and move down the heat pipes. Traditional graphics cards already dump most of their heat into the case. The claim was that the configuration of this GPU fan would somehow direct hotter more concentrated air directly to your CPU cooler intake. This always seemed silly and far fetched to me, and testing confirms. GPUs put heat into your case. Warm case air still cools your CPU. If you really want to optimize this beyond what is practical you need more case fans and not a different GPU fan.
WITCHCRAFT
Its almost like NVIDIA knew what they were doing when they designed the cooler...
Historically they haven't though
@@CreativityNull they could. I think it was more of play of maximizing profits. They are worth hundreds of billions. They could easily R&D this to death but haven't...until now.
@@CreativityNull Yea fair enough
@@Real28 They probably don't bother because FE cards make up a small amount of overall sold cards.
I think they focus more on there cooling design than the performance.
For the first time I actually want a Founder's Edition card over third party.
Two degree difference where all fans are locked. Meanwhile, the EVGA card would have likely been able to ramp up its fans to a higher RPM and remained quieter while also bringing the temps down to a similar level, on top of the EVGA customer service and warranty which is far better than what you get from Nvidia directly. This video doesn't prove that the FE has a better cooler, it just proves that it's not causing the CPU to heat up like most expected. It's dumb to do a "controlled" test where two distinctly different coolers are forced to run under the same situation and claim one is superior. The test needs to actually be done where the fans are allowed to run where they need to for cooling, or simply make custom curves.
@@Neonmirrorblack I agree it would be good to let them run as they are meant to in a separate test. I agree that we aren't seeing their potential here, even though I understand why it was done this way. Even doing the 40db regulated testing doesn't show the apparent noise to our ears. 40db of one frequency can be much more tolerable to our ears than another frequency. All of these tests are helpful to create a picture, and provide comparison points, but a lot of it is still up to personal preference.
nothing wrong with 1xxx or 2xxx series FE cards.
Neonmirrorblack it was a 15 degree difference on the GPU. And a 3 degree difference on the cpu. The FE was significantly more efficient at cooling. Idc what handicaps there were, a 15 degree difference with higher clocks on the FE shows it is clearly superior. Actually watch the video before blatantly lying in the comment section
@@sainttrill1165 You are missing the point. This test was for the CPU, where the difference was a few degrees and both GPUs were forced to run with the same fan limitations. The EVGA card is a triple fan card that would have been able to equal the cooling of the FE had it been allowed to ramp up its fans, which would *have also* run quieter due to the simple nature of there being three fans. The EVGA card is hotter because it's being bottlenecked. It's fine that "you don't care" what the handicaps were, which is great if you want a completely flawed comparison.
Jay: 5 degrees lower on GPU is big jump
Me with my vertically mounted Vega 57: *removes side window* temps lower 25 degrees
That dust build up though :/
I want vertical but the reviews I've seen for the gen 4 is mixed :(
My 2080super never goes over 60c vertically mounted glass off custom fan curve
@@randomhobbies5796 You may aswell not even have a case if you're gonna leave the side panel off
why would you mount it vertically, it looks like shit..
Turns out the company with engineers and researchers knows more than a bunch of random people on the internet.
The founder edition coolers are historically bad though, that's why this is actually newsworthy
Yeah, what a surprise.
@@themeeka That's true. Knowledge may be present in a company but it's up to management how to use it. With the old models Nvidia probably gave the assignment: It has to be "this" size, must work well in a factory prebuilt, must cost no more than "this" to produce and the assignment must be done in two days (or even worse: "repurpose this old server cooler"). With those restrictions (especially the time) the product will inevitably be "reasonable but not great". The difference is probably that engineers are now given the opportunity to work their magic and create something good.
shocking
@@themeeka Thats because the past years they made the minimum level cooler. This year they modified the minimum and made a custom one of their own.
Hey man. I started trade school in August for IT. One of the first assignments was to watch a video on someone taking apart a PC, and your “UNbuilding” a PC video was the one I watched. I’ve never watched stuff about computers or even had the interest in the schooling, I’m just doing it for the guaranteed work. But after watching that video I spent the remaining of the 5 hours in class watching your videos. I’ve become so interested in this world of PC development and I wanted to thank you for helping me develop this interest! Keep doing what you’re doing my friend
thats all you have to do for IT?
Idiot Chef he said he recently started.
bohboli i thought you were insulting him at first with a rare insult
@@Ross-ow1ld The word Idiot Chef is a common insult, duh.
@@Kipx99 Depends where you live
JAY: "It's 71 degrees fahrenheit here, and whatever that is in Celsius... pffhg and away." *continuous to do all the temp testing in Celsius..
Celsius is the way to go.
its always sensible to use Celsius anyway because red zone for pc parts is around 90 to 100 C. make a lot of sense.
@@croness91 that's just coincidence actually
I'm the same way as Jay is when it comes to temps! If I'm checking my room temp or the temp outside, I use Fahrenheit! If I'm checking the status of my GPU or CPU while gaming, testing something, or just curious of what it is atm, I use Celsius. Don't ask me why though, its just the way my brain works lol!
Metric System Masterrace!
"Heat is going to generate heat" - JayzTwoCents
He ain't wrong though. :)
that's the plan....
"People die if they are killed" - Emiya Shirou
You don't say...
The floor is made out of floor
“I mainly use this system to play World of Warships while Phil is working.”
It’s good to be the king!
I LIKE BOATS!! lmao that always cracks me up.
Poor Phil
I LIKE BOATS! followed by the ifixit ad and explosions
@@dakotah9266 fix your friend with ifixit!!!!!! Hahahaha
Hey....I like ships too lol (See screen name) lol
It's obvious that nvidia's technicians are more educated than the guys who are spreading these rumors. Therefore, if they come up with any sort of unnatural designs, it must be for good reasons....
Manufacturers have made many silly mistakes before, so I can understand not taking their word on everything, but this was pretty easy to understand: A card which exhausts more air will likely make the case cooler than one which dumps most of the heat inside the case.
You would think that but im sure there has been countless examples where video card technicians messed up. For example remember when EVGAs cards (I think 900 series or 1000) basically "blew up" cos their cooling was trash.
And now we have this potential Caps problem though It's not 100% yet (EVGA seemed to confirm it but yeah I dont think it is solely the caps)
So whilst what you say makes complete sense in reality mistakes happen and companies can't be trusted, which is why we should wait to see it in action.
You're talking about the people rumoured to have greenlit a design for partners that have rumoured extensive crashing issue.
@@gunnar6674 Silly mistakes are usually because the manufacturer was trying to do something quick and cheap, not because they didn't know what they were doing.
This can be taken sarcastically
It turned out exactly how I thought it would. I'm happy someone finally tested that.
I actually did a vertical CPU cooler orientation with my old card for the exactly same reason. The card ran hot and that way I could make use of the top fans and CPU cooler to move the hot air away from the GPU.
7:10 super interesting info for setting up fan curves thanks ! It's tempting to have the fan off until the card is 80C and then just ramp the fan to what it would normally be at 80C but from your explanation I can see why that is not so easy.
People literally thought that the card was venting heat like a volcano? LMAO
Theres plenty of forums whit users that think the exhaust air temperature is the same as gpu thermal reading on the screen.
it looks real on the thumbnail of my notifications
Q: What gets wetter the more it dries?
A: A towel.
because there are a lot of idiots now due to PC gaming becoming mainstream
@@jdwmyt wow, thats a really sad attempt at spamming "jokes" all over the comment section...
*Look, a working exposed cooler
My brain: Put your finger in it
Me: why?
My brain: you gotta!
and you always get scared then your finger hits the fan lol.
@@haydenwiseman3056 Only when I see the severed tip...
"Is this fan spinning"
**insert finger in fan noise**
"Yep..."
It's just like how you test a 9v battery...
@@haydenwiseman3056 yeah... my brain tells me to touch my 1050ti's heat sink while games are running at the backround. And whenever i hit the fan i jump like a cat
I currently have a 1070 FE and now im so excited to get the 3080 FE. Those temps are crazy good.
Thanks for the video, helps me with getting a 3080 fe for my ghost s1. Keep up the good work! Good luck on your leaderboard attempts.
Gamers: Ehhhh Blower cards are horrible don’t ever make those
Jay: Blower cards are good shut up.
Nvidia: why hello
Technically this one sucks and blows.
@@michelvanbriemen3459 push pull like rads really far better then a blower also has a chance of not sounding like a jet engine blowers work fine but at high temps they are seriously loud
Nvidia makes both types at once
@@PainX187 not loud if you setup a fan curve, most of the time they don't need to be at 100% since they can withstand high temps without serious issues, alot of peoples complain because the auto fans max out at lower temps for higher protection xD lil bit of brain cells and it would be an ez fix plus undervolting has been a thing for YEARS which could also help with jet engine coolers since most cards use more volts than they actually require, less volts = less heat = lower fan speeds + the fan curve setup = optimal experience, see ez pz.
@@michelvanbriemen3459 "Technically correct is the best kind of correct" - Prof. Farnsworth. 😁
Thank you for using Celsius.
It’s a brave new world lol
Everyone uses celsius when talking about computers
Amooshroom so what do we learn? Fahrenheit is useless... or imperial overall is useless
@@SkyzzV_ We all know imperial is garbage, but as far as everything else goes making the transition over to the metric system is just too complicated and costly right now and potentially dangerous (Engineering/architecture) etc.
@@MCOGroupNews That's an excuse that could go on forever. Once lazy, always lazy. The cost of switching from Imperial system to Metric system is only going to keep increasing every year. The US should have done it decades ago.
Thank you for this Jay, I learned a lot.
Glad I found this channel! Your videos are so good!
3000 series is the most successful, unsuccessful tech release of recent years!
The FE version from nvidia is great. The other versions from the AIB partners not so much :/
Falzar2142 certain partners. Some card were build above nvidias own over spec cards. But for the money the FE cards are no contest. Can’t wait to beat down people in the streets at the 3070 launch
@@jaybosher6144 yup, i can finally afford the 1070
@@Falzar2142 Some are worse, some are better. As an example the strix or TUF is better than the Founders Edition. But there are some other Cusom designs like the Zotac Trinity who are worse.
Why unsuccesful
"This is my Threadripper system that I mainly use to play World of Warships" what a sentence
Maybe it's an older one. A friend of mine bought a Threadripper PC (with a ton of RAM and 4x 2TB samsung SSDs) from his work for $1200
I helped him out....just so I could get the SSDs😅
I myself recently got a X299 itx for relatively cheap.
@@tylerdurden3722 Its a 3960x xD So yea, not that old, a couple of months or so xD
@@tylerdurden3722 current gen threadripper, he say it is 3960x
@@Thefuror38500 😗
That’s stupid overkill for world of warships since they cap your FPS at 75
amazing, FE 3080 15 degrees cooler than a custom triple fan, and also the cpu cooler, and only 67 degrees with a 65% fan speed, that is amazing, excellent temps, and the FE also helps to exhaust warm air out of the case.
3080 FE the best disipation so far
Very informative video Jay, love your work !
“Tested” two hours straight... read gamed for two hours and realized later it would be a good video.
This is pretty much how all my videos happen. 😂
Dawid Does Tech Stuff Dawid I keep seeing you in the comment section of other videos. It’s awesome to see the community love!
Blower coolers have always kept the case temps lower. and now we have an actually good blower cooler. so now you can keep you GPU cool, and your case cool
I mean, i wouldn't really call this a blower cooler. It's a hybrid
I remember the old days they made fans that used 2 PCI slots, that had a channel that went halfway into your case, and pulled the hot air out and exhausted it out the back. That was single handedly the easiest way to cool down an old computer at the time without taking a hole saw to the roof of the case to install a roof exhaust.
I had totally forgot about those. Had one in my old gateway pc.
Great review Jay, simple but powerful. One thing though, could we get a data sheet for the findings grouped together in the video to get explicit comparisons? Would be very helpful!
Would be interesting to see how a top-mounted AIO effects the heat exhaustion out of the case and at what point with that set up does internal temps rise and juncture points due to that result? Would they go up do you think? I run my system with a top mounted AIO exhausting heat out.
Also STILL waiting to see Phil vs Jay world of warships.... #TeamPhil.
I love how you and GN recommend each other and have a great professional relationship. Two of the best YT channels imo.
Yes. We can all hate Linus together (jokes)
yeah except for that weird hypocrit video after the 3080 launch
@@Kira-qc4qi Jokes aside I go to Linus for entertainment, I go to GN for technical details, and I go to Jay for wisdom and tips.
Jeff B facts
@@Kira-qc4qi Ltt does way more weird electronics projects, it's not really a comparable channel.
Jay: I can stick my finger in the fan if I wanted to. *zzzztttt!* Ah! Like that.
Oh, Jay. Never change.
He plays a clown in front of the camera. Just be sure to take his opinions with a chunk of salt as he's more of a "tech influencer" than reviewer at this point with all the fanboying he does.
@@Mr72usty Mmmmm, salty
Lol
@@fshn4x4 Mmmmm, counter salty
@@Mr72usty How is this relevant to what was said by the OP? And how is Jay any less of a reviewer compared to anyone else? And what product does he put on the highest pedestal as a fanboy? Just curious as one is to throw out such wild ass claims.
I've never been more interested in an FE card then any other. Higher GPU Boost, lower temp, lower price. Great job nvidia.
@Warm Soft Kitty did you even see the video or what?
@Warm Soft Kitty
Please watch the video before needlessly spreading misinformation
@@Motishay You should practice what you preach. This video is not testing the GPU cooling performance, it's testing the effect the cooling solutions have on the CPU temp. Jay is controlling the fan speed here by locking them at 65%. You can't say the FE is a cooler card with this video. All this video shows in that regard is that, locked at 65%, the FE card is better. Who's to say, based on this video since you say you watched it apparently, at 85% or 100% or whatever that the FE is still cooler. It could very well be that the EVGA card is cooler
And apparently no CTD issues like competitor cards (cheap capacitors).
the EVGA cooler is shit, the Asus TUF becomes 63° at the same volume while the Founders becomes 79°. (according to hardwareunboxed)
I appreciate these videos, I always watch in my downtime which is often lol interesting
Sooooo the founder edition card continues to be better in all aspects.
Except for availability, because you can only get one if you're a well-known tech blogger.
@@anonyshinki what's the point tho if the people don't get it . They better work on better way of bringing it back so alot people get the chance to buy it
@@anonyshinki lol you can't get any of them right now so that's irrelevant
tuf is the best
makes me happy i ended up selling my tuf gaming 3080 for 2 grand lol
It's actually the first time that I'm more interested in a FE card than in any other.
First it was because I find it way way sexier than any other cards we've seen so far.
But now you're telling me that in runs cooler?
I'm sold! Once there's stock...
I'll be sold next year!
Noise normalized it runs hotter than 3rd party. He just did fan % normalized which isn’t correct IMO.
@@hcAsicted Was the noise normalized test in a bench, high airflow case, or a more constricted case? That seems like the key point here. If you have a ton of overall case airflow, the AIBs seem probably better, but which is optimal if you have a more constricted case?
Shevek fair point, I think it was on an open bench. Gamers nexus probably has some comparisons.
@@hcAsicted ...does that mean that the FE would run louder at that temperature than a 3rd party?
I mean, if that's the case, I always use my computer with my headphones on, so noise is really the last of my concern ^^
@@RomainDelmaire in Jayz's test, the FE run cooler than the 3rd party with the gpu fans capped at 65%, check the numbers at 14:35 ,but i don't know what happens if the fans were made to perform 100%.. maybe the EVGA would run cooler BUT with probably a higher noise level (as it has 3 fans vs the FE which has 2 fans).. but still with 65% fan speed, the FE is doing better than a 3rd party
Jay "it's open there no filter I can stick my finger in here (gets hurt)"
Phil "I could have moved around and showed them"
Love your video so much and easy to understand obviously... Keep it up man.. !!!
"Although... people don't sit there in their game a stare at the corner"
Yeah tell that to half the campers in Warzone sitting in buildings fixated at the door.
Or if ur playing a hide and seek game
I’m OK with campers. They play a rather realistic way.
Gunnar René Øie
I just hate people that exploit spawn locations, those are horrible to deal with, I’m fine with campers though because at least there is 99% of the time an easy way to get rid of them.
Me and my brother ise to play all the battlefields and call of duty campaigns as a 1 life only. If you died you had to start back at first mission. Just cuz it was challenging and realistic.
4:15 Clearly Jay you don't play squad based games online.
Yea its just holding corners 90% of the time
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@@GummyBearRacing i love r6 so much but my gosh the amount of times I hold an angle for a minute and look away and die pisses me off so much
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Interesting result indeed. For my PC I tested FurMark with 8xAA + Prime95 to stress both CPU and GPU and I have a shorter CPU cooler with the GPU (Vega 56) having clearance above its fan. That's not a typical scenario, but Folding@Home or some titles like Dual Universe could be that taxing on the system. CPU temps were pretty extreme until I reversed the air flow. Maybe these 3000 series cards are really different. I'd be interested to see what more classical motherboards/CPU coolers and high CPU load do to those numbers. Or maybe I'm just overly skeptic. After all the CPU temps reached an all-time low with the FE card.
Haha, timing of videos, nah good on you for the disclaimer, it's also good multiple places test in multiple ways, so good stuff Jay!
Moral of the story, buy a case with good airflow, good fans, positioning of fans and good cpu cooler.
That is my gripe with NZXT, looks great but the airflow is just garbage
@@cristainnn9298 I have an nzxt s340 elite, it has ok air flow not the greatest. I switched it out to an Asus gt501 and my gpu temp dropped a few degrees Celsius. Plus the fan and radiator support in the 501 are really good. I don't think I would buy a newer nzxt, what do they have now the 500, 700 and the little 200?
My case would be perfect for a 3080. I got 3 intakes bottom, 3 side, and 3 exhaust up top
I'm so happy with my Phanteks P400a. Cheap, good airflow, not the best quality but not the worst either, it's just really good overall.
@@GPG851 dynamic?
I wouldn't mind seeing alot more 3rd party blower coolers being made.
I like the blower style, except for the sound, but that's okay. They're a lot more efficient at moving air outside the case as stated in the video, and they look neat.
ASUS has a bunch of Turbo 20-series cards (they're all blowers) and Gigabyte has a blower-style 3090 already out.
i want aio gpu cooler
@@TheKillerZmile My 3080 arrives soon its a triple fan cooler, going to be a bit sad when i put my new build together as my current card is MSI Seahawk 1080ti, It has always ran cool and quiet for me. I do love the fact it came as a 140mm AIO and wasn't super expensive considering.
@@TheKillerZmile EVGA have an upcoming Hybrid cooled 3080 and 3090, so you're in luck!
Thank you so much for this video Jay.
Great test Jay,... I wanted to do something similar but could not get hold of the cards out in Singapore.
Everyone before this video: CARD WILL BURN ALL ARGH!!!!!!
Everyone now: Pfft, I knew it would run cooler.
I really knew that before, let me explain.
In my case I have only 1 chassis fan at the bottom front of the chassis. It is the only intake. My power supply is at the top back. It is the only exhaust fan. So my airflow has to go from the bottom front to the back top anyway, so with the 3080 the fan will do huge work to increase air velocity through the case, resulting in lower temperatures.
I don't know why I commented that though.
Spoiler, i expected it anyway
Sounds like "Everyone" is a politician... lol
I actually did know before because I know basic thermodynamics.
Hindsight Harold effect
Conclusion: Skip good looking pc cases like the nzxt H510i and go for a mesh front panel case.
True nzxt case sucks in air flow
P400a is good
@@deso4262 lian li lancool 215 is also very nice
011D xl. Looks and big airflow, i have one and regret nothing
I got the Meshify C, the shorter travel from front to back dropped my temps unexpectedly! Really love it
thanks Jay, please make more thermal related videos. i would like to see which PC case is the champion of thermals.
Hey Jay, I've seen a few places online about people mounting a 80-92mm fan under the GPU pushing the hot air out of the rear of the case on a traditional style blower gpu. This apparently had very good results as it pulled the hot air directly out of the case and helps draw some of the cold air from the front of the case towards the gpu, Any chance you would be willing to run some tests with this? Also would be interesting to see the thermal results of a RTX3080 with the 3090 massive cooler on it, Thanks.
Now if we could just get these cards..
Exactly! I love my 1080ti FE but I think it's time for an upgrade. Unfortunately, who knows when we'll be able to get one...
@@briantheoret6837 ordered mine and actually happy that it got delayed due to these power issues.
@@kaylum4055 yes but aren't they happening to the AIB cards? I want the founder's edition.
@@briantheoret6837 you're correct i want the fe too but the chance of getting one is so slim
@@kaylum4055 I know... I guess all we can do is wait.
'Which is funny because that is the only air cooled CPU that I have."
-Ooh SorRy
hes rubbing it in :(
"I could stick my finger in the fan if I wanted to." - a man who always wants to stick his finger in the fans.
I dont know why im watching all this 3080 videos WHEN IM NEVER GOING TO GET CHANCE TO BUY IT
I feel your pain also waiting and I got a 8 year old pc lol i7 4770 and nvidia 778 gtx
But Jay the friction of the air particles moving past the RAM will cause it to heat up! /s
Silly jay
I almost commented that this is possible, but then I decided I would rather not deal with the smooth brains that thought I was saying it was a real issue to worry about.
@@GuyFromJupiter I mean it DOES heat it up but its so little that it isn't a problem
Don't worry. The time dialation that occurs because the air is moving means that time moves slower for the air. It's won't have as much time to heat up the RAM.
Yes but time elapses faster for the warmer air particles, therefore they are warmer for less time.
"that fan is going to make my CPU run hot!" me: looks at my side mounted intake radiator, "ha!"
yeah and your ram and other components will be thankful for the extra airflow from the GPU :)
Follower since Skunkworks build and still loving your work.
Congratulations, you have proved the point that I have been saying for years, the closer to the exhaust you can have your heat in your case the better, as it lowers the internal case temperature.
Number of fans and everything else being equal, having blowers style cards and exhaust fit Radiators are typically the best for hot climates (I live in the northern half of Australia, summer is 35C+ here, and further north is 40C+, ambient always)
Can you explain it like I'm a child?
Would like to know what the RAM temps were in both scenarios also.
i will keep saying this: your channel together with HC from Canada, has the best camera shooting Technics when it comes to record footage from a pc monitor!.THANK YOU!. very readable...sharp, great light, no reflection just perfect!!! not like other (big channels) that spend thousands on cameras, studio and employees and still they suck in those kind of videos. you rock. THANK YOU! 😎💪♥️
Nice job Jay!!! As Always!!!
Thanks for the video, It would have been cool to see some a more basic cpu cooler like the wraith style cooler O_o
Thank you. Finally someone who has the resources to test the theory I had and was trying to explain. You showed it out right and proved the theory. Great video. Keep up the great work.
No, he disproved it. :D
i was thinking it would probably help
@@ShadowViewsOnly True lol
Holy shit - the subtitles brought back a memory I forgot I had and reminded me of Don Vito in Viva La Bam 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
LOL nowayyy;, bruh that was my show...
The hot GPU exhausted air into the CPU does increase CPU temps. The main difference why it isn't in this video is because of the rear fan that exhausts out of the case as Jay said. I have a custom mounted GPU with a CPU tower air cooler on it that is placed where all the blokes with custom water loops would sit their reservoir and it exhausts straight into the CPU tower air cooler. Even tho the temps of the GPU dropped drastically, the CPU temps went up a little bit over the standard PCI-E slot GPU placement.
So actually as expected, but the missing part now: noise comparism!
I think what is missing is a comparison against a blower style card (since there is no 3080 blower you have to under volt a 3080 to get the same tdp as an older blower style card for a fair comparison). The people who were complaining that the top fan was going to make thermals worse were comparing it to a blower style not an axial style, since blower style is more optimal for multi gpu or itx.
As far as I know, the only closed front panel case with great thermal performance is the O11 dynamic. I'm thankful for the GN influence on the market, as traditional closed front panel cases sacrifice way too much performance for looks. It's amazing how much your CPU temp dropped after removing the front panel. #meshmasterrace
6:05 min Jay's finger takes one for the team 👍. Thats the kind of commitment I like to see xD.
I feel your pain with that PCIe slot and the DR4 cooler. Dang switch thing retention-dealy is a bear to undo to get your GPU out.
Thank you Jay!
I work in a refinery and we literally use steam to cool hot spots on parts of piping lmao. If something is less hot than what it's cooling it will cool boys!
I was hoping to heat my water cooler to steam and cause a boil over. Would've been spectacular to watch.
Heat transfers from hot to cold, junior high school knowledge.
@@jeffcrawford2195 I've seen videos of water heaters exploding through the roof of a house. You don't want those problems man.
@@rotor13 oh I know! 1600 times the energy all of a sudden and it's gonna be a bad day in bedrock
Be careful, that's what killed the USS Thresher.
jayztwocents: the heat is gonna create . . . heat
me: surprised pickachu face
That one drew a legit laugh out of me! XD
Jay's borderline ranting tone keeps me interested and energized, I like it
I would love to see this same test done with the 3090 fe just for comparison.
it runs cooler
I don't think they'll make AIB 3090s
BackInBlack_4896 there are already aftermarket 3090s tho, MSI has the one with the stringest cooling of the 3rd party cards
@@TheFrisken95 stringest?
@@davidc1961utube i think he meant strongest* lol
Every vid I watch about the 3080 reminds me I don't have one yet...
(Still love the vids Jay!)
I can't afford one...lol
I wouldn't worry about it too much. We're all going to have a much better selection in a few months and the bugs will have been worked out.
It's ok we make enough money once all this hype dies down and the scalpers loose money from buying too many we can get into it at a more comfy time
yeah same, ordered 50 mins after launch, still waiting to get it shipped to me
Wake me up
When RTX 3080 will get his restock
They will sell at about as fast as I can smack my snooze button in the morning.
I think this scarcity will benefit Big Navi 2 release
"Wake me up, when 3080 gets restocked"
*sad acoustic guitar plays*
If you dont go FE you can still find some in stock. (uk)
Can't wake up?
I think the downward fan actually is the main cooling fan of the gpu cooling system. Because the gpu was just underneath of the downward fan, the hottest air blow out of the case directly.
The upward fan on the other hand is just a bonus for the gpu cooling dure to that part is the end of the heatsink. So you can imagine that the air which blow out of the upward fan is not so hot.
The no space struggles between PCIe Releases and big tower coolers, I feel em. Bought a noctua NH-D15 and I have to use a butter knife to release the GPU from the PCIe slot when I've gotta do maintenance too.
It's almost like the laws of thermodynamics are real... Who would have thought!
thing that effect.. A/C, how well is the system get rip of heat... an the damn case... all i see is that thing run fine without dust build up... all that thing had issue more whenit got older...
The "Laws" of thermodynamics are guidelines (say it like a Pirate). Almost everything we label as "Laws" are guidelines that let us get through the hard parts.
U like willies
You mean like the laws of thermodynamics he incorrectly described?
Air that is hotter than something is not going to cool it down. That's not how anything works.
If my ram runs at 45c, and this is spewing out 65c air, it is not going to cool the ram.
That's just fucking ridiculous.
@@herpderpherpd that isnot what he said though he said that air at a certain temp blowing over the components are not going to heat up said component above the temp of said air.
Jay: "The heat is going to generate heat" (2:56)
Me whos heat generates a $500 electric bill: ?????????
Wow bro my heat is less than 100
Conservation of energy state that to generate any form of energy (ie heat), another form of energy (ie electricity) must be used to generate that heat. So it seems that your house's central heating relies on resistive heating, where electricity is turned into heat, thus causing your $500 electrical bill. Ultimately, all of the energy we use from electricity gets turned into heat, whether sooner or later.
@Joshua Steele F in the chat for you mate
Damn thats hot. My heat generates $80-$90 max.
When you're running at the lower temp, you'll see less of a drop when you take the front off because you have less excess temp to exhaust.
As a slight aside, my case has an almost identical layout. I have the fan on the rear of the case directly behind the CPU air cooler as well, what i noticed was that when I fitted another fan on the rear, directly above the first (where Jay just has the 'mesh' above his fan) the air coming out of that upper fan was considerably hotter.
I have my top fan (nearest the front) pulling air into the case, and the top rear fan as an exhaust.
That top rear exhaust fan has the second highest air temps.
2070 Super and i7-9700K@5.1GHz
So we finally have a blower style cooler that doesn’t sound like a rocket
It's not about Blower or not. It's about axial and radial Fans. Building a Blowerstyle with a axial Fan was a smart move from Nvidia.
@@iStrong113 You are probably deaf.
noctua nhd15
@@iStrong113 my rx570 blower isn’t loud with headphones on
@@iStrong113 sounds a bit hot. Maybe increase that fan speed. I'm not annoyed by stock cooling either
I never questioned the new cooler style. Just looking at it you can tell it is better then 3rd party coolers that blow air all through the case.
Jay, you da best dude!!!! You made a kind of boring type of video fun to watch.
you should get a ambient temp sensor and put it in the case and retest each card to find ambient temp in the temp underload to test that theory of the FE cooling the case by pulling out more heat!
Just blow some smoke in the case through the inlet in the front.Than you can see the exact flow.
Air flow doesn't bump ,it goes straight from high pressure to low pressure.
Lets be clear... it's the youtubers that put the idea out that the FE cooler might make the CPU and RAM hotter during their unboxing videos.
larock0wns proof it boy
@@Buildonsound go watch the unboxing videos... There's your proof. Stop being lazy
Build On Sound gamers nexus was one of the first people to say that when the design was leaked
That bomb that jay dropped at the end.. HHHMMMM got me thinking......
Great! Simple and effective test. What where the temps if you let all the fans spin free in auto?
6:03
_"I could stick my finger in the fan if I wanted to...."_
[low-key] _"Aghh..."_
-Jay
I own this card finally and for one week it's been the best purchase I've made in 8 years.
@Devil's Advocate ???
@@excaliburmorgan5501 it's called PC Envy😅
Nvidia (Envidia) is Latin for the word Envy. The fact that the logo is green is also not coincidence.
Jay, I've been binging your videos over the past weeks since the 3000 buzz started. You talk a lot about not bottlenecking yourself at your monitor. Any chance you put out a video talking about some of the monitors you recommend (for those lucky enough to have gotten a 3080/90), specifically those with HDR and high refresh rates?
makes a lot of sense and yes air flow even warm air will cool down better than no air flow at all
Jay, what’s your favorite ship to play in WoWS? Mine is North Carolina.
Pensacola
Heretic, Balansgrad is the best. I like Hindenburg though.
Daring
i love me some tirpitz and moskva !
Huanghe and Nagato.
I felt attacked when he flicked my precious °C
bruh same
Keep your funny measurement numbers to yourselves!
@@Texas240 metrics system is silly? Are you high?
Stupid imperial system
@@theneosuperzero - do we need to come force feed you some Freedom?!?
This video could be improved in various ways. The most obvious is charts(even the most basic ones are better than no charts), since you're measuring something. Providing the numbers side by side gives a useful perspective. Then there are timestamps which you can either use in the video or in the description. It really helps if one wants to jump forward or backward in the video. It may also help if you put the name of the card you're currently testing on the screen while it's being tested.
This generations AIB's are mostly flow through at the far end anyway, that's what the backplates have holes In them.
I do think that you're on to something with the large FE exhaust lowering case temps though
"Phil touch this." No way man.
I’ve never been interested in buying a FE card before, how is availability on those in the long run? Will I be able to get it at close to MSRP once NVIDIA sorts out their crap?
LOL good luck until about valentines day 2021.....
@crimescene25 You say that like it’s a long time from now
@@jojivlogs_4255 It is a long time from now considering the release date for these cards was sept 17th. Dont be a dumb little kid.
@@jojivlogs_4255 don't mess with crimescene, have you seen his arms 😱
@@muckymucks unless you make your own scalper bots
Makes me realize how much of a difference I can make just gettingbthe modmymods vented panels for my enthoo evolv matx case. And a bigger 360 rad at the front.
I've always used Founder Editions from the 1080 days on as the back end venting seemed like a no-brainer to me. My rigs are always fine on temps, the room, not always so much! lol. My current top end is the 3080ti in a Corsair Vengeance with the i9 and it runs very coolly and quietly even under load. As already stated, Nvidia does know what it's doing.