Massey Ferguson 1840M & 2850M eHST Deluxe Cab Compact Tractor
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- Check out the NEW 2021 Massey Ferguson Cab Compact Tractors. In this video we showcase and compare the 1840M (39.4 Engine HP) and 2850M (48.8 Engine HP) eHydrostat Models. Featuring the Return to 100% Engineered and Manufacturers ISEKI built product. ISEKI has been partner since 1991 and now with the help of AGCO Power Engine ISEKI Premium Engines return to Power these new model. 1800M Series is the small chassis 35 to 40 HP - 3 Cylinder Models and the 2800M Series is the large chassis 50 to 60 HP - 4 Cylinder Models. Come experience the Premium Difference from Massey Ferguson or Visit your local dealer or find yours at: www.masseyferguson.us/find-a-...
If in West Central Missouri near Kansas City come visit us at Vahrenberg Implement in Higginsville, Missouri, Missouri 13 Highway and Interstate 70 or online at www.vahrenberg.com - Auta a dopravní prostředky
The most informative video on the net. Great tractors and great video. Thank you for posting.
Thanks for the Comments. We try to do our best to help others learn about the great products from Massey Ferguson. Appreciate the Comments and taking the time to watch our Video.
After researching compact tractors a lot, I decided to buy a 2860m from my local dealer. No buyer remorse at all! Your videos were a big part of my research. Getting 3rd function, loader, snow blade, 400 pounds of cast iron wheel weights, 2 rear remotes, engine block heater, standard cab, radio, hydro trans. Maybe a rear snow blower and grapple bucket too. Never have enough toys! Thanks Doug!
AWESOME! Welcome to the Family and glad we could assist in helping making the best buying decision for you. Share some video of you getting to "Play in the Dirt" with your tractor we love seeing them in action!
i will be picking up my new 2860m cab very soon, thanks for all the vidios i learned alot
Glad to we could help. That is an Awesome Model and Great choice.
Metal hood and rear fenders, YES!!!! Nice video too.
Heavy Metal is much more repairable when you have an ott-oh. Cheaper to repair too! Thanks for the comments and thanks for watching
Beautiful tractors. I will get the 1840 M next week :)
It's worth the wait...love to have several of them instock...hard to keep the 1840M instock.
That 1840M is a cutie pie!
We think so too! Love the new look of the 1800M Series. Thanks for the comments!
Another awesome video Doug. Including the chart at 5:43 will help others in the future!...If you are looking for video ideas I can't find a video of attaching and removing the FL series loaders on the global series.
That chart should help people understand how the DPF System and glad you liked it because we thought it would help understand what is happening too. The only different in the FL Loader on the 4700 than the 931X is the lock n go tabs - just pull out and turn a quarter to lock the tab then it's same as 931X. czcams.com/video/Hz4kGCaaNAE/video.html
Very nice video. Thank you thank you thank you. On the 2850. Does it have a exterior three point Lever behind the tractor? When you’re back there hooking it up, you don’t have to use the lever in the cab?
On the 2800M Series 3 Point Control is in the Cab. No external controls. But it's simple open the right door and it very handy location and can operate from the ground.
Very nice
Thanks. We appreciate your comments and watching our videos. We love our Massey Ferguson Tractors too!
Sweet looking tractors, I'll take one of each
visit your local dealer and they can make it happen! If in West Central Missouri come visit us at Vahrenberg Implement
Well done,
Thanks for the Comments and Glad we were able to help learn about the Massey Ferguson Products.
I go to Deys Equipment way up here in Ontario, Canada but man I love your videos.
You should always work with your Local Dealer they are they to help you get the most out of your investment in Massey Ferguson Products, answer questions and keep it running in tip top shape. You should tekk Deys they should make videos to help their customers and others learn about the products. The more all dealers do the better for all to learn.
Actually, they are the best Massey dealer in my area, sales,service and field support is impeccable. I get everything I need from them.
I just really like watching your videos.
First of all greetings from Greece :) It's too bad that these compact tractors can't be imported in eastern Europe (big tractors like 6700 and 8700 r very famous although)... You can find many premium compact tractors here, but i'm pretty sure Massey is at the top of the list.
Outstanding presentation as always!
Thanks for the comments. Not sure about Greece but looking at Massey Ferguson Website for some of the European Countries they show the 1700M listed. Might check out the Website for your country they may be available: masseyferguson.com/
Great video have u posted anything on, the 1825m yet? I am going to get the new 1840m and the 1825m for my Farm, keep up the great work
There has been no announcement for an 1825M. There is a GC1725M and that is still current model and has not had any announcement of updating the GC Series.
Doug, how does diesel filter regeneration affect tractor abilities during the regen? Why would there be a reason to push the button and delay regeneration? Does the auto regeneration take control of engine speed or something like that?
Doesn't effect Tractor Performance in a Massey Ferguson. Delay Regen is for when Regen happens around Flammable Materials or when using in Enclosed Structures as higher volume of exhaust will be released and warmer temperature. Or you have a commitment that will limit the regen to be completed normally 30 to 45 minutes. Auto Regen all you have to do is move the throttle so the RPM are within the Orange Band on the Tach and it will take control. That's the best way to do it is just let the tractor do Auto-Regen. But the user still has control in certain situations.
Nice red tractors for sure
Yes they are! Some really cool features and Super Quiet! Thanks for Watching & Commenting!
Hello, I recently bought a 2850m with the backhoe. Overall, I'm very happy with the tractor, and your videos were a great help in my decision to purchase it over the competition. I am, however, having a fairly significant problem when trying to hook up 3-point implements. The subframe for the backhoe seems to always be in the way of the 3 point arms when they are attached to an implement. Specifically, I just hooked up my meteor snowblower, and the 3-point arms actually scrape the backhoe subframe as I drop the blower to the ground. I have played with the 3-point bottom link adjustments, but nothing seems to solve the problem. It almost seems like this is a design fault by MF. I'd be grateful for your expertise on how to solve this significant problem. Perhaps a video tutorial? I'm sure many folks would appreciate that so that they don't run into the same problem as me. Thanks in advance!
What Category of Hitch is the Implements? 2850M is Cat 1 3-Point Hitch. Cat 1 Inner Span between arms is 28", Cat 2 inner span between hitch arms is 34". Here is more on the standardizations of 3-point Hitch Categories: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-point_hitch
I wish you would do a series on the lift capacity of each of the newer lines (1800M & 2800M series) loaders. Put on a set of forks and a pallet and show how much weight each can lift.
That would be nice to do when we get some inventory and time for a project like that. I'll add that to the list. We did a similar thing with previous models and a 4' x 5' Round Bale with Unballasted tractors straight from the Assembly Centers: czcams.com/video/vRMmYJbaPvU/video.html
I’m trading in my Kubota L4701 for a new 2850M with the deluxe cab, next week it’ll be ready! Looking forward to see how it handles up here in Wisconsin
Welcome to the Family! We been trading for several Kubota lately and moving up to Massey Ferguson. You'll have to share your experiences. Interesting to hear what customers like/dislike when they make a brand change.
Awesome video overview! I've seen on several forums and videos what seems to be a common failure on the 1700s where the rear axel frame snaps at the lower three point arm connection. Has the axel frame casting been beefed-up in the new 1800 series to solve the problem?
I've never heard of an issue with 1700E or 1700M with Axle Frame & 3 Point. Just looked for AGCO Service Knowledge Object and there is no Service Documentation on that concern. If it was a concern there would be a Service Bulletin or Knowledge Object and there is none. This housing has been used for many generations. How in the heck are the using the tractor to damage that. Unless they not properly using it. Like too much slop in the stabilizers by not adjusting them. I would think with all the 1700 we have sold we would have heard of something but this a first to me.
@@VahrenbergImplement Thanks for the info! Another question if I may: where are the 2021 1800m and 2800m series built?
The 1800M & 2800M are manufactured by ISEKI of Japan in their Japanese Manufacturing Plants. The Final Assembly is done at 3 North American Assembly Centers in Edgewood (Baltimore) Maryland, Savannah Georgia and Tacoma Washington.
@@VahrenbergImplement Much appreciated!
Hello, I been looking into Massey. I need some pointers. What models you can attach for a backhoe. I was looking into the 2607 tractor. But, the 4710 is nice too. I would want a backhoe with it. So many models like the 1800 2600 and etc. what is a good medium size tractor. Please explain trim levels and models I need help. E(enonemoy) H and M series. And 1800-on up. Do you get more if you keep goin up the 4000series?? Is there a 3000 series?? Please I need some info
Subframe Mounted Backhoes are available on the GC Series, 1800E, 1800M, 2800E & 2800M Series Tractors. Above these series you can install 3 Poitn Mounted Backhoe Systems since the 3 Point is heavier and can handle the stress and weight. E Models are the Basic Featured Economical Models, M Series are the Mid-Spec more Features Models, S Series is the top of the line full feature models (Only available in the 5700S and above to the 8700S Series). Here is a vide we did that shows the Classification of Series of Tractors we offer from Massey Ferguson the 1700/2700 Series have been upgraded to 1800/2800 Series but still similar. czcams.com/video/jrMc8fV_Fbo/video.html
What is the top road speed on the 2850 or 2860? We use tractors for snow removal...
Going to depend some on tire size and transmission. All 2850M & 2860M Hydro your looking in the 15.73 to 16.76 mph range. The 2860M Power Shuttle your looking at 18.42 to 18.84 with R1 Ag or R4 Industrial Tires.
Do you know if they are coming out with the new model 2850 E for 2021?
I am interested in purchasing a 2075E
But I recently found out that they will be now making 2850 E
2705E was replaced by the 2750E for 2020 and now the new 2850E with ISEKI Engine are coming for 2021.
i may have missed it in there, but does the 2800 series come with a mid p.t.o.?
Mid-PTO is optional on both the 1800M & 2800M. It's dealer installed kit.
Can you use a mid mount mower with the 1840m?
Yes, But you must use the Small R4 Tires or Turf Tires. We did video with the previous generation 1735M with Cab. The New 1835M and 1840M both can use the same 72" Mid Mount Mower. czcams.com/video/PCJ9ba0t4oc/video.html
Thanks for the great videos of the 1800 and 2800 series. I used to own a MF1635 Hydro with a loader and a backhoe which I loved very much. I had it for 12 years (1600Hrs) and never had an issue with. Unfortunately I had to sell it as my work took me to an other country. I'm coming back home and I'm looking to buy a new MF compact tractor that is just slightly more capable than my 1635. So I'm wondering how the 1840M Hydro compares to my old 1635 has far as loader, backhoe and PTO horse power in general. May be I should go for the 2850, but that is a little bit more expensive. Thanks
Depends on Capability Improvements your looking for. If it's Loader or 3 Point Lift Capacity 1835M/1840M are going to be the same. If it's PTO HP or Engine HP capabilities the 1840M will do more and the 2850M even more. Maybe you can share some of the items you want it to be able to do or increase in capabilities you want.
@@VahrenbergImplement Thanks for the reply. Lots of snow where I live, so PTO horsepower for a bigger snowblower is what I need I think - 2850M is probably the way to go for me. I like the Masseys a lot but my favorite thing about them is the hydraulic capability which surpasses the competition. No one else provide 12.6 GPM hydraulic output for implements.
Great review. What is recommended for the 1840 front mount blower size 63" or 72"?
We don't sell many blowers here but the price book shows the 1410 (63") is the one designed to fit the 1840M
How is the turn radius between the two? I have some tight spots on my property.
I have not done a test for that but both are very similar with the Bevel Pinion Style Front Axle and will turn very sharp and if you need more you can apply brakes to turn even shorter.
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So if I am deciding between the two, they are both pretty similar? I assume 10 inches different in length wouldn’t make a big difference.
Longer Wheel Base will be smoother ride. Sacrifice little turn radius but not very much inches not feet. Not that terribly much differences beside HP and bigger engine. Guess it depends on budget, and what you want to do with it.
Could you explain the differences between the 2850m, 2855m and 2860m with the power shuttle. Obviously hp is one. I don't see any videos on the 2855m and the Massey Ferguson website doesn't help much. Thanks for your videos
In the Powershuttle model the 2850M and 2855M are the same size just difference in Engine HP (Price too). 2860M is larger rear end and more hydraulics in the powershuttle model, larger tires but the same cab and controls. If you watch the 2850M Video it will be the same for 2855M then compare to the 2860M. We show in the 2860M video the differences in Rear End Housings on that video.
@@VahrenbergImplement ok. Thanks but don't understand why they build 2 tractors the same with only 5 hp difference
It's 10% more from 48.8 to 53.6 Engine HP. Look at other models 1835M to 1840M is 36.2 to 39.4 Engine HP (9%). GC1723E to GC1725M is 22.5 to 25 Engine HP (11%). Big thing is the 2855M get you in the 40 PTO HP for implements that need more PTO HP for them to be used.
@@VahrenbergImplement you the man ! Keep the videos coming
Is there a factory installed 3rd function for the loader available for either of these two tractors
Not factory installed but there are dealer installed original equipment kits from AGCO Parts Genuine Massey Ferguson Accessories. We install them quite often for customers that want 3rd function. We let our customers custom build the tractors with the accessories they want.
@@VahrenbergImplement thanks! Do you have a part number or a catalog reference? My local dealer seems to not be aware of this?
Tell them last page in Loader Accessory Catalog has them for most all loaders. But here are the numbers: Valve Kit: ACP0426580 for FL Series Loaders, ACP0444520 Handle & Wiring Kit for 1800M/2800M Series Tractors to help you out.
@@VahrenbergImplement thanks! Wish you were closer to me. With this info perhaps I can convince him to figure it out. I want to put a 7.5 foot articulating snow blade on the loader quick attach and be able to angle the blade left and right. Dealer wants to use rear remote to do this, but all I see are long hoses to remove each time I want to swap the bucket, pallet forks, for the blade. Nice of you to put up such good videos. Promotes the tractors and helps lots of other dealers. I’m in central iowa.
3rd Function Kit would be much easier to install and easier to use for you. Push the Button move the Joystick - make adjustment. If not you have to move hand from Joystick to Remote back to joystick back to remote.... ARGGG.
What model accepts a 72" mid mount mower?
1835M or 1840M with turf of small r4 Tires can be equipped with 72" Mid Mount Mower
what's the top speed at hi range gear?
1840M eHydro with 17.5-24 R4 Tires Max Speed say 17.08 MPH. 2850M eHydro 17.5-24 R4 Tires Max Speed 15.73 MPH.
I’m trading in my Kubota L4701 for a 2850m with a deluxe cab next week, I’m up in Wisconsin
Hi can u tell me how much the 1835m lift ?
3 Point Lift is 2,535# at 24" behind the 3 Point Ball Ends.
Loader: FL.2611 Loader lifts 1870# at the Pivot Pin at Max Height of 100"
@@VahrenbergImplement Hi can the PTO handle a 30hp tubo-saw ???
This Turbo Saw implement needs 30 PTO HP?
1840M Powershuttle is 30.0 PTO HP
1840M Hydrostat is 27.9 PTO HP
2850M Powershuttle is 38.1 PTO HP
2850M Hydrostat is 36.2 PTO HP
What's the price point on the 1840m with the deluxe cab?
List Price 4/28/2022 - $ 46,990.65. With too many variables in Pricing & Sales Promotions it is best to work with your local dealer for selling prices. If in West Central Missouri contact us or if you need to find your local dealer use the Massey Ferguson Dealer Locator for current Cash or Low Rate Financing Options: www.masseyferguson.com/en_us.html#dealer-locator
I'm 2hrs from KC Kansas/Missouri. Our local dealer doesn't have any tractors.
Most dealers don't have much in tractors right now...they selling faster than we can keep in stock. If your 2 Hours from Kansas City that is farther than we can service and we will not sell outside the area we can take care of our customers. We limit ourselves to 60 mile radius where we will sell. I can't get enough equipment to take care of the demand in my area of responsibility and sure don't want to sell outside of that and not be able to serve our local customers. Best thing is to PREBOOK with your local dealer...that is what I am having to do for my customers....signed retail order locks in price and promotions on future orders coming in or we are trading orders to get the product for our customers sooner. Retail Sold Orders take priority with Massey Ferguson.
@@VahrenbergImplement Thanks for being upfront on your service area and I'll be sure to go get a order placed sooner rather than later. I also had to do the same when I bought my GC 2610tlb. Again I appreciate your honesty and guidance.
I am still shopping around and still considering the 1835M but I haven't completely decided....I do like it but can't make up my mind....
We do have video on the 1835M Cab: czcams.com/video/Qf8OMNt586k/video.html if that will help.
@@VahrenbergImplement I would love a cab but that's such a big cost adder i can't go for that. I'll just put a canopy on it and a make shift windshield that I can have on for snowblowing lol
We have a Video on the 1835M Platform too: czcams.com/video/_1oxwDsvzNU/video.html
Can you turn off the ehydro?
eHydro is a type of Hydrostat Transmission. The Hydrostat is Electronically controlled to offer more features and control versus less expensive mechanical controlled hydrostats.
So is the "auto throttle" feature always on?
Yes, But if you raise the Manual Throttle it sets the minimum for AutoThrottle. When using PTO implements you only have a little range that autothrottle helps keep you from stalling the hydrostat transmission.
Called them to get a price on a 1840 M tractor they just said we don’t sell anything more than 50 miles away. My mistake I thought they sold tractors
Unlike Cars, Trucks, Campers Boats etc that are mobile vehicles....Tractor Warranty are the Responsibility of the Selling Dealership. To provide the high level of service you deserve when buying a new tractor, we limit our sale area to where we can Service and Support Our Customers, approximately 50 to 60 miles of Higginsville, MO. Taht is the Reason Why just about every video we tell viewers to visit their local dealer so they get the support they deserve when making an investment this big. If outside our sales area you can find your local dealer on the Massey Ferguson Dealer Locator: www.masseyferguson.com/en_us.html#dealer-locator
U should mention if u r talking about gross or net engine power.
Pretty much every manufacturer Publishes the Gross Engine Horsepower to designate Engine HP of tractors. Massey Ferguson uses Gross Engine HP or Maximum Engine HP for the Model Designations and Specifications.
@@VahrenbergImplement yes but why cant u mention that in video vs marking everyone look it up? U say "premium" tractor 1k times a video. I think u can say gross or net hp.
We will try to do that in future videos. Thanks for Watching & Commenting.
My 1835M regens about every 25 hours. Not a big deal though. Only takes 10 minutes or so.
Depends on how it's used. If low rpm use it will regen more often as increase soot is created in the engine. Normal use we are seeing 40 to 60 hours between regens. Best to warm engine before using lower rpm speeds does more natural regeneration and requires less regens.
Not a big deal until it fails. It will sooner than you think. Its one of the biggest mechanical problems in the industry right now. Abolish the EPA !
The first generation DPF had some issues but we are seeing trouble free service with the Current DPF on 1800 e/M Series Tractors. Just like everything you learn how to build better. The First Gen Diesel engines were super hard to start below 40° F but todays can be started in some cases below zero without assistance. Technology improves over time and there are many different style and ways DPF are built. AGCO helped ISEKI make this a Simple Operation and Designed to Last the Life of the Tractor and Guaranteed By Warranty for 5 Years!
@@VahrenbergImplement Nice sales pitch. I will never own a tractor with DPF or DEF.. You couldn't pay me! Now, sell it more so I can have a good laugh! 🤣
I actually have Purchased 2 Pickups because they have DEF and DPF because they get better fuel economy. They are roughly double the fuel mileage of previous truck I had without DEF & DPF...even with the additional horsepower (To Create Horsepower you have to add more Fuel). DEF/DPF Systems remove other precombustion engine exhaust reduction components like EGR that reduce the efficiency of the engine and treat it post combustion. Your going to have emission systems either before or after the combustion.
top speed please?
1840M Hydro with r4 17.5-24 is 17.24 mph
2850M Hydro with R4 17.5-24 is 15.73 mph
@@VahrenbergImplement thx!
Does the 1840 use def?
@@tronstone7679 None of the Massey Ferguson 1800E/M or 2800E/M Series Tractors Require Diesel Exhaust Fluid for Exhaust Emissions.
I wonder why you guys don't have a dual hydraulic pump on your Tractors?/ all of the other Tractors have Them 🤔
Massey Ferguson has Dual Engine Driven Gear Hydraulic Pumps it's listed in the standard equipment. One pump is for the remote flow others is for steering.
@@VahrenbergImplement yes I know but why don't the 1840m dont have it??
All 1800M/2800M has Dual Engine Driven Gear Pump. This pump has 2 sections a Main Pump and Sub Pump built into the Engine Driven Pump. I looked in the service manual and it shows how the Assembly has 2 Sections to make a Dual Pump.
@@VahrenbergImplement Good I have one more Question, can the 1840m left a mini clip it cut's down Trees its about 600 pounds??
What is the Hydraulic Flow and PSI required but the clipper? Not familiar with that product.