Chinmay is not a physicist but says physicists are unreliable
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This Chinmay guy is out there on a mission to debunk everything we know about physics and cosmology. If he doesn't get Nobel in next few years I'll be highly disappointed.
😂😂
Yeah 😂
That upgrade is not even worth the money vro
Bet he'll win a Nobel prize for that.
B M Hegde of Physics 😂
Chinmay felt so secure when Vimoh said Islam is also oppressive. This is basically what most of the "Hindu Atheists" want to hear. Atheism for people like Chinmay is all about Islamophobia.
I have studied history from Age of Empires and now I am a Historian 😂 Don't dare challenge me, I know how heavy cavalry upgrades into Paladins. 😂
Only if you want to waste gold. Don't get Paladins; get arbalests and halberdiers instead
Fućk you man stop spreading propaganda.
Age of empires is real history.
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😂😂😂wow, didnt expect to see someone who knows about aoe here.
And hey i also know that u can hit and run 100 men ar arms with 6 crossbowman,guess thats how mediveal armies worked .I am off to argue with every historian on how what they think about mediveal history is wrong
Bowmen are nerfed fyi
I dont think he felt secure. I think he was disappointed. That was his only comeback.
I am an actual physicist, and I can say that this Chinmay guy is a person who has read something from somewhere that agrees with his worldview and accepts it as an ultimate truth.
But are you from an Ivy League college or from IIT in India? Because it seems according to Chinmay that is where ‘real’ physicists are from.😂
He's just a classic upper cast Hindu. Had wealthy parents, was privileged from birth, was good at memorising stuff and went through our education system smoothy and since he faced no problems in Hinduism, he feels that this is the best religion in the world, he is conveniently an atheist not because he questioned his beliefs but because he doesn't need God, when someone probe him about bitter ground realities of his religion, he can easily point to his scriptures which are vague enough to mean anything they want and can dodge the question and his delusion stays maintained.
He's not an atheist. He was trying hard to sway the emphasis to some physicists being religious and the same whataboutism to turn the attention away from hinduism. He is religious, he simply understands that in the rational world your credibility goes down if you depend on make-believe too much so he has assumed the identity of an atheist to double up as a trojan horse in atheistic discourse where he'll ascertain what we don't know about science (bcz obviously no one knows everything), purposely ask us questions on that to give an impression that we clueless as a way of insulting our intelligence and establishing some superiority for public entertainment. Turn rational conversations into some kind of reality tv.
First of all Upper caste people dont have smooth journey in Indian education system.
And obviously he is stupid 🤣he said he studied all cosmology models....
I think he is lowercaste slave, who used to polish upper caste's shoes .
Physicist by training here, I am just amazed how these guys spout these stuff so nonchalantly. If you actually meet hotshot physicists of their fields, they are always very careful not to make blanket assertions. Indeed one of the few things my PhD supervisor always told me was that science was always evolving and growing and the stupidest thing one can do is to be sure that ones view of the world is the "correct" one. I know people who have papers in cosmology who have studied the stuff for years in reputed institutions (Indian and abroad) who would balk at the sentence "i have studied all the models of cosmology". Insane!
I agree with you. I am a mathematician. But unfortunately there are too many people who are very sure about their world view. Science can only be learnt as you know only by doing it.
i think u guys are targetting him for being in the minority. Bullying him for no good .. I dint hear him say anything specific about how the universe came into existence except that a few of the theories were more appealling to him .... he said big bang was not an appealing theory .. so does he not have the right to have a different opinion on what is just a theory and not a fact.
We must be kind enough to hear everyone out before getting judgemental about his stand
Chinmay there is thing called Dunning-Kruger effect.
Bro can you please tell me what’s that effect?
@@user-hl9jq8iz4i noob have more confidence in their subject than experts
@@chickenlover42 😂 oh accha
The Dunning-Kruger effect happens when people who don't know much about something think they know a lot, and people who are really good at something think they're not that special.
Absolutely correct....
Vimoh: Lets not get into describing religion…
Chinmay: (starts describing religion)
Vimoh: Lets talk like adults.
Chinmay: Lets talk like Children.
And then this guy has the audacity to say “Now we are on the same page.”
At 5:40, Chinmay complains that Vimoh does not talk (much) Islam or Christianity.
I would like to know whether Chinmay goes to CZcams Channels such as the Atheist Experience and Rationality Rules, or to channels like The Apostate Prophet and Abdullah Sameer and asks them why they talk almost exclusively about Christianity and Islam, but not about Hinduism (SO-CALLED Sanatana Dharma).
Hindutva goons
Did i hear him say "condom mechanics " 11:12!
Oh man....what sharp ears you've😂
Haa 😂😂😂 yeah it's a mistake but condom mechanics, sounds hilarious lol 😂
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Me too😂😂
Same😂😂😂
I heard that Chinmay said 'yes I'm a physicist, i study 'condom mechanics '😂😂😂😂
Vimoh this interview is one of the funniest things I've watched all week. You going "what??" every time he bullshits is legendary
Hindus (SO-CALLED Sanatana Dharmists) INTENTIONALLY use the word 'dharma' to mean whatever they want it to mean in a particular conversation.
They do this so that they can expediently use whichever meaning they find useful in any given context.
A similar thing they do with their claims such as "Hindu Swarga is not the same as Christian heaven" (courtesy, charlatans like Rajiv Malhotra), as though just because Hindu Swarga is different from Christian Heaven, it demonstrates that Hindu Swarga actually exists.
Man create a yt channel you’re explaining really good 👏
@@Saitama..123
"Man create a yt channel you’re explaining really good 👏"
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Thank you for the compliment.
The question is not Hindu Heaven exists or not The question is What is the Ultimate Goal of Dharmic Religions .. the Ultimate Goal is Mukthi or Moskha... Hindu Heaven and Hell are Just Metaphorical...
Aapke patience ko naman 🙏
I'm feeling second hand embarrassment for this caller. Ughh
Growing up in Pune, I’ve met so many guys like Chinmay, arrogant with only rote learning credentials to back them up
This is embarassment. I think he is not from STEM field either.
Its irrelevant, even people with Phds in physics are capable of talking nonsense like this, I have met several, religious people keep aside everything they have studied when they are not in their professional role and revert back to their hard core irrational beliefs
@@user-hh5hs3zr5b I agree,I think vimoh should not ask whether someone is professional in that field or not,there are many professional people who are also very irrational and ignorant.
@@shreedharlohar9306 he asked him if he is a physicist to know that if he has a certain knowledge and backing in the field to claim that everything comes from a singularity
11:55 this was a exact conversation in between Sam harris and dipak Chopra 🤣🤣
Man I would love to have Vimoh's patience level. It would help me so much in life
Worst caller I have ever heard
Chinmay has a belief system, if he finds anything that corroborates that belief he proceeds to add that to his dictionary and conveniently ignores the rest that opposes his beliefs.. This is representative of rigid thinking that limits his ability to perceive reality as it is and instead leads him to perceive the world in a way that conforms to his beliefs.
Love Vimoh's clarity of thought to repeatedly stop him from straying on random thoughts and holding on to particular words and broad definitions.
Did Chinmay understand the common consensus?
How did you tolerate him for so long😂😂😂😂accha hua naam pata chal gaya now we can avoid him kabhi mila toh🙌
Kudos to Vimoh for withstanding this physicist-ish piece of S. I'd have melted with rage.
I literally banged my head on the wall😅
Thumbnail ke liye 10 Mei se 10 for sure 🍻
That caller was from the highest of the horses I have ever seen.
i wonder what stopped chinmay from becoming a physicist..
himself
@@swastiksharma23 and 'condom mechanics' I guess
This video is pure gold. I watched it twice rn. The level of patience vimoh has is commendable 15:53
As a physics student, I think one does not have to be a physicist formally to speak about it, a formal degree does not necessarily mean someone knows about it either considering how bad our system is, and it is certainly possible to learn physics on your own. But yeah this guy is talking nonsense I think. also to be a materialist one doesn't need to have all the answers, one can be a materialist and still not know how matter came into being its perfectly reasonable in my opinion
Yeah i think with basic study we can learn or say what other scientists agree on or have general consensus about. But unless and until you are actively involved in specific field, its absurd to make claims that lie beyond the current understanding. Even in science there are limits to which something can be hypothesised beyond current knowledge.
@@warrior_of_liberation definitely but that is only those who do active research in that field, simply having a degree doesn't really make one qualified from my interaction with degree holders, as compared to that a laymen who is sufficiently interested and have trained himself/herself can study the results of research with or without degree
@@user-hh5hs3zr5b True. Degree is just a medium to know whether someone has knowledge in certain field, but it doesn't make them an authority about the knowledge of that field or that his words or ideas about the same shouldn't be challenged. Thats the beauty of science, anybody can question any idea on valid and reasonable grounds.
Why the professional credentials are asked is, it's unlikely that a professional physicist will use jargon to explain something and importantly they would be very careful on the thoughts they are expressing to avoid being ridiculed at some illogical ideas
@@ketannahar626 it is supposed to be unlikely in an ideal world but many do this
our Hinduism is not religion, it is dharma. It sounds like Indians drink jal and Europeans water. Om shanti
Mann, I’d like to see this Chinmay guy’s face once and get a good laugh . 😂😂
Yeh Sab Mere Sar Ke Upar se Gaya 😅 I clapped for your honesty Sir 😊
Wow, complete diffrent side of you Vimoh !! Glad to see it. The level of patient you have is unreal to me :D
11:55 CHINMAY BRUHHH.... IV LEAGUE EDUCATION SAB NAALE MEI BEH GAYA TUMHARA IDHAR XDXD
Your patience is immeasurable.
Look at the arrogance of this fellow. Despite not being able to support his own ideas he ends the conversation with suggestions on how others should improve.
Now I know who you were talking about 😊
Jeez he was so butthurt over being called out, and now he got called out again.
Most scientists agree that the axis of evil is an anomaly, but doesn't mean an earth centric universe in amy way
The amount of logical fallacies of this caller are enough to write textbook...
I'm new here, is this like a members only engagement Vimoh does?
22:55 HC Verma is physicist ,he has CZcams channel, he teach physics for free, he also do live streams
Isn't HC Verma retired?
@@battlerushiromiya651 yes he is retired
@@battlerushiromiya651 so what?
@@battlerushiromiya651retire hone see bhul jate hai kya log .....ye kaun sa logic hai
Always ask them for peer reviewed papers! If they claim that so and so happened. Ask them for a peer reviewed paper, if there are none then its all fancy opinion!
A very important point that people like Chinmay seem to misunderstand is how scientific method actually works.
If something is unknown doesn't mean it's unknowable. Scientific knowledge of incremental in nature depending on the incoming data.
And what is not known or properly understood at present is clearly defined with a big question mark art the end of it.
Science doesn't make up answers. It waits for the data. That question mark is it's bigger strength.
You can't 😂 called you Physicist just because you read books by Physicist even not only you got degree in physics..
A GREATEST Scientist said:- Don't call yourself a scientist untill you discovered anything else .❤
I like how he uses words like "arrogant" (17:07) when describing people he doesn't agree with it. There is an underlying hatred he has for people who think differently from him. The arrogance he shows is so off the charts, dude doesn't even answer a single question in a proper way.
I think this chinmay guy is secret zakir nayak fanboi, he doesn't understand what theory really means, big bang theory is widely accepted with huge evidence to support it, but no one can discard it without extraordinary evidence against it, and not this chinmay guys, a hypothesis which he also didn't know.
Chinmay is a pathological liar or what...
I do not mean to make anyone feel bad, but this is the funniest thing i've watched in a long time
I like how you dealt with his nonsensical sophistry and shut him down. But it was still sort of a waste of 24 minutes of your life and he'll probably waste years of his and others. He is a product of his environment. When you grow up in such higher income group environments detached from ground realities and the everyday issues of common people and have never had much experience with it, this is what you become. He'll only change with some dhakkas in his life or maybe never if that does not happen.
The guy sounds super arrogant
people get their sentiments hurt and then come on live stream to have a debate. amazing.
In 2015, there was no consensus on the nature of this and other observed anomalies[19] and their statistical significance is unclear. For example, a study that includes the Planck mission results shows how masking techniques could introduce errors that when taken into account can render several anomalies, including the axis of evil, not statistically significant.[20] A 2016 study compared isotropic and anisotropic cosmological models against WMAP and Planck data and found no evidence for anisotropy.
pura kisi ko nehi parna hai but baako baako
A small story...a very small story of a man-child and his Ivy League education. This man-child on his wanderings to gather Ivy league knowledge travelled far and wide, until he met up with someone called David Dunning. He was an old man, wise and perceptive, with a Phd from Stanford no less. But it took far more to satisfy our man-child. Our princess would only be satisfied with Ivy League. Ivy League or bust was his motto. So poor David, Stanford only that he was, asked him to meet someone else. A certain Justin Kruger who indeed had an Ivy League Phd from Cornell this time. So our prima donna most happily meets Justin Kruger and tells him all about himself, of his prospective Ivy League learnings, of his impending earth shattering, ground breaking, paradigm altering, shape shifting, heart stopping breakthrus in knowledge that would make almost every other scientific advancement right from the very first light of civilization look like half sucked lollies in the dirt on a melting hot summer day. And the best part of this was that he claimed he could do the same for subjects he actually did not even have any apparent expertise in! So Kruger in disbelief asks him again.... you mean even the ones you know nothing about? Really?!!!!!!
And he goes ESPECIALLY the ones I know nothing about. So Kruger immediately rings Dunning up. And goes....listen we must get together immediately. We may have something extraordinary here. So Dunning says.....whadya mean (remember he wasn't Ivy League)? So Kruger goes.....look at this laddie (he was dumbing it down for Dunning knowing he didn't have an Ivy League education like him)!!!!!
Have you ever seen anyone, ANYONE who, the lesser and lesser he knew about something was more and more confident about how he was right about the very same thing?
So Dunning goes...you mean A COGNITIVE BIAS IN WHICH PEOPLE WITH LIMITED CONFIDENCE IN A PARTICULAR DOMAIN OVERESTIMATE THEIR CAPABILITIES!!!!!!!??????
And Kruger goes.....Praise the Lord!!! We found Ivy League Gold!!!!! And that's how was the Dunning Kruger Effect born.
It is funny when somebody criticises Hinduism their immediate retort is mulle, ricebag convert etc. Chimnay was trying to label Vimoh somewhat in that category. Failed miserably😭😭
I don't think anybody can win an argument against an Atheist😂😂
Wow Vimoh Bhau kia roast kia hain !
How to participate in a conversation with Vimoh
I know I am so late to comment on this video. I just watched and found out that Chinmay just believe in Indian scientists not other countries' scientists. Bro when you survey something globally, you have to visit all countries' scientists.
he be like: so you are saying you don't like BJP that means you like INC.
Vimoh:I don't reason behind big Bang
Chinnu:I also don't know, but I don't agree..but still we are same page..please agreed that sciencist are fools they don't no nothing then we will be on same page.. actually I was checking my English here..
Chinmay has created a wonderful fantasy world.
Superb!! The laugh-out-loud arguments! Exposing these claims is a piece of cake. But seriously, don't underestimate these Hindu fanatics-they'll dive to the floor of the Mariana Trench to prove their point! Just watch out, these enthusiasts have a black belt in mental gymnastics. Theists, they’re all cut from the same cloth, ready to pull a rabbit out of a hat with their ‘che-logic’ to back their claims. I tune into these videos just for a masterclass in ‘What not to do in logical reasoning’. I also watch these videos to collect prime examples of logical fallacies. BTW, the caller here is a comedy gold!
I like the fact that its not about a single religion, its about right and wrong
where do some of these guys come from...
We did get matter out of energy some time ago.
Please bring this guy again sometime just for fun😂
the only thing to learn from this conversation is the last remark from vimoh
And the readon why bing bang is taken as yhe best model is because we havr a lot of evidence backing it up. And we know exactly what happened after yhe big bang until some microseconds after it. Just because it doesn't make sense for some random guy doesn't make it wrong
Vimoh be like :mene iss bande se baat hi kyu ki.time wasted😂
11:12 Hahahahahaha. He used a “D” in Quantum. Hahahahahahahaha. It actually sounds like a prophylactic. Hahahahahahahaha.
LTB FRW both clearly show big bang and expanding universe.
I think difference of opinion could have been dealt with more compassion and softness .. than just judging the guy at the first go .. not letting him express properly his ideas and trying to have a conversation with a debunk mindset ... The caller guy was polite and well read .. We can always question his sources and disagree .. but there has to be a grace in it.
My brother in christ Mr.Chinmayanada actually called it condom physics
Just ask him anything about statistical mechanics, actual physics students went through that hell
Why did the Big Bang happen? This question is so loaded
It's not loaded it just bare layes the epsitemological logjam which superciliciouness laden materialist like you indulge in.
You are the perfect Bro❤❤❤
11:11 condom mechanics?😂
He talked about Ivy league and then quoted IIT, irony is that Ivy league is American thing and doesn't include IIT 😅
"What a completely useless conversation" 😂😂😂
we discover many things that we didnt know how happened same is the universe we have some hypothesis and bigbang has some supporting evidence but that doesn't mean physicist stopped researching and believed in it we are still in the process of finding the how but that doesnt discard the theory completely
BSc in in Entire Physics Science
I feel bad for Chinmay. 11:00 He said he's a physicist and whats his qualifications? He watched some videos and calling himself a physicist is something I couldn't do or imagine even I studied physics (Still am). Man it's okay to argue about something that you thing is right or wrong at your best of knowledge but calling yourself a physicist and disagreeing with well accepted theory is wild. And after that he asked Vimoh if he's the physicist. Like are you serious bro. Whats his point? Argue as much as you want but there is a thing called "Peer Review" he should really read some of those. I'm really amazed by Vimon calmness just hats off sir.
hah are bura maan jayega wo.. IVY wale report kar denge ye video ko
Kaha se kaha chala gay discussion 🤦♂️🤦♂️
chinmay is living in a falsehood 😅
Who is on whose podcast 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What a huge poser. Frankly, he doesn't have a good framework for rational thinking, and he's trying to use Ivy League as a certificate for his intelligence. Honestly, I think he's lying about the Ivy League bit just as he lied about being a physicist.
😂 CONFORMAL CYCLIC COSMOLOGY roger penrose is better enough to explain what he said about. Simply he don't understand this model 😂.
I am a physicist but cosmology is not my field of expertise. So would be cautious make statements as confidently as the guy did. But I have read books published by actual scientists who talk about maths of how they figure out as well as several seminars. It's mind blowing how much stuff we do know about the bigbang. We can go really close in time to the moment it happened. People spend their entire life figuring out small bit of information. They are still scrutinized about it by the rest of the community and their outcomes are tested by other people in several other scientists. It was annoying the way this guy was disregarding all of them for one guy.
I am not sure why Vimoh was not trying to make the argument that if a god made the universe then who made god. If someone is comfortable accepting that a god can exists on its own then why not the universe. Just because there is uncertainty there it doesn't mean that you can just to jump to the conclusion that you like. As Vimoh keeps saying that the burden of proof is on the theist who say a god exists to prove it exists. Every form of argument from the theists kinda relies on the fact that we don't know the answer.
I actually entered the field of physics because I wanted to know the answer for the "Why?" Now, I have concluded that it is just about "how". Which is fine. Because if you know how the rain works and what processes contribute to it you would eliminate the rain god. If you know how babies come into being and how the sex is determined, then you won't pray for babies or ask god for a baby of your preferred gender. With the big bang theory and other physics as well as other fields of science you can basically eliminate all the functions of an omnipotent God and keep it to a "maybe it started the Big Bang" type of god. That god is effectively useless in terms of how the theists use the idea.
24:38 best part of the video!😂
Isn't he going to come next time and say you qre being unfair?
bhaiya yeh toh aap ironically dharmik nikle
well, i am guy with physics degree, and i believe everyone shoud be welcomed to discuss science and join the field, but this guy should be kept away😂
I can't get over how condesending he was with Vimoh
22:23 vimoh bhai nailed it...
Own religious superiority that’s what he’s just talking blah blah 😑
Islam is largely irrelevant for vast number of INDIAN Hindus. Its certainly very relevant for Pakistani, Bangladeshi Hindus, no dispute in that. So basically insistence to talk about Islam by these folks is a way to avoid discussion on Hinduism.
24:38 HAHAHAAHAHAAHAHA!
Why both are not listening, only focusing on proving without proofs.