Complete Step by Step How To Square a Roof
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- In this video, I show the complete process of how to square a roof. I have shown this across many different videos, but I wanted to create a complete step by step tutorial for someone to follow in order to square a roof. In my opinion, squaring a roof is extremely important. Anyone that knows what they are looking for can see when a roof isn't square. Especially when Metal Roofing is being installed.
I think if someone follows these step by step instructions, you can ensure a square roof, which will make many other processes down the road that much easier.
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RR Buildings love these kinds of vids.
Always helpful as usual. I so want to build one of these on my property but having the funds always alludes me.
I highly recommend you checking out tirfors instead of chains/boomers.
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Man I appreciate you taking the time out to run us through this process.
I have a homestead and build my own stuff...this is youtube gold. Thanks
When using the pythagorean theorem, the method I use allows me to avoid calculators and fractions of an inch.
The triangle to find that 90 degree square is essentially 3x4x5. To get higher levels of accuracy with a large building, just multiply equally to all three and use those dimensions. Example would be to multiply the 3x4x5 numbers by 5 to give you 15x20x25. That way, you can use a 25’ tape measure and still get nice accurate measurements with large squares.
No calculator needed and just as reliable.
Not too long a video at all as the teacher rocked the lesson and made it a breeze. One of your best i'd say.
Well thank you
I like how Greg does those controlled slides down the roof. Obviously lots of practice.
dident he say 4 build?
Fast learner
He's marking the perlinsor he would walk down
Greg sliding down just made my day. hahaha!!!
Turn buckle style braces like you see used in concrete would cut time off of getting things leveled. We actually had some made with smaller threads that screw to any length dimensional lumber and that's what we use when leveling exterior walls on our buildings.
Thx for the time, and skills your share. Hope you all had a nice Christmas and a sharp 20-20 to you all!
I always aim for the best, most accurate measurement It usually makes everything easier towards to end. Great job guys!
another knot. loop around finger 3 or 4 times pull taught lock in opposite direction. will stay until you release it by giving it some slack by pulling tighter and keeping strings parallel. you can reuse string indefinitely. Awesome video Thank you !
Good to see you measure every sheet. One would think you could get the first sheet right, then "feel" the ridge, but one would be wrong and have a mess !
I am a metal roofer and a very good one at the least,but I am so grateful for your videos they are teaching me at 47 years old what true work ethic means!
Great videos, please anytime you have the spare time,we all need these!
Buy a speed binder, it would be perfect instead of snap binder! You will love it, you can adjust it without unchaining!
Kyle
I have watched a multitude of pole Building Video's on You Tube. Your Buildings are Far & Above anything else that is available anywhere in the USA. You build the Rolls Royce of Pole buildings. I just wish I was younger so I could have one of your Builds but at 82 I'm too far gone.
You are Truly the Master Builder
Carl
Thanks Carl god bless
Man, straight out, you are awesome! Never have I seen a man in this world not related to me so helpful with detail!
You are few and far in between... you are someone I would give the keys to my house, car, shed, four digit pin to my debit card... you name it- is how trustworthy you come across just by your resilient attention to detail and quality there of.
I know your personality from experience and I can most definitely say you are a man of superior integrity and I know you won’t and can’t give a customer something that isn’t as perfect as you can possibly give them. You were born that way... I’m sure of it.
Great job!.. and tell your men I appreciate them as well because I can only imagine how ecstatic your clients are to your finished product.
Thanks man that was a very appreciative comment and I truly do my best
RR Buildings... it shows, no doubt... it shows. 😄
As a mechanical engineer I can appreciate the precision!
Thank god they got a mechanical engineers appreciation, no one gives a shi* what you think..
@@jimmyhoffa310 Nice. Have a great day.
When your running your sheets I see you’re matching your Lap rib or “good rib” I think you call it, then pulling out your tape and measuring your under lap rib or leading edge for your over hang number. You could eliminate that last step by marking your stack of sheets with a good marker on the leading edge at your desired over hang measurement. And then for remodel work when you can’t guarantee a perfectly straight eve snap a line at an arbitrary point and mark sheets to correspond to that that line.
To each there own. I enjoy the vids 🤙🏼
I have thought about that for sure and honestly not sure why I haven’t yet
I agree with this. I put up metal frame buildings and once we square our roof I mark the lead edge with a marker or even a grinder to give the guys something to line up. Just a little easier, and if u do the saw cut the lap of the next sheet covers it up u can only see it on the bottom but the gutter will hide everything. Great video!
I haven’t made it through the whole video yet but I’m wondering why you don’t use adjustable chain binders instead of the bear trap style? I would think they would allow you to adjust anything in very fine controllable increments. Love your content thanks for what you do
The way greg slides down is how i do it as well i been building carports with my old man for years now and it does make it easier to get from purlin to purlin and get to the bottom for another sheet. Glad to see im not the only one using that technique.
Whatever amount of time spent on truing up the structure prior to laying your steel and roof is well worth it for sure - and thats the real lesson here. A half hour of tugging on chains and setting wedges will absolutely save more than that when it comes time to put down the steel since you wont need to make as many funny cuts to make things work out - great video love it!
Totally agree
Assuming you set all of the post plumb in the beginning are you not taking them out of plumb as you make the adjustment with the kicker under the bottom chord of the truss simply trading a straight eve line for an out of plumb post?
Good question. We plumb all Columns during install yes... but as you noticed we were still off 1/8 to 1/4 max on our string line... when setting a column, even if the level reads good, you could still be off that 1/8”. Once we plumb our corners, the string line tells us how to make the rest perfect
ratchet strap truck tie-downs instead of chains for a finer adjustment when straightening might help - love the work
what impressed me most on this video is he avoided hitting his level on anything walking back and forth through chains and other obstacles.... unless that was edited out. 🤣
Prob a 500 dollar level I don’t blame him for being careful
I was cringing the whole time. I think that says more about me than it does anything else. 😁
No kidding!
I watch this video before bed every night to enjoy some goood framing. Thanks guys, makes me want to put my boots on!
Why not use a ratcheting chain binder for finer adjustments?
actually not as quick and a huge pain...I tried. It wants to spin the chain and is somewhat a pain....I wanted it to work better
RR Buildings not sure if the new style ratcheting chain binders would help those they have a spot for an impact to hook on and tighten up instead of using the handle
Mike Cabrey .. that’s what I was thinking
If you don't mind this suggestion, yes, they're not exactly cheap but, ratchet binders. A little easier and quicker for you to make your adjustments. What you're also not taking into the mix here is, moisture will change your dimensions. That's just the nature of lumber. I know most would say "OCD" much, me, I say, you're just making sure everything is as exact as you can make it. This is why I really enjoy your channel, your "ocd" of precision. Keep the video's coming. Cheers :)
Great videos, thanks! Using a ratchet load binder might enable you to tension the chains in tiny increments rather than having to go a whole chain link.
Kyle, I really hope the folks in and around your community know how blessed they are to have a builder like yourself. I've seen how sloppy builders can be and honestly, I would welcome your OCD my friend!!! 😀 👍Jay👍
Thanks jay
So when you push and pull the building to get it perfect, and then you lock it down with the metal and screws, doesn't that cause tension on the screws holding the metal? I'm guessing the massive number of screws makes this point moot, but how does that tension affect the building over time? I would think it would cause oil canning in the metal, and when the sun hits it and it wants to expand this could cause even more tension.
Good question, but I can promise it’s not as much tension as you would think. Imagine your body without skin or muscle... bones will go every which way. Same with a building. We are merely installing the skin that creates the diaphragm strength we need to hold it all together
High wind puts a tremendous amount of stress on a building like this with high wall long sides. If it holds up through the first big storm it's not going to budge.
I have built a number of steel buildings and the small amount that was necessary to square this build was of no consequence..! I've had lumber warp several inches within several days before I could get back to the building and I used chains and ratchets to pull them back and the buildings still look great 10 years later..!
7:00 "An eight of an inch in sixty four feet" sounds real good to me. Worrying about getting any more accuracy boarders on mental illness I would suggest.
Great video, I’d love to see a video of you explaining all of your lumber specs and spacing in a barn build... girts, purlins, posts, trusses, etc.
Great video thanks 😊. I believe the knot you were demonstrating at 11:55 may be called the Marlinspike Hitch.
Nice.... you can tap the sheets together and put an inch and a half mark with a grinder that way you dont use your tape every time on the Eve . Very nice
you're a perfectionist ... not a bad attribute , however with the primary posts 'plumb' with your level , it may only be in or out within that length of your level , meaning the post could actually be bowed beyond your level's extension ... I always checked the top of the wall and checked plumb with a transit ... building racks to suspend drilling rig pipe in Angola in 1982 taught me that precise matters ... yes, it ain't rocket science but it sure does make a difference getting anything you build as accurate as possible ... spot on , budroe !!!
if you use the ratchet style chain binders instead of the snap style, you can dial that in easier and would not have to use boards to wedge the chain. it would save you a whole lot of time.
I love your attention to detail and you do a great job explaining what you're doing, and why you're doing it- very informative.
Your camera work and editing is excellent also.
Keep the awesome videos coming.
I used to stick frame houses with an old carpenter down in Texas back in the 80 s and 90s we always used a story pole to level from bottom plate to top plate when plumbing walls . It didn't matter if it was 8' wall or a 12 ft wall
Love seeing your attention to detail buddy. Showing the difference between a Pro and an amateur
OCD, I love it. What a great pair we would be, an OCD builder and an OCD customer. That could be scary.
i would say an expencive build.
Rather watch an hour long video showing how things are done than listening to an hour of lecture in a classroom.
Thank goodness for CZcams!
Edit: And thanks to you guys that take the time to video all this good stuff!
We use chains with 2 ton come alongs! Makes tiny adjustments easier. Great video
I know this is an old video. But the make ratchet binders , with those you can make very small adjustments and you don't have to release the tension.
Wondering if you have seen the old school string line trick. Twist a loop about 4 times, hang loop on nail, pull the string while pulling tag end. Makes a pinch knot and holds great
We use cabled tirfors which work really well. I find them easier then the chains just ratchet to tighten or loosen cables dont twist up as your ratcheting might be something to look into and try
Have you ever had a tape measure be off/wrong? Happen to me 20 years ago. Not a carpenter so I was triple checking my measurements while helping a friend putting in floor joists. He kept coming to me and telling me I was off, after like the third, forth one, we stopped and ended up taking a measurement with both tapes and mine was something like 1/4" off.
Yes I have.
One trick that i do sometimes is flush the stack of sheets and cut a little slit on the dog leg at what ever your overhang is. saves you from pulling a tape every sheet. Great work though guys! Keep it up!
When you install a new sheet, you already know your lap is at 1.5 then adjust your dog leg accordingly. Saves a little time. Maybe less than i think. But hope it helps!
Great idea
I've got so many good tips from your videos. I'm confused though on the 40" mark that would put tin 3" from gable. But when you put first sheet on looks like 3/4" overhang. Please help me understand. Love your videos keep them coming!
I wondered about that too. I thought he was going to have to rip a sheet down because of that
Gotta get ratcheting chain binders for this!
It would be nice to see some drawings uploaded sometime that shows chain positions, wedges etc for moving walls in and out. Just easier for those of us who need a visual aid.
man I'm glad to know I'm not the only one with a boss who is obsessed with tiny little details that nobody will ever notice. (awesome video as always)
Well now lets see, how many mistakes did i find.. I watched it all, and i half to say, ya'll were right on all the way. Most people just don't get it that close.. Thanks for Shearing , Texas
As a machinist I appreciate your precision!
34:19 - That's work flow at its best, no time wasted, one job straight to the next with no communication :-)
Instead of Cuma longs use turn buckles with your chains. And stake wedges and use turn buckles to adjust. much easier and easier to adjust. Turn buckles are nailed to wedge boards.
My quick fix roof square is to plumb the endeall and the dominant sidewall, then go.
My corners are already plumbed and locked in with corner braces during the girting process .
If you double tap the display on your construction master pro app, it will backspace 1 digit
Was your first sheet hanging over the Gable edge three inches. Got confused when you started the metal. Great video
I'm also confused? Measure out 40" you would be short 3" on gable? I understand 68' 23 sheets that's 12" over overlap one ridge that's 9" so is that where the 3" comes from please help us understand.
The amount of pride you obviously take in your work. Makes me want to be better.
Curious to know why there is no decking? I know it's not "needed", but is there any other reason why not to use than cost?
You can move the hook on the end of the chain to move half a link as well
The 2x4's are quick but i'm wondering if you benefit or considered using chain ratchet binder instead? Love your work, never done it but when i do, i'll be ready thanks ALL to you!
Thank you for all the videos that you film and put up. It takes a lot of time from your work. Very informative. Thanks you again.
Best video on CZcams on how to square a roof!
So impressed with this guy's skills. Not sure how old this guy is, but holy crap!!!
I fall asleep to these videos it's like construction ASMR or something ♥️
Great job, I need to build me something like this, for my RV's.
So cool to see someone who REALLY REALLY knows what they are doing. Thanks for sharing your knowledge, strong work!!!
Have you thought of making a second video based on this topic just about the chaining of the walls and trusses.
GREAT SHOW Why not laser instead of string and I all was wondering about the opposite side does it move the same ?
Hard to mount the laser somewhere without it also moving we have tried.
I have that same level. Love it... thanks for the video. 👌👍
it's a hefty price tag, but can you put a dollar amount on a lifelong tool that will make your more precise...probably saving you way more in the long run
Ive noticed that even if you get it money, as soon as you start laying sheets just walking around makes the building move quite a bit. Weve started getting it straight, doing x bracing, and we have straps on both sides of each truss and make sure they are all tight to limit the movement
Edit: got to the part where the metal is used to manipulate the facia, that might be difficult if all the trusses are tight
That was money. Love the old school work ethic and pride you take. Also quality workers who have the patience to learn from a master are rare. Thanks for the video.
Can you build here in Alabama? We need 32 x 40 plus two 8 ft porch front and back . Insulated metal or pole barn building and radiant heated floor. Ten ft tall building! Thanks
It’s so good that you dedicate time like this to educate people and consistently do it👍
Could you use heavy duty ratchet straps in lieu of chains in this situation?
I really enjoy your videos and your attention to detail and of course accuracy...you are a craftsman... but i am a little surprised you havent adopted the metric measurement . I am a retired carpenter/contractor, when britain adopted metric 1965 I loved it.. it is so much easier and more accurate that imperial, yes there were a few moaners always are.... i do appreciate that your supplies maybe still be cut in imperial.
I use ratchet straps on billboards all the time and think it would be quick to use them to lineup the building versus chains
31:50 I thought you were going to shift the panel over 3 inches and make the inside edge line up at 40”??? Looks like it’s laying at 37” to me.
Love the way you explain what you are doing.
Thank you
Your videos are excellent.
Glad you guys care about safety. Please reach out to your local rep. On some fall protection training. Your guy on the roof has two fall arrest devices used together. This is a big no no. In general dont ever hook two clips together, only clip to ring. Also make sure your SRL is rated for leading edge. Be safe out there.
Great video thank you.
Im installing metal on a pole barn.
I used your methods to square one side and i have the metal screwed down.
However the other side of the roof is about 2" out of square, any suggestion?
wasnt long at all when we are learning great tips and how to do it the right way
Is there such a thing as a post frame deck?
I’m planning to enlarge my deck. My current deck has a roof over with actual trusses.
So when I enlarge it I’ll have to also increase its roof.
Post-frame just seems easier than attaching the deck to the house.
I know this is an old video but I have a question and hope someone can answer. I'm putting my metal roof up in 2 weeks on a new barn and could really use the tip.
What's the guy up top doing, exactly. Once the guy on the bottom gets his 1-1/2" measurement, he locks that in, then I assume the guy up top also locks in against some measurement / line he previously marked? So he's "stretching" the metal to get where it needs to go? Or does he just lock it in whereever it lands naturally?
Thanks!
Joe
Why not switch your chain lock to the ratchet type? Wouldn’t that give better ability for fine tuning? Just asking- good video!
Thanks fellas! I've learned alot from your vids. Just want to say thank you and I appreciate it! Keep up the fantastic work. Have a happy new year!
Another great informative video by a professional that takes pride in his work. I've been waiting for my contractor for going on 6 weeks he told me it'd be a week and a half. Go figure
It might take forever to get in "The Zone" to make final adjustments. Maybe use both in-line. Get there then fine tune?
And as soon as you step onto that roof it's going to move an 8th or more so what exactly are you doing?
Once you put that 1st sheet on doesnt look like you bumped it ahead 3 inches plus isn't 3 inches too much?
Have you ever thought about use Ratcheting chain binders so you can adjust a little quicker
Can you use a floor or pallets with this? I'm thinking I'll use it to store moving boxes and furniture.
Damn. I would assume most commercial companies aren’t getting it done like you. Great video
Would a Ratchet binder work better than snap binder?
I thought the same thing... actually a pain
RR Buildings I was going to ask the same question as Chris.
Great video! Best "how to video" you have made yet! Thanks for taking the time. I do have a question regarding all of the chains. How many chains do you need for a building about the size you demonstrated in the video? How long do those chains need to be for that building size? Do you have a diagram of how you set up all the chains typically? I was considering using wire cable and "come alongs" instead of chain binders. Do you see a problem with that idea? I am just building my own building and trying to save a little bit of cost where it makes sense. Chain can get a bit pricey.
I know this is an old video and you might not reply, but if you do can you explain how you got the 3inches forward?
I loved the details, that's the best video in awhile. Looking forward to the the next. Do you use twenty footers on the end purlins for the 2 foot overhang and still overlap the next purlin? Great job. Thank you
yes randy when there is a 2' over hang we use 20' and when it's a 1' overhang we use 18'
Once you go through and square up your fascia and square your peak do you go back and recheck your walls for plum? Curious if the pushing and pulling on the trusses would move your walls out or in in the middle of the span a negligible amount or not.