S&W M&P9 vs Glock 17
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M&P all day. Garand thumbs test proved it is rugged. Better ergos than a Glock. American made by an American company
That freezing test sealed the deal for me. Glad I already had the m&p
I’m American, but my ancestors immigrated from Austria so I always buy Glock and I like them a lot. When it comes to revolvers, I only buy Colts. Glock 36 and a Colt 1873 is better than a Smith&Wesson any day and when times get tough the Glock 17 tried and true war horse is always ready ( standard issued side arm for the Ukrainian Army is the G17 as of 2024).
I’m proud my Glock’s are made in Austria, I specifically only buy the Austria made ones. I will examine them in the gun shop, before I buy and if it’s not stamped “ Austria “ it doesn’t come home with me.
@@satan4133very cool. I’m American so I like to support American companies. And I’d take an S&W over a colt revolver any day
The m&p is a great reliable option. The newer m&p's also have the newer "flat" trigger which is more easy to work
M&P 2.0 + Apex trigger = Winner
i recently retired as an LEO from the 2nd largest US city. My dept authorized its officers to carry Glock's in the early 2000's. One thing that people should understand is that the rank and file of most police depts (street cops) do not get to decide which firearm they can carry, its a bean counter in an office at City Hall. The reason that my city and Chief approved the Glock and began to issue them to its new recruits was $$. The City was saving $350.00 per pistol package by issuing Glock's, instead of the Beretta 92fs pistols.
My dept subsequently approved the S&W M&P's, 1911,s, and FN pistols. A lot of the officers that were issued Glock's in the police academy, got rid f their Glock's and switched to other approved pistols. Just before I retired, my dept stopped issuing Glock's to their new recruits and began to issue the S&W M&P's.
Interesting...I retired from the fourth largest city in the country. That department has never issued firearms. I started in revolvers (1977) and during my career carried 357...41 mag...40 caliber, and 45 ACP.
Department went through a period of time when all new officers and veteran officers who wished to carry a new handgun had to purchase from a specified list of brands in 40 caliber. In the years since I retired, the department has returned to all the popular handgun calibers...9MM...40 caliber...and 45 ACP again from a specified list.
I didn't own a Glock until 9 years after I retired...Glock 22 and a Glock 30.
@@Lee-rq1ek I went thru the academy in 1985 and was issued a Smith and Wesson model 67 38 spcl in stainless steel. Thats weird that a dept from the 4th largest city does not issue its new officers service pistols when they are hired.
So if a person is hired from the dept you retired from the new officer has to buy his own uniform duty weapon?
In 1989 my dept approved the Beretta 92fs for duty use. However it only issued the 92's to its newly hired officers that were going thru the academy. If you wanted to transition to the 92 fs as a veteran officer, you had to buy yourn own Beretta 92fs and the dept would put you thru the training, which is what I did. And the dept had a list of firearm vendors from where you could buy the 92fs. My police dept has a gun/inform/police supply store at the police academy, so thats where I bought it. I carried that 92fs for the next 28 years until I retired after 32 years.
My dept eventually approved other pistols and calibers, but I stuck to my Beretta for uniform duty.
@@doobiedoo7623
Yes...purchasing their own firearms has always been the policy.
The reason the city does this is to save money from the city budget. The best reason is the officers are allowed to choose their handguns (from a specified brand list) in 9MM...40 cal...and .45ACP. I think most officers will take care of their weapons better as well as one size does not fit all.
I remember when your department went to the Beretta.
I never cuddled up to Beretta 92...I always thought the pistol was over built for a 9MM. As a retired officer under the LEOSA I carry the S&W 2.0 3.6" 9MM...an S&W 2.0 9MM with the 5" barrel...a Glock 30...and infrequently a Glock 22.
Have a great, safe retirement.
I retired from the 246th largest city. Our department always issued its NEW recruits their handguns: S&W model 64, then model 5906, followed by model 4006. However, officers were always ALLOWED to purchase their own guns, as long as it was the same make and model as the issue gun. So, not being a recruit, when I wanted to upgrade from the revolver to the semiauto, I had to buy my own 5906. It was when the department went to the 4006 that we were all issued the same gun. (I bought my own 4006 anyway, because I wanted adjustable sights.) The department then started issuing Glock 17's to all recruits, until one rookie accidentally shot a suspect. The department blamed it on the Glock's "light trigger," and as a stopgap installed a heavier trigger on all the issued Glocks. They eventually dumped the Glocks in favor of the M&P 1.0 (.40 S&W). The downside was that they made all the rest of us turn in our issued 4006's, which to this day I consider the better gun. (I was glad I had purchased my own 4006; it was heartbreaking to turn in that issued 4006, which had barely been fired.) It's been a while since I retired, so I imagine they've switched from the M&P.1.0 to something else. But you can see where all those "law enforcement buy-backs" come from.
@@georgegravette1132 I was issued a S&W Model 67 when I went through the academy. About 4 years after I graduated, they approved the Beretta 92fs and I bought one. If you were an veteran officer and wanted to upgrade, you had to buy your own and the dept put you through the training. About a year after approving the Beretta, they approved the S&W 4000, 5000 and 6000. I bought a S&W Model 6906 for off duty carry. I absolutely love the 6909. I wish I had bought the full size version of the pistol.
Our dept had a lot of cops that had negligent discharges with their Glocks. I am not a big fan of striker fired pistols for on duty. I prefer the double action of a semi auto pistol better, because it gives you a little more time to analyze before you pull the trigger. I have never bought a used pistol because I do not feel comfortable doing so, unless I were to buy one from a friend who I trust.
M&P all the way
Same here. Still love my high power but not for edc
M&P ALL DAY 🧐
What about at night?
@TsandLman 🤣🤣🤣 all nite too but my arm gets tired by then
Yeah, it’s a laughable comparison to expect an museum piece to compete with a modern firearm.
Based
S&W owner, but the Glock seems solid too!
I was issued the M&P 40. Found that for me my grip was closer to the slide reducing muzzle rise over the Sig 226 that I love and carried for almost 20 years. The S&W M&P was super accurate.
I love the recoil impulse on my m&p. One handed is very controllable. I just need more practice to tighten my groups
The flat faced triggers on the newer M&Ps are great, way better than the hinged triggers
Yah, the hinged triggers are not that great, lol.
When did those come out and are they availabile in CA
@@elsamuraiguapoThere is a California Compliant S&W M&P 2.0 with ten round mags.
Great channel thanks guys
Love how real u were with no edits 💪🏽👍🏽💪🏽👍🏽💪🏽
LMAO when you said that you " Sucked Equally " 😂😂😂😂😂😂absolutely great !!
I own an m&p. I duty carry a glock 19. It's up to preference at this point. I like the mag release on m&p better. Other than that it's pretty much even.
The 2.0 grip texture is also way nicer than any gen glock.
@benjaminskousen303 that's why I sold my gen 4 glock 17 and got a performance center m&p9L. A lot better grip and the ported barrel for the win
M&P 2.0 9mm
Bought when it came out. Zero issues.
Great video, and both platforms are definitely amazing choices no matter what you go with. It was also really hard to not be jealous of Kays's physique lol
Chose the M&p 2.0 bc of the grip angle
Same here. I love the angle and the texture
And the grip texture
Yeah that's what made me choose it over the G19. The S&W felt much better and Made in America was a big plus. I now want a 3.6 2.0 with the flat trigger.
I know you're former law enforcement so I'm not going to be "teaching" you anything, but one little trick I started doing when shooting one-handed, is to not try to hold the gun upright. I hold the gun at the natural angle my arm goes out, which ends up holding the gun at like a 45-degree angle with the sights angled in a bit. It feels more natural and I find that I control my shots better that way than trying to force the gun straight upright.
Dude your videos are very interesting and informative.
Both great options. Love 9mm and 10mm m&p and like my glock 22.
The Glock 17 gen5 mos is my favorite. In my opinion. The 43x standard no mos is a favorite also. Great video.
Smith all day
2 guns holding 2 guns
Good info. Thanks
I'd take the S&W M&P 9 M2.0 4.25" over the Glock 17 (Gen3, Gen4, Gen5) all day long, and twice on the weekend.
Good things! 👍
I’ve owned both. I like the looks and ergos of the M&P better, but the hinged trigger sucks.
The new ones are flat faced...no more hinge (mostly)
The hinged trigger is fine.
Hinged trigger made it work in Garand Thumb's frozen ice test. Sig p320/m18 and the m&p 2.0 are the only ones that worked
I like both. I started shooting an S&W revolver double action, so the curved, hinged trigger on the M&P is not an issue, it is a matter of getting used to it. I can understand some people with long fingers having issues. It is mainly a matter of personal preference.
Yep and that’s why I have the newer one with the flat face trigger
I was just at LV gun range. Casual plinker. Got to shoot both, regular Glock 17, and the S&W MP9 competitor. Holy smokes the competitor model with red dot was like EZ mode, I placed the target at the end of the range and in the corner of the paper had a mini target I managed to hit the head of the mini target. Recoil wise the Glock was more around, the S&W had more vertical recoil but easier to resight after each shot
ive been wanting an M&P but will probably go with the competition version
I'm so glad the M&P9 M2.0 is now CA compliant. I want to try them since they seem to be much more comfortable versions of the Gen 3 Glocks (which are the only Glocks legal in CA for civilians to purchase).
You should move.
@@sertank735 Until I know there's a much better environment in the USA for the LGBTQIA, I won't be able to move.
“Although the m&p has ambi slider “stop” for lefties it is very stiff. I have 3 2.0’s one a CORE, one a performance center and one compact. The performance center has the hinge trigger and it is great. The other 2 have the newer flat face trigger and I polished them both to smooth them a little bit. It just helped with break in period. The Core has about 5000 rounds through it now and it is super smooth. Everyone who shoots that fun wants to but it from me. I did a little polishing on the slide stop to make it a little easier. The m&p’s are fantastic guns. I have never had any failure with any of mine and have done at least 10000 rounds in my 2.0’s
There is nothing stiff about the slide stop. It operates just fine when used to lock the slide back. It’s not intended to release the slide. That’s what the off hand is for. Try it! It works much better when a gun is manipulated as designed and intended.
ive had 4 m&ps love them all. shield, shield plus, m&p 2.0, and the equalizer
How do you like the equalizer?
I dropped the shield plus like a hot potatoe
My Dept Used the SW 5946 modified with a Magazine safety Disconnect. Since we were a Correction Dept most Officers never used guns except Off duty, For 13 years I worked in a Specialized division for Transporting Inmates and I used my Smaller 6946 on duty and Off.I heard the Division just started the Transition to the Glock 19 because they don't sell the SW 5946 anymore. I'm retired and I still shoot my SW once a year to Qualify for Armed Guard license but I Carry a Ruger Lcp.
Both guns are excellent weapons! Personally I believe it’s a matter of which one fits you best!
Kaya what belt and mag holders are those?
I picked up that M&P a month ago and mine came with a threaded barrel already in it. I love it!
If you check out the specs Smith &wesson M & P 2.0. Has a widen feed Ramp and there is a steel bar insert just in front of the trigger
Great video! You guys show do a top 5 vs 5 duty belt gun?
Both are great but ultimately M&p is better. Better feature sets (especially the newest ones) for less money with the same reliability.
What are your thoughts on replacing the trigger on the M&P with a Timney trigger?
Man the gun shot sounds is giving me the Heat shootout scene vibes
Love my glock 17. Enjoyed my buddies M&P 2.0, but still prefer the LEM P30.
Video was helpful, fun and funny!🤣
Im currently in law enforcement and we are issued the Glock 45, and I honestly love it. But my off duty is the m&p 2.0 and she is my baby lol. I looked at a g19 when I was looking for an off duty pistol but I feel like the m&p has so much more character than the glock. From the slide serrations, to the engravings, the grip texture, the flat face trigger, optics ready and suppressor hight sights. I feel like you get more with the m&p for a lesser price.
Your comment is pretty much every M&P 2.0 owners testimony, including mine. The guys I listen to insisting glocks are the way to go, usually have never tried the M&P 2.0. The guys who prefer the M&P 2.0, usually owned and preferred glocks until they tried the M&P 2.0 and overwhelming convert. I purchased a M&P 2.0 C.O.R.E with ported 4.25 barrel 2years ago and the rest is history. EDC AIWB and an USPSA match every month with it. 17,182 rounds through it and counting.
@@carlosdaniels9515 man I 100% agree with you.
Glock 17 Gen 3 was my first 🥇 handgun. Don't have it anymore but I still remember the serial number. Plan to purchase another really soon.
I have an M&P shield plus but I also have a Keltec-sub2k that uses glock 19/17 magazines and I have about 4 magazines that came with it when I bought it from my friend.
I love my shield and feel like I would like the 2.0 or 2.0 compact, but magazine compatibility with the Keltec is attractive to me since M&P magazines are so expensive. The plus also does not have a hinge trigger.
Are the guns similar enough that having the same magazines is worth it even if I slightly like the M&P more? I am left handed but I don't really care about the ambi slide release, I normally rack the slide myself anyway.
I'm a Smith and Wesson guy... never acquired the Glock feel... I am far more accurate with S&W personally.
Also, side note, I do a fair amount of one handed shooting, because most defense situations won't give you the opportunity for correct weaver stance or whatever two handed competition stance you like, but will likely involve fighting for your life...
I do need to do more weak hand shooting, again you never know when your good hand may be out of commission.
I agree with u 100%..I'm right handed and of course I shoot right..lately I been doing one hand shooting drills and shooting lefty exactly for that reason and also cause I'm having right shoulder surgery in a few months and I'm not going to stop carring my gun cause I'm right handed...everyone should learn to shoot with their non dominant hand
I have both, and love them both. Very, very tough call there.
Both great. M&P 2.0 is Glock evolved
Kaya iam a such Fan of you iam aso a turkish citizen but i live in Germany and i watched all Videos keep goin brother god bless you🇹🇷🇩🇪🇺🇸
Where is the link to the sight you mentioned ?
I thought the M&P’s were kind of dumb until I got one in a fortunate trade back in 2018. I was amazed at how much better they shot than my Glocks. 5 years later, I no longer own any Glocks. Guess which pistols I still have? 😂
love you bro
Excelente Video!!! En mi caso SOLO existe la M&P9 PRO...solo ella y nadie más...❤😊. Muchas gracias por este video de tan alta calidad y contenido. : )
Could use some weak hand drills.. almost always when u finger/arm gets shot/hit with shrapnel, it's going to be on your strong side. Weak side training is an absolute must. Another great video, no surprise coming from CF
I have the G17 gen 5 MOS and the S&W M&P 2.0 .45
I love both for different reasons
Forget the guns, whats your gym routine Kaya? Great vid, keep it up.
I have both in full size, compact, and subcompact, and it's the m&p in my opinion
Is it easy to switch out the trigger of the m&p?
Can’t go wrong with either. Would like to see the newer M&P Trigger.
It's pretty good. I wouldn't want it any lighter for a defense firearm, though.
@@sahzookey the flat face trigger is the way to go which comes with the newer M&P. Having both there is a difference
@michaelthrelkeld212 I just got one a couple months ago. It is good, much better than a Glock.
Man, your biceps are about to explode!
I bought mine from you guys i am absolutely glad i was one of the customers who got that weapon ps out of stock.
My first gun is an M&P 2.0 in 9mm. Love it. Sure it is the hinge trigger but it’s great and feeds everything from brass, aluminum and steel case with no problems. It’s ergonomics are great too. And it was $100 cheaper than the Glock.
Get the apex flat faced polymer trigger kit , it changes the pistol completely. It's absolutely amazing
@@rbur394”shouldn’t need to do that. Only Glocks need after market triggers. Everyone else’s is AMAZING.” - every clown Glock hater
And with that 100 you can get the new apex polymer flat trigger.
@@9770G there are haters, and then there are those who just aren’t Glock cultists and so they like to poke fun at those who are. It’s very entertaining, actually. 😂
@@Spidey_Ethan but it’s not even poking fun when u just sound like a moron. I see sig, S&W, CZ’s all of them with guys who put after market triggers. But they love the try to clown glock guys for doing so. Makes no sense.
Well they do the same that being said take down ability I have to give it to smith for full strip and clean down to the firing pin remove
Love my S&W MP2.0 Metal. Love it.
Didnt realize how jacked he was till he started shooting and i saw his forearms. 😂💪
I love both. I just purchased a few months ago the new trigger 2.0 MP compact optics ready. Sweet weapon.
Friendly reminder, 327 Federal Magnum is the best Revolver chambering !
It can shoot multiple calibers of 32 that pretty cool 😎
Glock needs to come out with backstraps for the 42, 43, 43x and 48
Carried them both, both are fine in my experience. I have found the gen 5 Glock to work better for me. But really not a big enough difference to make a difference once you get comfortable with either.
I own both. I love both. But if I had to choose, I would choose S&W due to their extensive experience and great customer service.
Wish the Glock had a grip angle and feel as the mp
Issued both. Love the glock for simplicity in the armory, but the grip angle on the M&P and the 2.0 trigger make it superior. Glock trigger is spongey, and the grip angle isn't natural for most.
Own both, can’t go wrong with either!
S&W easily makes some of the best pistols ever, and the M&P9 M2.0 is one of the most prolific of all. It’s hard to go wrong with either of these pistols. I really like the Glock, but I truly love my M&P9 M2.0. The latest version of the M2.0 really rivals the HK VP9 in terms of looks with its front serrations and out of the box flat face trigger. They’re truly exceptional pistols! My top three pistols today are the latest M&P9 M2.0, HK VP9 and the Glock Gen 5. No reason to look at anything else, IMO. You won’t find better or more proven pistols, especially in the striker fire market.
If you haven’t tried an APX (mine is an A1), I strongly recommend it. It was my 2nd ever pistol purchase and I believe it’s recoil and accuracy spoiled me. If it had the finish of the ‘2.0 it would be perfect.
@@NJLev I have, thanks.
I'm a beginner but did fire the M&P with optic-height sights at a pistol range. Had a tough time hitting the target, moreso than I think I was with other pistols. The rangemaster thought it might be the high sights. Regardless, I really want the M&P to be "the one" because I already have the SW FPC, so I want the pistol to use the same ammo and mags. Would also like to have a frame safety, and Glock doesn't offer that.
BTW, the newer M&P's have a different kind of trigger safety.
Like both why not like both? I'm not law enforcement so I'd take the 19 or the m&p compact 4in or 3.6in to conceal
Both great guns, but if I'm going to war or could only have one...G17 without a second thought
Unless there’s mud or ice on the terrain. ;)
(Garand Thumb video reference)
In all honesty, though, I trust both. I just have more experience with M&P and I like it more for many of the reasons already mentioned by other commenters.
The Smith and Wesson M&P is my preferred gun, for all purposes. I carry the Shield Plus with a RMRC every day inside the waistband, then I have a 4 inch compact M2.0 I keep around in case SHTF, fitted it with a RMR and threaded barrel. Lastly, there's the CORE Performance Center 5" I have on the bedside. Still keep my Glock 19 Gen 5 for anything else regardless as I've never had a malfunction in 800 rounds with it
I prefer the M&P....don't like the grip angle of the Glock
You realize the grip angle is identical right?
I never measured, but I hear the grip angles are:
Glock: 22deg
M&P: 18deg
@@jstud999it’s not so much the grip angle but the “Glock Hump” that pushes the muzzle up requiring you to tweak your wrist. All Glock needs to do is either get rid of it or offer a backstrap that creates a normal flat backstrap.
Yes the M&P feels so much better. I really like the aggressive texture as well. I like the fact it's American made as well.
Same bro same
Those Police versions should have the metal plates as well. At least mine did.
I got a Glock because the M&P 2.0 wasn't available in California. I've since moved to a new state, but I haven't had a reason to switch.
What year is it?
Moved from Glock to MP. I really wanted to go back at first, but now I don’t even look back. M&P 2.0 with rmr for edc. Tack driver
I think training more in any of your firearm you will get good!! Both are excellent firearms plus H&K are also excellent firearms
Loved the vid.
I’d choose ANY of those over a Sig 320.
The only thing I don't like about the M&P is the slide release is very stiff and very difficult to actuate.
It’s not a slide release, it’s a slide lock. Use your off hand to manipulate the slide and only use the slide lock to lock the slide back.
Great Video 💯 Wish we could own handgun's here in the UK 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Keep using shank :)
💯👍@@amanjol07
Great video! I would pick an M&P all day.
S&W innovates and upgrades there guns in comparison to the market. Glock has been the same since I got into guns. They add a single slide serration for every generation
A genuine win/win situation. I went w/ S&W because it's a traditional American company. That being said, I would have no reservations with looking into a Glock for the future. My wife has a 43X and is happy with it.
i own the s&w mp 2.0 9 i also own a glock 19 my go to choice an my fav hands down all day is the smith mp 9mm
For me the m&p points better and they are both equally capable gun. Easy choice for me. I know you can train into the glock grip angle and ive done it before but id rather not have the pistol fighting against my instincts when i need it
I own a Glock 22,and a Smith and Wesson m&p.40 both are excellent guns.
To me, it looked like the recoil was actually less on the Glock. I think that grip angle seems a bit less natural, but seems to help with the recoil.
I own both. Carry the M&P. No problems with either one. Both are great.
m&p with apex trigger.
m&p winner of GT's freeze and mud test and Micah's brutality test. He ran it over with a bulldozer, several times.
M&P because mine has NEVER had a malfunction of any kind. Can’t say that for any of the Glocks I’ve dealt with.
I thinks its all about which grip angle you prefer. The S&W is a bit less money up front, but Glock mags and accessories are more available. It is really a tossup.
Both great and reliable guns, but i absolutely prefer the Glock 17 😎
M&P 2.0 9mm 🏆
Please do a 540 next time in the opening.