BOSS SY-200 - First hands on look with McRocklin
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I’ve never been more grateful for waiting to buy a pedal… so glad I didn’t get the SY-1 😅
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Exactly. You knew they would come out with a 200 or 500. Presets definitely necessary
You can link the SY-200 to an SY-1 via the effect loop for even more SYNTHetic sweetness.
bruh I wish I would've waited!!! this knocks the SY-1 out of the park!!
The fact that you are a great musician, how much you love playin, even if it's just for a pedal review, and you not givin shit about sharing mistakes, leaves me in a great sense of awe and gratitude.
Beautiful review! :)
The Boss demo was epic, excellent walkthrough
Cheers dude!
Thanks for a great demo of this pedal! I just bought one today after looking at yours, along with many others reviews of it. I gotta say that your demo is the one I kept coming back to though, so thanks again! Great job!
Thank you! 💜🤟🏻
Have fun!!
Great demo Thomas. You seem to be the only person that's demoed this that understands it's capabilities and plays to the sound. The tracking in the SY1 is outstanding but the SY200 seems even better. Boss/Roland are definitely class leading in tracking guitar. Ordered and will be attacking the parameters with MIDI. Keep up the great work, I really like your channel and am pleased to see I hadn't noticed your transition from 800 to 37k subscribers since I first subscribed. Well deserved!!!
Thank you for the kind words, that really means a lot. All the best for 2022. : )
The best demo ever. At last, someone who knows what they are doing, instead of useless blab and spending ages on a single patch. Well done. Thanx.
Thanks for this review so much I've been waiting to know about this product before i buy and thank god you reviewed it...now i know its legit...thanks McRocklin, amazing job as usual...much respect
Your guitar playing is ace I like the way you demo the sy 200 😊😊😊
unbelievable presentation, great player, amazing guitar .. and finally I know the capabilities of this device. Many thanks . My compliments .
Thank you! : )
Parts of my brain just melted this is great 🤘🏻
One of the best BOSS SY - 200 presentations, great video. Thank you !
Thank you 👍🏻
Best I have seen and heard.
That is a lush pedal. Really nice!
Wow! Unbelievable! 👍🏻👍🏻
Sir , McRocklin.You inspired me to buy Boss sy-1!I'm about grateful to you! But now I really want sy- 200!I'm looking forward to a new guitar pedal and new sound possibilities! Thank you!
My pleasure. The SY-1 is still amazing 👍🏻
Thank you! 💜
In a conventionally analog pedal, it lacks the ability to store the tuned sound and quickly (on the fly) switch during a song, performing live. Therefore, I switch to sy- 200 synthesizer!Yuhu! Спасибо!
So, less than a minute in with McRocklin and I'm already sold!!! Of course, I'm now wondering if you've been The Stig all this time???? :D :P
😂😂😂 thanks!
To me the fact that it is polyphonic and tracks so well is like a miracle, because I love Fishman and Roland products but I really dislike having an extra hardware over my guitar!! good job Boss! and good job McRocklin, really awesome playing!!
IT IS a "Miracle"! Hallelujah!
This really looks pretty great.
Sounds wild! Like having a trip or trippy dream!
F! There goes my saving. Goodbye old pedals that I just bought this year.
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I've never listened to your kind of music, don't even know what it's called, but this video is quite impressive! Space age sounds.
Honestly there's nobody that could of demoed this pedal better!
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Wow cheers!
Sick playing mate, can’t wait to get one of these 🤘🔥
Sounds amazing! Really nice demo 👍
Sounds great! Lots of reverb helps. Kinda like slo-mo everything looks cooler in slo-mo.
Hello I'm Ray's bsf and I'm in her set I just wanted to say heloo👋👋
you' re a beast m@n .....you nailed it so well 🏆
I like this pedal and could use it. One of the delays I use a lot has a synth like sound to it. I would hope to be able to achieve something similar with this.
Man great demo, that pedal seems just perfect with midi, just one question, does it also have classic effects like chorus, phaser, tremolo etc....delay and reverbs ?
Thanks.
No effects, I added the effects in Ableton 👍🏻
amazing!
Thanks for this! I have the SY1, and I have to agree with many others..this is what it should have been, to start with. Very nice Demo. Thanks! Also, what a killer guitar!
demo was straight magma!!! gj man. sy1 with memory banks is killer. tho i like the analog sounding knobs on the sy1 compared to the 200 series digital knobs, they're a bit quacky for real time, at least on my dd200 delay when scrolling the time parameter knob. if i had to pick between features it would be to have stored patches so w/e. plus lots of other new stuff. personally the midi is better for me too so i dont have to add an expression
Thanks mate. Good points.
Sick I just ordered one !!! Good job man! Great video playing ect ect very sick 👏👏👏
Thanks!
Think that's good, try the SY-1000
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Hehe
This is awesome!
Thank you! : )
Always wanted an Sy 1, happy I was busy/broke to get one.
Hello, past self. You're thinking about buying this pedal shortly.
Thanks. I have a questions.
Can i use my EV-5 expression pedal in it. In the PDF of the pedal on Boss website it's mention :
You can connect a footswitch (FS-5U, FS-6 or FS-7, sold separately)
to the CTL 2, 3/EXP jack, and use it to tap-input the tempo or to
switch memories.
Does that mean that EV-5 (Expression pedal) is not working on the SY-200? Realy important for me. But i can't find the answer anywhere. Someone can answer me ? Thanks alot !!!!
So it's the same sounds as the SY-1 with the ability to save patches and more flexibility on how the expression pedal can be used?
That's what I'm getting... and hoping. Of course, I just bought an SY-1 3 months ago.
I'm wondering this as well.
Sounds amazing in under your fingers !! So live would you need a separate full range amp ? Or put it through the PA ..
Through the PA would work!! I didn’t use an amp sim on it here. Cheers!
Like a BOSS. 🤜💥🤛
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Hi. Can the boss sy200 arpeggiator be synced to a drum machine like the boss slicer sl2?
Wow! Awesome pedal. Great review.
Do I need it? No. Do I want it? Yes.
Just put my pre order in! Can’t wait!
Just amazing how technology has come cause before you had to buy a pickup and stick it by the bridge or buy a Roland guitar . Awesome stuff and these sounds are way sicker !
Cheers Mike!
Hell ya ‼️ 🌟
Amazing demo and playing ! Do you know if itcan do the metheny gr300 lead sound?
Thanks! I’m not sure on that as I haven’t heard that tone. It does have a good selection of lead sounds though.
I'm absolutely floored by how well this thing tracks! Awesome stuff, Thomas. I love using different sounds to inspire me to step out of my box and spark creativity too. Also, we need to reserve "Dirty Hammond" for something... I don't know what, but something.
Haha thanks Sean! Ye, I paused for a second when I said Dirty Hammond as I kinda liked that name 🤪
I'd WAIT for the SY-300... you can be Sure they'll come up with one, and you'll be Pissed!
They already have one lol
@@mlewmisc LOL!! You're RIGHT!! (I Knew After I SED It!) WTF, U Know what I'M Say'n!!
Have just purchased the SY200. What mode option do you use on the LS-2? Cant seem to get the seperate signal into my Neural DSP plugin on my Mac via my Scarlett 2i2. Maybe I should use Mainstage to separate the inputs. I presume thats how you have yours set up on your DAW?
Hey mate, sorry I changed setups since then.
You’re more than welcome to pop on www.mcrocklin.com/discord as some people used that setup and either myself, or another member can help you set it up.
Great playing as usual, definitely a lot of possibilities for sonic inspiration in this effects pedal. I’m also curious about the signal chain. I like to create wet/dry/wet patches in my DAW by sending my “dry” signal (I use a Keeley Compressor plus on cleans and a rotation of drive pedals on some dirty, fuzzy or overdriven tones going into my audio interface). I split the signal coming in by arming 2 tracks on the DAW with the same input signal, then I apply effects to taste but always have the delay set to 100% wet on the second track. I would need to split the signal to get dry tone, can I do this with the Output and Send? I’ve always had multi effects and pedals in front of an amp so I’ve never tried Send/Return on any effect. Do both Send/Return need to be engaged for Send to deliver a signal? Actually that wouldn’t work either because I want one signal “clean”. I have a Radial Switchbone I was using to play through 2 amps in my rig so is that what you’re doing, splitting the signal so that you have a clean tone and a tone effected by the SY-200? Ugh, that’s definitely space consuming project but I love the way this sounds with a clean signal and “mix” options with particular effects never sound as good to me as wet/dry/wet with wet effects super pronounced.
Thanks so much for this exposé! How about in the snd/return loop of the NUX MG-30? Would that work?
Thanks. I’m not sure I guess it would work if it’s just a send/return.
@@McRocklin It works great. As I can move it anywhere in the chain
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15:38 Hammon-d Yellow Overdrive!
Hi. It's unclear to me what exactly you did with the line selector and how you got that sound. Would you mind expanding on how that works?
I used to chose different signal paths. Kinda like this video: czcams.com/video/w9eCrclaXJA/video.html
it was going so well until you hit D# 😂 Seriously impressive pedal and as ever ... your mind bending skills 🤘
Haha tell me about it!
I just got this… this is an easier version of the Meris Enzo but waaaay more options.
Great video!! Is this Sy-1 much easier to use right away compared to Sy-200 ? Consider to buy one of those. Thanks for great advices!!
Cheers. It’s not easier but it does have most of the sounds, so if you’re not on a stage needing to change presets etc, the SY-1 is amazing.
beautiful kiesel mate
Great demo man! I have a question. I use a 10 loop Midi looper (RJM PBC). If I plugged my guitar into the input of the SY, then had the send go to the input of my looper, run all my loops like I normally would, then have the output of the looper go back to the return, would I be able to maintain my normal guitar signal when the SY is bypassed? and then have everything run parallel when the SY is engaged? Thanks!
Hi - are you running through an AMP? Or through PA? It sounds nice and full, but wondering if going to sound that good in an AMP.
Great Playing, but would like to know if this has some traditional sounds on it like big band brass, saxophone, horns, Fret-less bass, also, like classical/nylon string guitar etc.
Nice demo. There's a sweetwater demo and the guy basically makes it sound like a stylophone for the entire demo. XD
Lol nightmare.
Great video (and awesome demo for Boss). Do you need that splitter pedal to mix the synth and distorted sounds or is it a function in sy-200?
Cheers! It can be done inside the pedal itself, during this period I was splitting the signal in a slightly different way 👍🏻
The sy-1 has tone/rate in one knob, and depth in another. Am I to understand that the sy-200 has the tone and rate broken into separate knobs that can be independently controlled? If so, along with the ability to save presets might make it worth upgrading alone. Too bad this came out after I got the sy-1, ha ha. Might still be worth it.
Cheers: I tried to play my newly unboxed SY200 thru headphones and the volume is too low as if I need more amp..
You do need an amp.
Ugh...no time stamps. Could someone let me know if/when he uses effects loop?
" that's the type of sound that i like to blend with a guitar tone"
Proceeds playing one of the greatest tone ever! No big deal. Lol
😆 Thank you! : )
i would very much like to see these pedals used in a live situation. Are they more of a gimmick or is there actual practical use?
I use them on live streams which is live so ye, totally not a gimmick.
Off topic question. Can I buy School of McRock for a friend as a guft?
Yes we can do that, best to email: info@schoolofmcrock.com and the team will make sure it’s exactly how you want it setup 👍🏻
@@McRocklin Thank you.
I’ve had an SY-1 on my pedalboard since 2020, and use it a lot, often blending it with my “regular” guitar tone, and sometimes also with my EHX Superego (synth/drone/sustainer). My board has an EHX Tri Parallel Mixer, so I can process the “regular” guitar devices, SY-1 and Superego in parallel, and combine the three “sections” at will. I have a few “go-to” SY-1 patches (synth pad and organ especially); switching between them in a live situation is a hassle, so the SY-200’s patch memories would be really handy. Is it possible to sync the tempo of the SY-200’s arp patches via TRS MIDI or tap-tempo, as I’ve got the latter set up on the SY-1 (via my Disaster Area Designs micro.clock and a custom cable)?
I believe so but I haven’t tried this I’m afraid.
Great video. Will look solidly at picking one up. Now I’m no video expert but it would be fantastic to hear this video without the sound of the (acoustic raking) electric strings. Seems to take away from the pure sound. Thanks. Great vid though.
Would it be possible to get the roland gr300 sound like part metheny had with this pedal?
If i already have the GT1000 core, is this pedal still worth having in my pedalboard?
Just got this and updated to latest firmware. Fantastic sounds but I'm finding that when the SY is in my signal chain with other pedals, stomping the footswitch on the pedal immediately before turns the SY ON (from the OFF position). This happens with any pedal I've tried (Strymon, Chase Bliss). Have you run into this problem? Checking with Boss/Roland now to see if this is a known issue.
I don’t run it that way, I use a switch before it to turn the signal on and off to the SY. Feel free to join us on www.mcrocklin.com/discord if you get stuck.
Absolutely loved the SY-200 video - great visuals and great playing. I used to have the SY-300 but I found that I couldn't really get those authentic analog synth sounds. I don't know if it's because the input signal is a guitar signal rather than a VCO or not but I just found the SY-300 sounds to be a bit amateurish, for want of a better way of putting it. I'd like to hear your thoughts on that.
Thanks. I guess with some synth pedals you have to adjust your playing to match the requirements of the pedal. I find the SY-1 and 200 to just work quite naturally with my approach to playing though.
@@McRocklin I wasn't talking about the playibility of the SY-300, I was talking about the sounds it produces. SOS magazines had this to say about it: "While the SY‑300 probably wouldn’t wow many keyboard players with its repertoire of sounds...". And I totally agree: it really doesn't sound like a traditional analog synth - it sounds cheap in comparison. Don't get me wrong - I really appreciate that Boss (and Electroharmonix) have given guitar players the abilty to create polyphonic synth sounds without the need for a hex pick-up. I just find that the sound output is not really inspiring. I had my SY-300 for about a year - in all that time I found it hard to ceate truly awesome analog synth sounds. Anyway, thanks for your reply.
@@tonyrapa-tonyrapa this was similar to my experience with the EH Mel9. I had a few tracking issues with it, and the volume of the effect was sometimes unpredictable, but overall it was the tone of the effects that left me wanting. I am very familiar with the Mellotron - having listened to the Moody Blues my entire life, so maybe I’m more critical than the average person. I feel EH had done their best - keeping the finished pedal within their technological and budgetary constraints, and the result is just so-so imo. I had similar experiences with their Lester G pedal-which changed the fundamental EQ of whatever guitar was being used in a bad way. Moving on to my MD-500, the difference in tracking and quality of sound are very much apparent. I have an “organish” setting, and it could do a passable “Green-Eyed Lady” intro organ sound. The tracking and polyphony are very very good, and the tone is rich and inspiring. Regarding the Mel9, and to a lesser extent the Lester G, I just wasn’t inspired by what I heard. Based on my love of the MD-500 - I do want to try the SY-200 and perhaps even the SY-1.
PS - I know people might suggest using a compressor to even out the response of the Mel9, but I feel I shouldn’t have to add another pedal to my chain. To me- the onus is on the pedal producer to make a product that works. If that means it costs another $50 - so be it.
Have a great day
@@tonyrapa-tonyrapa to my hears, I feel like not every tone in this pedal is created equal. For example I wouldn't touch the arpeggiator mode because it sounds too cookie cutter. If someone was playing like that in my band I'd have them get lessons.
But setting 11 (bass filter?) Sounds pretty sweet. Add in a healthy dose of reverb and delay to smooth it up more
can this do any "Harmonic Tremolo" patterns like the Boss / Roland Slicer SL-20?
Excelente
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Sounds exactly the same as the SY-1 (which is great). Interestingly, the added features, while obviously useful and convenient, don't make it compelling enough for me to upgrade. If they had enhanced the sound with something new, I might have considered it. Boss kind of disappointed me this time.
They're CONSISTENT in that Regard, Should've Known Better Myself!! (I own the Gr-55!)
@@maliwilliams7262 gr55 is still my favorite gear to mix synth pads with guitar tones.
So I've been seeing some other videos on this pedal and they can't seem to get that "Fullness" that you're getting... I have this problem with the SY-1 as well... is the SY-200 just better in this aspect? Or is it the LS2 that works the magic?
My tones and eq is probably just better 🤪 the LS2 doesn’t affect sound.
@@McRocklin ah I see.. so there is there a particular way to get that more full sound or do you think If I were to get the sy-200 it would have that super fast tracking like the examples you were showing? I appreciate the response :]
It’ll track the same, I use fab filter pro Q3 and SSL channel strips a lot, they’re good for fattening up tones. Join the www.mcrocklin.com/discord so you chat with us easier 👍🏻
I had to upgrade so it be more easy to match bpm
Wonder how this works out on an acoustic guitar? Live application?
Does the memory button scroll through all 128 presets without a back button or... can you select say only 4 or 5 presets that it scrolls through? If not that seems unusable on stage.
I haven’t tried that to be honest. I think you can download the manual for it though, it should say in there 👍🏻
@@McRocklin I have since posting, if anyone else cares: Pg10 and pg13 of the manual give you 2 different ways to address my concern.
What expression pedal model is that? I scrolled through the comments but didn’t see it asked and didn’t see it in the description… sorry if it is and I missed it!
Hey Chris, I used the BOSS EV-5
@@McRocklin thx for the reply! The EV-30 keeps coming up in my searches, even when I search EV-5 blue…
Hello, do you ,have seprate revebs and delays going from somewhere?
I do from Ableton ye.
is this the same tech as in the sy 300 just "scaled down"?
I haven’t tried the SY-300, but it’s like definitely like a hyper SY-1
If I understand it correctly, the 300 requires the synth pickup and this uses the 1/4' guitar output like the SY-1
@@obiwan7708 nope thats the sy-1000 or whatever its called haha
@@danieldemayo6209 Nice... I thought the 300 required it too. Good news that it doesn't
Saw your video and had to get one. What is your lead setting?
It changes all the time!! Hope you enjoy the sy-200!
For Sale. Boss SY-1
Not interesting ! The most interesting is a string ensemble, violin, good organ, accordéon, mellotron, harmonica, 12 strings guitar, horns, acoustic guitar
but not with this kind of not natural sounds I prefer my midi simulations
about the synths, it can do the job but does it really sound like "Jump" ? not sure !
Great video. Is this stereo? TRS maybe?
Thanks, hmmmm I think it’s mono output but not 💯 sure.
Wah before or wah after?
I'd say after wah, but it's unlikely you would want to use both at the same time so it probably won't make a difference.
my favourite sound is the one called beengo bongo baingo
McRocklin is the bees knees.
so in a real amp, do i plug it into the loops or in front of my amp?
You don’t really need an amp sim on it. So split it like me, or use the blend function. Or indeed a send/return. It’s pretty flexible 👍🏻
@@McRocklin you have to plug it in differently? Just just output?
RIP SY-1😆
I know I'm in a minority but man I wish they put a GK socket on it.
would be like a 2021 version of the GR20
those headless guitars look like war victims 🥺
Ever played one?
@@McRocklin no… 🙃 i know.. tuning stability and all.. but with locking tuners you get them strings stabilized as well.. i chose my 68 strat only because of the big beautiful head.. for me, a guitar (actually all string-type instruments) represents a body - without the head, it looks kinda dismembered to me.. 😱
It all changes when you try one. Nothing wrong with a good strat though! 👍🏻👍🏻
It doesn’t track fast. It doesn’t track at all, any more than a flanger or a chorus does. It is algorithms. Digital signal processing. Heavy maths.
After this pedal no one would buy overprized Boss EURUS guitar anymore.
We’ll see, I might get one ; )
That's a BOSS pedal.
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I gave my boyfriend a dirty Hammond last night and he wasn’t pleased.
I can’t imagine why 🤪
Evil Yngwie time: 19:05
Wow more Lady Gaga music is on the way!
But i just bought the SY1...... cruel world
Still an awesome pedal, with pretty much the same sounds! 👍🏻
@@McRocklin sure is fun, I've wanted a synth pedal for years and got the SY after your demo.
I patch my SY-1 into my GT-1 and that expands it into truly magnificent soundscapes...