How GOOD was Kangaskhan ACTUALLY? - History of Kangaskhan in Competitive Pokemon (Gens 1-7)
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- Kangaskhan! The Parent Pokemon! The giant mother Kangaroo Pokemon looks like it packs quite a lot of power, especially when trying to protect its young one. Is that power enough to compete? Join False Swipe Gaming in this brief overview of Kangaskhan in competitive Pokemon!
List of Notable Kangaskhan VGC Placements we found:
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ALSO, we missed a notable 2018 placement for Mega Kang. So here is a link to that person’s article: trainertower.com/big-mama-top... Congrats to Andrew Davis for placing Top 8 at Roanoke Regionals
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0:00 - Intro
0:46 - RBY/Gen 1
2:52 - GSC/Gen 2
7:09 - ADV/Gen 3
8:43 - DPP/Gen 4
10:30 - BW/Gen 5
11:41 - XY/Gen 6
12:38 - Gen 6 VGC
16:50 - SM/Gen 7
17:40 - Gen 7 VGC
18:38 - Outro
Directed by Kellen
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Written By
Kevin aka BKC
Edited and Sound Designed by
Ryan Gonzales
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Game Capture Artst:
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FULL RESEARCH SOURCES HERE:
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DISCLAIMERS ON FORMATS COVERED:
Notice I said POPULAR formats, meaning a format where there is a significant amount of people who compete in it for tournaments and so on and so forth. Now Popular does not mean official even though two of the formats I will be covering were official formats being VGC, but it is an indicator of what a good portion of competitive players thought was “optimal” at the time. Also sometimes the Pokemon Battle Historia doesn't provide enough information to talk about certain Pokemon so I add Smogon analysis to make sense of it. This is pretty rare though.
To the people asking why I cover Smogon at all for singles: To my knowledge, Smogon is the most singles popular format and held a number of tournaments throughout the years. As for Gen 6, I am not covering Battle Spot Singles because there is more information and explanations about sets being used relative to their own meta on Smogon. In other words, there are few written analyses about Battle Spot Pokemon besides the Top tiers and I would like to avoid theorycrafting because it may have a hint of bias (though I theorycraft if I REALLY couldn't find information on a certain Pokemon). The keyword here is explanations. Though I did find statistics of most Pokemon used and most moves used, there wasn't really any explanations on why. Also the few Pokemon I did find analysis of for Top Tier Battle Spot Singles had very similar move sets to the Smogon OU sets anyway.
For the record, I do not care what rules or formats people play their battles by nor am I saying these formats are the only formats that should be played. The way you play Pokemon is between you and your opponent and I will not fault you for using evasion or whatever, I just like examining popular tournament formats.
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5:00 "Kanga can lower it's speed EVs to OUT-SLOW Steelix..."
Welcome to competitive pokémon
Translation: "Welcome to the headache"
Explain me, please.
@@EnriiqueMurguia
In Gen 2, if both Pokemon use roar, the slower one's roar works, but Kanga is faster than Steelix, so theoratically, Steelix's roar would work, but with the combination of Curse lowering its Speed and the ability to lower the Speed EVs on Kanga, it can become slower than Steelix so that its Roar would work and not Steelix's.
@@chrisf.9595 :O
@ARTEM DORDZHIEV if by that you mean "horribly broken" yes, it was. Just like Gen 1, two generations chock-full of devastating glitches, awful balance and stalling.
Every mega: grows bigger meaner stronger fiercer looking
Mega Kanga: *B A B Y O U T*
Baba
Less goo
Sad Dragapult noises
Altaria becomes furrier
Yeah lol🤣
And mega Slowbro now it's time to wear shellder as a costume🤣
Kangaskhan: It took until generation 6 but we're finally usable! We even managed to get into VGC! I'm so glad my child and I were able to make it and I can't wait to see what the next generation brings us-
Gen 8: *V I B E C H E C K*
It was always good what are you talking about
Kangaskhan is in sword and shield and it’s PUBL
@@Allstaar1117 was it OU/Ubers good?
@@Allstaar1117 no mega evolution in gen 8
@@LordTyph Yes, Mega Mom was banned from normal play at least at one point.
Honestly though, parental bond was insane. It was like having technician on every move, PLUS Serene Grace, PLUS it makes every move a focus sash breaker, and finally it turns power up punch into a free swords dance.
Don't forget how it made Seismic Toss into the most spammable move ever as every non Ghost type was hit with a flat 200 damage, yeah okay it can't OHKO anything, but it means that when the Kangashkan user knows you're going to switch out and you have several different options to go to, they don't need to predict and can just safely click Seismic Toss, because the majority of mons have between 300-400 HP, that means it can 2HKO most things without having to predict or care about resists.
That alone was super bonkers
15:00 ok mega kangaskhan is cool and all but can we all just acknowledge that every person in top 8 at worlds had a Landourous Therian?
"Appreciate" i don't think that's the right word
That is chalk for you
I just think it's BS how only the 8th Place person was smart enough to use Hydreigon
and 6 of the top 8 has heatran
Can't we just acknowledge that EVERYONE in the top 8 had fucking Lando T?
*How GOOD was Flygon ACTUALLY?*
*I WILL NEVER GIVE UP*
I've Said it before and ill say it again:
*"GIVE UP"*
That ones gonna be a depressing story of never being good enough, I'd rather not
he would talk about how its completely outclassed and the only viable set is scarfed sets. Thats what the video would be about
Did he delete the video. I swear I just saw it earlier today
well then..guess you shouldn't of given up
Mega kangaskahn: yes yes yes let me just deal 70 damage while boosting my attack by 2 stages oh so fair also that noice double flinching Chance not broken at all no no no
"Hmmm yes today I will use my 70 base power stab +2 priority move that has a 100% flinch chance"
SqueezeBakon Hmm yes, I will deal 200 confirmed damage with no drawback whatsoever.
Power up punch on Mega kang is a damaging swords dance, and even without s toss it’s still amazing
@@laperers. yeah we know this lol that's why it's in ubers
@@SqueezeBakon *+3
Such a clean slate Pokémon.
Knows what it does, knows what it doesn‘t.
And when it megas, it‘s broken. Sounds a bit like Mawile.
*How GOOD was Piloswine/Mamoswine ACTUALLY?*
I WILL NEVER GIVE UP
Let's do it!
Steven M Attrell LES GO
Heck yeah!
How good was victreebel
Yas
How good was Blue eyes white dragon actually?
Samuel S it is OP
uhhhh wrong franchise....
Sounds like someone wants to know about Reshiram.
Brandon Yuschock r/im14andthisiswooosh
@@byuschock06 he is joking mr edgy reddit man
"Competitive Pokemon is fun because of the countless matchups that can be created with so many team varieties!"
Also competitive Pokemon: 14:57
l a n d o r u s t
A M O O N G U S
That guy using Entei instead of Heatran is my hero.
h e a t r a n
@@hppvitor the goat
12:38 I see what you did there, "Kangaskhan really began to shine", and there was a shiny Kangaskhan, I don't know if that was intentional, but I hope it was.
propably was
Arbok, muk and weezing series come on guys we can do it.
Shofar Olaguez really only interested in Weezing
Whirligig I am interested in that and Muk.
You want a video on the lame and forgettable poison types of Gen I?
they suck and have always sucked. It would be a boring video
Weezing and alolan muk are decent
The following Pokémon have already been analyzed:
Aerodactyl
Alakazam
Ampharos
Arcanine
Articuno
Azumarill
Blastoise
Blaziken
Breloom
Chansey/Blissey
Charizard
Clefable
Cloyster
Donphan
Dragonite
Dunsparce
Espeon
Exeggutor
Feraligatr
Flareon
Garchomp
Gardevoir
Gengar
Gligar/Gliscor
Golbat/Crobat
Gyarados
Heracross
Houndoom
Jolteon
Jumpluff
Kangaskhan
Lapras
Lucario
Machamp
Magneton/Magnezone
Meganium
Metagross
Mew
Mewtwo
Moltres
Nidoking
Onix/Steelix
Pikachu
Poliwrath
Porygon/Porygon2
Porygon-Z
Quagsire
Raichu
Rhydon/Rhyperior
Salamence
Sceptile
Scizor
Seadra/Kingdra
Shuckle
Skarmory
Slowbro
Smeargle
Sneasel/Weavile
Snorlax
Starmie
Swampert
Tauros
Tentacruel
Togetic/Togekiss
Typhlosion
Tyranitar
Umbreon
Unown ( czcams.com/video/qH659IHtjvU/video.html )
Vaporeon
Venusaur
Wigglytuff
Wobbuffet
Zapdos
Please vote on Pokémon that are NOT seen on this list for FalseSwipeGaming’s next analytic video.
ShinyAlakazamPlays
I'm currently voting for Piloswine/Mamoswine
ShinyAlakazamPlays u must have a lot of spare time lol
Niall Cunningham I keep a list
never knew about Unown
why did he put it on private?
Jernej Fric dunno
10:01 Kangaskhan is the WORST parent ever, just drops its baby
It just drops the baby
A least she didn't abandon her kid
Cough cough all the protagonists except May and Brendan's dad
Can we just appreciate how creative the animation is ?
Dragapult : Amateur!
*proceed to yeet his children*
@@microwave8931 Counterpoint: Your dad in R/S/E/OR/AS is never actually home. Like at all. They don't even live in the same town as you.
I love that the mega is just for the baby and the mother is unchanged.
How GOOD was Milotic ACTUALLY?
FIshsquad we must unite and bring forth the video we have desired for so long
Icebat but everyone wants THEIR comment in his video. This comments section is pure cancer.
#fishsquad
+Diamond.cr00ks that's the problem here. People don't discuss the pokemon covered in the video, they all just spam the pokemon they want next.
#fishsquad
We'll have our Mermaid Goddess to fame and Glory!
How GOOD was Rayquaza Actually???
_DO NOT DARE TO STEAL_ *Rayquazas* Spotlight!
ZombieMence Yeah, i stand with you
Yessss
I love gen 3
*Team Rayquaza!!!!!*
ZombieMence lets be honest, we all know it was great. Mega rayquaza is a monster
Vgc : excuse me mam kids aren't allowed
*Khangaskhan mega evolves*
Kangakid:now?
Vgc: sorry mam you may proceed
12 months of patreons!
September - Tyranitar
October - Smeargle
November - Seadra/Kingdra
December - Sneasel/Weavile
January - Cloyster
February - Breloom
March - Feraligatr
April - Dunsparce
May - Metagross
June - Wobbuffet
July - Jumpluff
August - Kangaskhan
I love how some of these fit with thier respective months.
2nd September - Suicune
2nd October - Gallade
2nd November - Pidgeot
2nd December: Ledian
Hmm
@@thevenomoth3455
2nd January: Beedrill
2nd February: Infernape
2nd March: Mawile
2nd April: Scyther
2nd May: *_COMING SOON_*
Yes i got tyranitar
Back at it again with the 'How GOOD was Jirachi ACTUALLY?' request!
Finches
How GOOD was Piloswine/Mamoswine ACTUALLY?
Okay, but I still have one question: Why tf does it look like Kangaskhan is choking itself to death when it faints?
it doesn't like losing lol
It would rather die by its own hands than accept defeat
Literally one of the most forgotten and overlooked Pokemon in the entire mega until it got a buff that made it to the best Pokemon in the entire VGC
I mean so many Normal Types are straight up better than it ( Snorlax, Blissey, Tauros, Staraptor, Diggersby etc)
How BEAUTIFUL was Milotic ACTUALLY?
How GOOD was Ditto ACTUALLY?
Supersonic1014 Nice stream you got there, mind if I show up on it????
yes i been saying since how good was mewtwo
Didn't he do ditto already
Bad until it got Imposter, which made it slightly less bad but still bad.
Supersonic1014 that's a short video
How GOOD was Ursaring ACTUALLY? I used to wreck everything in Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness with his raw power in combination with the move return.
Pichu Flash base 130 attack + guts + swords dance. Of course you wrecked everything
Well... Back in Gen 2/3 it was Borderline thanks to it's power
14:59 All of the Top 8 players have landorus-T..'How good was landorus actually' will surely be a movie...
How GOOD was Pinsir ACUTALLY?
You did Heracross do my man some justice :D
IM TRYING TO GET PINSIR TOO
Nicholas Bellinger That's a funny way of spelling Mega Pinsir.
How good was PINSIR actually!? Come on, you’ve done heracross and scizor. Let’s complete the trio.
When child is in her pouch: *Unfortunately...*
When child is outside: absolutely broken
All your videos are really detailed with good commentary! Keep up the great work!! 🙌🏽
How GOOD was Electabuzz/Electivire ACTUALLY? Posting every week till it happens haha.
Tyler S same I’ve been asking for months
*How GOOD was flygon ACTUALLY*
I WILL NEVER GIVE UP
Mama kanga: Gets baby out of pouch
Every single VGC players: It's free real estate
You have no idea how much pain I felt when I saw landorous on all top 8 teams in 2015
Lol don’t use Lando if you hate him
It was a dark and depressing time.
@@ShibuNub3305 Luckily I was not playing vgc in that era. I am glad i did not suffer
How good was Tangela/Tangrowth actually? Please man! It’s been so long...
yeah i want to see that too.
How good was Flygon actually
Trash
Yep
Better than you
I use a mega kanga with scrappy as my lead for singles in gen 7, running fake out, focus energy, dizzy punch, and shadow claw. The bulk paired with the crits and confusion end up doing very well for me.
Been watching for over a year now and I've loved every video! Keep it up!
How Good was *Milotic* Actually
*I will never give it up*
FISH SQUAD UNITE
YES!
yes
How good was Golem ACTUALLY?
I wont give up, like at all.
L! Lyn It's ok. Nothing serious
L! Lyn no one likes golem.
Think of Tauros' fall from grace, but went straight to NU from gen 2 onwards.
Diamond.Cr00ks actually I like golem
L! Lyn Golem FTW
This is a really long video, you really went all out! Thanks as always for these weekly videos, great entertainment to me haha
this series is so well done keep em coming
How good was Milotic *ACTUALLY*
#fishsquad
How GOOD was Misreavus and later Mismagius ACTUALLY?
Let's be real here. We are all sitting here waiting to see what happenes in gen 6. That's what we're here for.
At this point i think im just watching to hear him pronounce "s" words.
Still a fan and love these vids
We need Milotic!!!!
#fishsquad
Yes!!
After taking a World History class, I can’t stop hearing “Genghis Khan” while watching this video
thebahooplamaster I only hear Kangaskhan whenever I look into the history of Genghis Khan
I cannot get stupid puns out of my head with that now, thank you very much. XD
Even tho it's actually pronounced as "Jen-gus"
Now I will always name my Kangaskhans Genghis because of you
@@Abigdummy4life
NOBODY ASKED!
Finally! I've been requesting this for months!
15:07 😂 holy crap everybody had Landorus. I can't wait for that video.
That's going to be a 2 hour video
Maybe a 3/4 part video "how good was landorus in gen 5/6/7 actually?"
Do Scizors underrated brother Scyther.
Stealthy Noctowl I think they already did that in the same video.
I wish but he said he would do Scyther in a future video which he hasn't done yet.
Stealthy Noctowl he probably never will either I think, being realistic here
Fine, fine-I get it, you dont want to do Shedinja.... How bout....how GOOD was Beedrill ACTUALLY? Mega Beedrill for the win!
prediction for how that video might go: REALLY bad until gen 6, where it was kinda average because it was mandatory to have protect on it, and then pretty good in gen 7 because of the changes to its speed.
I love how baby Kanga jumps on the mom's head when it uses hyper beam
Kangaskhan's back BOYS!
The time is nigh #fishsquad! How ENCHANTING is MILOTIC!?!?!?
How GOOD was Dugtrio ACTUALLY?
You gave me insight on competitive Pokemon that I hadn't before, thanks so much. A good idea might be making videos covering the World Championship? I'm sure your commentary style will attract interest to the event.
Smogon: "No, you can't make a pokemon move up through multiple tiers in one generation"
Mega-Kangaskhan: "Observe"
Politoed in gen 5 am I a joke to you
@@ultimapower6950 gastrodon too
Crawdaunt: “Observe”
How GOOD was Marowak actually?
I think the nerf to Parental bond is definitely enough for Mega Kangaskhan to at least be tested in OU rather than quickband, as it really struggles in Ubers and Power-Up Punch is honestly not that big of a deal when it becomes tricky to add more than one coverage move thanks to always running Fake Out, Return, Power-Up-Punch and sometimes Sucker Punch. If anything, its very predictable for a normal type and that makes it counterable.
Yeah it should be in OU now, it’s not that broken for gen 7 standards
Yeah. I also think ageislash should be bumped down
Just because his struggles in Ubers doesn't mean it can be used in OU
@@TheNadroj10yes it is broken even buy gen 7 standards
@@residentfacehead3465 nope it's not only too strong it's really obnoxious
It’s also Ash Pikachu’s adopted mom in the anime. It was such a sad but wholesome episode.
How good was Wheezing actually.
s m o k e y b a e
lol I'm wheezing
Matthew Hecht It’s weezing
Matthew Hecht YES PLZ
PLEASE!!! Asking that for so long!!!
How good was milotic actually
How GOOD was Milotic ACTUALLY?!?
amazing episode kellen
Buntd’ is A N G E R Y about not having a how *_G O D L I K E_* is beedrill actually
Aye! GameGrump
Good choice.
How GOOD was Milotic ACTUALLY?
Very informative!
I will never EVER need to know this information but god this is so interesting I just have to subscribe
How good was PIDGEOT actually. Also it’s nice that your talking about how the mon was in its own tier, instead of how it was in tiers higher up.
How GOOD was Lord Helix Omanyte and Omastar ACTUALLY? Come On Guys, we need to see LORD HELIX. Like so he can see! I WILL NOT GIVE UP.
not gonna lie, omastar can be pretty great actually
*Oddish used Vine Whip*
*Omastar fainted*
TheAsianGamer I actually use Omastar in modern OU. He catches so many people off-guard and he's surprisingly useful.
Lmao your so quirky,original and funny.
Just stop.
This meme ended years ago.
Go talk about your normie shit somewhere else.
Praise the Helix
Thanks for going back to Gen 1! Can you do Dugtrio Next? People been asking about duggy for a while now
Can you do Cherrim next week after tomorrow’s video? I would especially appreciate it as it is my favourite fully evolved Pokémon.
Flygon, Milotic, Dugtrio, Golem. These have been asked for by so many for so long lol.
Yeah, i ask for flygon since my first episode.
But seriously, I want videos on all of these too.
fair enough. They have all history behind them.
Puppet are you stupid or can’t you read dates?
Ahh... I remember that one month during the beginning of XY where mega kangaskhan was in OU. So much fun... If you used a mega kangaskhan. If you didn't...well good luck with that.
"Don't talk to me or my son ever again" the mega evolution
You should do Persian next!
How good was Ninetales actually???
Darren LaChance nu up until gen 5 drought
And when drought got banned Ninetales sits in PU being a worse Pyroar
The fact that lando had 100% usage in 2015 is insane..
Hey a suggestion?
What about adding some sort of indicator to what gen you're currently discussing. For those that want to skip forward/back to certain sections, it'll be eaiser if they had that as a guide.
How GOOD was Flygon ACTUALLY???
Never gonna give up
Black Ice Gaming No Muk Sucks that answers your question
Non Alolan Form Muk... Just normal Muk
How GOOD was GOLEM ACTUALLY? lets goooooooo!!!!!!!
I WILL NEVER GIVE UP
Good job with the audio splicing and levels this time around.
Couple comments; sometimes you cut the audio clips so close to one another that it becomes obvious, and at 17:39 it's cut so late that parts of another sentence is audible.
Anyway, can we see lugia next time maybe? :o
I'd like to see you do another type episode like you did for ice :)
How GOOD was Kabutops ACTUALLY?
HOW GOOD WAS POLITOED ACTUALLY???
kinda meh, except in gen 5, and then meh again in gen 6 and 7
I appreciate your content
I'm taking too long a shot here.
Tsareena!
Bryan Chavez That would be a too recent pokemon so there would be barely any evidence to evaluate it effectively. Gen 4 would probably be the latest Gen that he would do. But I loooove Tsaareena.
Jasmin Meredith
True. I just think she's dope. It wouldn't even be 5 min.
How *GOOD* were *MISDREAVUS* and *MISMAGIUS* Actually?
How GOOD was Electabuzz/Electivire ACTUALLY?
How GOOD was Hazeing... I mean Weezing ACTUALLY?
How good was milotic actually?
How good was Marowak actually?
How GOOD was Suicune ACTUALLY?
My favorite thing to wake up to on Sunday
How good was *Milotic*
Top 8 VGC 2015 Worlds be like:
Mega Kangaskhan Thunderus Landorus T Cresselia Heatran Aegislash Amoonguss having a party
with some guests like tyranitar
How good was Absol ACTUALLY?