I Filed For Bankruptcy After Lularoe And Now Work 2 Jobs
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- Jill Domme (@jilliandommejewels) was one of 80,000 retailers who joined LuLaRoe. Consumed by early success, she is now paying off $39,000 in debt by driving GrubHub as her second job.
LuLaRoe, a multi-billion dollar company that skyrocketed to success by attracting an army of women to sell their colorful patterned clothes is now facing numerous lawsuits calling the company a “pyramid scheme.”
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Why I Left LuLaRoe and Started Driving For GrubHub - Zábava
"Pay your bills first, and your pockets last" - My mom
Pozorrogo wise mom
I am pounding this into my daughters head!
Both brilliant and so obvious we should all be doing it!
Stupid...
Your mom is a smart lady
I don’t get these women, how can you make $27k+ a month and not have a safety nest?! Omg... I would’ve paid off my car and bought a home.
It’s 27k gross sales. So probably half of that net. And then these “consultants” have to “reinvest” in the company and buy more inventory. And of course pay taxes but she didn’t do that lol. But these MLM people like to flash big numbers but what they actually take home is significantly less.
Safety nest 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I believe they have another longer video about this company and they encouraged them to look a certain way and to invest money back into company. Then the company had shit quality with their clothes so a lot of them ended up losing money because they had tons of clothes they couldn't sell.
A lot of these girls are brainwashed to “live their best life” So more people would join
I think it also has to do with the culture of lularoe... they’re taught to push sales on others, but they also get sales pushed on themselves... lularoe intentionally normalizes spending your entire pay check on “wants”
I felt bad for her until I found out she's now selling for two more MLMs. Come on now.
These ppl can’t get enough then they are addicted to the lifestyle of group think and belonging so they tend to just go right back to another MLM
That is crazy! This girl needs serious therapy.
Yup, she apparently never felt bad for the people she helped to exploit, aka her downline, until it was her own turn. Ugh.
She's now selling an mlm/pyramid scheme jewelry.
@@doncagape5409 Woah what!
"Addicted to shopping." "Second bankruptcy." Honestly, it sounds like Lularoe was not her only problem. It was just gasoline on an already existing fire.
39k TAX debt, seems she didnt pay taxes when she earned 15k+ a month. If that is the case then fuck her, no empathy from me. There is nothing worse then someone who stops paying taxes after you get a well paying job, and then crying that you are in debt once it goes down.
@@newdarkneoss3985 Yeah, she couldn't have been so dumb not to pay taxes. Even unemployment is taxed!
MLMs typically prey on women in bad financial situations, in college / stay at home moms, and 99.7% never see any kind of profit.
@@HoneyD109 I know of so many better options out there. People need to work online and from home more than ever these days.
lullaroe dose that to you they company forces you to spend and gets u addicted
Hideous clothes. I don’t know how they sell so much.
Rosy Javier army wives have a hideous fashion taste
They don't. Most of the purchases are from actual sellers. Most sellers end up with tonnes of ugly inventory they can't get rid of and often it gets sold onto other sellers when they go out of business.
Heather Cameron exactly! Lularoe could give a rats ass if you sell stuff on to your customers, Lularoe already got your money 💰 the LLR representative (use term loosely here) is Lularoes target market.
@@woodsjaelyn4225 🤣🤣🤣I can verify that for sure
Makes me suspect wether that money was made thru sales or recruiting
They literally look like clown clothes
JasmineB_ , right. They're hideous.
Facts 😂
Don't do the clowns dirty like that
That's the perfect description of these clothes. Who would buy them and for so much money too?
JasmineB_ LMAOO
Update for anyone new: as of May 2021 she sells Red Aspen nail products and Plunder jewelry, both MLMs. I feel so bad for her. She is exactly the kind of person these awful companies prey on.
Maybe she just learned to join early lmao
Anyways, I hope she gets it one day
You're joking right? She is a grown person more than capable of making her own decisions. Just say no doesn't just apply to drugs
Do you also feel bad for the people she continously conning just to get her "fix"?
She’s failed to learn the lesson though.
Wonder if she's read this...
In MLMs, YOU are the customer. You're not a "consultant/partner".
Very well said
Yes EXACTLY what I was gonna say!
What I've noticed, in all these 'poor me, I fell for a pyramid scam' videos, is that not one of these women mention feeling bad for all the other women that they personally conned & used to work their way up the financial reward ladder.
(Oh WOW! Thanks for all the likes, I really appreciate it!)
Although I think the cult like attitude of the mlm makes it so those girls rlly do believe what they're saying to others. I think most were just delusioned and didnt know what they were dragging others into. At least by being in these type videos they're raising more awareness than they probably could just locally
@@pinkpink-kb6dl You make good points. Thanks.
Preach
No one made them buy the clothes.
@@grannygoes7882 hi, I'm not sure what you meant in your comment, when you say 'them', who are you referring to?
She’s the friend you’re constantly dodging because they’re always selling something new
yep, this is my neighbor
@@sableann4255 Time to move.
That ain't a friend lol
She's my mom XD
I have an old friend that has recently been consumed by the Arbonne cult. Now all she does is irritate everyone by trying to sell us stuff. It's just awful, I'm like of you need money I'll just give you money stop being a salesman instead of our friend!
The fact she was able to sell $35000pm of Lularoe just makes me wonder why she isn't in marketing or in sales.
She didn't make money from selling Lularoe, she made money off the people she signed up.
Its because its not about her. She just got in at the right time whem it was popular.
I wonder if she thought about saving those bonuses instead of squandering
@@lmusima3275 nah lol
Agreed - even if a portion was from recruiting fees, that still means she's both good with people and selling of some sort.
As a someone who works in fashion, I must say these clothes are a crime against our industry
🤣🤣🤣
Agree, remember there's a reason why they were not sold in stores. Like all pyramids they have subpar products that would never sell in a conventional way.
And they know it, too. I buy clothes second-hand off Mercari, and every seller correctly lists the brand name in the offer EXCEPT those selling Lularoe - they’ll put other brands in the listing and then you only see the actual brand name in the photos. 😡
And soo ugly.
I was literally just thinking the same when she held up that big ugly printed dress 😭
This woman is currently selling more MLM crap. She's not a victim. She's naive. I repeat, she's NOT a victim. She gets herself in these situations by being naive, foolish, and immature. She needs to grow the hell up.
Brianna Gordy , some folks don't learn.
Brianna Gordy, not to mention extremely gullible.
How do you know shes selling more mlm?
Wish jewelry? If she could manage her money better, it could work. But I don't know why people don't just buy directly from wish lol
Whaaaattttt 😂😂😂😂
I don't understand why they all speak in terms of gross sales and not net. Gross sales mean nothing!
Litterally fluff. That's all it is. Fluffing the numbers
@@Vlad2319 Exactly.
These MLMS look for people who have little business experience or who are a bit unsophisticated, financially.
I'd like to see the numbers after paying for inventory, paying taxes (which it seems she failed to do), and any other operating cost.
K exactly!
"I have a bankruptcy lawyer that I used before" tells you everything you need to know about her life choices.
👍😅 bc one hard lesson was apparently not enough
Life choices? Didn’t President Trump declare bankruptcy?
As of July 2021 she's been selling Red Aspen nails and is still doing Plunder, so she has literally been hopping from MLM to MLM since VICE interviewed her. She needs professional help; she clearly has an addictive personality, and in spite of MLMs bankrupting her, she continues to dump money into them.
No. She just doesn't want to work.
@@TILLEYJS MLMs are usually more work.
My dad was the same way. he went broke and had to file for bankruptcy because he sunk all his money into pyramid schemes. He kept thinking he was going to get rich. Instead he lost well over 200k and went broke had to file bankruptcy. he didn't learn his lesson with the first pyramid scheme and he never learned, he had an addictive personality, exactly the kind of suckers these corrupt companies are looking for
@@mirandataylor6385 Less work is the false promise that MLMs sell you. They tell you about flexible hours, self starting, entrepreneurship, and friendship, all just for a small starting price of hundreds if not thousands of dollars. They specifically prey on people who don’t have a lot of time and want to earn money quick and easy and are easily swept up by people who throw out buzzwords. So both what you and the other person said are true. People join MLMs thinking that they can work less, but in reality, they end up working more.
“34 and going through bankruptcy twice. I feel so stupid.”
Ok maybe it makes me heartless buuuut you should feel dumb! You were making more than enough to pay your damn taxes, pay off that car, put some money in the bank, SOMETHING.
Sure, but MLMs usually force you to reinvest your profit
Also 34? Is she shaving some years off that?
Don’t talk shit, poor girl fell for a pyramid scheme and she survived cancer.
Hippopotamus Anonymous she involved with another MLM company now. She’s not caught on yet.
@@hippopotamusanonymous1580 she is part of another mlm
How does she have all her spreadsheets, work an analyst job, and somehow let it slip she needs to pay taxes?
I mean, MLM is a scam, but come on woman.
I was part of an mlm for a bit and they make it known that you need to pay taxes if you made over 600 I believe. She definitely knew.
HawaiianStyle what is MLM?
Camila Hernandez multi level marketing
Newdark Neoss
I mainly feel bad because she said she had breast cancer a few years back. I’m soft on people who’ve had cancer
@@natanyaparsons8491 I saw on a different LLR video that they have tax laws in the states that make it tricky for sudden high earners, because they have to pay taxes quarterly and if you don't, you're fined. but most people don't pay quarterly taxes so they don't know that until its too late.
And yet now she's still selling MLM jewellery and is Beach Body "coach"...
Now furniture 🤦♀️
as of right now it’s jewelry wjdkdksjsjsjd
As of today (October 17th, 2021), she has learned nothing. 3 MLMs. Plunder, Beach Body, and Red Aspen. Vice did a great job with this video, it's a shame that Jill can't do a great job herself.
I can get over her joining the pyramid scheme. But not paying taxes and quiting a decent job to professionally shop when you were addicted to shopping? That's where she lost me.
The Wordsmith I thought I was the only one who noticed that too. She was addicted to shopping - got into a pyramid scheme
Where her income is based on her selling & buying products. It’s the same as someone addicted to caffeine working at a coffee shop
@@laurastrong2768 No, I noticed it. She found a 'job' to feed her shopping addiction.
I noticed as well. Considering her past it was a very unwise decision to take on a job that was basically shopping when she had a shopping addiction.
When she said she had to take out loans to buy more inventory, I was like, "Girl..."
MLMs aren’t pyramid schemes. 🙄 Please learn the difference between the two bc they are significant. One is illegal, the other is not.
Lets all take a step back and peep that 3 seconds of text on the screen at 5:03. "Jill is now working to pay of $39k+ in tax debt." Key note there is TAX DEBT. I hate MLMs as much as any normal person would but this person was making money hand over fist then simply neglected to pay her taxes? I don't even want to hear "ohh she didn't know..." F that she has very detailed records of her income week over week for 18 months. She knew she needed to pay taxes and didn't. This one is on her.
The Luo she actually didn’t make much. Lularoe coaches it’s sellers to reinvest most of the money they make into buying more inventory, so she most likely didn’t have much cash on hand.
@Lucky Catnip see the way it works is that while they are making money the company heavily influences them by giving them a gift reward and telling them to invest the profits into more inventory and new stock. So they actually ate majority of her profits. That how the pyramid makes its money at the top
facts
She'd have been better off just working a regular j-o-b/career in the first place. But the MLM industry calls jobs "Just Over Broke", "Just Obey the Boss" and "Just Outside Bankruptcy" so she's in a Chapter 13 repayment bankruptcy any way.
Shafer Gaming Exactly! I knew someone who sold $6k/ month and I thought man that’s amazing, but in reality she was still in the red with the company. I never understood how she still owed them so much even after selling so much.
shopping addiction, 39k in TAX DEBT, is now selling with two more MLMs. this is entirely on her.
Finding out that she is involved in 3 more mlms since this made my sympathy evaporate quite quickly.
She doesn’t even realize that she paid for her own cruise ... “put the money back into the business..”?! So you got tens of thousands of dollars of clothes on hand ???
They're encouraged to do this by their uplines.... because how else are they gonna earn their coin? Eventually, you run out of Facebook friends and family to market to - so you rely on your lackeys buying shit from the company (where you get a bigger % commission off the purchase from bigger packages) to earn $, it's far more lucrative. Therefore, the reps themselves are the company's biggest customers.
If the said company believes so much in their products, they would send it to you first, you send them their cut when it sells. Consignment like deal where the seller(the one interacting with the customers) pays for the product as it sells.. Or return it in a postage paid box provided by wholesaler.. But what's the point, if every bit of money you make goes to buying more stuff that may not sell.. You should get a FULL REFUND on crap that didn't sell..
She mentions sales....but those sales numbers at least half is out of her own pocket. How much was actual profit in the bank every month??? Her wild claims of 10k 20k a month in sales doesnt mean shit when it amounts to 2I in actual profit. And then that profit goes to buy more trash clothes so she can buy her "free" cruise. Lolololol
@@anniemacleod It's an addiction
Her shopping addiction tranfered over to the MLM business.
Yup that's exactly what I said
Came here to say this . They got a golden ticket when they recruited her
Those are exactly the types of ppl they target... Bored suburban housewives secretly racking up their husbands credit cards shopping on WISH & Amazon...
Just like a drug dealer TARGETS addicts. To afford your addiction you start SELLING to other addicts. A company that's slinging cheap clothes needs shopaholics to buy them & turn around & sell them so they can continue to feed their shopping addictions... Sad.. These ppl need REAL therapy & NOT "retail therapy"...
Maybe there needs to be a 12 Step Program for people addicted to MLMs.
She needs therapy for compulsive behavior and addictive personality traits. Wishing her the best 🙏🏽
She's in another 2 mlms based on her instantgram 😞 you can't help people that aren't willing to save themselves she's going to have a 3rd bankruptcy eventually
She's a cautionary tale about the destruction from MLMs.
@@morganirvine2327 that is not good
Mlms need to stop.
@@morganirvine2327 Agreed. i think the biggest risk is that every one tells you they're not an MLM and they're different, but they're basically all the same.
People don’t understand the concept of saving, prepaying bills, and prioritizing money. I feel bad for her but money management could have saved her.
Yeah those are lessons I had to learn the hard way. I hope she learns something.
@@moomoopo she hasn't. She's in another mlm. Some never learn.
Maggie K Oh no! That’s awful news. Where did you find this update, if you don’t mind me asking?
Prepaying is the biggest lesson i have learned for sure.
Don't feel sorry for this idiot. She didn't learn her lesson and now she's involved in ANOTHER MLM.
She was flexing about making $150,000 a year but couldn’t pay for a lady to do her quarterly taxes? Huh? 🤔🤔🤔🤔
She made 150k total sales a year. She didn't actually earn $150k. Regardless, she's a moron for not having taxes taken out of her earnings.
I was wondering if the amount she made was her gross or net pay? If it was her net pay she was making a killing in the beginning she probably should’ve made as much as she could,and ran out as soon as it hit the fan. She could’ve paid off the car she got repossessed and had a little bit saved up to pay her taxes. But I guess you just don’t think when you’re in the thick of things. SMH
@@simonejt8060 As I already said, she didn't make 150k. She sold 150k worth of product in the first year. Her personal earnings were significantly lower since she had to pay for her inventory of clothes in the first place. She probably made like 30-40k of profit before taxes.
Tamarocker88 oh ok I see. So she basically made enough to pay her taxes. Smh
@@simonejt8060 bingo. That's why pyramid schemes should be avoided. First problem was buying the bait. Second was not paying her taxes. Third was investing in a failing business by taking out a loan.
“I just roll my eyes and move on” ...to the next pyramid scheme.
These are those snitch preppy girls in middle and high school that got pregnant at 20 and then needed to fill the void of loneliness.
This is absolutely why personal finance needs to be a required class in high school AND College. You should not have this much debt when you were making that much. You are supposed to pay self employment taxes quarterly not annually. Why couldn’t the car have been bought outright? Wow. Maybe she will find Dave Ramsey- he would definitely help.
And how much attention do students pay to _required_ classes? Zip. Offer it, yes and reward those who pass [passing in this class oughta be 95%!] somehow - but then you've got to wonder........who would teach it? The same kids who have a 4-year degree in writing and &100 G in student loan debt?
Lacey S I don’t feel sorry for these people if I would have paid my house off and car you made 27k month
Lacey S absolutely!
I doubt that's the reason certain people have spending problems. I think it's common sense that if you over spend, that you're going to be in debt, or not have money to survive. This isn't a problem for most people. Most people understand they need to be wise with their money. These grown adults know better, so I have zero sympathy.
My high school math teacher now sells for LuLaRoe. 🤦 People fall so easily for the "get rich quick" junk.
She had a bankruptcy attorney that she worked with in the past? That should've told you to not quit your day job......
dolokun all that inventory she had, she didn’t pay for! She paid a bankruptcy attorney twice for probably less than $2000 each time to wipe all that debt away! So those clothes were free!!!
She's working for another MLM now according to her IG. This time she's selling jewelry.
@@ilovemycats1121 She should sell those free clothes to pay off her taxes.
She has an addictive personality. How can she do it twice in less than 7 years. Very confusing.
Pretty sure she saw a quick fix in lularoe and thought she didn't have to work that hard
She's on 2 different MLMs right now as of today. Some people just never learn. Filed bankruptcy two times and shes STILL out here doing the same old stuff. 🤦♀️I really hope she figures life out and does better.
You can't fix stupid. Some people will never learn.
She'll be on bankruptcy #3 before 40 that's horrifying
She’s on her path to the Darwin Award
you only make that kind of money if you have people under you, it sucks that she ended up in debt, but there are a ton of people under her who spent their last free bucks for the promise of her lifestyle. She literally made that money scamming people.
Judging by her instagram it looks like she hasn’t learned very much...
AryaLondonGonzales I’m starting to think she’s a collector of debt and pyramid schemes....
What’s her instagram?
Noe Montoya it’s in the description of the video
Her followers are fake too...how sad.
It’s Jill Domme 03 and you’re right. She’s selling jewelry now. Another MLM scam. Very sad.
I imagine Goodwill and Salvation Army stores are overloaded with LulaRoe
No we don’t use that trash, their products aren’t up to standards at All
I've seen quite a bit of new with tags LLR at the thrift stores I frequent.
@@grannygoes7882 I can't bring myself to buy it, even for resale. But it's also not in my ebay niche so there's that.
Nahhh use em for car rags
Yes, and the clothes are being sold at give away prices.
I’m just baffled that anyone managed to sell so many hideous clothes. I’ve visited their site out of curiosity and man, terrible designs. They must be really good at marketing because the product ain’t it.
Imagine how many mangers were spoken to on that cruise lol.
"There are only so many ways to be creative with a triangle print" - not recognizing that a Pyramid is also a triangle... And she got burned.
at first I thought that's what she meant because she was clearing in a pyramid scheme..... but then I saw she pulled up a dress with fucking triangle prints. lol
Oh the delicious irony
I almost joined this company but my husband wasn’t feeling it. Happy I listened :)
Right ?!? Like mine would never in a.million years like how did a lot of these women get money from there husband for this?
Same 😂
Good thing, most of the time when you try to warn people from MLMs they get sooo offended
If I was married and my partner wanted to be in an MLM, I would demand a prenup and separate finances.
Right for the wrong reasons
Her: My car that was repossessed
Her post: Thanks to LulaRoe
I just reallly wish this girl would of learned but shes still selling beachbody..GIRL YOU LOST $ BC THATS HOW MLMS ARE SET UP. ALL OF THEM 👏
So she wasn’t paying taxes...
I don't understand that. How can you NOT set money aside for taxes? If you run your own business, it's four times a year that you pay. So why not set aside money for that?
Yip, the whole story could be boiled down to that. She didn't pay her taxes.
Well, taxation is theft but that’s another story
@@Herekittykitty01 agreed.
@@Herekittykitty01 How are you going to pay for public services or infrastructure then ? Tax is necessary
Anyone else feel so much better about their financial decisions right now? Because I do.
definitely lmao Thank GOD I have a brain!
I may not make much at all BUT I am making it work in Southern California and this video made me feel wayyyy better
Oh my gosh yes. I'm 26 and currently homeless but at least my only debt is school loans and unexpected medical bills(broke my ankle and didn't have insurance because I couldn't afford it). And my car is paid off. I just can't imagine making that much and not paying off my taxes and other debts as soon as possible.
I feel for her but judging from the other comments it doesn't sound like she's learned her lesson.
Yes. Ive been unhappy with my 36k job for the past 6 months and these movies on lularoe really put this shit in perspective.
@Honeysuckle Blossom I agree. I did say that judging from the comments she hasn't learned her lesson, some people just really think mlm's will make them rich, and I guess it does work for a small few but most just get scammed, sadly.
Lol this is why I delete anyone selling this kinda crap on fb
No wonder I’ve seen at goodwills and my local buy/trade stores so many racks of lularoe clothes
4:57 "I had to go back to work"
Awww how terrible for you.
Have a heart. She has stated she has had an addiction: *an addiction to working*
She's walking a fine line by having to go back to work like us plebs
Edit: 🥲
working for grub hub isnt much better than working for lularoe. companies like grub hub, lyft, uber give you cash in your pocket, it seems reasonable for awhile. Then your car breaks or needs maintenance because you are driving around so much. Then you realize that all the money you have been making is going to go back into your car. You are actually making less than minimum wage.
Stin yeah it should be a side hustle, I was actually thinking about doing it but I’d save money
ALOT of Lyft/Uber/GrubHub drivers just rent cars through Hertz, etc. You can rent a car for a week for like $300. In a big city, you can cover that cost in 4 days doing deliveries or dropping people off via Uber/Lyft. The other 3 days is profit. I know a few people that are doing this
#1 ON TRENDING personal insurance will not protect you if it comes out that you're driving rental cars for commercial use, and you can't register for commercial insurance on a car you don't own.
@@donkazoid how long have you been working for them?
Go get a bloody cheap Honda and stop using the uber/lyft profit for booze and other unnecessary stuff.
The problem I have with this issue is that the woman in the video (Jill Domme) was more than willing to sell, recruit and push something on other women that made her uncomfortable to start with. And although she learned it was a mistake...she kept it going.
All MLMs are selling you a dream. Not giving you a job. If you're 34 and having to file bankruptsy because of your shopping habit, you need help. Otherwise you're gonna be 44 and not have anywhere to live but you will have 65 pair of shoes.
She traded a shopping addiction for a shopping/selling addiction.
b2kzangelalwayz , laugh my ass off!
I’m donating the last 40 pieces of inventory....you are sitting in front of MOUNDS of clothes
How do we know which part was shot when?
cyoohoos she also said she was addicted to shopping. The mounds of clothes are probably hers.
Right?!?! I couldn't imagine having that much clothing! Jeezus
@@LilyR____________13 Yes, I was thinking the stuff she's sitting in front of is her own personal stuff.
@@NorthernGreenEyes I moved to China a little over a year ago and I have only bought maybe a couple pairs of shorts and a couple t-shirts, and a couple of tanks in that time. I did well in picking out what to pack, and I'm proud that for someone who really likes to shop, I've not purchased a bunch of clothing or knick-knacky stuff. When I come home, I plan to do a closet clean out and just stick with quality stuff that I LOVE, as opposed to a closet stuffed with "bargains I couldn't pass up" that I hardly ever wear.
You had an addiction to shopping, no different than addiction to anything-it is all about dopamine and feeling good-in the moment. You are human, you are not a failure. Thank you for sharing your weaknesses and experiences, right there, that alone- proves you are an amazing person.
$25k a month in income and $48k in tax debt? Not claiming LLR is innocent, but she made her own poor personal finance decisions.
"I fell for a pyramid scheme and now I have to do actual work."
Spencer J Elliott Except she is now in 2 MLM's...can't fix stupid 🤦🏻♀️
Welcome to the real working world...*HUN*
Katarzyna Zabinska 😂😂😂
She probably still believes that the next MLM will be the One!
Isn’t Mary Kay also a pyramid scheme?
I appreciate Vice doing this story. I was just in a restaurant where a new big fancy Escalade was in the parking lot with a Lu La Roe sticker on the back... while eating I noticed a colorfully dressed person at a table next to us and couldn’t help but hear her conversation about how great the company is and how she just toured a production facility where the workers were thanking her for her business... it was so obvious the woman is in way over her head and after hearing what this company does with coaching people into going into debt it’s really sad and I’m happy Vice keeps shining a light on this cult/pyramid scheme. Even if we have google- brainwashing is real.
This video has nothing to do with lu la roe or mlms being bad. This chick is just shitty at managing her money and didn't pay her taxes... When you overspend and don't realize you have debt, you end up like her. It's no ones fault but hers that she is where she is.
High Five~!
@@josephn364 MLMS ARE BAD. they're all pyramid schemes. Get outta here!
@@josephn364 you're under every thread, going hard for LuLaroe...are you or your wife a hunbot, by any chance? MLMs are very BAD, just watch Vice's doc about how predatory LuLaroe is....
@@isitoveryet9525 the funny thing is, idk how this ended up on my recommendations. I don't care about any of this. I dont even know what lularoe is.
I am familiar with Mlms though. I'm also familiar with human greed and expecting to make and spend money fast with no consequences.
I don't believe in targeted irrelevant reporting like this though. If she doesn't 1099 her earnings on her delivery app, she's going to fucking owe taxes again. The root of her problem isn't a pyramid scheme, it's not mlms, it's not lu la roe. The root of her problem is her own stupidity. I will bet actual money that she won't pay taxes on her delivery earnings, any takers?
I really appreciate this documentary as I went through something similar with Melaleuca, where I worked the business hard, for several years, moved up the ladder, won prizes and company titles, started making good money and then everything started falling apart with people dropping off and quitting. I wasn't sure why as the products were and are high quality and the company has always been pretty honest but their prices are outrageously high. I went to Walmart and Target one day, with a pad of paper, and compared Melaleuca products with grocery store products and found they were up to 5-times cheaper and I didn't need to commit to buying $80-$100 worth of toothpaste, laundry soap and other products, every month. I firmly believe that network marketing/MLM companies are a giant scam and should be avoided, at all costs! I went back to college, finished my degree, got a great job
Good for you!!!!!!!! :)
I could never be successful at this. I don’t have enough friends🤣
She says she's giving the rest of her inventory away. But I'm convinced most of it is still in the background 😂
Right, i was thinking the same thing. She has alot of clothes
She seems to like a lot of it, her style somehow
amazingabby25 yeah huge curtains to cover her body
That's a fashion crime first of all. Who wears those?
Dieguismama fashion 🚔
Obese people
Sister wives
I have a pair that have Jack Skellington's face on them that I wear around the house. I bought them to replace a pair of pajama bottoms with Jack Skellington's face on them. All the rest are crazy looking and I wouldn't be caught dead in them.
Fat ladies
You can blame Lularoe for using you as a pawn to make the owners more money, for lying to you, for treating you crappy after you left the company- that’s all perfectly fair.
But you cannot blame them for irresponsible spending; you will need to deal with this as your own problem or you’ll continue overspending yourself into a very dark hole
MLMs rubbing their hands watching this lady.
A little advice: if it seems too good to be true, it IS!
Kaitlyn , correct!
Honestly, if she had save some of the money she made. She wouldn't be doing this bad.
MLMs don’t even sound too good to be true to me because you have to pay to join. You should NEVER pay for a job. Pay for resume and cover letter writing help and interview coaching, sure. But the job itself? No way.
I had never heard of lularoe until I saw story on CZcams.
It is 2019 who the hell is buying clothes from consultants??
Amazon prime. Instant gratification. Free returns. 🤦🏻♀️
fr. even if you're coming at it from the other side and want to sell clothes to bring in extra money.. just do drop shipping or referrals or something.
I have never known anyone who has ever worn those hideous clothes!😰
Yeah and now they have amazon wardrobe so you can also try it on for 7 days free and send back what doesn’t fit.... or not even.... you can legit drop it off at kohl’s or Walmart too now if you want.... there is literally zero risk to buy clothes on amazon. I pick out three pairs of jeans, order 2-3 sizes of each, and bam, fitting room lol. Obviously I don’t do that for like tshirts but you see my point, even if you’re getting pricey jeans you can order it, have it in two days, try them on first and then return them free if they don’t fit, as you said.
But bc Lula Roe consultants only would get sent random sizes and have like one outfit in each size or whatever only a few, especially in the few styles people actually liked... it set up this weird like.... competitive thing for stay at home moms. I swear it’s just endorphins, and fast talking, like a used car salesman, then it comes in the mail when you’re back in your normal headspace and you’re like what the fuck did i buy?! Lol
Lulaloe can be found in the thrift
"You're On Beans and Rice, Rice and Beans and Let's Clean this mess up"--Dave Ramsey
James Ni Dave all day! “Live like no one else, so you can live and give like no one else.” -Dave Ramsey
Lol when her mom compared getting rid of the last of lularoe was like getting rid of cancer
why didn't she just sell her inventory on ebay instead of donating it
Because it's literally worthless. She has to give it away.
nobody wants clothes that disintegrate
Because those are literally worthless. No one would buy them
Before you put anything on eBay you have to do a search to make sure there aren't 6,000 listings of the same item. Will you make a profit (or any money at all) if you list 100 items at a listing fee of 0.35 each before 17 of them get seen and 5 of them sell?
@@AaaaNinja I was thinking about her just getting some money back, not making profits, but yeah, the effort is also probably not worth it
"How my bad decisions hurt me, and why it's someone else's fault"
Classic narcissism
Every American’s current mentality these days...
THIS- she was actually very successful with LuluRose- surprisingly. All she had to do was not spend irresponsibly and paid her taxes
She needs help both financially and emotionally. She clearly has something deeper going on causing her to spend more than she makes. She clings to temporary success and happiness then falls back in to a hole. I hate MLM’s but this time they aren’t to blame only herself and she clearly isn’t learning. Bankruptcy #3 coming up soon! I think there should be a limit on how many bankruptcies should be allowed. She clearly isn’t learning and never will.
Be strong girl. Being as positive as possible is a game changer. I'm 24 years out from the breast cancer.
When my husband died a stranger sent me a pair of their leggings with a bussiness card and asked me to join. They split in the crotch. This is literally a very privileged waste to 😥
I'm very sorry that your husband passed away. I hope you're doing okay.
She should go into legitimate sales. She’d make a killing
I'm not sure if she really made a killing because it appears she bought a lot of the stuff her self ie the clothes in the background but she didn't pay for the shit that wasn't inventory such as her vehicle. However, if she truly sold a bunch of stuff to someone other than her self... she should get into pharmaceutical sales... those bonuses you get to keep. They'd also take out taxes so she wouldn't have to work at Grub Hub at the end of a good sales year.
Sales is usually pretty sexist. Men tend to do the best since they are hired to the well paying jobs. Women usually end up in a call center unless they are very beautiful.
She dosnt have the skills or background.
@@noeytindol5529 there are _plenty_ of ugly women in sales... that comment "sales is usually pretty sexist" demonstrates you know nothing about sales or careers or business development _or what sexist even means_ .... have you even ever had a job to pay to keep a roof over your head?
@@ingracebyfaith Somehow I think I know more than you in this regard. Do a little research.
If anyone from the A&E show Intervention is watching this, you need to do an episode of people in pyramid schemes and get them the professional help they so desperately need!
Y'all. Take 5000$ and BUY a used car. Like, save about 5,500$ and then once you've reached your amount, go BUY the car in cash and be done with it.
I'm still trying to figure out how anyone can wear those hideous tights.
"I wouldn't see my friends, I would barley leave my apartment. I thought I was living the life." How does that add up??
...So this is the second time she went bankrupt due to a shopping addiction and this fool's out there selling for two more MLMs. No one can help her.
I find it interesting that LuLaRoe got captioned as “loup-garou” (French for “werewolf”) a few times on this video. Whatever a “werewolf cruise” would entail, it’d be less predatory (and probably badass) than an actual MLM.
I’d love to know the number of vehicles that had a Lularoe decals at the time of repossession.
That's cold bruh
9/10
Any MLM sticker
Darth Max if you are making that kind of money pay cash omg like what
@@crookedchaos253 Suspect that the MLMs pushed them to buy the most expensive vehicle they could. Have to make the hunbot lifestyle look attractive to the new recruits.
How do you make $150K living in Portland, in an apartment & don’t have $40k left. I think there is some pivotal deets missing.
MLMs always tell people to reinvest profits into more and more inventory. You can see some of those unsold clothes behind her when she’s talking
shutupsavannah That would reduce her “taxable” income which was noted as $150K. Taxable income is the number you use after expense deductions like inventory & things of that nature.
Phoebe Felice I mean, based on how much financial literacy she seems to have, I’m not sure if she factored all of that in? Not sure tho
Thomas Moll FALSE, that is not how it works. Especially if you own a business, you deduct the cost of what you buy, you sell it...your difference is your profit. She’s a business owner & has two ways to earn income in this case. NEXT?
Phoebe Felice it shouldn’t be that difficult to keep track of that I really think she was buying shit she didn’t need or maybe she’s just stupid like you said
You’ve got the best attitude. Keep drawing on that strength you have as a survivor. I’m just gutted that women are going through this. I’ve got a fatal condition and as soon as that was made “public” in our small town here in rural Australia I had sales people ring me, Facebook me, text me....all people who were parts of MLMs . Thankfully my mother just said “no way!” . I’m so very sorry you’ve had to go through all of this.
Bankruptcy twice? Ok. That's where I stopped listening.
Dont wanna be rude, but she doesnt seem very bright.
Hmm, "not very bright" plus obvious issues with impulse control and breast cancer under 35 yrs old... wonder if her neighborhood has lead pipes.
She's not bright at all. She's back doing another MLM!!
She isn't. She is more to be pitied than scorned.
No one who joins an MLM is very bright. That’s why they prey on them because they are so vulnerable and desperate.
"Dom(me)" actually means dumb in dutch so its fitting
Is she involved in ANOTHER mlm? Plunder Jewelry according to the bio/her insta?
Yeup thats mlm! I saw it on, " looks like a mlm but okay" or reddit or something....
Sadly, mlm people are similar to drugs addicts. Unless they get proper treatment and education, they just go on trading one addiction for another.
@@ladyv5655 Ah, man. fr?
@@ladyv5655 hey I think you are right. Actually, Most opinions that I read here are pretty much on who's to blame etc (I mean everyone has their right to their opinion too). Yours is rather insightful. Actually, Courtney Harwood who was on Vice as well; used to be a consultant for lularoe mentioned on another CZcams video that she has been seeing a therapist and has been moving out of a seemingly cult mentality
Creepy stalker...
Also, using phrases like, "I have to go back to work." tells you something about the fact that these MLM companies aren't really jobs in the first place. And the consultants are the customers. Sooo...
A pyramid scheme lady in my building said she had some meeting she wanted me to go to. I told her that if it was anything like the Amway old man at work dragged me to, I was not interested. She assured me. Low and behold, it was worse. Basically, you buy in for $2,000. Once you get 6 other people to buy in, you get your $2,000 back. There was no product or service. My table was supposed to buy dinner. The Mexican lady at my table said, "we don't do that at our table." I left, and M chased me out. After I heard about them getting busted, I called the police and gave them her info. And then I left her a voicemail, telling her the police were on the way. karma
Omg I was fooled into getting a meeting with an Amway consultant thinking it was a potential job and I felt like I was abducted. They wouldn't let me leave for nearly fckn 2hrs. I was so pissed.
I know this woman didn't go bankrupt over granny clothing 🤦🏾♀️
HAHAHAHA, that comment had me weak! 😂😂😂
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I find it more ironic they think they are trying to find customers, when they are the customer... lol
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Was this supposed to make me feel bad for her?
Exactly, and guess what - she went back into another MLM! Finance needs to be taught in schools.
Ent Acc , schools are becoming scams, too.
@@valuecalc The solution is to improve them - have a government that gives a damn about the common man and funds them better. Education is essential, and cannot be missed just because at the moment it's a scam
Ent Acc , good luck fixing it.
@@valuecalc It ain't up to me - it's up to us all to lobby for it. Guess some people aren't too bothered about the good of all though?
She’s the perfect product of the consumer society - taught nothing in school about how financial systems operate or financial management, probably exposed to constant advertising while she was growing up, in a world where the messaging given to young people is that your character isn’t worth developing - it’s what kind of stuff you have that matters. She’s the perfect fodder for MLMs, and of course she’ll be prone to getting taken in by their cultish tactics; she’s their perfect prey. Yes, she was foolish, maybe she still is - any update on her MLM career? - but she was basically programmed that way.
Okayeee then - I just answered my own question. Googled her name, which led me to her IG feed, which discloses that she’s plugging 3 brands of stuff - cosmetics, accessories, & something wooden. I think. I didn’t stick around long. Anyhow, I won’t delete my previous post ☝️ but just so you all don’t think I’m naive - at this point in time, her decision to remain a slave to the MLM cults goes beyond her programming into something perhaps more pathological. I’m glad I don’t get it.
At my university it was required to take financial literacy and economics classes if you were in a performing and visual arts degree program. My roommate was humanities majors while I was in studio arts and to graduate I had to have not only taken two classes in financial literacy but also had to submit a resume and cover letter, and do interviews before I could graduate. In fact a topic in one such class was avoiding MLMs. All of our professors in these programs stressed to us that we had to know these things because "artists have to think about everything when it comes to making a living. You can't just trust anyone"
After watching this video yeah I get why they pushed so hard for use to have that knollage.
I feet for her. I just saw a car pass me the other day with a lularoe sign on it and I was like aren't they out of business by now?
She said she has so many people that love her, but no one told her this was a bad idea? Is her support group just as gullible?
Often women without much of a support group or social network are the ones that will fall into this type of shit, and then their social network and support groups become full of people also involved in the scheme. They make it seem like they are this tight-nit community that all have each others backs and it's really appealing to those who don't have that in their life.
MLMs, just like cults, often prey on people who don't have a good (or any) social support group. Lonely people or people who don't have healthy relationships are a prime target for them.
MLMs and cults will "love bomb" you when you're new. Suddenly, you're surrounded by tons of new friends who compliment you nonstop, believe in you, and love you so much! ...Only this "friendship" and "love" is very conditional. If you start questioning the MLM/cult or leave, all of your new "friends" will mock you and/or shun you.
MLMs and cults also try to isolate their members from any opposing viewpoints. Only the MLM/cult is right. Anyone who does not support the company/cult is automatically wrong. People who don't support it are all negative, stupid, misinformed, haters, jealous, toxic, awful, or even evil people who don't want you to succeed, so you need to cut them out of your life! Your friends and family who think you're making a mistake by being part of this, and trying to talk you out of it, are all just a bunch of dumb negative haters who are only going to bring you down, they don't actually care about you like we in the MLM/cult do!
And even if an MLM doesn't explicitly tell you to cut off your loved ones...their sales tactics are an indirect way to cut them off. Constantly spamming your friends and family with sales pitches on social media and turning every social interaction with them into a potential sale is eventually going to drive everyone who doesn't want to get involved with the MLM away from you...which helps solidify the echo chamber.
You can’t tell people like that
Right...plus whose responsibility is it to tell her otherwise, especially when she was high off "success"? I'm willing to bet had they told her, she would've accused them of being jealous or a bunch of skeptics.
It takes a real friend to tell you you suck. It's just too easy to smile and nod
You were addicted to shopping and filed Bankruptcy twice at the age of 34 maybe you should do some serious soul searching it's you and no one else accept and take responsibility for your actions.
D W thanks for the advice dad
If there were any damn decent jobs out there that paid a living wage with some benefits maybe half the country wouldn’t get sucked in by these MLM shysters.
I thought all of those clothes piled behind her when they were interviewing her was her leftover inventory... then at the end she took one little bag left of lularoe stuff to goodwill... it seems obvious she is still struggling with a shopping addiction :(
@@2Sparrows4aFarthing In order to get one of those decent jobs, you have to invest in your education. Now, I don't neccessary mean college. I wish more people would go to Technical Schools, but I'm aware that they aren't for everyone.
@@mOnika-pt6vk exactly invest in yourself is what I always say
I was addicted to shopping and had to declare bankruptcy. Oooh! LuLaRoe? Buying clothes? Ok, sounds good. Bankruptcy #2.
Addicted to alcohol? Don't work as a bartender.
Addicted to stuff? Don't work in a thrift store.
Etc. Etc. Etc.
how this people make thousands and thousands of dollars and don’t pay their debts, you can literally send 30k to pay off your car, your mortgage
Ummmm did she never pay tax? She’s an adult... she freakin claimed bankruptcy for “shopping too much?”
No. No sympathies here. Sweet of you to donate the moldy clothing though.
I want Portland Oregon white women problems... "I was just laying in bed, I had no makeup on and that's when I knew my life was over" 😂😂😂
Oh boy I tell you her life seemed so hard boy oh boy the struggle got real for her 🤣🤣
Portland Oregon is a hellhole of neo-Marxist anarchists.
Lmao right
PowerTuber 3.0 that’s the whole world bro, it’s just that Portland is the type of place you can show your true self. Assholes are everywhere. Just like cho’mo’s (fam,friends,and strangers)
I'd love to have black male problems. Oh wait, I'd probably be dead.
We all need to go Back to living a simple life. Too much of this trying to be successful, work hard and just try to save. But rampant consumerism is why we have things like MLM.
thank you for sharing your story. you are a beautiful woman full of so many good traits . I see a creative, hard working and enthusiastic person who poured her energy into lularoe and unfortunately got screwed due to the companies bad rap. You had the guts to at least try !!! The lessons you learned will last a lifetime. You are resilient ! There are so many negative comments here , but you were willing to be open , honest and vulnerable to hopefully keep others from making the same mistakes. Go forward, rebuild your life and don't lose your spark ! God bless you.