What do Argentinian Girls think of Western Guys?
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- čas přidán 16. 05. 2024
- What do Argentinian girls really think about western guys? I asked local girls in Buenos Aires questions to find out.
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00:00 - intro
00:41 - 1st interviewee
02:34 - 2nd interviewee
04:11 - 3rd interviewee
05:31 - last interview
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El término “occidental” en este video se refiere a los países, tradicionalmente aceptados como el mundo occidental: Estados Unidos, Canadá; los países de la Unión Europea más Reino Unido, Noruega, Islandia y Suiza; Australia y Nueva Zelanda. No pretende ser negativo, y solo se usa para explorar las diferencias culturales con los argentinos.
No logro entender bien el planteo que haces, se que no lo dices con animo de ofender pero por qué latinoamerica no sería parte del mundo occidental? fuimos colonia de países europeos (como España y Portugal) somos cristianos, capitalistas y tenemos una cosmovisión que viene de la tradición griega y romana, ni hablar de un país como Argentina que tuvo grandes olas inmigratorias desde Europa a principio del siglo XX sobre todo de países como Italia, España, Francia, Alemania, Polonia, Rusia, etc. los cuales dejaron un huella cultural muy notoria en el país.
Las entrevistadas parecían no entender bien la pregunta, respondieron como si les hubieras preguntado por "chicos orientales" en vez de "chicos occidentales". se hubiera entendido más y generado menos "polémica" se les hubieras preguntado por "chicos europeos", de "habla inglesa" o del "primer mundo"
Entonces... paises germanicos?
eso en español es anglosajon..
Dentro de los paises comunmente aceptados como occidentales estan los latinoamericanos, la exclusion de latinoamerica de la estefera occidental es un pensamiento estadounidense mas que todo.
Explícame cuáles diferencias culturales? quiero reírme un poco, por la burrada que va a responder. No existe una única cultura en "Argentina" es un país grande y eso cambia dependiendo la region.
Argentina is a Western nation culturally and geographically. And at least half of its population is genetically European.
El 75 % europeos
Argentina es india como toda latam
Not half, its like 95%, and that is a very good thing
@@alexmazur1281 Why is that a good thing?
@@jean-pierre5221
Cause Europeans are the best race by far
can't wait until we get "WHAT DO AMERICANS THINK OF WESTERN MEN"
😂 I try not to think about them.
Lmao. It's sad though
EZ answer. Americans hate ALL MEN that aren't 9/10 or above. If you're not 9+ then you better be making 100k+ and be willing to spend most of it on HER. Anything besides that and you're "entitled" for simply stating you want companionship. Meanwhile Private Jet Chad can beat them across the face and be forgiven for everything. Need Proof? See: Chris Brown Selling out Madison Square Garden in 2023 hahaha.
its sad because Modern culture Americans never Realize thats its the western culture of the United states thats provides the majority of the food for the modern american
@@franiglesias8983Nah
Hasta hoy no sabía que en Argentina y Latinoamerica eramos orientales.
se refiere a anglosajon, si debería cambiar el nombre..
@@MarYendo-du8dy tampoco a Anglosajón. Anglosajón seriamente, se refiere únicamente a Inglaterra, es un término algo ambiguo y dependiendo el contexto, como en el de la lengua inglesa, se refiere a países que fueron conquistados por el imperio británico, como Usa o Australia, pero el incluyo a la Unión Europea y a países como Islandia, pueblos que no son anglosajones. Canadá tampoco es anglosajona enteramente, tiene una provincia latina, francesa, Québec.
@@lunebleue760 nop. porque los anglosajones (anglo y sajon) pueden ser de dinamarca alemania austria.. lo que el piensa que es occidental para nosotros es anglosajon..
@@lunebleue760 rl lo aclara aca: el término “occidental” en este video se refiere a los países, tradicionalmente aceptados como el mundo occidental: Estados Unidos, Canadá; los países de la Unión Europea más Reino Unido, Noruega, Islandia y Suiza; Australia y Nueva Zelanda. No pretende ser negativo, y solo se usa para explorar las diferencias culturales con los argentinos
@@MarYendo-du8dy Anglosajones estrictamente son solo los Ingleses, no hay otros. Hubo "regiones" de lo que actualmente es Alemania y Dinamarca de dónde "provinieron". Pero ya pasaron siglos, los ingleses modernos son el resultado no solo de Anglosajones, sino otros pueblos que fueron llegando a las islas británicas. Es como decirles "galos" a los franceses. Si hacemos hincapié al término en un contexto moderno, sería todo aquello de origen y cultura inglesa.
Argentina is a western country. It is located in the western hemisphere.
Yeah, right? Last time I checked Latin america didn't moved from the western hemisphere. Europeans and North americans now use the word "western" to separate themselves from the rest of the world.
One more thing, it’s actually the white elite English speaking countries of the world (i.e. UK, Canada, USA, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa) that want to appropriate the term Western and leave all other non English countries out. It seems that’s the extreme that they are taking it to.
Thats not what it means in this context kid
Western europe is also considered west but its in the eastern hemisphere so there goes your logic
Australia and New Zealand are South and East... but still they are in "the West"
Argentina clearly IS a western country.... strange title....
Argentinians are not westerns, they're latinos.
he’s talking about people from countries located in the western world not in the Western Hemisphere
@@andrewalmadaI see you never been to Argentina. It is basically Europe. Western.
@@andrewalmada Argentina is located in the western world lol. WTF are you talking about??
@@andrewalmada Since when is Argentina not part of the Western world? Wtf lmao
Not only is Argentina part of the "west", but considering most of their population has spanish, italian and german roots they're absolutely "western" people themselves.
lol y'all obsessed with us having German roots idk why, you'll even find more people with French blood than German here
@@user-bu8rc8vh5l we hear a lot about nazis escaping to argentina after wwII on the internet. don't know how many though.
@@BobbyJ529 cool
@@BobbyJ529the vast majority of people with german last name in Argentina are jewish though, so there's that
@@user-bu8rc8vh5lwhy "french blood"? A better example is indigenous blood, 60% of argentinians have indigenous ancestry, you only have to go outside of the biggest 3 cities
Como buena nacion oriental que somos, estamos orgullosos de nuestras tradiciones; El asado de hummus y el shawarma con dulce de leche. Nuestros heroes nacionales, como el gran Yusuf Mahmoud Al-Martin, y Mohammed Omar Belgrano, siempre presentes. Un abrazo y un Bismillah enorme para todos mis habibis
Jajajaj Estos gringos no saben nada 😂
It doesn't mean that you're non-Western that you're Arabic. Chinese, Indians, Africans can also be considered to not be part of the West
Que capo jajaja
@@iciici2859tan vivo sos q no ves la ironía del comentario?
inshallah mi hermano
Argentina is one of the most western countries in America. This questions make no sense for me
When they referred to Western culture, it pretty much means central Western Europe white guys,, e.g. British, French, German and Scandinavian - that's about it
*You are referring to the West, including southern European cultures, but they are not
@@Rowlph8888 Ius Romanum is one of the bases of the "western" culture as well as Catholicism, and the catholic church was founded in Rome and the Ius Romanum obviously also Roman creation, the Anglo and northern European barbarians are not the origin of the culture that you call western, you should read a little history.
@@Rowlph8888o right! Those are not “occidentales” because they belong to Asia! Give me a break! Did u pass geography or u never studied the subject?
@@jacquelinea.7575 Sheesh you people are so literal and Idealistic. I'm not Referring to what "Westtern" actually is, or should be, in reality, we are Referring purley to "Percepption" and belief,which is all that matters
My point is Purely that the idea of "Western" has been appropriated by an "archetype character", over the last few decades, Demonstrated "clearly" by 2 of these girls referring exclusively to "English", as opposed to Latin-based and Southern Europpeans. This has mainly happen due to the dominance Of Anglo culture globally,Mainly due to the rise of American culture In the last few generations." Perception no longer Includes "olive skinned Latin-based aesthetic's as Westernised
This has become even more Distinct due to the worshipping of American Culture and the Literall "whiteWashing,"of All 1st world Asian societies- Where there is a focus on "Tall,White, Mainly English Native speaking, Caucasian models and aesthetic generally."
@@Rowlph8888 i am not idealistic. It is not my fault if a bunch ignorant racist appropriate a classification to themselves. Besides what u call latino is so relative! I have friends in my town “wrongly called Latinos who are 100% descent from Russians, Polish and German, just to name a few!
JAJAJAJJAJA las chicas confundieron chicos occidentales con chicos orientales, porque ellos son occidentales
Todas las chicas pensaron que te referías a chicos ORIENTALES.
No, they didn't think that.
Capaz, jajaja
@matiasferrari2709 todas se imaginaron hombres asiáticos 😂😂 ninguna entendió la pregunta
@@TheCarajos es que la pregunta era muy estúpida por eso se confundieron ajjajaja
As an Italian, it has a strange effect on me hearing someone saying "sì". Dante said: "bel Paese là dove il sì suona". Hail to our Argentinian brothers from the "hermoso país donde resuena el sí!"
However, this video also puzzled me: I've never considered Argentinians to be any less western than us.
Y yo me acabo de enterar que estas personas nos consideran orientales 😂 o quién sabe que pero en fin...da igual como nos vean.
ys u r right ....the western boarder gets re drawn all the time ....in the 1st n 2nd wurld war germany was nt considered west ....to me its everything west of Constantinople and any countries colonised by those cuntrys
How exactly could you be any more western than Argentina? You would have to be from Easter Island or Hawaii. Any further than that and your in Russia.
Gringos are stupid like that
Argentina has a certain cultural difference with the rest of Latin American countries. Although it has become more integrated in recent decades, so it has somewhat lost some characteristics that make it "Western"
What do they mean, Western guy? How much farther west can you go from Argentina?
I understand what you mean!
I think for us europeans we normally consider western to mean europe and the united states - but your point is very valid, I will remember it!
@@BtheNomad So Spain, Portugal, France, and Italy aren't considered Western in Europe?
@@guruxara7994 barely :p
@@martinsv9183 "barely", what?, lmfao. They are the ORIGINAL "western" countries, they were part of the fucking western roman empire and speak latin languages, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden and etc weren't.
@@The-wo2lq Northern Europe is more west :) More caucasian.
Solo un yankee puede agarrar a uno de los países mas occidentales de la tierra y decirles "you're not western".
para los yanquis somos todos nazis y no occidentales al mismo tiempo
Tenemos más negros que ellos por eso. jajajja
Soy hispana de los estados unidos y aquí la gente creén que todos somos mexicanos, casi nunca hablan de los otros paises hispanos pero tambien se que mucha gente saben que Argentina esta en el western hemisphere. Hay gente no muy inteligente pero tambien mucha gente que sabe de el mundo.
@@alexander_mottier_9627Eso es mentira, nosotros negros al estilo africano tenemos menos de un 1% en Argentina
@@alexander_mottier_9627 si crees que hay mas negros en argentina que en estados unidos estas en problemas, jaja. viaja un poco y si no tenes plata, agarra un libro que no muerden.
I didn't know Argentina was an Eastern country ..... Maybe someone should buy this people a map and an encyclopedia! Must be either British or from the United States
The so called ''west'' don't consider us latinos and brazillians as part of the west because if they did, they would have to admit that the west isn't perfect and has his own problems.
You miss the point
@@Drymarro You miss how dumb and ignorant the title of the video really is !
Or Asian since they're the ones that are obsessed with "western people" which they usually associate with northern europe.
@@Drymarroyou miss the point buddy. It’s not only a geographical matter, its cultural, religious and genetical. Argentina is about 90% european, its a catholic country and its culture and moral values are the same as any other western country
Argentina is a Western nation, and its population is culturally and traditionally, for the most part, Western.
It isn’t. You can’t just say one country in Latin America is, then leave out the rest of the countries when they were all colonized by Europeans. By that logic, why do Americans still discriminate against Hispanic speakers in the US? Clearly Americans don’t want to associate themselves with us. I’m Hispanic and never considered myself western. If we’re so “western” why do y’all not want us in your country?
argentina no es occidente pa
@@genaromicol7347Yes it is! 🥴
@@shay5839 occidente son los europeos, norteamericanos y los de oceania (australia y nueva zelanda)
@@genaromicol7347The majority of Argentinians ARE European! They have the same culture as the rest of the West. I’m in the United States and have always seen Argentina as a “western country.”
Occidental ?? 🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣...
I m chinese 😱😱🤣🤣🤣👍🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷.. greetings from mar del plata Argentina 🇦🇷..
You mean "Mal del plata" jaja
For those who don't know, Argentina is a small country sandwiched between Uganda and Kazakstan, East of the Ganges River, the people all from East African stock, speak a dialect of Mexican Swedish and they've recently voted to adopt Islam as the national faith. They are not considered part of the Western world because they still drive stick shift cars.
🤡
In England their Polo ponies and Polo players are well known.
They also think the best ever footballer uses his hands with the blessing of a diety to score goals and celebrates with copious amounts of cocaine.
I've been there. It's in between New Zealand and your mom's house.
@@ddub1981 my mom has three houses. One in Wellington that gets used between April and June... Then there is the one in Jarbidge that was the location of the very last stagecoach robbery and it's occupied from July to about the middle of October. Then it's the beach house by Pepperdine above the PCH from November to the end of March. Of course much of the family meets up in Poipu and Koloa for the two weeks around Christmas at the beach area condos.
Nuevo descubrimiento: las personas del primer mundo encontraron una nueva forma de apartar y diferenciarse con latinoamericanos llamandose occidentales y no incluyendonos, a pesar de nosotros ser occidentales geograficamente hablando y tener ciertos rasgos culturales comunes
We are more Western than them. Our culture came from Rome, not from a barbaric German tribe. The sophisticated words in English come from Latin... MOST words in Portuguese and Spanish come from Latin, that's the difference, we have the same religion since the fall of the Roman Empire, they try to disqualify us and distance ourselves from our ancestors in Portugal, Spain, or Italy, who had and whose descendants still have the same languages, same religion, same culture than us. And writting this in English for them to know it, because most of us besides a native language speak English too. The American culture has way more black influences than we have from any other source (African or native), yet that contributions only made our cultures richer, but are still small compared to Iberian contributions, the core of the society is European! No question; the laws, languages, what is taught in schools, i could continue for hours, since a time ago i couldn't tell who was Uruguayan or Spaniard, only the accent helps with that.
@@leonardos2925
It’s funny to me that you are so defensive about this. I, as someone who lives in the U.S. never actually thought of Argentina as non-Western. The real question you should be asking is why the interviewer and the Argentinian girls who answered think this way. Perhaps it is Argentinians who have made this distinction and you should vent your anger and frustration on them.
Si te digo latina, pensas en tu vecina?... Creo que pensaste en una morocha bailando salsa... Los terminos adquieren distintos significados segun la historia y el contexto. No rompas.
@@dougbarker2227 You talk about being "defensive" yet even you acknowledged the non sense in this kind of narrative. I do not have any frustration or anger, maybe that's your defense after i talked about the source of your culture. Deal with that as a funny moment for me, i coudn't be happier, i live in Brazil, with money here you have no excuses to not being happy and enjoy your life, so "frustration" is just an attempt to downplay what i said using an ad hominem argument, but no big deal here about your "accusation", LOL (I'm very good, thank you for being concerned). Also, don't play the "naive" one, you know that the exclusion of Latin America from an term that absolutely include countries like Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay and so on is meant to disqualify their cultures because these countries are less fortunate IN AVERAGE. The point is that it is used as a way to distance these regions from whoever some people want to associate themselves with, like the USA was more "European" or sophisticated, it isn't, our culture is as sophisticated as yours, and some would say way more. So the "European/Western" exclusory mentality deals with that. The mindset of many people work this way, yet you will again pretend being "innocent" and not knowing the reasons for that. I'm a Brazilian descendant of Germans and Portuguese, saw many German cities and other European contributions in a daily basis here and seeing someone saying something so naive is pathetic. Don't worry, i predict ignorance about the region, specially in some places, people just think they don't need to know that. But if you ask for someone in Spain or Portugal they would rapidly agree that Argentina is a Western country, but in some other places there are more cultural differences playing a role in their view.
@@dougbarker2227 The point is that it isn't up to uneducated people to distance ourselves from our brothers in Spain, Portugal and Italy. People who know the countries and cultures are able to talk about the similarities. And again, my point was to contradict the absurd i read, if the part that i talked about "Germanic barbaric tribe" offended you that explains your view, but i wrote that laughing, ignorance is funny for me. The culture in Anglo-Saxon Britain was Romanized at some time in its history, we do not deny that Englishmen are Westerns, because Greco-Roman culture is at the core of the concept, yet are there some random guys and some scholars trying to dissociate people with Latin cultures and languages from that? LOL. Don't worry, this is just funny for me, like any other absurd thing can be as well. If to defend yourself you had to suppose that I was the one "frustrated"... HAHA. I will never be frustrated about anything st*pid people think, i will laugh. Also, what i said was meant to be critic to the uploader of the video (The girls were just repeating his narrative, this is a common cognitive bias), i.e. the reporter, so why are you claiming i targeted anyone else? I know; again we have the offense you took on some of my statements about Germanic and Latin roots, i was too sincere, i do admit, but there's a truth in that that you can't deny... that's why you tried to invert the situation and say that "i was angry", LOL.
Soy Español, osea Europeo, y te puedo asegurar que Argentina también es occidental, no existe debate en esto.
Argentina no es occidental por que es pobre
No it is not
Argentina es racialmente mista . A maioria dos argentinos tem herança indigena. Nao sao ocidentais
@@MWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMWMW yes it is
@@andersoncapa argentina es mas occidental que cualquier otro pais latinoamericano, tanto sanguinea como culturalmente. No lo define solo la sangre.
You should have just said gringos.
Thanks for your comment man! This has been so interesting to discover how Argentinians and Europeans view the term "western" very differently. You may be right, that gringos would have been more accurate - thanks !
@@BtheNomad It's interesting to see how European are just ignorant as Americans. Seriously, go back to school.
@@BtheNomad Dude, stop being stubborn. Just Google 'Western World' and learn. The term does not change on 'views', it's a established world culture based in the roman laws & judeo-christian traditions.
Gringo in Argentina was used to refer to non-Spanish European immigrants who first established agricultural colonies in the country. The word was used for Swiss, German, Polish, Italian and other immigrants,
i would literally fall in love with the first girl! just her voice sounds beautiful and that little laugh is to die for!
Stick to your Jessica's
@@4elovechisheJessica’s? She’s European… notice how she’s not 5’0 ft brown, and thick… She’s obviously of euro descent.
@@jimmythe-gent umm yeah, thats the 50% of Argentinas population basically
Esta chica que entendió "occidental" como "oriental", me hace recordar a un programa humorístico que preguntaba en la calle: "qué haría usted si su hijo fuera heterosexual?", a lo que muchos padres respondían que sus hijos jamás podrían ser así, o que los echarían de la casa.
No entendió occidental como oriental. En Argentina suele usarse el término de "Occidente" para referirse a todo el continente americano y Europa.
@@matiasferrari2709 es que eso es lo correcto solo los analfabetos de usa creen otra cosa xd
aren't these girls "western"? they look pretty much to me
All of them essentially said, "I don't really know what I'm talking about, but I'll tell you my opinion anyway." So, they're like girls everywhere.
haha Ben - you might just be right ;-)
Becouse the question Is bad formulated... Argentina Is western
Y el muchacho entrevistó a un grupo de jovencitas, claro que son como niñas, deben ser todas menores de edad! Obtuvo el permiso de sus padres para difundir su imagen? 🤔
Hubiera preguntado a
una mujer y primero que le hubiesen corregido su error al plantear la pregunta y segundo que hubiera obtenido respuestas más interesantes 😊
Yes, girls brains are like that of little children.
They should not be taken seriously
Nadie en Argentina puede entender correctamente esa pregunta básicamente. Lo que trataron de hacer es responder lo mejor posible.
Bienvenidos a la Argentina oriental. No sé si por la gran influencia asiática, o bien por la influencia eslava, entonces podríamos ser TransArgentina (algo así como Transnitria, pero en América del Sur)
Fuimos conquistados por los Japoneses 😂😂
hahahahaha
LOL... I was so confused at the start.. errr Oeste? haha
I will write this in English for more people who believe in this narrative to understand it: I'm Brazilian and wish you the best in this moment where your country is conquered by Japan and you're forced to speak some other oriental language and your culture is not Western anymore, we will try to rescue you... is this guy on the video a fanfic writer? LOL. Argentina, Brazil, Uruguay... most countries here are Western countries, the "sophisticated" aspects in Germanic languages come from Latin, we speak languages that descend directly from Latin, our religion, culture, genetics... all of that is European in huge amounts. Even black people here in Brazil have great amounts of European DNA, some of them have more Portuguese DNA and still phenotypically look black. So if the USA is a Western country, many South Americans are too. Most of us descend from Roman citizens (Since after the Edict of Caracalla virtually every free person in the Empire was granted Roman citizenship), because most us descend either from the Portuguese, either from the Spanish, either from the Italians (I descend from Germans too, and i'm from southern Brazil), yet we have some people trying to distance ourselves from our origins, from our Latin brethren in Portugal, Spain, Italy...
This guy is spreading elitist rhetoric created by some North Americans/Europeans, and when you have to resort to that... things are not great for you, LOL.
@@leonardos2925 Pienso lo mismo que vos. Saludos
Western? Is Argentina in the East?
A que se refiere cuando dice occidentales?? Que seríamos orientales los argentinos??
Cultura occidental versus ubicación geográfica
se refiere a anglosajon, creo que tiene un problema de conceptos.. (?)
Los Anglosajones debe ser. Yankelandia.
Que no te sorprenda si la educacion en estados unidos esta en decadencia, los esta salcando la economia que formaron por que sino estos paises se mueren de hambre como alguna vez les paso jua jua.
@@MarYendo-du8dy Que le pedis a gente extremadamente ignorante que llama a EEUU "America", a gentes con origenes germanicos y/o escandinavos "Caucasicos" y a mestizos amerindios "Hispanics"
La gente de EEUU no puede ubicar un país en el mapa, sólo el de ellos.
Los argentinos son tan occidetales como cualquier otro europeo o norteamericano. Hablan una lengua de origen europea, son culturalmente cristoanos, tienen cultura, literatura similar a la europea y ademas la mayoria son descendientes de europeos, esp especialmente italianos y españoles. Lo mismo podria aplicarse al resto de hispanos.
¡Es muy interesante que este video muestre que argentinos y europeos entienden el término "occidental" de manera diferente!
¿Has experimentado alguna diferencia cultural entre argentina y europa?
Jajajaja
@@BtheNomad vos sos el que lo usa mal
@@BtheNomad
"¡Es muy interesante que este video muestre que argentinos y europeos entienden el término "occidental" de manera diferente!"
Eso es pura ignorancia porque Latinoamerica siempre fue parte del mundo occidental. Si países americanos con gente e idioma europeos no son occidentales, luego los EEUU no son occidentales.
Hablas como si fuera una creencia universal entre los europeos que los latinoamericanos, y los argentinos en particular, no son occidentales, pero ¿dónde está tu fuente para tal afirmación? Y sin importar cuántos lo compartan, tu punto de vista no es nada más que ignorante. No tiene base en la geografía, la historia o la lógica.
Un gaucho que baila malambo, súper occidental, fieles del gauchito Gil, re occidental. Kollas de jujuy haciendo ofrendas a la pachamama, re occidental. Argentina no es capital federal y las ciudades blancas y grandes como Rosario,La Plata etc.
this whole question is idiotic. I hate to tell you but Argentina is a Western nation. Of course, Argentinian girls and guys will be different from Americans or Brits or French. On the other hand, Argentinians are also different from people from Ecuador and Puerto Rico. This a cultural difference, not a West vs Latin or east difference
how can argentine people be different from "americans" since argentina is in america?
@@doctorsocolinsky3116 you know very well I meant people from the US. Outside of Argentina and some other South American countries,everyone knows Americans means US. This Argentinian BS of calling us North Americans feels like they have a inferiority complex. Sure everyone from Canada to Argentina are part of the American continents , but call a Canadian an American and they will think u are crazy . Last one I checked America is the the USA name . Last time I checked, República Argentina doesn’t include America in its name
@@danielh6015 everything I read is that you think america is a country and not a continent, stop using your phone to type nonsense and use google maps.
@@doctorsocolinsky3116 Fine, you win So when the French or the English say Americans, no one knows who they are talking about. I just talked to an Israeli and i asked him what he thought about Americans and America and he was confused about who I was talking about. Yes, we all know there is North America, Central and South America. And yet Argentinians seem to be confused when someone says Americans. Well not really, they know exactly who people are talking about but they love to bring up " we also live in the Americas" People from Argentina are Argentinians and not Americans. They happen to live in the South American continent.
@@danielh6015 yes kid we're not americans because u say it, go have your chocolate milk now
I grew up in Orlando, Florida, near Disney World, and every year Argentinian girls came to visit Disney on vacation in large groups and they were much more extroverted and outgoing than American girls. I found this out in 1993, a few months before I turned 18, I was hanging out in Downtown Orlando with my friend, when a bunch of Argentinian girls came up to us, they acted like we were celebrities, they were taking photos with us and wanting us to eat with them and some of them even would kiss us on the cheeks. I remember thinking I wish I lived in Argentina!
We didn't know any Spanish, so their chaperones, that could speak some English tried to interpret, but they told us where their hotel was and wanted us to go swimming, but the hotel security wouldn't let us in (what a bummer) and since we didn't have cell phones or internet back then, it was the last we saw of them 😪.
Back then I guess it was safer but these days people in Argentina tend to have "modern" ideologies embedded in their minds, it's much more common to see this there than in other parts of South America. If you are smart, you will know that it is risky for you to invest in women like that.
Awesome story man - sounds like you need to visit Argentina and experience the culture here!
The argentinean girl go to disney for their sweet 15's
@@claudiotepedino5753 Sounds about right, I was 17, so naturally I would find girls 2-3 years younger attractive at that age. 🤣
@@mikeef747retty creepy… as a 20 year old I’d never date someone your age. You aren’t young anymore, move on.
I mean, I'm European.
I'd say Argentina is as much a western country as my own.
The average American view of "the West" is rather simplistic. Anything that is not North America or the European Union is not the West. And anything that is Hispanic America is Mexico.
So if you rotate the map 90 degrees anti clockwise, Argentina is an eastern country 👁️👄👁️
Buenos Aires is technically eastern Argentina, so a western man would be from Rosario
@@juanvazquezdecoronado9020 Rosario? Literalmente Santa Fe queda ARRIBA de Bs As...
Sería un mendocino, casi Cordillera
Eu realmente não entendi o que ele quis dizer com "Ocidentais". Ele ainda tentou explicar no comentário dele porém não fez o menor sentido. Mundo ocidental é uma questão inteiramente geográfica e técnica, não sobre tradição ou aceitação, bem xenofóbico e ultrapassado esse pensamento.
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el mundo occidental se refiere a la cultura occidental
USA canada argentina y brasil tienen cultura occidental
Argentina es etnicamente y culturalmente "occidental", desde su cultura, historia y ademas es una nacion cristiana catolica. Buenos Aires actualmente aparenta ser más occidental que ciudades como Paris o Nueva York (donde hay grandes comunidades de africanos, musulmanes y asiaticos) y no lo digo para ser racista, pero es una realidad. Paris está poblada de gente "no francesa", "no occidental", desde hace décadas. Deberias reeveer tus "conceptos" y adaptarlos a estos tiempos.
y en argentina esta lleno de bolitas y marrones, es lo mismo
Totalmente de acuerdo contigo. Cualquier persona con un minimo de cultura sabe que Argentina es el Occidente.
@@santigetaz8879 no lo es, para ser occidente tienes que estar en la otan. Tiene sus "pinceladas" occidentales pero hasta ahi
@@genafran7651 entonces países como Austria, Suiza o Irlanda por no pertenecer a la otan que son culturalmente hablando? medio oriente o Europa del este ? En el vídeo se hace claramente mención a la cultura occidental.. no se que tiene que ver eso con la OTAN.🤔🤔
@@santigetaz8879 la otan es occidente. Aparte de que esos paises son literalmente EUROPEOS y la gran mayoria tienen pelo rubio y ojos claros. No se que tiene que argentina no sea occidente, no habria que hacerse tanto problema por eso
How is Argentina not western?
They do not wear cowboy hats...actually some of them do. Sorry, I can't help you.
It’s more western than a lot of these countries that have been invaded by aliens lol
South america, poor, high crime, hispanic... and so on
@@extrarradioghettoHispanic doesn’t mean non western you idiot 😂
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Argentina way safer than usa. Heck, most states (individually) are more violent than Argentina 😂.
Los anglosajones tratando de explicar que países colonizados recientemente como Nueva Zelanda o Australia son occidentales, sin embargo los hispanos no, cuándo España es más europea que el Reino Unido, tiene más conexión histórica con otros países, y un imperio el doble de antiguo. Lo siento, Argentina es MUCHO MÁS OCCIDENTAL que Vancouver, dónde apenas hay occidentales.
¿A qué diablos llaman Occidentales estás argentinas?
América (Norte y Sur) es la parte más Occidental del mundo.
Y si hablamos de Europa, España y Portugal son los países más occidentales. Y la cultura latinoamericana es mucho más parecida a la occidental de Europa que a la de Asia, África, u Oceanía.
La pregunta no tiene ningún sentido.
El planeta es una bola. Siempre hay mas por la izquierda que sera mas ocidentale.
La confusion la genero el entrevistador. En mi opinion las chicas no entendieron a que nacionalidades se referia, solo fueron gentiles.
El sentido de discriminar
Ella no entendieron a que se refería el como nosotros tampoco a que le llaman ellos occidental.
Last time a checked Argentina was in the western hemisphere
so is Senegal
Que ignorancia la de Francia, ahora somos orientales o qué carajos?
Segun los yankes Eramos LATINOS .. despues LATIN-X . Y AHORA SUR-ORIENTALES me parece jajaj
La ignorancia es mucha en el reyno anglosajon.
Lo peor de todo es que los suramericanos ACEPTEMOS a que nos digan Orientales. Asi como paso con lo de LATINOAMERICANO.
@@ivantompson2235 Exacto, somos americanos, nos dicen latinos para apropiarse el término americano para ellos sólos.
Somos de América latina, es así.
Argentinian guy living in Scandinavia. The way these girls interpreted Wester was as "European" and that's why they referred at "them" being maybe more cold. This is just a insignificant difference.
Western culture are all cultures descended or strong influenced of Rom Christian empire which had Latin culture, specifically born in the south of Europe around the Mediterranean Sea. Countries like Italy, Spain, hole America, hole Europe, Australia etc...
Thanks for the insight! What are some cultural differences for you, between Scandinavia and Argentina?
@@BtheNomad I can tell you the difference between UK/Anglo cultures and Argentina (but not Scandinavia) as I know both countries. Both like to get drunk and party but UK needs more alcohol to have a good time and Argentine parties generally start and end later. UK is based around pub culture and socialising in a pub with friends and beers, Argentine culture is socialising in people's houses with mate. In UK maybe we do this with tea or coffee also. There are actually a lot of similarities between UK and Argentina, the sarcastic humour can be similar, the sports culture (Football, Rugby, Hockey), music/rock culture (rock nacional, UK indie/rock), la merienda/afternoon tea. Argentinians are welcoming and friendly, UK is also welcoming and friendly but maybe in a more reserved way. In the UK people value privacy and independence more than Argentines. Argentinians stick their noses in neighbours and friends business whereas UK tends to be 'live and let live' mentality. In the UK people will have big issues if you are not being civically minded like throwing rubbish in the street, making a lot of noise that disturbs neighbours etc....Argentinan culture is not as civic minded and despite being generally more sociable with larger groups of friends and family Argentines are actually more anti-social and less respectful to people outside their close social circles. I can go on....😄
@@aldozilli1293 100% on point.
@@BtheNomad Without being an expert and putting aside the obvious I guess the problem is that the differences in culture will not be related to a core of Western specific beliefs. Cultures of Scandinavia and Argentina are different, but one is not more Western than the other, unless you define Western as being like Scandinavians. The culture in Argentina has a massive influence from the Catholic Church, which is at the core of Western civilization, you could not have it without the Church. But then the terms lose any real meaning. Scandinavians are for example mainly nonreligious. Argentina i think the situation is the reverse. Most people are mildly religious, an intense religious minority and also a nonreligious minority. Argentina has not been affected much by the Protestant reformation, even though Evangelical movements linked to US and Brazilian denominations are growing now. Family culture seems to be more important in Argentina than in Scandinavia. As previously said people in Argentina socialise a lot at their homes, in Scandinavia seems to be more in public places. Differences of wealth also have cultural impacts, in expectations and activities enjoyed. Public morality seems to be much stronger in Scandinavian countires, (less corruption, etc.) Personal ideas of values are also different, However notice that none of these differences imply a Western culture or not. If you seek a more "scientistic" comparison oriented to business, you can check this website. I think they codify a lot prejudices but at least is quantitative and can be argued with facts. In this comparison for instance in some instances Argentines are more like Swedes than the Portuguese. And they avoid generalisations like Western that do not mean much in issues of culture. Or the Japanese are more similar to Germans than Americans are. www.thtconsulting.com/culture-factory/culture-explore/compare-countries/
No one of the said she dated a foreign Uruguayan another one said she met collobian men so to the women they were thinking of Latin America too.
I love their energy ❤
a country where half of the population is form italian origin is not occidental... ok hahahahaha
Los argentinos son occidentales!
Dude we are also westeners…
Thanks for your comment man! This has been so interesting to discover how Argentinians and Europeans view the term "western" very differently. I hope you enjoyed the video nonetheless !
@@BtheNomad You should've said european/american men.
02:58 For anyone curious - American guys are not typically shy or reserved, they're just that way around women because American women can often be very hostile and are quite narcissistic. I dated a girl from Peru for a few months and it took me a while to unlearn that behavior and to just relax around her and her friends. SA women seem so much more genuine than NA women.
she clearly thought she was being asked about ORIENTAL guys. however, a lot of anglos do seem rigid or reserved, blaming women for it is a bad excuse
Peru here… unfortunately yes, they tend to be narcissistic, but thats mostly all Latin America.
Shoot, I would start my life over in Argentina for that first interviewee
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Los únicos orientales de Sudamérica son los Uruguayos! 😂
Jajajajja
Argentina is as western as it gets plus the majority are of 🇪🇸🇮🇹🇩🇪 origin
Most argentinian are mixed whit amerindians . Even messi grandmother is amerindian
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@@andersoncapamessi is 100% European, check his wikipedia. why are you obsessed with exaggerating Argentinas native population? you’re bugged out of your mind
@@Alex-hq6rhHay muchos latinos a los que les molesta que Argentina sea un pais con ascendencia europea y poblacion mayoritariamente blanca, nose porque les molesta tanto y empiezan a mentir.
@@davidgarcia5593Lo de origen indigena es erroneo, la poblacion que hizo crecer a argentina es la europea, y es la predominante, actualmente argentina estuvo recibiendo muchos inmigrantes latinos (Paraguay, Bolivia, Perú, Colombia, Venezuela, etc) pero el origen predominante es el italiano, español, frances, aleman, ruso. La poblacion indigena argentina es diminuta. De hecho tenemos mas origen aleman que indigena, ya que los indigenas en argentina nunca fueron mayoria, ni siquiera la mitad de la poblacion.
Is Argentina in the east? Is it an oriental country? Is it close to Myanmar?
its the global south, like africa or india
Argentinians are western. The majority of them are a mix of Spaniard and Italian.
6:03 she said when she was going to "boliche" which according to my research means "bowling", is it a mistranslation, is it Argentine slang for nightclub or am I just hearing it wrong? any help would be greatly appreciated
It is indeed the argentinian name for nightclubs !
Anglo barbarians appropriated the concept of western culture even though they are not catholic and do not speak a latin based language lol
E os gregos e romanos eram catolicos ?😅
Exatcly. We descend from Roman subjects, we speak a Latin-derived language, and have the same religion the Empire had when it fell, the most sophisticated words in English are derived from Latin, yet our languages are entirely born from that language and received foreign influences the same way English received, they speak words from Malay, from Japanese, from Spanish, from French... same thing. Yet we don't descend from one the last peoples in Europe to christianize and civilize itselft, which were barbaric until they invaded post-Roman Britain.
@@andersoncapa Eram, se tu não sabe disso precisa voltar pra escola. Depois de Constantino no século IV o império passou á ser cristão e depois católico, quando Roma caiu ela era católica. Essa religião não veio de nenhum outro lugar senão de Roma, se os romanos não tivessem adotado ela, a mesma não teria se espalhado tanto. Só depois de ser aceitável aos antigos pagãos romanos é que ela se estabeleceu. E vale lembrar que os pagãos deixaram várias influências, a cultura não mudou muito também, era o mesmo povo; que só escolheu outra religião.
true
Barbarians lol. Literally the most successful countries and all prominent modern inventions are made by anglos. While Latin colonies are all 3rd world dumps with world record murder rates.
This was so funny to watch!
We are more Western than them. Our culture came from Rome, not from a barbaric German tribe. The sophisticated words in English come from Latin... MOST words in Portuguese and Spanish come from Latin, that's the difference, we have the same religion since the fall of the Roman Empire, they try to disqualify us and distance ourselves from our ancestors in Portugal, Spain, or Italy, who had and whose descendants still have the same languages, same religion, same culture than us. And writting this in English for them to know it, because most of us besides a native language speak English too. The American culture has way more black influences than we have from any other source (African or native), yet that contributions only made our cultures richer, but are still small compared to Iberian contributions, the core of the society is European! No question; the laws, languages, what is taught in schools, i could continue for hours, since a time ago i couldn't tell who was Uruguayan or Spaniard, only the accent helps with that.
so why you write this comment in English
Argentinians are in fact Europeans by blood. What a weird video. Argentina is not Ghana.
Not true. There are plenty of mestizos.
Latin America is in the western hemisphere, say european men
Hey Claudio - I think this video really showed that europeans and people from latin america view the term "western" very differently !
But true, european would indeed have been very accurate !
@@BtheNomad its ok man
Becouse its stupid... You talk to people whose grandarents are from europe... They dont ger the question
@@BtheNomad según el meridiano de greenwich Argentina es occidente y gran parte de Europa es oriente
wait, Argentina is westerner than Europe. WTF!
Would love to see more content on argentine social culture!
Thanks! I will upload more content from Argentina and Brazil soon - make sure to subscribe so you don't miss it!
Bonjour de France, amis argentins ! Dont forget our languages are both latin , so no many problems for communication :) Mon grand-père est allé à Buenos Aires en 1938 , il disait "Buenos Aires, belle et élégante" !
Yes we have problems mon ami. Por exemplo: Consegue entender o Português? Essa é a minha língua materna. Je peux comprendre un peu le français.
@@Henri-Gaudard Je comprends :) ! Traduction en Français de votre phrase "Pouvez-vous comprendre le Portugais ? C'est ma langue maternelle". C'est très proche :)! Grâce aux Romains :)!
@@CALZOLA en caso de Je comprends en español es yo comprendo y en portugues se puede traducir como eu comprendo. Si vous y réfléchissez, ils sont très similaires mais il est obligatoire d’apprendre l’anglais, du moins ici en Argentine.
hablen bien loco, soy argentino y no entendi nada@@jonhjackson7224
@@CALZOLA hay un poco de la cultura francesa acá en Argentina, no se que más habrá contado tu abuelo sobre lo que vio en esa época sería internarse haberlo escuchado.
Argentina is western because it's another version of spain.
Definitely a mix of Italy and Spain
Argetina is another version of Spain but with 50x times more crime and 10 times poorer, spain is not cannonicaly western to begin with, spain has been western for 40 years, argentina is far from being western at least for the next 50 yearrs
it sounds very strange for an argentine to be called a western boy, argentina is not in asia, we are not oriental, culturally we are western.
This was a very interesting video, thanks for making it!
Los Argentinos son occidentales al igual que los demás países latinoamericanos - el Español es un idioma accidental!
La realidad es que a America Latina no la consideran parte de Occidente. Por mí está bien, hoy Occidente no es ejemplo de nada
@@miriamlevin Triste
Nonsense this video! the Argentinians as white many latin Americans see themselves as western .
We don’t see ourselves as westeners, we are westeners.
@@1dering11 I know Argentines are westeners only responding to this video and it's premise of argentines see themselves as westeners
@@marisolmanzano2041 ohh got it!
We are... please study geography
Thanks for your comment man! This has been so interesting to discover how Argentinians and Europeans view the term "western" very differently. I hope you enjoyed the video nonetheless !
Western guy? West from Argentina is Chile..... and China? Or Japan? What a stupid question, all these girls are "Westeners". What do you mean by Westener????? Most these girls have European ancestry.
i agree - however I think there are interesting cultural differences between argentina and other countries in Europe for instance.
@@BtheNomadYes, more money and less money. Maybe you should ask that ha ha.
Poor framing. Porteños are extremely western by ethnic, cultural, linguistic, and religious standards. You should have asked what they thought of Europeans
WTF Argentina is western.
Western civilization fundamentally originated from Greco-Roman philosophy, Judeo-Christian values, a Latin alphabet and a Gregorian Calendar!!!! So, how come none of the Latin American countries fall under the 'Western' category??!!!
It's quite evident that historically, Latin America had a larger influence of the above mentioned than "Western" countries such as the U.S., NZ, Canada, Iceland among others.
Nao existe tal coisa como valores "judaicos cristaos" , e nao os valores cristao NAO sao valores ocidentais .
Argentinos sao mestiços . Nao sao brancos/ ocidentais
The cultures you are Talking abou were Ancient and backward by modern standards, definitely influential on the foundation, but also on early to late mediaeval culture, and not so influential in the modern world as you think. What was considered revolutionary from them at the time, it now seems archaic and barbaric, e.g. They were slave states and total ruling autocracies, Where a king, or Emperor could hijack anyone's wealth for a random war unilaterally, including Greece and Rome.The modern world was shaped by Anglo culture, mainly starting from modern free Political, legal and economic structures which Were all heavily influenced by Parliamentary democracy, Anglo-Saxon common law (1041),the Magna Carta (1215) and the English Bill of rights (1689). This was the 1st step into more than simply a single elite group ruling everything, with all other citizens in the population working 14 hours a day to create value for them. The reason why you have free time and can build personal wealth and discuss things freely on the Internet, is entirely due to some English culture.Even Voltaire said when running away from backward French Intolerant, tyrannical culture 1726, in His books and letters to friends - "I learned to think in England." "England Is the land of Liberty" and "England Taught Europe how to think." Chris Hall, who teaches the genealogy of the American constitution, traces the structure of the Republic back to Anglo-Saxon community principles, who had a loosely it network of communities with a king having very limited power, until the Normans imposed their backward total Autocratic structure (NOT Greek or Roman so-called" Republican principles, which gave freedom to a very small group)
*Modern society and the people in different parts of the world clearly see the modern world through the eyes of industrialised, urban mentality, which was exclusively developed by English culture. if English entrepreneurs and engineers had not been given the freedom to give consultations, facilitating sophisticated technology transfer in the early to mid-19th-century,In return for capitaal payment, it would have taken another century for other European nations to begin to induustrialise and this mentality here. Videos like these and mostly all Asian nations, who see "Westerner" as tall white, post-industrial Cultures, not Latin culture
@@Rowlph8888 LOL Sure lad
@@durandal1909 Lall, You're showing your ignorance…even recent Japanese study by the trade and industry department indicated that 50% of modern inventions come from Britain..Try actually disputing anything I said. Literally try checking any industry, or genre, except feed and art, e.g. the top centres of learning, recognised by all cultures e.g. Japan and China included, are MIT, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, Were all conceived and developed by English settlers in English cultural traditions..literally all Modern popular sports and The most successful acts in popular music history, were British. Then there is literature and philosophy,, Which don't even need explaining- Ancient Rome is so overrated And romanticissed, it's ridiculous
@@Rowlph8888 It's quite evident that your British nationalism is impeding you to look at the big picture. I will try to be as clear and concise as possible so there is no confusion: Your definition of "Western" civilization is totally messed up. You, as well as the author of this video should definitely use another term to refer to western countries that aren't as fully industrialized as those in Europe and North America.
I will reiterate - "Western" countries at some degree, share 5 fundamental characteristics: 1) Geographical location 2) Gregorian calendar, 3) Latin Alphabet/Language 4) Judeo-Christian values 5) Greco-Roman aesthetics, socio-political and philosophical heritage.
Argentina possess all these characteristics, so does Britain.
I fact, Britain derives from the name given by Rome: "BRITANNIA", which was a prosperous Roman province that lasted for about almost 400 years. Fast forward 1,400 years to the future into the 1800s, and modern Britain became the superpower of its time and gave the world the industrial revolution, which changed our way of living. However, this industrial revolution was nothing but another contribution in the pool of the many other contributions made by all other WESTERN COUNTRIES "e.g" (Latin term here), the U.S. gave us the landing on the moon; Gemany the Printing press; Spain the Gregorian calendar; Canada gave us ice hockey; Brazil gave us Samba, et cetera (Another Latin term here). See my point? A westerner person don't necessarily under the British umbrella. It is actually the opposite. A British person falls under the "western countries" umbrella, and again, Argentina is there under the western countries umbrella. And no - Height and skin color are by no means indicators a person is a "westerner". Only a narrow-minded person would say such a ridiculous thing... Ooops!
If anglo culture spread across the globe as we understand it, was mostly due to American influence through its culture, economy, science. NOT because of England, which clearly emerged as the super power after the Napoleonic wars (1815) but influence declined way too long ago, as its power collapsed in WW1 (1918).
Just for the record - Britain lived more as a Roman province than as a British Empire. And also - Ask the American natives or the natives of Bangladesh if 19th century English were actualy civilized gentlemen for either 1800s or present standards...
So if Spanish-speaking countries are not Western then what are they? Eastern 🤔😂 They are Western.
Point taken, and thanks for your comment man! I don't consider spanish-speaking countries 'eastern' but I think traditionally Europeans consider Europe and the united states the main parts of "western" culture. Spanish speaking countries in south- and latinamerica are very important, maybe classified as the latin part of the world? Or how would you classify them?
@@BtheNomad They are Western, and from what I understand, they don't like the term Latin America. They would prefer Hispano America or Ibero America but won't push it. I believe it goes over other Western countries' heads because the United States and Canada in the Americas have taken up the main stage when it comes to Western values and their involvement with European affairs. At the same time, Latin America is more open to all sorts of interactions globally. That said, if there is an attack on Western values, it is also an attack on them, which they will get bothered by. Being an American myself I've come to understand this from interacting and immersing myself in latin american affairs, culture, history, and customs. I hope this helps give a different perspective on the subject.
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As if the term "Latin", which originates in the Latium region of Italy-you know, where that little city called Rome is-were mutually exclusive with Western. You are exceptionally ignorant, and like most ignorant individuals, arrogant as well. If that were not the case, by now you would have understood that you're poorly educated and apologized.
@@BtheNomad Being "Western" is a "Latin" based concept. Latin people, either Europeans or Americans, are the original "Westerns" as the Western civilization is based on Roman culture.
Neither did I.
Argentina is western. Colonized by a western European country, has a monogamic Christian society. Has values far closer to western values and culture than eastern.
" OCCIDENTAL?" Que somos orientales ahora?? Y nadie lo corrige?
Senegal esta mas al occidente que Alemania, es senegal occidental ahora? 🤣
To be clear, Argentina IS a Western nation.
Oh these girls are so talkative nice looking to like to visit Argentina soon
I once rented a postal box. For about 6 months I got letters from Argentinian women looking to marry. I was impressed with their letters, 6-7 pages of pretty good literature. I would have married one in an instant. Or maybe all of them...
A couple of things here: "Western", as in the "The West" is very conflated as a term. The reason so many people are angry here about asking Argentine women about "western men", is because in the mind of all those people, "western" refers to coming out of a Greco-Roman civilization lineage. Under that definition, Argentina 100% without doubt a western society. Under a more general cultural definition it is clearly a western country too, maybe 85% of the cultural traits are European, 8% African cultural influences (mainly music and dance), and 7% Native American (mainly clothing, architecture, food). Countries like the USA or Canada are also under such a cultural sense not 100% Western, as they also have heavy influences of African and Native American culture. Then there is the POLITICAL idea of the "The West": a group of countries that follow a vote for representation system of government with divided powers, and an economic system with various degrees of free enterprise and property rights, have developed high-income economies, and an alignment to the ideas such as NATO. From THAT point of view, Argentina is not very aligned with Western Europe or North America, and on income it has to catch up from years of poor economic management. Nowadays there is a fourth idea of the "western", specifically when it comes to men and women: the idea that "western" women have become too feminist and unrealistic in their relationship goals, with "western" women all seeking a very small pool of wealthy and tall and handsome and humorous men, and the maker of the video was trying to juxtapose how women think in Argentina vs. women in the "West". The idea being that perhaps down there women have not been yet totally walked into the woods, and retain some sense of realistic expectations or more traditional values. This is also questionable since Argentine women have always been rather independent and career minded (Evita after all), but that would be how I interpret the title.
They consider West is more specifically - British, French and Germans… White guys (not Latin)… That's about it. They don't refer to Western as Southern European, even though all of those cultures developed with unlocked intermingling for hundreds of years
@@Rowlph8888Well that'd be nonsense, even Germans and British people would say that southern Europe is clearly western, idk why is there a debate over this
Good walkthrough above you made !. So it really depends on how one view things. Chatbot says commonly "western countries" means europe, usa, canada, australia and new zealand. Although argentina, same as other south american countries are heavily influenced western immigration and southeuropean culture, it does not labels for real by geopolitic ideas, as most northern european think of south america as banarepublic states in general, whereas north europe have more functional societies and more equal and rich living standards for all, but that again US have huge difference in standards, so we are more talking about a myth, an ideal that flow in north western about certain ways...and maybe US, that always think everything is better in the US...
We dont completely feel like in same group, but again it is just loose definitions in culture. Us culture is NOT admired in general in north europe, but seen as more primitive and less intelligent, so we make jokes about stupid amaricans that dont know much about other countries and the world.
So scandinavian might feel superiority toward the states and in some degree also toward south europe less functional countries with more corruption and bad systems. But ofcourse we also find good things we appriciete. In north we are aware
that our more mental and reserved way of life can be too much work and less easygoing than the south culture. I think differences are becoming less and less in younger generations and all seem more american which is not s good thing
if it makes all be american values and culture, when we have very rich culture ourself in europe.
Same goes for rest of world vs. USA.
It seems Argentina has had plenty of great intellectual culture.
IF you ask the question how we would view argentina back when it was richer and some part of europe, was poorer we might see other thoughts..think earlier ireland and UK 70s, so it can not only be financial as argentina was rich once back in time, but I would guess the wealth was very centered in top also back then in argentina..I nordic countries the more equal and functional democracy was long journey running far back, so it did not come suddenly. Basicly I think many argentinians and other latins like to identify as western country, because it feel BETTER, and culture has origins from europe, so it is truely western in many aspects, but it is a southern europe similarity, as the perception for sure in north europe sees the lack of fully functional democracy as a latin things, and we are therefore more inclined to cut the area into latin, US and europe, as we also differ MUCH between USA, south and north europe culture, even christinity could be seen historic as a red thread, north europe has very unic different culture than south and even comparing danes and swedes to garman, would make many of us in nordic countries upset. The norse culture was unique, and very different from roman culture, and in noth the church lost much of its influence and power long long back in time.
If a politician start talking about god and his faith it would not be good move in popularity in general as it seen as a private matter, and not a thing we use in public and most danes have very little inclination to religion as we just like the loose ritual, and is now mainly what is called culture christians...only time some danes are in church is baptized, teen comunion, marrige and funeals..a singing choirs a christmas time. Othervice churches are empty. faith does not play in nordic culture as it does in the US and most latin america.
I think if you take the label western men most would think in those term of europe or USA and NOT latin countries, but argentina culturally is proud of its european background and origins, so it can be confussing topic for all.
Some may think it is very similar in values, a quick jump in identity, but as one that stayed and know about south america a bit, and spend one year in brazil, and brother married with argentinian and he lived 4 years in argentina, I can say there is very big difference to north europe cultures, and it is more similar to spain and italy values. South america countries has many flavours inside it and rich culture, just as european nations has many differences.
Each place must be seen and celebrated for its own unique culture, people and nature. I like places and people being different.
Would be boring if anywhere was the same, and for sure argentina does not compare to any other place and its people seems to be made it special composition. Brasil as I know a bit from much travelling has many flavours and cultures within and the language is the big common thing in a very large diverse country. Denmark is very small and even it has many region, with very different dialects and mentality. If one has only been to rio, it does not mean one has seen brasil...same goes for copenhagen..So all these labels we like to put on things can always be broken down and twisted into to other ideas, that someone get offended by. I just like to listen and discover places and what people think and say about life in many places in our world.
For me..Best thing in latin america is its warmhearted easygoing social people. lso for me is worst thing..the noise level everywhere..also in south europe !.
Latin culture (including spain ) is hooked on using audiotune shit popmusic (MUZAK) everywhere instead of developing its own musicical sofisticated style with real voices, and not fastmade repetitive computermade sound...Electronic music still has new good things going on, so there is hope...I just miss great singing voices.
Why is there not so many natural voices in music now that dont need
help from computer to sing ? it sounds awful.
Compare to bossanova and newer brasilian talent the spanish singing radio shit blasting out of any resturant, bar is just like car noise. I guess the real reason is the music now can be made by anyone, and that what I can hear.
Back in 60, 70, 80s these musicians were exsteemly talented, and worked their ass off to practise and create.
The were good musicians first who could sing and play instruments.
Compare the great manu chao to most of this shit music now and you hear the difference...
African music has much better creatitvity going on, but thats just my opinion. To me almost all spanish and latin pop music sound like the same audiotune shit, with the same beat, and dont compare to singers and musical abilities in western music last 50 years, especially UK that always has been better place for music... brasil has a lot of talent in creating music and i hope the audiotume computer sounding trend dont land there completely.
Im sure there is exceptions and good talent around,but seems promotion and marketing by companies has for long taken over from what is actually quality, and even fachion making seems to be less talented now than before in time...hopefully this generation will find its way to create things that are also great, but the phone use has made most brain less able to focus at things for longer time and go deep, and that will affect proformance and quality. Nothing comes from nothing, as monty phyton said !
@@Wahrheit_ i dont think we would
@@Gothicc_senpai Who cares what you think you're literally descendant of mediterranean and celtic tribes, britishers seem to forget that, germans at least have some brain
Qué es eso de occidentales? Todos los habitantes del continente somos occidentales comparados con los habitantes de Asia. Están confundiendo con "Oriantales"? Chinos o Coreanos? En ese caso, no sólo el título del video está incorrecto sino que las entrevistadas también! Nadie aclara el asunto y las chicas parecen entender lo que el entrevistador pregunta. O será que por occidental se refiere a los Uruguayos, siendo los Argentinos orientales?
Uruguay es Oriental justamente porque está al oriente del Río Uruguay. Pero igual no tiene sentido la manera en la que usa el concepto. Si hubiera dicho "primer mundista" hubiera tenido más sentido pero seguro lo putearian igual
Para los gringos,.Los ocidentales son Los ricos descendientes de europeos. Argentina es latam
@@fabiolucas172Y Argentina no es descendiente de europeos? Lol
@@Wahrheit_ Pero son pobres...
@@fabiolucas172 Yeah estoy de acuerdo, aunque entonces el término sería temporal, como cuando éramos ricos y por lo tanto "completamente occidentales" en los 30s
Well no one is saying it but first girl was drop dead gorgeous
The first lady interviewed.....Yow! if I were younger, I would have moved to Argentina just to buy her a coffee. An absolutely stunning natural beauty. BTW, the other ladies were nice too.
and what makes you think she would accept it? Don´t be delusional 😆
@@vanitydefenderDelusional? Not a chance. At her age, any woman I asked for a date never turned me down. That's how I know she would accept it. Besides, what woman turns down something for free?
@@vanitydefender I have never been turned down before--and she would appreciate a gentleman.
Is Argentina not in the Western Hemisphere?
Yo creo que ocupa la palabra “occidentales” como eufemismo para no ofender hablando de países del primer mundo (y nosotros en contraste del tercer mundo o subdesarrollados). Pero de que está mal está mal, es más, nosotros tenemos una conexión e historia muchísimo más directa con las civilizaciones antiguas que dan origen a occidente.
si, deberia poner anglosajones.
¡Gracias por tu comentario! Uso el término "occidental" porque la mayoría de los europeos tradicionalmente pensarían que se refiere a Europa y los Estados Unidos. Esto solo se usa para explorar las diferencias culturales entre América del Sur y Europa, y celebrar las diferencias. Pero tienes razón, ¡gracias por el aporte!
Ni EEUU tuvo tanta cantidad de europeos en proporción como argentina . Está más la pregunta
@@BtheNomadla cultura occidental surgió en Grecia y si me preguntas un griego tiene muchas mas cosas en común con un argentino que con alguien de estados unidos (si se que no sos de estados unidos) por lo que se debería poner mucho mas en duda si los estados unidos son occidentales yo creo que mas bien son germánicos (igual que los alemanes con el término ario)ario: Cristiano protestante y blanco.occidentales según estados unidos:cristiano protestante y blanco (por eso yo considero a los estado unidos como un país racista) Grecia, Rusia, hispanoamerica, Brasil, España, Italia, Francia, Portugal, Hungría y etc= occidentales y estados unidos, Reino Unido,canada, Austria, Alemania y etc como germánicos
@@FBI.capturo.gente.rara. Austria tiene grandes minorías húngaras, croatas y eslovenas y no migrantes sino originarios desde hace al menos un milenio
I'm confused-where exactly do you think Argentina is?
Argentina is "Western".
My God, how beautiful the girls from Argentina are, I hope one day I can meet one. Greetings from Rio Negro, Argentina
I hope to visit Argentina sometime ❤
You should really visit!
Do you have the first girl's insta ? It's for a friend...
Im from argentina and we are occidentals, meaning we are part of the occidental culture, we have the same humor and expressions of americans and european western countries. Most of us come from spain and italy so this video is misleading
Very misleading. I have Argentina friends and they are just as “American” as me lol.
Argentina is a Western country, is not located in Asia. The only Asian country in Latin America is Uruguay.
DUDE ARGENTINA IS LITERALLY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE GREENWICH MERIDIAN, DID YOU FAIL GEOGRAPHY OR SOMETHING?
He is a yankee. Dont expect him too know history
Asking Western people what do they think of Western people. I see no fail in that logic.
@@Lana-pf5ce How come? It's in the name! Latin America. We speak a Romance language descendant from the language spoken by the Western Roman empire, we use the latin alphabet, our religion is the same as the nicene creed adopted by the Empire in 381 A.D., our literature and history is interwoven with that of Western Kingdoms like Spain and Portugal. Your point of view is the failure here. You appropiate the term "Western" and judge who deserves to be in that elitist group of people, when in reality Romans and Greeks deemed you barbarians that didn't belong to the "Western civilized world".
Yo tenía entendido que los Argentinos son de cultura Europea. Los españoles están considerados “western” o los italianos??? Porque los Argentinos básicamente son una combinación de eso. O quieres decir como Western= “Desarrollados”
Argentinian women are beautiful!! Beautiful women all over the world!!!
Los argentnos también somos occidentales....
Argentina is a Western country (Americas), stemming from Western countries (Europe). Eastern countries are Asian countries for example. Grab some social studies book!!!!
Buenaaas, te mataron en los comentarios ajajjaja al principio pensé que eran los problemas de chicos "orientales" pero veo que querias decir los chicos del "primer mundo". Siento que las diferencias más que nada pasan por un tema económico, no vivimos de la misma forma y somos muy directas y de hablar mucho, esto al parecer no es normal en otras culturas. Me gusto el video. Los argentinos son re chamuyeroooos 😅 creo que los pibes del primer mundo nos tienen un poco de miedo y desconfianza
Argentina is part of the West 😂
Argentina y Latam en gral no es occidente. Es una región occidentalizada pero no es occidente. Por qué no? Simple, los europeos y estadounidenses nos tratan de pobres, subdesarrollados, salvajes y tercermundistas. Por esa simple razón no es occidente. Dejen de llorar, para qué querríamos ser occidente? Lo más aburrido del mundo: "civilización","progreso", borrado de culturas, todos iguales como en serie, estudiar, trabajar, "ser alguien en la vida", casa, auto, familia, prosperidad económica pisarle la cabeza al de al lado. Y nada más eso es toda la propuesta occidental.
Y racismo y xenofobia a full
Exactamenteee
Amigo, no debe existir algo mas Oriental que un chino, un japonés o un coreano, y sin embargo los habitantes de esos países también tienen esos objetivos, de progreso económico, comprarse un auto, trabajar mucho y ser mejor que el otro. O sea, esos valores no son la definición de occidente.
@@jrivoldi28 El problema es que en esos lugares así como en Latam llego la occidentalización (que no es lo mismo que ser Occidente) Entonces parece que todo es universal...Occidente es como MC Donalds, podes comerte una hamburguesita en la India y te la preparan con seitán, o te la comes en Japón y le ponen wasabi...pero sigue siendo MC Donalds...eso es Occidente, la misma basura en todos lados con pinceladas de cultura local para que parezca pintoresco. Yo te estoy hablando de otra cosa, culturas que tienen otros valores, donde las tradiciones son importantes, donde tu comunidad es importante...donde vale más el ser que el tener, donde vale más el heredar que ascender socialmente. Fijate nomás la diferencia que hay entre un casamiento occidental promedio y un casamiento en el Cáucaso...no hay punto de comparación!!
Piensan que Sudamérica está en oriente.
Y que más esperas si hasta creen que Sudamérica es un continente aparte y América un país...
El creador de este video es tan soberbio que no puede aceptar que se equivocó
Argentinos sao mestiços . Nao sao brancos/ ocidentais
@@andersoncapa soy argentino y blanco. Perdiste
El tipo es alemán
Debe ser un modismo llamar occidental a un europeo
@@andersoncapa Soy Argentino, 3 de mis cuatro abuelos son italianos y mi otra abuela abuela es hija de dos polacos. Soy blanco, Católico Apostólico Romano (como la mayoría de Argentina, que tiene más católicos que cualquier país europeo, que se encuentra totalmente invadida de musulmanes y tradiciones islámicas no occidentales) y vivo en el hemisferio occidental. Pero supongo que soy oriental ahora porque a un zurdito brasilero algún argentino le garchó a la hermana.
No entiendo… Argentina es Occidental… que somos? Orientales?