We Torture Your Favorite Pistols In Mud (Glock, Sig, M&P, Desert Eagle, Staccato, etc)
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- On today's video we explore The Muddy Pistol Test. Which pistol will work when it is caked in mud. The answer may surprise you.
00:00 The Muddy Pistol Test
04:07: Glock 17 FIRST MUD TEST
04:32 Sig M18 FIRST MUD TEST
04:50 Glock 19 Roland Special FIRST MUD TEST
05:10 Beretta M9 FIRST MUD TEST
05:28 PSA Dagger FIRST MUD TEST
05:50 M&P 2.0 FIRST MUD TEST
06:09 CZ-75B FIRST MUD TEST
06:34 MK3 Browning Hi Power FIRST MUD TEST
07:12 Nighthawk 1911 .45 ACP FIRST MUD TEST
07:33 H&K MK23 (Navy SEAL Handgun) FIRST MUD TEST
08:29 Staccato P FIRST MUD TEST
08:57 Staccato XC FIRST MUD TEST
09:37 Nighthawk Sandhawk FIRST MUD TEST
10:18 Walther PDP FIRST MUD TEST
10:39 Desert Eagle FIRST MUD TEST
11:10 ULTIMATE MUD TEST
11:57 H&K MK23 ULTIMATE MUD TEST
13:09 Staccato P ULTIMATE MUD TEST
14:08 Walther PDP ULTIMATE MUD TEST
15:41 Desert Eagle ULTIMATE MUD TEST
16:35 Nighthawk Sandhawk ULTIMATE MUD TEST
17:39 CZ-75B ULTIMATE MUD TEST
19:40 Glock 17 ULTIMATE MUD TEST
20:54 Sig M18 ULTIMATE MUD TEST
21:50 PSA Dagger ULTIMATE MUD TEST
23:15 M&P 2.0 ULTIMATE MUD TEST
25:29 Nighthawk 1911 .45 ACP ULTIMATE MUD TEST
26:22 Glock 19 Roland Special ULTIMATE MUD TEST
27:30 Beretta M9 ULTIMATE MUD TEST
28:55 THE ULTIMATE MUD TEST WINNERS
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I'm basing my happiness for the day on whether or not the pistols I like function during this test.
Unironically same.
M&P gang!
Truth.
How'd it go for you?
Soo you happy or depressed today?
Just a little advice. Don’t drop you gun in the middle of a fight. And if you DO drop it, don’t drop it in a mud puddle. And IF you you do drop it in a mud puddle by accident , don’t step on it with all of your body weight. And if you do happen to do all of those things in the middle of a gun fight, then don’t scoop an extra pile of mud on top in between dodging bullets. If you follow all of these steps, then mostly any of these guns will serve you well.
Underrated comment lol
Well you could plausibly fall with gun, put all your weight on it and scoop some mud up while picking it back up in a panic
Except the Desert Eagle of course.
Agreed lol😂
So let me guess, your gun failed this test?
* Pats the M&P compact currently in appendix. * We did it, big guy.
We made it 😎 lol f yea!
Me rn on shift
Me too shields r better than glocks, sights, triggers, grips, looks imo
Same lol
There's a reason why I've had my M&P as a EDC for about 8 years now, as it literally hasn't failed on me once no matter what ammo I run through it... but the ice and mud tests just solidifies how amazing that gun is even more.
May I ask which model u carry?
Same question
@@ogoshikoshi1527 M&P .40c
@@BCM1959 M&P .40c
@@livefreeprintguns ty
It was interesting to see the Desert Eagle do better in the mud test than it usually does with normal operation.
bro we had no idea how it did so well
It's built for the holy land desert environments so the mud probably helped lubricate it
Probably because of the different action from the other handguns. I'm curious how the Beretta PX4 Storm would have performed since it has a rotating barrel system.
Useful consumer advice for Desert Eagle owners - If it's not working, throw it in the mud and step on it!!!
@@GarandThumb only gas op pistol in the lot
as an Elbonian mud farmer I'm glad to see my country represented in this test
Reminds me of the episode of family guy where they moved to the south and the one kid says “I gotta go help my dad bring in the mud harvest”. 😂
Glory to Elbonia!
ELBONIA ÜBER ALLES
For Elbonia!!!
I'm also a Mudd farmer. Well it's 5% Mudd. 95% horse shit.
As a sig owner i was stoked to see the m18 perform as well as it did.
Makes me feel way better about my duty and carry pistols
Same here
As a DE owner, I'm happy to see it still doesn't care. Obviously not a carry gun, but still a great engineering marvel of a gun.
I carry the civilian m17 and it goes strong, but the mil version is straight doody
Just don't drop it...
Jk 🙃
@@usmcvet0313that joke got old about five years ago when that issue was fixed.
Another Glock f@gboi…
Charles is by far my favorite addition to GarandThumb. 😂
“Hentai heaven”
As someone who carries an M&P, I’m pleased to see its performance in the ice and mud tests, especially so when I live in Arizona where neither condition will be an issue
Flagstaff and the monsoon season are looking for you!😬
It doesn’t rain in Arizona?
@@Bigbossman12624 It rained last night in the Phoenix metro area. I snowed up north.
You say that but I've taken classes here where it went from 100 to a hailstorm multiple times throughout the day.
"Me sittin' on my M&P high horse in Arizona. Oh, what? you don't know about the M&P? Well, let me tell you... winner of the Ice & Mud Challangers Cup also know as the I&MCC. And, I've been carrying it WAY before Garand Thumb even tested it! I know a good gun when I see one."
"Isn't Arizona all sand and rock?"
"WELL, if you recall I said it was a good gun. Not a good gun for my specific terrain..."
Love it! I would like to see a sand test from it though. That way, whether im in the swamps down here in Oregon, the deserts here in Oregon, hiking the forests here in Oregon, or doing shit on the icy mountains during the winter here in Oregon. That I'm covered lol.
Mika: "How can we piss off the firearms industry today?"
[Mike sees Charley outside laughing and playing in the mud]
Mike: "I have an idea..."
That would have made a great intro video.
The mud challenge had Charley’s name written all over it.
😂
I would love to take Charlie to a bar and let him go.
🤣
I love seeing the M&P do so well. I was an early adopter.
M&P line is such a beast. Won the ice test, won the mud test. Thank you SW for these pistols, unbeatable when failure isnt an option. Truely "Military & Police". I absolutely love mine in both compact and fullsize 😎 now we just need more aftermarket for the shield 45 2.0...... 🙏
I dont understand how garand thumb wasn't nominated in the most entertaining content creator category of the gundies, he's been killing it lately.
a million times better than armed clickbaiter
Because youtube doesnt like guns
Good question he has the most subs by a long shot I think
Who actually won thay award?
@@FastSlothVideos voting is still going
“You merely adopted the mud. I was born in it. Molded by it.” - 1911
1911s are garbage...
@@deanhinson4095 For a range baby - they're fine...kinda. Ha!
lol exactly, can you imagine all the times 1911s were soaked in mud in the South Pacific and the trenches of Europe
@@codywalz8555 Not really. The 1911 that fired covered in mud was a $6000.00 specialty build, and functioned the same as the $400.00 mass produced M&P. I'd rather buy a $400.00 "range baby"...
@@deanhinson4095 Hence the "Kinda." They do feel good, but I'd much rather have a tool that works when I need it to.
Charles’s sarcasm and dry humor is unmatched
My daily carry is a G43, but my "SHTF/get to my rifle" pistol is a M17, so I was happy to see how it performed.
I've carried an M&P for years now and have close to 10k rounds through mine without a single failure. I am definitely going to be basing my personality around the fact that I've chosen correctly based on this testing.
Lol if u think Mike’s torture tests hold any weight u are a fool. This tests are sooo inconsistent. If u want real torture tests that are done the right way look at MAC’s torture tests of handguns. Those tests are done the right way. And the Glock out performed the Sigs and and M&P’s in his sand/dirt/mud/water test.
I have M&Ps with over 15k rounds, with no issues! My hellcat has 8k
@@dragonsofthunder 8k miles?
W
Amen! Love my M&P shield!
“Make fun of people with different guns, religions, races…”
Absolutely made my day 😂
Lmao. All in good fun, of course :D
Mike couldn't take his energy at all. It was hilarious
@@fizeekpoaster Based to the core.
But the wrong people hijack that stuff...not worth it
That was fucking hilarious 😂
This has been my favorite Garand Thumb video 🤣🤣🤣🤣 really love the dry humor that's been coming with the content
I've always been a fan of the Browning hi Power and Cz75, but I was also not surprised at all that they failed this test.
Adding the guys to the channel has really stepped it up a notch. Their value can not be understated.
Actually it can be understated. Just don’t mention it.
It cannot be OVERstated.
@Steve Delaney i like the old presentation manner as well , but i prefer this objective data. back then when comparing stuff he was often too afraid to say which was better. and gave wish wash conclusions.
@Steve Delaney he still has info videos
Thank Charlie.
For those who don’t remember, the M&P 2.0 was also the all-star of the frozen handgun test.
Well.. he said that in the video
Thanks for letting us know, he didn’t say that in the video 5 times wish he woulda
Actually the SIG was the one who did it first on the frozen test but for some reason they only talk M&P.
@@xavierid it's because fuck SIG :)
I carry an M&P and feel like this basically just validated all of my life’s choices. Thank you Mike J. The Jordan of Pewtubers for this validation
I truly love you guys! Turned my tv off 6 years ago when my wife died miss my wife terribly miss lots of my 911 firefighter brothers from our battle at the WTC but because of you guys I don’t miss my tv you guys rule and bless you for your service boys and the PDP got robbed it was still in the battle guys!
I enjoyed the video very much so and glad 2 of the pistols I own made it through!
Thanks guys!
As a M18 owner, I'm glad to see that it did as well as it did. And also that it didn't go off being dropped and stepped on multiple times 😅
GANG GANG
Definitely gonna make people mad unfortunately
@@Highgear145 never understood how people get mad abt their guns not performing well in tests like these😂😂. Only get mad if your gun failed the first test- the 2nd test will never happen to 99.9% ofnpeople
The Glock, P320 and MP are all duty guns. They are reliable.
Didn’t know that until now😳 this thing isn’t drop safe?😂😂😂
Honestly, I'd watch a video of you guys cleaning some of the guns.
Maybe describe where the mud got into the most, tell some stories in the meantime, you know, the good stuff you guys do. Long format video for sure, but I'm willing to guess other people would watch it too.
I'm on board with this.
Yep, same.
Same.
Actually though. Because this would help tell why the Desert Eagle is the best EDC, though from what I've heard, only in .50AE.
… gun cleaning podcast
Would love to see the test done again and including the CZ P-10!
I love my m&p 2.0 in 10mm as a Alaskan. 1 gun to carry for all and can honestly say I have never had a issue with it running everything from super light hand loads, hollow points, and super heavy hard cast bear loads
I've heard it's not an issue in the 2.0, but the only issue I have with my 1.0 is the slide release is prone to dropping upon mag insertion
Look at S&W out here making an idiotproof handgun. And there's Mike becoming the more powerful idiot to finally kill the thing. I'm pleased with how this turned out.
pure chaos
@RogerWilco99 If you make it idiotproof, they will make a better idiot.
I've always wanted an M&P, but I guess not enough to buy one. This video changes things for sure.
@@BrassBashers Was back and forth with m&p and glock at first, ultimately went with m&p because I prefer the grip angle. Having it be this tough is just the cherry on top.
@@mattwolfen my Gen1 Taurus and my Sig 320 (basically the same as the M18 in this test) ran the best through my torture tests. Glocks have not run well in my experience once wet with any sort of debris added. You can check my most recent videos.
Man, I have never been happier about choosing the M&P for my home defense and carry needs than watching it dab on everything else in two extreme tests.
I am of course going to bring this up every time someone argues because freezing muddy conditions are super common in the suburbs of Virginia. Thank you for allowing me to base my entire carry identity around these tests.
It and the Sig are pretty much equal but yes
The M&P has really turned things around on social media, for some reason. A few months ago they were for poors. It's pretty interesting how one dude on social media can dictate what guns do and don't work.
@Jeremy Read sigs not even close you goon
@@jeremyread261 flawless run of the M&P and 3 out of battery is not "pretty much equal"
Sig is for goobers and non Jesus pilled people.
I've probably watched over a 1000 gun vids since early 2017 and this is the most entertaining out of all them
I would love to see this test done again with budget guns. It would be awesome to see who makes the best gun with the least amount of money. I carry an AREX delta gen2 and have always been curious about durability.
old smiths would realy clean house
The S&W M&P 2.0 which won is definitely the cheapest of the 4 winners. By a long shot, I don't even have to look it up.
$450 for that S&W ain't budget?
I bought an M&P as my first handgun when I turned 21 based largely off of price and availability at my local stores. I'm really happy to see that my choice has held up so far.
Don't they shoot out of battery though?
@@FrankieJames7 i had my M&P shield since like 2013, so first generation. It never shot out of battery, although steel rounds didn't cycle through it, and the slide release is trash.
@@nathanphillips9645 its not designed as a slide release, its a slide stop, m&p designed to run slide
Literally same. My first pistol owned and still a great gun
Same, I bought a Beretta shortly after. Guess I’ll keep both!
As an m&p 2.0 carrier i couldn’t be happier that it passed not only the ice test but mud test too. M&P for the win!!!
In 2 months S&W will tweet about this.... reminding us of this... again.
its my new EDC, i get to train with it for the first time tomorrow. Im excited and these vids makes me a proud owner lol great upgrade from the hipoint c9
Shit dude, if they make a shield plus in .45 I think I'll pick one up!
@@franks450 ALL METAL BABEEEEY!!
Same here! I carry the M&P 2.0 9c and I’m shocked by how many people sleep on this gun. It’s built like a tank and feels really good in your hands. Absolutely love this gun and will probably always be my EDC
Exactly the video I needed in my life. Thank you.
Loving the dramatic background music
My guess for why the Deagle did so well was because it practically cleaned itself of debris after firing off a shot or two.
A wise man once said "the best pistol is the one we made along the way"
Ah the wise shepherd from Kyber Pass's famous words...
Amen bröther
3D printer go brrrrr
Isn't that PSA's entire manufacturing philosophy?
No clue how I've been into guns for 10 years and watch gun video's all the time yet somehow missed out on this channel. Good thing is I now have so much great content to watch. Love the video's yall make.
Best channel on CZcams. There are some others that are great for training and others that are fun. This is both.
Glad to see the D’Eagle made it thru the mud tests…. Awesome video.
I already figured that the M&P would do well. It really didn't surprise me. What I get more excited about is that with every elemental test that is conducted, the Glock guys get a little quieter.
I own a Glock 19.5 and M&P 9c. Love them both. They’re both very reliable. The M&P is definitely a little more rugged tho. I have seen too many videos though where HK pistols have sucked during torture tests. Where are all the HK fanboys? They seem to be the quieter ones. The HK mk23 did horrible.
@@scott8908 to be fair almost all the guns did horribly during the 2nd test. I am a HK fanboy at heart but obviously i was a rooting for the M&P after it destroyed every other pistol in the ice test
@@scott8908fans of HK are only fans of HK because they think it’s cool that their guns are in video games. I think they’re quiet because the community is mostly nerdy dudes that use them as range toys
Under normal circumstances it seems like a quality side arm will function after being dropped in mud. I wonder how well they would all do if they were dropped and only stepped on once. Which would seem like a more realistic test. The MP definitely did awesome though
@Skookhunter17954 Personally, I believe that it is a great time for pistols. Even some cheap guns are getting a record for reliability(Canik, certain Taurus pistols). I feel that finding the right gun is more about personal preference these days. I just get tired of hard-core Glock fans scrambling to shit on the M&P every chance they get because they don't want to admit that Glocks are overpriced and not even top dog anymore. Sig fans can be pretty toxic as well. But I always seem to get more flack from Glock guys. Or even when I would be at a gun store and I would see guys recommending guns, they would talk about how Glock is the best. Sometimes I would interject on how the market has changed and then I would just get ignored. Like damn, I am just trying to show that you don't need to buy an overpriced brick anymore. Sorry for running off there. The short is, most pistols will be reasonably reliable. But I just want certain toxic fans in the gun community to accept reality and stop being such pricks about people choosing other brands.
It's been known since the mid-to-late 90s that the Desert Eagle .50 AE is the best weapon ever created.
Call of Duty never lies
@@GarandThumb Desert Eagle also survived getting run over by a tank on Demolition Ranch's channel.
I do wonder if the problems you ran into with the gun were due to crappy mags or just the gun not being clean.
It definitely shines in Far Cry 6.
might have been a break in period past what we initially did for the test
I'm impressed with M&P passing ice AND mud tests!
It was satisfying to see Garand Thumb flinch as much as I do. Great Video!
You have no idea how gratifying it is to be an S&W fanboy and come across these videos (this and the ice challenge) organically. It's like the universe granting you an "I told you so."
Totally agreed Andrew! I LOVE my M&P 2.0. It was my first gun, and 6 pistols into my collection now, it’s still my favorite!
Me too, been a S&W fan for years and it is good to know she will run all day long.
What I heard from the XM17 trials was the M&P had a hairline fracture in the frame when they did a round dump torture (think it was 10k without failure). It was implied that the M&P did shoot all rounds, but due to compromised frame it was disqualified. If that's the case, its just a matter of getting the right mixture in the polymer and she would have been good for the the next phase of trial, though it would have been nice if the Army actually conducted the 2nd phase of the XM17 test.
*cries in Ruger*
@@losdawg6265which one did you get for your first gun
Carried the M&P .40 while working as a federal contractor for about 8 years. Never had a malfunction. Super underrated weapon.
Looked like you said MP40
Carried m&P40 for 6 years as well, zero problems, very accurate and reliable.
Just got a M&P .40 3 days ago. Looking forward to getting some rounds through it at the range.
Triple Canopy?
Fed
I had fun that was a great test I’m a huge M&P fan.great test and enjoy your videos
Thank you for proving to me on why i love the m18
I initially went with an M&P due to ergonomics. I really wanted a Glock, but it just didn’t feel the best. Smith & Wesson is rarely talked about or pushed by influencers from what I see on social media, it was always Glock and now Sig, but I think S&W manufactures a great product and they stand behind it. Even after cleaning and oiling regularly, my slide developed a rust spot. I contacted S&W and they sent me a new slide. Easy process to return the old one and receive the new, all within 10 days (probably less than 10-it’s been several years) Love my M&P.
Bro ive ran thru my beretta px4 like ur highschool girlfriend and its STILL CHUCKIN, I’ve literally never heard anyone talk about it… u think u have it bad lmaoo
@@pablo4yu Nothing wrong with the PX4; they just came out well after the US LE market had started shifting towards striker-fire pistols.
I've had M&P barrel lugs shear off and lock up a loaded gun. They aren't made the best.
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the bbt (bigbang theory) is a manmade construct.
How insane the chances must be for mill's of plants and animals to magically mutate over ludicrous spans of time.
We should find missing links.
However we dont, we only find Fully Formed animals. If animals could evolve into totally new animals, there should be a chance we find missing links.
ONLY THE SIMPLEST LIFE FORMS SHOULD BE ABLE TO EVOLVE INTO EXISTENCE. GENETIC ENTROPY WILL UNDO WHATEVER BENEFITS THE ORGANISM MUTATED, FASTER THAN THE ORGANISM WILL MUTATE BENEFICAL TRAITS.
EVEN THEN, THE CHANCES OF ANY ORGANISM MUTATING A BENEFICIAL TRAIT ARE NEXT TO NONE. HOW MUCH MORE CRAZY IS EVOLUTION, WHEN APPLIED TO MILLIONS OF PLANTS N ANIMALS??
FOR THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE....
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We switched to the M&P in 2009 at the Detroit police department and after shooting thousands of rounds through them I’ve never had a malfunction. My edc is the Shield plus, love the flat trigger. I’m glad m&p did well in your test. Great channel.
My first ccw was an m&p 40 police trade in from Detroit pd!
We have a police trade in from the DPD in my gun shop. Pretty cool!
the great outdoors company is a joke
I bought 2 9mm and 1 .45 mp shields back in 2017 for less then $200 each. While they have been reliable guns they are to big for the round count imo. Only time I ever really carry that one is if I am going somewhere I have to leave in my vehicle. I haven't looked at the newer shields so maybe it has been addressed with the size to round count.
@@caleb9422 The Shield Plus is a 16 round capable gun with the new 15 rd mags, so the “issue” has been addressed; however, the size to capacity issue is not actually an issue. Many people still carry 1911s and revolvers, and they are perfectly equipped to defend themselves. Nothing wrong with wanting more capacity in a small gun, but it isn’t an issue for many to carry less. Boils down to preference.
very well filmed, dude. Great video
It always makes me smile when i see the M&P do well. i feel like a made a good choice with my CC
I think the Deagle works well as an EDC as long as you soak it in mud each day before carrying.
But you have to have the 10 inch barrel, not the standard one.
Apparently so! I remember the ONE time I shot a Deagle, it was at a range and just a rental pistol so granted who knows how many rounds it had seen since last being cleaned but wow... jam-o-matic. As I recalled, struggled to get through 2 consecutive rounds, might not have managed 3 whatsoever.
@@normanmccollum6082 that sounds more like an operator error, if you limp wrist it, you will jam it every time
As long as everyone else's guns are muddy we good
@@normanmccollum6082 If it's a rental gun, most likely it needed cleaning or even replacement springs.
Desert Eagles are maintenance hogs. My personal gun only ever had one malfunction, where a .44 Magnum case got stuck in the chamber and didn't extract (which seems more like a problem with ammo than anything else), but I always clean my gun every time I fire it, even if I just put 20 rounds through it. Also the springs are recommended to be replaced every 1000 rounds.
The fact that the m&p 2.0 won the ice test and mud test makes me love the fact that I carry and train with this gun.
Lol if u think Mike’s torture tests hold any weight u are a fool. This test was sooo inconsistent. If u want real torture tests that are done the right way look at MAC’s torture tests of handguns. Those tests are done the right way. And the Glock out performed the Sigs and and M&P’s in his sand/dirt/mud/water test.
Good lad.
Same here.
I think everyone forgot that the M18 also breezed the Ice test without a problem.
Same.
Always great content….thanks
After watching both of these videos I went and bought an M&P Shield Plus as my first conceal carry piece, thanks, Garand Thumb :D
Oh boy! Another stress test video to base my personality on!
I've been EDC'ing an M2.0 since 2017. And thanks to your freeze test and your mud test, I feel so much more confident carrying it! This was awesome!
Now you can eat your lunchables with both hands worry-free!
I just got myself a m2.0 a few months ago to be my new edc and these tests make me so happy
I was worried I was about to get a reality check since I've grown extremely attached to my M&P 10mm 2.0. Makes me even more confident carrying it as my EDC.
Great video! Thanks so much for making it.🔫🔫🔫
Always been an S and W fan and finally an opportunity to shine!
I love my M&P, so it was pretty satisfying to see it dominate this and the ice test video. Maybe people will start giving it the respect it deserves.
SIG fanboys need to justify spending more money on an equal pistol that randomly shoots your cock off though :'(
Hopefully the Glock fan. Boys won’t drive our prices up 😂
Very cool guns for sure
Of course not, 95% of people base their opinions of firearms exclusively on bandwagoning on other people's opinions to mask their utter lack of experience or knowledge of firearms.
I don't care what other people think. M&P is my go to and they're decently priced still. Anyone that doesn't respect a reliable .40 is irrelevant and their opinion means nothing.
The MP 2.0 did really well in MAC's elements test, and through most of their gauntlet test. Same with the USP in .45, which is why I was surprised to see the Mark 23 not perform very well here.
I was surprised at the mk23 as well
@@GarandThumb Mk23 was designed for .45 ACP 185gr @ 1200+ FPS, a +P loading, nowadays known as .45 Super. It was noted during trials as being unreliable with standard .45 ACP.
My choice of an M&P 2.0 10mm as my skin/ice walker gun has been validated.
@@Totem4285 🤓🤓🤓
@@Totem4285 .45 Super is more like +P+. It's definitely more potent than just +P.
Literally my favorite gun Channel 😂
my everyday carry is a M&P 2.0 chambered in 9mm and i’m super happy with these results. Amazing pistol for the price!
This video totally changed my idea of what carry gun I should get my wife's boyfriend. She deserves it!
My wife's boyfriend Dontarious doesn't need a gun. He's a real man.
Gimme somdat Ukraine money
I’ve learned a very valuable smith and lesson today
Loved the test. And grate to see the MP 2.0 do so well, i own 2 of them 1 in 40 S&W and 1 in 9mm both shoot so good. Would have like to seen a an XD the mix though.
I often forget how insanely massive the H&K M23 is until someone with banana hand syndrome holds it.
A weapon to surpass metal gear
Alternatively if the Mark 23 is the gun you handle the most, everything else just feels tiny.
My thoughts exactly lol
I demand a redo with MAC 's Mud!
I bought an M&P 2.0 as my first carry gun in 2018 solely because I didn’t want a Glock. I feel like, after all these tests, my choice is validated.
Me too! Full size 2.0 carrier here, no regrets.
I just hated the Glock ergos. Though I was always a S&W fan. But I contemplated trying various companies when I was searching for a modern carry gun. But when S&W released the 2.0, the more I read about the improvements over the first gen, the more it made sense to me. Then I bought it and it ran amazingly for years. It still does. Still, no matter how much I insisted, I could never talk about the M&P's merits without a Glock guy scoffing about it. All because Glock had "time" to be "proven". I am just glad that the M&P 2.0 has had enough time and testing to "prove" what I have been saying for years.
My friend has one, not sure why but I never liked it. Ny all accounts its a great gun but i just cant like it. Hurts my hands when firing in a way that glock doesn't, even though it's supposed to be "smooth" bc of the gas.
(I say "glock" but I have a beretta apx because I also refuse to get a glock. Close enough tho)
@@kissmyoradora83 s&w worst guns ever! the hold,handling, all of it! threw mine in the trash..because...california lol
And it only took 5 years for the validation! 😂
I literally laugh out loud on every episode. This is legit the best CZcams gun content out there!!!!!!!
All I know is that every video that is posted by Grandthumb puts a smile on my face!!!
It's wild to see how the energy of this channel evolved over the last half decade.
Was very uncomfortable watching Charlie testing the depth of the mud puddle
everyone was
@@GarandThumb it was the unwavering eye contact for me
You misspelled aroused
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@@nicks9541 That’s a man with conviction right there
I got hard and now I gotta talk to my shrink
love these vids!!
That was really awesome content!
I've been carrying an M&P for years now and these videos always make be unreasonably happy 😂
@@YuTube_Username Those are fighting words. I’ve had my m&p 2.0 for 5 years. Thousands of rounds-range trip twice a month. Not a single issue. Hold your tongue, trash.
Likewise brother. Glad you like it. Jerry Miculek’s first choice for a reason.
Military&police is just a gay ass name tho
@@randomchannel4886 couldve been worse, could of said "grip zone" iykyk
@@randomchannel4886 I mean. I guess? But considering that was a big part of their target market it makes sense
The HI Power failing in the first round just broke my heart. I've owned my 9mm Browning for over 25 years, through countless rounds and not one jam. Kudos to the 1911! Thanks and cheers, fellas!
HUGE Hi-Power fan, too. Somehow, I just knew this one was gonna choke. My personally HP has been through thousands upon thousands of round and a full rebuild and just keeps on running but I just knew this one was gonna give it up in the first round. It still bummed me out. The "straight" 1911 actually kinda surprised me on round two.
I call foul. Look at how gently he dropped the prior plastic guns in comparison to how he threw down the Hi-Power. Yes, at least the Nighthawk 1911 fared well.
My jaw dropped when that happened!
I have to shake my head at that. The 1911 and the Hi-Power are the same basic design
@@ericvanswoll4611 Yeah but the hi power has a trigger disconnect, and tighter tolerances than the 1911, and the 45 has a bit more push back on the slide, which probably ate through the mud better. I think the hi power and CZ 75 had the same issues, they just don't have the space for the mud to go, and both don't fair well in sand tests either. So keep your gun clean and they'll do you just fine (i carry a staccato so i lost too lol)
Between the ice test and this mud test, makes me feel even better about my mp 2.0 purchase
Can we just take a second and appreciate the pure oration genius that Charlie regularly offers up.
Consistency is what he brings to the game
Really surprised at the MK23's performance considering the extensive prior testing the military subjected it to.
THAT!
That’s the one that hurt for me. Tough seeing your grail gun fail.
@@pjkf01 I read somewhere else here that the Mk.23 is optimized for .45 Super, so .45ACP might not have been strong enough to open the action once there was some resistance from the mud. Given the most frequent malfunctions were due to failures to eject, I think that makes sense.
@@pjkf01I was sad to see it fail, but then every single gun ended up failing too, so I feel better now lol.
Hk and their gimmicks 🤦🏻♂️
That beginning monologue was EPIC. "SITUATION..." 😂
StarCraft Mutalisk sound, awesome
This actually confirmed to me that im getting a M&P 2.0 right after i finishing my AR build. That thing is INSANE!!
Smith & Wesson has been around for as long as they have for good reason. Between this test, the ice test, and Honest Outlaw leaving his out in the middle of Iowa for 3 months in the elements and it ran flawlessly. It’s hard to say it isn’t the best gun around. It’s affordable too. As a person with a PDP. I’ll have to recommend my friends and family to a S&W. Thanks GT.
Got a link to the Honest Outlaw video about leaving it in the elements for 3 months? I kinda want to watch it now. haha
The M&P is quite possibly the best pistol available today. I love mine, and I’ve shot a lot of guns. I love HK and Glock, but anyone who thinks M&P isn’t at least par to those two are myopic at best. I rank the M&P equal at the least!
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Awesome video. Think imma grab a PDP Pro SD
Made my first handgun purchase a couple weeks ago. Compared the Glock 19, Walther PDP Compact, and Smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 Compact on the range. Wasn't a contest. M&P was tops for me. I don't expect to be in such extreme conditions, but it's great to see how reliable it can be.
I assume the Desert Eagle performed so well because it's gas operated, while the rest are recoil operated. And the half inch oomph helps get the mud out faster
The Eagle definitely had physics on its side with this test. Lol.
SEE? HALF AN INCH CAN DO GREAT THINGS TOO
@@candle_eatistI think you mean 4/8 of an inch
I'm glad to see what I carry (M&P 2.0) perform so well even under the most ridiculous of conditions! Honest Outlaw did a video some time back where he left his M&P 2.0 outside for 3 months and that gun fired through two full mags.
I saw that video, thing did not look good when he started but ran like a champ.
Impressed with the m&p
Garand Thumb's comedy is unmatched except for demo ranch. I love these guys so much
I'm not surprised by the M&P. When we were doing extended training weekends with MidWest Tactical we decided to stress test our pistols. The glocks (gen 4) started failing completely about 200 rounds in with out a quick swab. My M&P 40 had its first misfire at 445 rounds in, and stopped extracting in the 490 range but could continue to fire by manually being cycled each time. It didn't stop working until 600 rounds in.
What was the stress test procedure? I clean my competition G34 with all lightened springs about every 1000 rounds and don’t have malfunctions. So were you guys also throwing dirt at the pistols or what?
@@davidzzz94 We were not intentionally dirtying the weapons, but it was a very hot dry summer weekend in a gravel pit. All of that fine dust got into the weapons, but the S&W was much better sealed than the glocks.
@@alternate40krules Your channel is solely Warhammer 40K content.
Ps: no firearm is "sealed". Tolerances can be increased to raise reliability, that is about it.
As Yeager (RIP) would say, he's seen more barrels worn out by over-cleaning than by shooting.
The man created Tac-Response and trained 1,000 of students each year for decades.
As for your original comment, rubbish.
Stop posing, silly basement dweller :D
The Desert Eagle doing well here actually makes sense. It's a totally different action and a pretty violent action at that. There's no way for stuff to get in the locking mechanism unlike the Browning tilting barrel designs used on most pistols. This is also making me want an M&P lol
Gas operation goes BRRRRRT
Yeah I wasn’t really surprised about the desert eagle based off of the power alone. There’s a lot of pressure operating that action.
Dew it, M&P is such a nice handgun. Got my wife the 2.0 Compact and it’s amazing.
Full size M&P Performance Center. My go to for many years.
I was on the edge of my seat the whole time! Great music / editing!
You see, i just purchased 2 M&P M2.0 metal frames, and i have yet to shoot them. After seeing these tests, i am positive of my purchase being the best. Thanks @GarandThumb!!!!
This makes proud to rock an M&P 2.0
Mr. Thumb. This is more entertaining than most modern , big budget TV series. Thank you. Please keep making this style of content.
What's TV? That antiquated pile of propaganda horse poo? Yeah their ratings are in the toilet.
So glad I got a m&p performance center 2.0 for my first gun
Charlie & Micah were so happy with that softball toss @ 22:40.
Well I think I can speak for all of us that it felt like a dagger in the heart seeing the Hi-Power fail from a little bit of dirty water on it lmao.
Only boomers. Lol
There's another torture test video I saw with a Hi point & it worked pretty good. Can't remember who did it but it could just depend on the specific gun idk
And to think the Browning Hi-Power was designed for the French military with trench warfare in mind. Still a classic and a favorite of mine.
I’m so happy to see my beloved M&P 2.0 do it’s thing. I’m not sure who talks down on it, though. Through my own personal experience, I have let about 12-15 people shoot my 6 pistols, and almost every one of them picked the M&P as their favorite shooter. It’s such an awesome gun. I have about 2,500 rounds through mine, and go figure…not a single malfunction.
@@blackpanther5086 I didn’t claim it’s an insane number of rounds. I’d say that’s an adequate number to not experience any malfunctions. I’m up to closer to 3,500 at this point, so I hope you are a little more proud.
@@losdawg6265got the same shooter in 10mm, would you believe it's my first gun? Love the thing
I've put 3,000 through mine since I got it in April without a single malfunction. No matter what I feed her she runs flawlessly. (Things you can say about your gun but not your girlfriend)
@@Pknuckles1804 haha. Well said Scott! Glad yours is running like a champ!
Miss my fullsize gen1 m&p reloading is fast