How GOOD was Muk ACTUALLY? - History of Muk in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-7)
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- Muk is this week’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Muk in competitive Pokemon!
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0:00 - Intro
0:47 - RBY/Gen 1
1:30 - GSC/Gen 2
4:04 - ADV/Gen 3
5:27 - DPP/Gen 4
7:11 - BW/Gen 5
8:48 - XY/Gen 6
9:50 - SM/Gen 7
12:02 - VGC Gen 7
14:14 - Outro
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DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being Japan Nintendo Cup and VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I don't cover Smogon Singles for Gens 1 and 2: It wouldn't really be a history video if I covered those because online Smogon gen 1 meta to my knowledge wasn't actually played until late 2000s. I wanted to cover tournaments/competitive battling that was actually played during the early years of Pokemon (late 90s).
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon was the most popular format for Gens 3-5 and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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Gen 4 Muk looks like he's about to drop the most fire mixtape that the Pokemon world has ever seen.
I can never look at it the same and I thank you for that
@Eric Hayes Another young star taken over by drugs and alcohol
"Yo yo dawg imma drop this poisonous mix on yo ass"
Muk is the Lil Yachty of the Pokemon world. Dropping a mixtapes in Gen 4, and by Gen 7, he's got fake teeth, flamboyant colors, etc.
Meanwhile Guzma is crying in the corner, because this Muk is Your REAL boy!
Muk is by far my favorite Pokemon, He's consistently giving everyone he faces the middle finger and his alolan form is pretty terrifying; It's literally a rainbow pile of toxic sludge with glass/rock shards for teeth.
Sounds like Tumblr
the shards are canonically toxins that have solidified into sharp crystals, which is doubly badass
@@starduststriker8792 it also eats trash and pollution.
Absolute same! Muk faves unite 😤
AHAHAHA YAYYYYYYY WELCOME TO THE MUK CLUB
How good are YOU, actually?
...we’re here for you, man
Probably drowning under the flood of Infernape requests.
@@gengarzilla1685 it did
Thanks,I’m doing great,even in the Uber tier lol
@@SofterSideStudios So... Are you banned to AG?
Probably enjoying the thousands of dollars he makes off of all these views
also, Alolan-Muk is solidly OU in lets go meta game being one of the few dark types in the meta.
Hell yeah, clefable definitely ou for being one of the few fairies for that same reason
People play Let's Go?
There are more Dark types in smash than Let's Go Pikachu.
Then Magneton top tier since its one of the only steel types
Mecha Yoshi it has so many weaknesses that even having the steel typing doesn’t save it from being stupidly bad
11:52 “And while it doesn’t OHKO them,” *he says while ohkoing celebi
Daniel Manzor he meant nihelego and the others, not celebi
Oh whoops
How GOOD Was Shedinja ACTUALLY?
I will Not give up until you trashtalk about the Balanced Hackmons' fallen prince
Join the club
I've been trying to make him cover Lugia for months
Omg yes
Finally, another man/woman of culture in this godforsaken comment section.
UP ALTAS AVETURAS
was about to comment this but you beat me to it
“When in doubt it could explode”
Sounds like me
I had great fun with Muk back in the day (mostly gen 6, when I discovered Showdown was a thing). People in UU just didn't seem to expect it at all, and Assault Vest + Poison Touch with stuff like Shadow Sneak, Ice Punch etc caught people unawares. Much preferred it to Weezing.
The following Pokémon have already been analyzed:
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Ampharos
Arcanine
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Charizard
Clefable
Cloyster
Donphan
Dragonite
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Dunsparce
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Entei
Espeon
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Flareon
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Golbat/Crobat
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Jolteon
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Lapras
Ledian
Lucario
Machamp
Magmar/Magmortar
Magneton/Magnezone
Marowak
Meganium
Metagross
Mew
Mewtwo
Milotic
Misdreavus/Mismagius
Moltres
Muk
Nidoking
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Onix/Steelix
Persian
Pidgeot
Pikachu
Poliwrath
Porygon/Porygon2
Porygon-Z
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Shuckle
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Slowbro
Smeargle
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Snorlax
Starmie
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Tauros
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Togetic/Togekiss
Typhlosion
Tyranitar
Umbreon
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Either Pokémon who haven’t had an episode or a reanalysis. So all Pokemon?
if you wanna be correct Unkown 0ne isn't Canon
no slaking? :
You forgot unown.
MakoTsunami
not all heroes wear capes
How GOOD was -HORRIFYING SCREAMING NOISES- Victreebel ACTUALLY?
Leo Burnett And 4kids are the devil
Shmurda's legacy lives on...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I get none of these references
@@TheGirugamesh1000 Tget ate referring to victri in the anime who had a very loud an terrifying scream.
What a positive ending. Alolan forms are great.
Every regular Muk cries "What about me?"
Some...i like most of them, but most of them didnt improve upon the original by much.
@Matt Ellis so greninja is bad?
Matt Ellis are you actually being a genwunner troll on an old video? lol ok then
@Matt Ellis You dont like gen 4?
Now I know youre lying.
alolan muk was one of my favourite mons to use in gen 7. Assault vest, knock off, pursuit and that typing was just so handy
How Good was Shedinja Actually? I won't give up!
Yes I needs this
Agreed
@Sakura Ayumi
But how good was Ninjago actually???
Silvermyr well uhhhh there you go
How good was FALSE SWIPE GAMING ACTUALLY in competitive scenes hmmm?
I got an idea I woukd like to get feedback from you. As your aware you have had different music and background colour than usual and it is nice to see a new idea on the Mismagius video, the same shade that was used on the icon image and I got thinking since you work a fair amount on the icon images why not use the same colour scheme on the background of that pokémons video instead of the boring blue? Another idea to make things more characteristic is with including their roar when you see their sprite every now and then. I hope this helps you with more ideas for an aesthetic approach.
Btw the trick or treat joke on that said video was great wordplay ideal to finish Missy off with!
They didn't exist until gen 6 and they don't do new pokémon!
@@bvd_vlvd what didn't?
@@Sandromatic the channel
It's amazing that just one new typing was able to take Muk from ZU to UU
How good was the Poison type in general? It seems like they’ve had an up and down run
Before Gen 6, couldn't it only hit 1 type super effectively (Grass)?
ye
Bad in Gen 1 at least
Got buffed in Gen 6 and Beyond
- New Fairies Types benefit them they resist Fairy and Poison is super effective against them
- New awesome Poison types like Eternatus, Toxapex, Mega-Venusaur, Alolan-Muk himself, Naganadel.
- Remove Toxic Spikes
Either top tier (Scolipede/Gengar) or bottom tier (Skuntank/Swalot). Not much inbetween
@@smokey3504 Drapion has sort of been in the middle, UU Gen 4 then RU from Gen 5 onwards.
muk spelled backwards is snake
Wrong, it's actually potato.
@@determineddaaf3 but then you spell potato backwards and you get Arbok it comes full circle
How good was Ludicolo actually?
Muk is one of those Pokemon along with it's Alolan Form that needs a realiable recovery Move not just Leftovers.
It really has everything else at this point
Considering that it doesn't even have a physical form and is just a sentient pile of sludge, it would make sense for Muk to have something like recover because it can just put itself back together
Or something like regenerator
Damn, Muk is a tanky boy. If he had any other typing, or a secondary type like his Alohan brethren, I'm sure he'd be way better. He's got the stats (where it counts), the moves, and the coverage. Don't worry buddy, I still love you and you're always gonna be my off tank with superb coverage
I wish muk just got the secondary dark type or evo that made him like his alolan muk counterpart
How good was the king of gen V...I mean politoed, we already did ninetales and tyranitar so we need to do the rain setter of gen V
There are not enough generations to talk about
It’s a gen 2 Pokémon
Oh my mistake. Ehm...it was so irrilevant till gen 5 that i forgot it existed
I mean I can’t be annoyed because I thought that milotic was a gen IV mon
@@tordellinodellacoopdimassa7996 hmm... *VOLCARONA*
How good was shedinja actually tho?
How about a where are they now episode? Do a lightning round of meta relevant pokemon who didn't get gen 7 coverage?
4:50 Lol Explosion is listed twice.
How good was Shedinja ACTUALLY?
@Lukas Martinez ye
Really bad sometimes, unkillable in some situations..
Everyone seems to forget about this Pokémon, you basically did his counterpart Pokémon Heracross, so how good was Pinsir actually?
Gen 1 muk just wanted a hi-5,poor sludge 🅱️oi
I have waited for so long! Thank you!
How good was Ninjask/Shedinja Actually?
I wont stop AGGRON, I wanna see rhydons steel cousin
MrClown2121 love it but I’m still trying for golem
Did both
@@AlphaladZXA ...
@@jonahbrown5669 what? Just letting them know both happened already...
@@AlphaladZXA They asked that 7 months ago lol
OMG yes thank you! Been waiting for this guy a long time ^^ Okay Arbok next hehe.
I love how grimer dabs with Dawn on summer school
8:23 gunk shot isn’t a contact move, so it doesn’t get an increased poison chance from poison touch. Other than that great vid as always!
How GOOD was Farfetch'd ACTUALLY?
A joke
How good was Masquerain actually? Its like Farfetchd a bad but interesting Pokemon.
@@Sunaki1000 Masquerain since gen5 isn't that awfull
@@luisfreitas3416 right... Speedplus in rain and Quiverdance...
@@Sunaki1000 Quiver Dance,Baton Pass,Sticky Web,+20 on both speed and special attack,good offensive coverage. Its dumb to even consider masquerain farfetchd level
Wow its either shedinja or infernape in this comments section!
I vote that for the end of the year, you do a lightning round of all the earlier Pokemon that you didn't do a Gen 7 analysis for in their respective videos.
How good was Aggron actually?
How GOOD was ARBOK actually?
Lets warp up with Team Rocket's gen 1 pokemon GODDAMMIT
Also Gen 1 pure Poison Type Evolutions
You misspelled wrap, the key word relating to arbok.
What then, How GOOD was MEOWTH actually?
How good was Infernape actually?
Venomoth
It wasn't
It was insane in DPP and still very good. Very versatile and threatning in UU.
I'm glad to have used an alolan muk in my ultra sun team, he is so awesome!
Now we have to do Arbok
How GOOD was Arbok ACTUALLY? next to finish off the trinity of Gen 1 Mono Poison Types
Hey FSG, I was wondering if we would ever get a look at the Ubers tier over the generations? I'd love to see it!
Congrats on 200k!
How GOOD was Lugia ACTUALLY? PLS!
It was amazeballs
Glad to know I'm not the only one who's hyped for a Lugia video
I misread that as Luigi
@@ninjapotatolorf6237 - HOW GOOD WAS LUIGI ACTUALLY? That's actually pretty relevant. I approve
How GOOD was Miltank ACTUALLY? #DairyTroupe
3:34 Foreshadowing??
Orchid Braid Rollout
You made my day, thanks
That PU joke was solid
How good was Scyther ACTUALLY?
Already done
Ya but only with scizor not with Scyther.
He didn't cover Scyther after gen 2 because Scizor was superior.
Just found your channel, your intro looks incredible
Alolan Muk and Exeggutor were two Pokemon I didn't think I would be interested in but when I tried them out they were really good and became the carries of my team.
How GOOD was BUTTERFREE ACTUALLY?!?!?!!?
One of my favorite Pokemon.
Just ask The Garbodors.
Muk is easily my favorite Alolan form Pokemon and it makes me so glad that he managed to separate himself from his vanilla counterpart
I know it's been around for a minute, but DAMN do I really dig the new intro
congrats on 200k
You Overlooked Aloan Muk's Power of Alchemy Set in Doubles. Paired with Shedninja and its Hard to kill.
Ice Wonder Guard is specifically included in the list of abilities Power of Alchemy cannot copy, along with Receiver, Power of Alchemy, Trace, Forecast, Flower Gift, Multitype, Illusion, Zen Mode, Imposter, Stance Change, Power Construct, Schooling, Comatose, Shields Down, Disguise, RKS System, and Battle Bond.
What does Power of Alchemy do?
It only works in doubles if the companion Pokémon faints the one with PoA copies it’s ability, for example if your Pure Power Azumarill faints now your Alolan Muk has its ability.
How Good Was Bellsprout Actually?
Good video as always. Since it's been a while since the kanto royality showed itself in this series, maybe do Nidoqueen next?
Loving that new intro
Let's shake things up!
*How good was Mawile ACTUALLY?*
Alternative title how good was mega evolution actually?
How good was ninjask and shedinja??
Do It!!!!!!!
Let's be honest...
Shedinja, as cool as its unique ability is, is also its biggest weakness. Even then, its stats aside from Attack, are dreadful. I've tried to make Shedinja work but it just doesnt. Too many weaknesses that can kill it in one hit making it easily exploitable. Sorry but Shedinja, as cool as he is, is trash in competitive.
@@SilverFang2789 that's the point. It's a gimmick mon. I want to know if someone actually made it work.
Id like to say rhe only way you'd make shedinja work is my making it GST/DRK but then I remember that Fairy types are a thing now.
Arbok lets get a video of the other poison in the trio
That intro still looking slick af
Do Shedinja!
"When in doubt it can explode"
Lol
Gen 3 Muk loved explosion so much that it needed it listed twice in its popular moves!
I ran with alolan muk and it just comes in so clutch with that poison touch ability. Such a great pokemon
Same with seismatoad. If u dont kill Grass types with Poison Jab at least u go down with them poisoned
Muk should learn the move Body Slam by level.
I love this video so much
This is one of the first videos with actually talk about muk
Gotta finish the gen 1 staples, how good was golem actually!?
I liked using Muk back in Pokemon X. It was very unexpected and very few people knew how to actually counter it. I miss my competitive team from X....
Howd u get it?
I love Muk and Its alolan form was great in moon! Glad to hear it's had some usage in the meta. Alight now let's have some Infernape
Muk is so cool c: thanks for the well made video.
how good was golem! PU FOREVER I WILL NOT STOP
How GOOD Was False Swipe Gaming ACTUALLY?
YES FINALLY THANK YOU
It has arrived!!
How good was Empoleon ACTUALLY? We need to do the best penguin!
How GOOD was Rotom ACTUALLY? I really want to see the diffrent forms and how they shined in there respective types
Something about poison touch as a ability is so cool lmao
How good was infernape actually?
IVE POSTED THIS EVERY WEEK FOR THE PAST 6 MONTHS!
Thats a big yes
@@flamethong2737 :)
I've been posting mine for over a year.
@@TobeyFairre7861 were finally getting the man himself
Should we do whishcash for the blue joke? Or maybe warlord. Maybe Gastrodon!
How Good Was Nidoqueen actually?
How GOOD was Shedinja ACTUALLY?
(NOW I'm not alone in this...)
Interesting, I used to run a stockpile set with Muk along with poison touch.
"Muk... as we all know has a really good form, the backwards form of Muk."
-Vinesauce 2019
How GOOD was Infernape ACTUALLY?
How good is Forretress ACTUALLY? Keep up the great vids! :)
How is there not an aggron video yet?!
In gen 6 I had a muk with poison touch that ran attract, minimize, shadow sneak and curse. The rage quitters were phenomenal lol.
This is my favorite pokemon!!!
Also how good was Electrode.
Sandslash, go ! Go ! Sandslash, go ! Go !
My episode finally came out! All hail Muk! I can die happy now.
OOOOOOOHHHH do a video on Volcarona!!! My favorite bug pokemon
How GOOD was Luxray ACTUALLY
I like to play Muk using:
(Poison touch ability)
- Fire Punch/Ice Punch (For coverage)
-Gunk Shot/Poison Jab/Crunch (Only Alola Muk) (For Stab)
-Shadow Sneak (priority )
-Curse/Power Up Punch (For attack boost)
Great video
But how about Garbodor next?
It may not be so usual, but can you do an update on Arcanine's usage on competitive, please? He is my favorite Pokémon and last time it appeared ultra sun and ultra moon (not even sun and moon) were being analised, and I just noted he shows up a lot in doubles.
Man I thing I am evil I used Muk with power up punch minimize and recover against the boiz and trust me it was horrifingly OP
Muk was one of my least favorite Pokémons, but Alolan Muk just jumped from bottom to my top 10. I really love Alolan Muk.
Um, explain?
MUK IS MORE COOL