M&P 2.0 Compact, 4.25" and 5' Optics ready pistols.
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2021
- M&P pistols of the past have had their issues and rightfully so. However when Smith and Wesson released the 2.0 series of pistols. They focused not only on bringing a better trigger, but a complete new look to the M&P series of pistols. If you are trashing the M&P 2.0 if probably because you have not shot one!
Thanks for the review. I bought a 5" Pro CORE and four days afterward won a national shooting match with it, so they must be doing something right at S&W!
I have watched this video so many times. Absolutely love M&P’s and would like to see you make another video on them. M&P’s do not get the respect they 100% deserve. I fell for the Glock mentality early on but luckily was able to purchase others (M&P, CZ, Sig, FN) and avoid to myopic view point of Glocks. Please make more videos on why M&P’s need to be considered way before Glock.
I completely agree. I have a glock 19 and as soon as I picked up the M&P 2.0 Compact I fell in love with it.
I own 2 glocks but I’ve always loved the M&P and I’m definitely going to pick up a 4.25 optics ready version. Probably will never touch my glocks again.
I'm switching from my Canik TP9 Elite Combat for EDC simply because it's too big, almost swapped to a Hellcat RDP, then I found the M&P m2.0 Compact, loved the features, apex trigger options, manual safety, 17 round capacity, great recoil impulse everybody raves about... I'm sold
Got the le only model 4.25 came with three 17 round mags suppressor height night sights front and back performance trigger also has 4 custom interchangeable back strpaps. This gun has blew me away. I have been carrying the sig p320 basic model and its a solid weapon still love it but its been sitting at home for the past few months since changing it up. MP smith and Wesson is a great gun!
Bought the S&W 2.0 9MM with the 3.6" barrel in December 2019. I have attended three shooting schools (yeah, during the pandemic) and never a glitch from the gun. My wife owns a 1.0 4" and never a problem with it either....excellent handguns.
Would you recommend the 3.6 inch or 4.24 barrel pistol for edc
@@robertsalyers1351
Personally, I can carry the 3.6" or my recently acquired 5"...I have a 4" which I can carry very easily. I have carried a 4.25" Commander 1911...no difficulty.
The longer the barrel, the higher the velocity of the bullet. Remember though, most self defense situation will be up close and personal (think store parking lot robbery) so velocity really isn't a major factor.
I shot a rental M&P 2.0 yesterday along with several other pistols and WoW I was very impressed with the M&P 2.0 9mm
Thank you so much for the video. Love the presentation and flow of information.
Thank you for the support and watching the videos.
Hands down out of the box the M&P2.0 is far superior to the Glock.
Yes it is I love mines
Huge fan of S&W and the M&P series. I use the M&P9 M2.0 compact 3.6”, M&P9 M2.0 5” full-size and 442 j frame for backup/pocket carry
I have the 4.5 inch performance center with ported barrel and slide, absolutely love it!
I don't have a lot of pistols but I do have a G19x and a m&p 2.0. i prefer the m&p hands down.
C&H plate FTW! Currently have the M&P 2.0 Compact Optics Ready with a 509T…probably the best daily carry pistol on the market 😎
I have 15 of them everything from the 380bg all the way up to the 45 not to mention my revolver collection they are outstanding
I bought the M&P 2.0 9C and the Glock 19 Gen5 when they were first released years ago. They both feel good in the hand, have nice triggers and they shoot accurately. They're both semi-retired now because I've moved on to optic ready pistols with a Holosun 507 or 407 mounted on them. Sig P320 XCompact, P365XL, CZ P10S and P10F.
You should consolidate everything to M&P so that muscle memory is the same if you ever had to use one in self defense :)
If you could only have one out of your Gen 5 Glock 19, M&P 2.0 Compact, Sig P320 XCompact, and your CZ P10 series (probably the P10C even though you don't have that), which one would you pick?
I don’t know why it has taken so long but finally some people are seeing the light. Also, if you haven’t had a chance to mess around and swap slides/frames, I highly recommend the compact (15 round) frame with a full-size 4.25 slide. That set up is my go to pistol set up for all around use. Duty & conceal carry. Add a Floyd’s magwell and +2 base pd and you have an 18 round compact pistol that can’t be beat.
Me and the m&p’s have been down for a min. The 2.0’s really are a superior pistol to other striker fired guns.
I completely agree, I like being able to swap between my 2.0 compact, 4.25, and 5 inch. my personal favorites are the compact slide on the full size frame, and, as odd as it is the 5 inch on the compact frame. I wish Smith would have though ahead a little more and made the subcompact interchangeable with the other models. The idea of having the 3.6 slide on the compact frame with an integrated comp that sits basically flush with the frame is something I am a big fan of.
do you know if the 3.6" frame is the same as the 4" frame? also where to purchase 4.25 slide?
@@LoveLikeaHurricane the 3.6 is it’s own animal. Down wide to m&p. They don’t sell slides to my knowledge only the complete pistol. You need to own the full guns to swap the slides
I can swap slides and frames between the P-10 series as well, not Glocks. We tried it at my local gun shop with my 10F &10C and someone else’s 10S. Good to know that S&W can do that too.
I love my 5” Tan S&W. I bought it at the same time as my CZ P-10F so I traded it for a P-10C. Then I regretted it after I shot my M&P 1.0 9L. I bought it back from a friend who frequents the same gun shop. I’m thinking of sending it out to get cut for a red dot. Already have an Apex short reset trigger installed before I even shot it with the stock trigger.
Damn Jeff I actually dig this video opening was good
You know who does the all the magic. Lol. It’s coming along that’s for sure
If they replace their hinge trigger with the one they have on the shield plus, I believe they will win a huge market of the Glock community. Btw I like the Glock too.
I don’t notice the hinge during live fire
I actually love their hinge trigger. It just sticks to my finger and doesn't move around when I shoot. I shoot with the tip of my finger and every time I shoot guns like the Glock or The shield plus, as I start to shoot I noticed that my finger starts to move deep into the trigger guard the trigger is now in the middle part of my finger and sometimes almost to the first knuckle of my finger
I own 3 Walther (Q5 Match, PDP 5” full size and a small PPS M2) but all are either too large or too small for carry.
I’m gonna get the MP 2.0 with optic option as my “do all” all pistol.
I also have a Sig P320 in 40 cal that Ive never used and will never sale due to its modularity.
I had a Glock 19 Gen 4 I just didn’t like but kept it for 8 years as my only do all until earlier this year
Hi, orginal site S&W doesnt show 4,25". I want to buy 4" (15 mag) and my dealer at Norway sells only 4,25" with 17 mag i dont get it. I prefer smaller cause the difference is big compering to just 2 more bullets. I want compact. Is it correct, 4" would be better in pocket then 4,25" ?
I know this video is old. But my new firearm is new. Yesterday I bought myself a smith m&p 40 performance with cut out slide and barrel with optic ready. Now I need to go to the range and feel how it shoots. Oh, yea. It is the 4.25 inch barrel.
Have you been running the C&H plates since this video?
Hey man, what plates did you purchase? Id like to get them for my 2.0 that's OR as well.
c&h precision
Have a M&P 2.0 3.6 love it. Looking to get a second one. Should I go with the 4.25 or 5 inch.
I think that depends on use. You already have a EDC model. I like 5” for range and match use. But the 4.25 is no slouch on either task
What size 5 inch groups are you getting at 25 yards?
Very good is the best pistol Gun
Glocks are the Honda Civics of guns
I always trash s&w for their triggers but... I could do that because I own 6 of their pistols, 3 revolvers, a 22lr rifle and 2 5.56 rifles lol.
I just tend to swap out triggers for apex everything on the pistols.
I edc either my m&p 45c or shield 45 more than anything else in my collection.
Agree... The 45 is the least used, but probably the best of the bunch!
Thank you soo much for this video looking both these sizes but in 40 sw trying to decide 4.25 or 5 in 40 sw what think about the PC ported slide and batrle in advice
What drives you to 40? It’s not every day you hear about someone who is openly wanting to buy a pistol chambered in 40.
Do the Surefire 300u fits the compact?
At the end of the day.....Glocks are known as the budget "starting point" gun" (that most buyers are likey to almost immediately swap in new sights and trigger.....unless assigned for duty) and how the gun fits in our own hand (we're all built differently...hands...why we need to at least handle before we buy...if we can't also shot it first )....Most polymer guns are similar in performance...different grip shape/siszes...
Is nice S&W includes optics plates with gun even if they are plastic...G&k makes you send for the plate you want...even though they charage what htey do SMRP for their guns...selling based mostly on their marketing "....ex SOCOM pistol the MK23----and "most tested"...ooooOOOOAHHH!!! And that matters HOW to a civilian--most of the buyers ..)....
ARDS---THE range tacti-cool toy currently :) No one actually needs them IMHO.....
If no one really needs an Rds option why does every SOF Mil unit use them, almost every agency in the country and dam near every manufacture now has an Rds option. I get it, that it may not be for you. But I suggest you try one. It might change your mind. It's not a "range toy". it's now the standard for professionals as well as educated and trained armed civilians.
What Light are you running on the full size 4.25” is that PL Pro? Or surefire? Can’t tell?
Lol. I don’t own anything. O-light. Never have never will.
@@rdrgear okay so what light is it my guy?
Surefire x300
What would Glock would you compare the 4.25 M&P to size wise? Asking because I'm looking at one and I currently have a G17 and G19.
Grip length same as a 17. Slide slightly shorter then a 17. Not quite a 19. What you get with the M&P 2.0 is better grip angle for RDS, better ergonomics. And a fabulous trigger.
@@rdrgear Thanks I appreciate your feedback it helps me understand the difference better. But I've shot one before and the grip is just more natural.
Have you had a lot of failures with the factory plates?
zero issues with zero or any other issues. you?
any dude that calls a glock shitty has me attention lol
I have a non optics cut m&p 2.0 C. Should I sell it and buy an OR or have the slide cut on the one I have?
Get it cut. Hit up jager works. Direct mounting is always the best when you can do it
Any OWB holster suggestions for the 4.25" optics ready?
What kind of owb kydex or duty
I've always avoided the MP series due to the trigger and accuracy issues they had in the past. One of my LEO family friend swears by the 2.0 version. I'd be down to run one but I'm so invested in Glock that adding another system thats not substantially better (insert quality duty 2011 here) doesn't make financial sense.
Never heard of accuracy issues with m&p? But if your accessories are based on the Glock platform and you're content with Glock, then m&p isn't a reason to switch.
My next gun is going to be the M&P compact m2.0
As law enforcement which is better for the everday job 5" or 4.25 ?
I would say 4.25. Would fit the cross over for off duty and plainclothes as well.
We have the 4.25 in our inventory (around 3,000) for LE use. SWAT had the long slide 1.0s, looked similar to a Springfield, for me long slide is always better, but that's just me!
P320 or M&P 2.0?
Yeah I have a friend that is totally a Glock fan boy that won’t even look at another gun! His loss.
there are many out there, thanks for watching.
deciding between 4.25 ported or the 5 inch ported.....or wait for the MP 3.0.
I have the 3.6" compact 2.0
Hey bro...have you heard anything about the 3.0 ?
@@kippnovak9833 nope, but we all know it will come due to competition and advancement
@@LoveLikeaHurricane thanx for the reply...I think I'll wait for the non hinged trigger on the 3.0...until then I'll keep my ruger sr1911 45 commander...its a beast...just hate it's only 7+1
Yea I haven't heard anything about a 3.0 but it has to be coming soon right? Shield plus and now 10mm both with non-hinged trigger.
I want that 4.25 but trying to wait for a non-hinged trigger as well. May just get it and apex it. Currently have a 2.0 compact and shield.
@@RTree613 nice
I have owned both. In the grand scheme of things, it took S&W M&P some time to catch up and some think too little too late. If folks have started with the Glock they are not going to change over. If they started with the M&P, then the advantages with the grip angle will be appreciated. However, when it came to getting holsters like the Safariland 6000 series - forget it! It was Glock all the way with the combo - Trijicon RMR and Surefire 3000U-A and that was the only choice for a LONG time!
That's why Glock owners get pissed at "questionable" posts like this! And RDR has made a good living wrapping and selling Safariland Holsters - for the combo above! In other words there is absolutely no incentive for Glock owners to make the shift to M&P! Especially with veterans like me who can get blue label program prices! And CZ has an outstanding line of pistols (CZ P-10C Optic Ready)! So there!
Not sure where you gave been shopping, to not have access to RDS holsters for m&p but they have been around as long as the RDS options have been available. After reading your post it kinda sounds like you are just cheap and want to get a deal, So there!
P10C bro for real, i have a brand new one in the safe that can’t get past 5 rounds without having a dead trigger.....
* have
I got the 6390 RDS for my MP Compact 2.0 3.6”. Ordered it on Black Friday in 2020. Luckily for me I’m not invested into any Glocks, this MP is my first pistol. I can grow my MP line. Magazines for MP are more expensive though.
I started with the Glock. And the moment I grabbed an M&p and shot it and felt how flat and soft it shoots, I pretty much sold my Glock 45
6384 has been around as long as I can remember,when you order there made to order depending on lights and optic each individual or Dept is running..
I have 6 M&P's and 2 Glocks. I'm about to sell my glocks for a Optics ready M&P Compact for carry
That’s all my family runs are m&ps
That’s a pretty tight family.
What’s the name of the red dot?
You mean the brand? Or the model. This the holosun, I want to say it’s the 407. I honestly have to look. I can’t remember I use the 407, the 507 and the 509
Steiner and Aimpoint ARCO is the only 2 that fits on our department 9mm 2.0s.
How does it make the glock shitty lol .
They are both very good, but I prefer M&P 2.0 as well these days.
Serious question - who says the M&P is a shitty pistol?
So S&W doesn't allow you to search by feature on their website and I have been unable to find a 4.25 in 17+1 optics ready model anywhere on their site. Does anyone have a model name and SKU for this? I wish you could just search by feature so one could get a list of all optics ready models they offer, but as near as I can tell, you can't. They have their stupid model builder but you can't skip directly to optics ready and as soon as I hit 4.25 in and 17+1, the suppressor height sights and optics ready options both disappear.
11826 for 4.25 in
M&P
GLOCK
WALTHER
HK VP9
How are you substantiating that the M&P is superior, let alone significantly superior to current Gen 5 Glocks?
Grip angle, trigger stipple and price amongst other features. Both guns are great however, the m&p is easier to shoot and a far better value for the consumer. With the new 2.0 triggers. It’s hands down a better shooting pistol.
Anybody wanna trade their 5” slide/barrel for a 4.25”? HMU!
As an Armorer for a large PD, with M&P 9mm 2.0 isn't the best pistol on the market and the 1.0 really is a dog! The 2.0 9mm does have a better trigger than the 1st Gen 2.0, but in no way is the best striker fired weapon, the trigger bar sucks, the slide lock release/stop plunger malfunctions and cause the slide to lock back and fail to feed. The optics mount sucks and cheap. I have function checked thousands of them and they are mediocre, maybe equal to a G22. No way better than an XD, HK, Sig or Walther... Albeit cheaper. Also magazines suck, the follower is all plastic, including the spring catch!
Eveyone has an opinion. And yes the
M&P 2.0 is one thousand times better then an XD.
@@rdrgear yes, everyone does have an opinion!
However, I'm a Level III Smith and Wesson Armorer, I work with them every day, I've function checked over 3,000 of them, repaired many of them and understand their inner workings. Usually, when someone has specific training and experience in a field or method, that's called a professional fact. An opinion is from someone who doesn't meet the above category.
While I never said the M&P is the worst weapon around, It's merely middle of the pack, just as a Glock is. But I can assure you it doesn't match or beat FN, HK or Sig Sauer.... Otherwise the military would have been using it vice the Sig, HK or even Beretta! Now, when it comes to revolvers, Smith and Wesson is one of the best. So again, I say what I say from experience, whomever listens or not, that's up to the individual.
@@victorglavianoglad I came across your comments. I've had my 4.25 m&p 2.0 9mm for 2years now. I replaced the factory RSA around 8.6k rds because it started to lock back on me during some of my USPSA matches. I chalked it up to a weak RSA. Got a new factory RSA from S&W and still got the same thing intermittently. I was also experimenting with my grip around that time and assumed that the higher up grip of my support hand was causing me to ride the extended slide stop at times. But I'm 2years and 16K + rounds on this weapon and constantly dryfire. I'm pretty consistent with my grip and recoil control. Capable of running bill drills back to back without a hiccup and then, out of nowhere the slide will lock back during a string of fire. Would it be be best to just change out that plunger for a new factory one or is there an upgrade for it. I'd greatly appreciate your feedback considering your level of expertise and experience with this platform. Thanks in advance for any info you offer.
@@carlosdaniels9515 and that's not to say it's the worst either, it's on par with a Glock or similar. It's not a bad weapon, I don't believe it's as good as an FN.
Then again, no PD is going to buy 3,000 FNs for its Officers! I own a M&P 45 and It's fine!
@@victorglavianoLAPD just did 😂