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  • čas přidán 22. 09. 2022
  • "What is Atheism?" is the next big question on ELI10. Our host Meghnad is joined by his fellow podcaster friend, who he also refers to as a 'modern day philosopher', Vijayendra Mohanty, A.K.A. Vimoh, and comedian Masoom Rajwani as they try to find the answers. The episode is filled with philosophy, reasoning, faith and questions that will make your head hurt.... in a good way! (I promise)
    Link to the articles:
    Richard Dawkins' bus campaign: amp.theguardian.com/world/200...
    number of atheist in India: www.hindustantimes.com/india-...
    Pale Blue Dot: www.nyas.org/magazines/17-goa...
    Hindu-muslim clashes: theprint.in/world/hindu-musli...
    Subscribe to Vimoh on CZcams: / vimoh
    Follow Masoom on Instagram: masoom_rajw...
    Find our host Meghnad on his social handles:
    Instagram: meghnads?h...
    Twitter: / memeghnad
    LinkedIn: / meghnad-s. .

Komentáře • 84

  • @samy0001985
    @samy0001985 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Vimoh rationalistic and logical approach is what we need more in India.

  • @direct.skc.2
    @direct.skc.2 Před rokem +33

    Asking if 'Atheism is a Religion' is like asking if being an "Illiterate is a profession"!

    • @bhaskar8883
      @bhaskar8883 Před 11 měsíci +10

      Better analogy would be "Being Jobless is a profession!"

    • @itsoblivion8124
      @itsoblivion8124 Před 6 měsíci

      Atheists behaves Iike a cuIt sometimes

    • @icursedkid
      @icursedkid Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@bhaskar8883you can be so bad that your boss pays you to stay home though 🙄

  • @cybermonkey89
    @cybermonkey89 Před rokem +14

    Absolutely loved this episode! 🎉

  • @FactaClaus
    @FactaClaus Před rokem +8

    Atheism is like Brotherhood without Banners for the Theists. 😂
    It was an interesting conversation. I was initially looking for this video on your Meghnerd channel and I was not previously subscribed to this channel, I didn't receive any notification. But now I am and looking at the other videos, I find the discussions very interesting. Listening to you three was like a brainstorming session. I used to identify myself as gnostic atheist but since last 8 months I am more inclined towards agnostic atheism.

  • @arnabdasgupta8476
    @arnabdasgupta8476 Před rokem +14

    Popular Athiest: 1) Christopher Hitchens 2) Richard Dawkins 3) Ricky Gervais

  • @LukoseJoseph007
    @LukoseJoseph007 Před rokem +8

    Atheism being equated to a religion is simply paradoxical, if not funny.
    On the one hand, religion is a political tool for the systemic control/oppression of the "others." It fully depends, for its existence, on the indoctrination of extraordinary unfalsifiable claims through repetitive mind exercise called spirituality, repetitive tongue exercise called prayers, hymns, songs, and chants, and/or some other practice, all of which are aimed at making gullible people "believe" in (a) supernatural being(s)/spirits/chakras/souls/ghosts/etc. without questioning the enterprise that makes the claim.
    On the other hand, atheism is a political tool for a liberation from systemic control/oppression facilitated by religions and godmen by means of rejecting their extraordinary unfalsifiable claims and putting the burden of proof on the claimants to present sufficient evidences that can, then, be scientifically evaluated and peer reviewed.
    Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidences. And, I, for one, may acknowledge the existence of (a) god(s) if presented with scientifically verifiable extraordinary evidences proportionate to the weight of the claim. However, even then, let alone following, I won't even give a damn about the supernatural being(s) because I am fully convinced that the "god(s)" in question has one or more or all of the following attributes, making it/them unworthy of being followed:
    a) is/are powerless to change anything about reality;
    b) is/are unjust and cruel beyond my level of acceptance;
    c) is/are not sufficiently intelligent;
    d) has/have neither looked back nor cared about any creature ever since "the creation";
    e) has/have too many inconsistencies in their narratives;
    f) their storybooks are on many occasions highly questionable;
    and many more.

  • @kangtheconqueror2540
    @kangtheconqueror2540 Před rokem +9

    Vimoh op vimoh bhaiya real Chad

  • @warrior_of_liberation
    @warrior_of_liberation Před rokem +8

    "...prove that God doesn't exist" is a type of NEGATION.
    *NEGATIONS* are inherently unprovable claims. It gets even difficult when we talk about abstract concepts like *God* .
    •For NEGATION to be proved, the definition of such things like God should be defined properly. And then it should be addressed logically.
    Eg. Lets take definition as "God is Omnipotent all-powerful being"
    So to address it logically it can be asked...
    "Can god create a rock that he can't lift?"
    Logical questions like these can tell you there can't be such being.

  • @Zia_Ali.
    @Zia_Ali. Před rokem +6

    Excellent video!! It was a great idea to include a 3rd member (Masoom) in this as well! He made an excellent addition to the stream. Looking forward to any future content ❤️

  • @absquereligione5409
    @absquereligione5409 Před rokem +19

    Atheism: As long as theists fail to demonstrate that their preferred god exists, we see no reason to believe what theists believe.

  • @Avinash_105
    @Avinash_105 Před rokem +8

    Mindblowing video, gave me goosebumps at many instances thinking "this is exactly what I thought about this particular point"
    Also, Masoom clearly is overqualified to just be union leader of audience , great conversation overall!
    P.S. Atheism is a religion in the same way bald is a hair colour

  • @xyan819
    @xyan819 Před rokem +4

    Masoom's last comment on the ritual event at his house was a brilliant step.

  • @uditverma
    @uditverma Před rokem

    Thanks for this topic. You guys gave me points to throw at "believers" ...keep up the good work.

  • @yashwanthchoudary8302
    @yashwanthchoudary8302 Před rokem +1

    Loved this podcast

  • @shreekanth1685
    @shreekanth1685 Před rokem +12

    Hippopotamus mata ki jai!!

  • @pavneetpenny
    @pavneetpenny Před rokem

    Is podcast ki growth mast ho rhi hai as comparison to others ivm podcasts

  • @sirabhi
    @sirabhi Před 11 měsíci +1

    The bhagat Singh put out the same point which masoom pointed out that decision of whether you're an atheist or theist will be decided when you're in your bad phase.

  • @icursedkid
    @icursedkid Před 6 měsíci

    I'm 21, i was where Meghnad sir is currently at at 19. Which means I regarded the power of Universe as God, if big bang created the universe then that was god to me. Now I'm a complete atheist. I think the final string which was holding me back was my personal emotions. Growing up I've read a lot of hinduism stuff and puranas so ig I didn't want it to die. Unless I realized I can still enjoy those stories without having to force fit any term anywhere.

  • @criticalpsyche
    @criticalpsyche Před měsícem

    it is to do with dichotomy of sacred and profance.

  • @devanshm2331
    @devanshm2331 Před rokem +1

    Damn I enjoyed listening to all the perspectives you bought to the table ❤
    just for context i aint a fan of philosophical podcasts .

  • @anthropocene-
    @anthropocene- Před 4 měsíci

    I no longer call myself atheist, but instead a science literate.

  • @SouL_.Ken_
    @SouL_.Ken_ Před 5 měsíci

    35:30 bro very good point

  • @shibamcoss
    @shibamcoss Před 3 měsíci

    34:50 what a point 🤣🤣🤣💥

  • @Dontwatchyoutube
    @Dontwatchyoutube Před 8 měsíci

    @39:15 Faithful implies good DOES NOT MEAN (NOT) Faithful implies (NOT) good. It just means (NOT) Good implies (NOT) Faithful. These are entirely different statements.
    For interested readers, I just learnt about contraposition.
    If you are faithful, you are good; If you are not good, you are not faithful.
    It has no bearing on whether or not you are good when you are not faithful.
    Sicne they started talking about logic, I wanted to make sure that they are making logically sound arguments.

  • @user-vy2tc5sr7f
    @user-vy2tc5sr7f Před 3 měsíci

    Believe and faith are both different things.

  • @brianharris7243
    @brianharris7243 Před rokem +1

    It's literally not!

  • @The_Lionesss
    @The_Lionesss Před 3 měsíci

    Vimoh's logical points are op level

  • @mayb8876
    @mayb8876 Před 6 měsíci

    7:00 absolutely on point😂😂😂

  • @strangelee4400
    @strangelee4400 Před rokem +1

    Theist:
    noun
    a person who believes in the existence of a god or gods, specifically of a creator who intervenes in the universe.
    adjective
    denoting or relating to belief in the existence of a god or gods, specifically of a creator who intervenes in the universe.
    Atheist: Not a Theist.
    (The clue is in the name).

  • @mangesh6381
    @mangesh6381 Před rokem

    3:22 when something is proved you no longer have to believe....then you know it...believer and non believer ride on the same boat just at the opposite ends... enquiry into god is an internal inquiry , it is about realising and knowing

  • @meghakd
    @meghakd Před 6 měsíci +1

    29:15 vimoh is God of atheism

  • @karangogia1
    @karangogia1 Před rokem +3

    Bring Sanjay Rajaura and Vimoh together and do that in Hindi, same topic. Will love to see that.

    • @dreamysap
      @dreamysap Před rokem

      Sanjay Rajaura can speak English!

  • @aritra4028
    @aritra4028 Před 10 měsíci

    See I am an agnostic atheist
    ..But there is a problem with the argument "prove this only then I will believe"..We often say that math is the language of the universe...And we know in any reasonable mathematical system there will always be true statements that cannot be proved ..(Gödel's Incompleteness theorem) ..So if by our pattern recognition ability we somehow manage to know about the existence of GOD.. Would we ever be able to prove that?

    • @subh0x
      @subh0x Před 9 měsíci +2

      Yes but we choose axioms ( based on "natural" Behavior) and build math on it. So math isn't absolute, but if those axioms can be assumed to be true ( which they are since it's based on natural thinking) , then those theorems have to be true by definition.But unlike math, the concept of God is neither natural nor can you build theorems abt it, so I don't see how it compares to math.

    • @NileshKumar-nr2vj
      @NileshKumar-nr2vj Před 5 měsíci

      You can build logically sounding models for just about anything. The question of supernatural and God and creator is not mathematical, its should be demonstrable by the claims it is adhered to

  • @harinder78
    @harinder78 Před 5 měsíci

    Why this has only 500 likes ??

  • @atheistfreethinker
    @atheistfreethinker Před 4 měsíci +1

    atheism is religion like
    TV turned of is also a channel
    no shoe on foot is also a shoe
    no clothes on body also a type of clothes

  • @BeneathTheEquations
    @BeneathTheEquations Před 4 měsíci

    1:21:52 Street epistemology yt channel

  • @thimbaiah9005
    @thimbaiah9005 Před 6 měsíci

    No one reacted to masoom's "Koi to bachha banaya hai factory mai"

  • @LakshmiSrikhandpur
    @LakshmiSrikhandpur Před rokem

    Masoom’s prep was watching javed akhtar interviews…however still more articulate and contributed to the stream unlike the mess Meghnad is. Meghnad always going “interesting” and “going to ask that” then digresses..as usual. Here for Vimoh

  • @anmoldarjee3162
    @anmoldarjee3162 Před rokem

    That's why I love Advait , plain philosophy no burden of god

    • @amaranthswami2577
      @amaranthswami2577 Před 6 měsíci

      But consciousness don't exist without body.. so adwait is false

    • @sambal101
      @sambal101 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@amaranthswami2577 that i think we shouldn't be certain of ..whether it exists or not , need to wait for more confirmation.. it needs more research because we dont understand consciousness

    • @amaranthswami2577
      @amaranthswami2577 Před 6 měsíci

      @@sambal101 yes this same argument can be given for god also.. but I'm talking about present..

    • @mandeep1099
      @mandeep1099 Před 5 měsíci

      @@amaranthswami2577 advait was a copied philosophy from the Buddhism's concept of nihilism with a subject called as “Brahman”
      No wonder why so many people from other branches of Hinduism declare him as “crypto Buddhist” lmao

  • @parjanyaghosh8326
    @parjanyaghosh8326 Před 7 měsíci

    Believing in not believing, so its a religion technically 😂

    • @Jatin_Kukreja
      @Jatin_Kukreja Před 2 měsíci +1

      By your logic saying no is also saying yes

  • @shrikantshingate2283
    @shrikantshingate2283 Před rokem

    nciw

  • @IIXll0llXIl
    @IIXll0llXIl Před 6 měsíci

    📌 Atheism - The people who follow desires over Devine guidance.
    who need material explanation of Allah who created material.
    Who's concept about this world and destiny is unclear.
    Who want to see god in time space and matter which are creation of Allah.
    Who think no intellectual walked on this planet before them.
    Who believes in multiverse theories to some extent but deny the concept of eternal life hell and paradise.
    Who want everything perfect in his life if he follow the god
    He will see the signs of creator with creation and within himself but still he deny the creator because he cannot see him through his eyes.
    Who became ignorant overtime due to following the whims of their desires.
    Who are afraid to accept a concept of God in his life, because if he accept it then he have to live according to his parameters, he have to leave his comfort zone and change his life style.
    An atheist is a person who don't look into the only true religion because imperialists, socialist and colonialist etc indoctrinated him to believe him into the myths that this true religion is associated with terrorism, backwardness, who suppress women, who kills non-believers wherever they find them, etc - see without even mentioning the name "Islam" you 🫵 unconsciously linked it with islam.

    • @mandeep1099
      @mandeep1099 Před 5 měsíci

      Religion is a tool made by the wealthy to control the masses !!!

  • @shadowhymn5162
    @shadowhymn5162 Před rokem +4

    Masoom - 75IQ
    Meghnad - 85IQ
    Vimoh - 90IQ
    Total: Clowns talking.

    • @shiroyasha_007
      @shiroyasha_007 Před rokem +10

      ho gya tera

    • @shreyas4557
      @shreyas4557 Před rokem

      Says a guy who has a pepe frog fake profile with the name sun light (such an irony as your life seems to be full of darkness) lol xD
      Your IQ seems to be - (75+85+90) = -250

  • @herbalyzt
    @herbalyzt Před 8 dny

    just understood what @vimoh is short for 😅