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Laios:"I'M A BIG BOY I EAT ALL MY VEGGIES AND GO TO BED ON TIME!!!"
*Proceeds to beat Shuro's ass*
Unlike everybody else I was on my feet irl CHEERING for Laios to kick his ass
24:00 - the moment i started to really like kabru. man went thru an actual ptsd flashback, considered resorting to murder rather than just simply say no to food being offered that he doesnt wanna eat, and forced himself to eat the food anyway in the end. hes so socially sensitive that he reaches people pleaser status. hes lowkey pathetic and a freak and i love him.
The author makes you love Kabru with this scene to induce emotional whiplash, because in the previous one he basically implies he will not hesitate to assassinate Laios if he somehow manages to become lord of the dungeon. That makes him a walking Chekhov's Gun. Now as soon as he shows up, you know he can stab anybody in the vital organs after saying "hello friend" with a smile.
kabru's first focus episode: oh he's kinda cool but also inda scary
kabru now: oh this guy's a little bitch LOSER, ain't he? just a bitchy, bitchy bitch.
What I find interesting is how he appears to have an elf resting a hand on his shoulder. Which is really interesting. Sure, it might not be an elf, but if so... very interesting indeed.
This! I feel so tense whenever he's in the room with them lol. I feel like (even though it wouldnt) it would be in character for him to just slash anyone's throat at any moment @@TheZapan99
Nah, he's a master manipulator. His people pleasing is just a means for him to control you, not because he means well. He'll do and say whatever it is you want to hear as long as it serves to further his selfish interests and goals and if they benefit anyone else is just pure coincidence, but he's a smart weasel so he'll use that to make himself look better too.
He's the worst kind of people you can cross paths with. You should ran as far as you can from those individuals as soon as you spot them. Absolute trash.
The exchange between Laios and Shuro really is a fight between Strongest ADHD vs Strongest Social Awkwardness
I definitely get it from Shuro's perspective. There's people in my social group that I can't stand being around in a 1 on 1 scenario but it's not because they're actively mean or anything, it's just a case of personalities that, at least on my end, don't mesh at all. I've never really found a point in outright telling a person this because...why? To make them feel bad? I don't like being around them but there's nothing actually wrong with the person so I just tolerate them and try to limit my interactions with them.
@@Syoung1200 that's totally understandable, but shuro acts like laios is commiting a moral failure just for being himself which is what hurts so much. You understand its not their fault but yeah i get its hard to communicate such things
@@Syoung1200Talkin from a Laios perpective. Even if you tell to our faces, sometimes we still dont get it
Autism*
AUTISM VS ADHD !!!
I love how Senshi does nothing in this episode but hold Shuro's food.
Dude knows he's malnurished and not eating
Everyone's getting their guts splattered across the room
Meanwhile, Senshi: "I WILL PROTECT THIS FOOD PLATTER WITH MY LIFE"
@@ilvanezzo HOMIE GOTTA EEEEEEAAAATTTT!!!!!!!!!
No sense in wasting good food
I call bs that the soup was still steaming after all that.
As someone with autism I can understand both Laios and Shuro. Laios can unfortunately overstep some boundaries, miss social cues, and be accidentally insensitive, especially since everyone calls Shuro shuro because Laios misheard his actual name. But at some point if you don't let them know that they're bothering you after subtle social cues clearly dont work, its more of a you problem and not theirs
yeah, shuro's basically being extremely inconsiderate, ironically something he accuses laios of. He comes across as a huge asshole here, in my opinion.
@@sarafontanini7051 Less of an asshole, and more like cultural clash with Laios being autistic. Shuro is incredibly Japanese. He doesn't want to be rude to Laios by stating the obvious because that in itself would be rude.
@@sarafontanini7051 well you know hes an introvert xD
@@sarafontanini7051 He accommodate Laios for TWO YEARS of their relationship tho, and only crack in a high stress situation.
I must point out that being direct and upfront IS accommodating Laios. Shuro/Toshiro is comfortable with his own introvert way, even if he himself acknowledge its limits. So fundamentally, for the majority of his relationship with Laios, Toshiro have to withstand his barrage of personal space invasion, and the only way to put an end to it is to use a method of communication Toshiro is not comfortable with.
I feel like people just refuse to ask the question: During the two years that they know each other, what exactly had Laios done to accommodate Toshiro in return? What thing that Laios hugele dislike had he done so that Toshiro can be more comfortable in his presence?
And you are missing the point that Laios cannot try to do something about which he isn’t aware of. Attempts can only occur after awareness.
It's not a question of making efforts. It's a question of which side is even able to notice something and whether they state the problem.
It's sad for Shuro with him being uncomfortable at being confrontational, but it is also the only way for it to happen.
One tiny detail I think most people missed on is when Laios was talking to Kabru and he drew Falin-Chimera.
The monster part is drawn okay, but the human part is basically a stick figure lol
Also I think it’s important to note that shuros culture is more reserved and they expect people to follow these unspoken social rules. Laios being autistic and also raised differently frustrates shuro because it annoys him and he wished he could be open like laios.
Kabru is just like me fr, I love these complex interactions between the characters.
Tho only thing about that which frustrates me is Shuro’s hypocrisy. The very things that he dislikes about Laios he seems to love about Falin. Cuz Laios and Falin are very much cut from the same cloth.
@@boss5718 Not really? Shuro/Toshiro hate Laios for being "careless, thichheaded and awkward". Hardly things that describe Falin.
If Shuro love Falin for reason A but hate Laios for reason B, it is really irrelevant if Falin and Laios share trait A, as long as Falin doesn't have flaw B. In fact, I must point out, Toshiro position is very much: "Laios, buddy, I would love to be your friend for reason A if you just fix your flaw B". That is hardly hypocrisy, that is a valid and internally consistent position to have.
@@boss5718 I don’t agree. The toudens are both weird but falin can adjust better than laios can to social interactions
@@am1na1996Laios is still a package deal with Falin. If she left, she’d likely insist Laios go with her to the East because of how close they are. It’s likely *why* she needed time to think on it to see if she can leave Laios behind.
One thing that's a bit subtle is that Shuro is stated to be very reserved and introverted even by Eastern standards, and that this is basically his first experience being outside a palace on his own. It's not just cultural differences, Shuro is actually just socially awkward. The man didn't even correct any of them when they got his name wrong.
I will be fair to Kabru, he has a pretty good reason to be cautious/worried about what Laios could/would do if he was master of the dungeon.
He’s the most knowledgeable person about monsters that Kabru has probably ever met. Having someone who knows that much about monsters in charge of the gargantuan monster spawner and direct control over at least monsters like the red dragon would be incredibly dangerous if they wanted to be.
But after getting to know Laios better he thinks Laios probably wouldn’t do anything bad on purpose, but he can’t be sure of that so he’s going to keep an eye on the potential risk.
10:27 She really hit laios with the “big brother Edward” 😭
Nahhh that's FOUL! 😭
(or I guess I should say . . . FOWL . . Heh get it?)
Shuro and Laios' squabble reflect the difficulties Japanese people have with Westerners.
We speak our mind and most of what we think is on the surface because it is valued as being honest and outspoken.
This is extremely grating for the very guarded Japanese, who prefer not to impose and are more cautious with their true feelings.
It's also why the author decided to make Kabru a sort of middle ground, both ethnically and psychologically, with his ability to hide his motives while still seeming friendly on the surface.
That describes only a part of "Westerners". I know Latinamerica is often not considered as "Westeners", but since almost every Latinamerican country (willingly or not) alligned with USA, i will consider us "Westeners". Down here, while we value being honest, is also valued to be gentle while telling things. In fact, in my country we value courtesy over being honest (wich bring us a lot of troubles). Your statement is different from country to country.
In fact, in Germany, by all means a "Westerner" country, is also valued to say things honestly, but without falling into your own emotions. Same for most Norse countries. And to do that you must not just say things, just "speak your mind", but to think about it before saying anything.
Is funny, because in most countries USA citizens are framed as "scandalous" and "noisy" because many of them just speak their minds and most of what they think is on the surface... And that is not that normal for most of "Westerners" countries.
Honestly this feels more likely a thing with people who aren’t “neurotypical” being misunderstood for not getting subtle social cues and subtle hints at discomfort. Toshiro could have been polite and direct with Laios and it would have been effective. He could have e politely asked for space, instead guy just stewed. That’s the frustrating thing is that he is treating Laios like it’s *his fault* for not catching the subtle stuff.
The technical term is a "high context" and "low context" culture.
There is side content where Liaos is data dumping Kabru about harpies while he is chewing that omelet. Explaining how harpies find the kills of other animals/monsters and shit all over it to drive the other creatures away. They also have really clean nests because the parents eat the shit of the chicks. Kabru is about to pass out from trying to maintain the friendly front and not vomit.
The fact that harpies have human faces make those facts about them so much worse. Cool, but damn.
Now imagine how shuro have to deal with this for 2 years lmao
Bit silly but thank you honestly, for sticking up for Laios with the whole "I thought we were friends" thing, being autistic I've always blamed myself for any social interaction going wrong, because if anyone is going to fuck things up surely it's the damaged one right? But it's good to hear from someone, especially someone as social as you, that maybe if someone's efforts to communicate aren't working, regardless of who's at fault, they can change tactics rather than hold it against someone; after all, it's what we do to mask too.
Not to say autistic people shouldn't try to adjust to others, I think some degree of masking is simply polite, but again thank you for showing how to meet people half way!
Seeing neurotypicals in the comments say that Laois should live in a perpetual state of social anxiety even when: things seem to be going well, the person is not complaining, and would deny Laois bothers him if asked. It drives me nuts. As if we always have to mask because nobody could ever just enjoy being around us without it.
I really am so glad that people like Alicia exist.
Exactly. That’s the frustrating thing with him saying, “What I did is what people *would notice* “ like… clearly it didn’t. And this is likely why Falin wasn’t big on his proposal least in part. She likely could tell he didn’t like Laios and wasn’t comfortable with that
Kabru must be a JJK fan because of how efficiently he jumped Falin
I thought you said JK Rowling for a second there lol.
Kabru said, "Oh, is this Harta Magazine? Is this a seinen manga? Cause I thought this was Shounen JUMP."
I like how this is clearly the first time Shuro has ever fought with a sibling. (Only child syndrome xD) And after airing out all the feelings it's clear that he cares about Laios and probably always had inspite of his frustrations
He immediately offered to let Laios crash at his place to hide from the cops, so yeah he definitely DOES care. Poor boy is just too repressed and shy to directly express himself.
One thing people look over in Laios and Shuro conflict is not just someone with autism vs someone awkward but also western openness vs eastern subtlety where you're expected to read the room all the time.
Well, that and the fact that Toshiro/Shuro is some sort of prince or lord where he's from, so he has to watch what he says and does at all times to avoid causing political issues.
I don't truly know, since i've been never there, but i've heard chinese people, at least in the main cities, are nowhere near to be "subtle". And same in Vietnam or Indonesia. And i know for sure south Koreans aren't very "subtle". I think this is a very specific trait of Japanese people, not easterns in general.
And it's not like openness it's a characteristic of every western people, not even of every western country. Norse ones aren't known for their "openness", and they're undoubtly Western. Germans are the same, even Brits (Brits, not Scottish or Irish ones). I think is kinda lazy to put us all in such a wide bag
@@elterrestresinmanos5078 As an Indonesian, I can say that we are loud but subtle. The things we yell out about aren't always what we mean, lol. Just another type of Asian subtlety. Imagine Japanese's subtlety culture without any of the reservedness. It can get confusing.
A little tidbit they omitted from the anime was Shuro watching Falin. In the manga he was smitten just from looking at her, while Falin was turning the caterpillar over and saying "Oh it's a boy".
She's just as autistic as her brother, and I think that as much as anything attracted Shuro to her.
edit: Autocorrect. Never working when I want it to.
Well yeah that's pretty much the central irony of Shuro and the Toudans, everything he hates about Laios is something he loves about Falin.
Your autocorrect is going wild there lol
@@fraidnaught9067 not quite. Falin actually adjusts better to other people while most of the social issues the touden has was from her brother.
I can fell in love with someone who has level 1 bipolar and hates someone who has level 2 bipolar, just because they're both bipolars doesn't mean both works the same way.
@mila2394 what he sees as “pushy” is just Laios being excited to learn. Laios loves learning new things as we clearly see. Yeah he’s overbearing but he’s also super positive and loyal
Apparently in some bonus material, it's revealed Shuro ALSO loves insects. That's why that moment specifically is what made him fall for her. She was the first person he could share that interest with.
lol even if it didn't work Kabru definitely made the right choice trying to kill her. She was going to kill everyone while they just stood around doing nothing
But why is he so able to overkill a human? Not a monster, not an animal but a humanoid with exact same organ position as a human. He is a sociopath hitman/assassin/murderer outside of the dungeon and no one can convince me otherwise.
@@lydialubach8872 nop, just adventurer. He was raised by someone rather peculiar, and she coloured off on him. And before that he lived through something unspeakable, and that hardened him already as a young boy.
@@lydialubach8872 to expand on philmau8104, he received a very extensive education from a young age on a lot of subjects like psychology and politics but also received training in fighting and martial arts from a real master of the craft who drilled and drilled again and again their skills into him.
@@lydialubach8872The guy clearly has some specific gripe against monsters (his need to kill Laios instead of refusing to eat some monster-based food) maybe he’s scared of them? He seems to know next to nothing about them for someone so eager to get into the lower levels of the dungeon (causing his party to get wiped out many times)
@@lydialubach8872| Without spoiling anything, I'll just say you are incorrect.
Kabru is good at fighting humans for the same reason Laios is good at fighting monsters. He's genuinely fascinated by them, and loves to learn absolutely everything he can about how they work.
If Kabru hadn’t fought back, they might have actually gotten party wiped.
Kabrus party did 100% of the damage on Falin.
Nobody could recover their corpse and revive it either, since those corpse collector aren't strong enough to come down to the level where they currently are now.
@@meeeeehhhhhh exactly, the stakes are getting higher the deeper they get
11:54 I recommend anyone check out at least this part alone in the English dub. The tone shift Marcille’s dub actress takes is masterfully comedic.
WOAH HEY
i relate to shuro in some ways, i had a coworker that always forces himself into a conversation with me but i was never comfortable or wanted to be friends with him but I was too scared or non-confrontational to say anything
As soon as I saw this episode I was ITCHING to see Alicia's reaction.
Just to give a little side story back ground on Shuro, he's from nobility in a very Japanese fantasy land. In old Japan, houses lived and died by how people precieved them and they needed to live according to strict unwritten rules. So Shuro lived in a world and was raised to be hyper aware of social interactions. He literally has no context to how Laios understands things as kids like Laios would have either been exiled or hidden away from 'polite' society.
Not to excuse his behavior but just wanted to add some background to him. He also had a dad whole screwed around with his nanny, while his mother was right there in the house, behind closed doors so his household was always one slip up away from facing major scandal so he probably grew up trying to be super conforming to his societies rules as not to stand out or draw attention to himself so his own skills with dealing with people who are not Japanese nobility are very non-existant.
The only reason he was with the party was because his dad was bored and told his three sons that which ever one of them goes out and brings back the most interesting thing gets to succeed as the next head of the household.
Pretty sure Shuro will win with the story he's about to bring back.
Also, for all his talk about not picking up on hints, his ninja companion (the tall one in black clothes with no makeup) saw herself as Shuro's eventual bride and would hang around him teasing him as a bossy girlfriend. He never picked up on it because she was equally vague in her hints and is a big tsundere as well. So she was mind blown when Shuro came back talking about how ge wanted to marry Falin.
Shuro's biggest flaw as a person is assuming his love for Falin is absolute and the most important, and that he completely disregards the feelings of everyone else, because he's convinced himself he's the only one who cares about falin, leading to feel judgemental and self righteous when he starts acting pissy here. He could've been a true friend but instead he focuses ONLY on falin. He's also a bit of a coward as his first instinct is to just kill Falin rather than actually come up with a way to actually save her. (kinda deconstructing the mercy kill trope in a way)
also I'm just mad Shuro and Maizono just completely villify Marcile and assume she'll just use black magic willly nilly without hearing her out or considering her feelings at all (after all, surely SHE doesn't care about Falin, right?) and I wish someone told them off for acting that way, or at leastpunched the two of them.
I agree but somehow the author framed it as if both sides were doing something wrong
I felt so frustrated with how marcille was so down and apologetic when just last time she said she had nothing to be ashamed of, I understand her change is because of what she saw now she's confused and not sure if what she did was right anymore but it's frustrating to see them be so judgy if her at least laios got to beat up shuro and call him out
I think I've grown too protective of laios and marcille i really want to punch shuro his servant and kaburu
Yeah. Falin was bones and so Marcille went to an extreme length to resurrect her. All those people still had their blood and flesh. So she had no reason to do that but they were acting like she was just looking for the excuse to use dark magic.
I can understand how it'd make them uneasy to think if they ever had to explain that Marcille, who used dark magic to resurrect someone, used regular magic to resurrect someone. That elves do not fuck around when it comes to that and so they want to steer well clear of any entanglements.
But how they act is just awful.
Kabru does call Toshiro on his BS at least given he can tell he would have gone for it too
I often worry about being too much, so I constantly feel the need to double check, even with some people who tell me they'll tell me if I'm being too much. Because other people don't until they snap at me!
God that fight with Shuro and Laios practically ran up to past childhood me and punched them right in the face. I had way too many instances where I thought I was best buds with someone only to find out they were pretending just so they could bully me behind my back. Or heck sometimes right to my face and I wouldn't know it until someone told me way later. Doesn't help that Shuro is big time projecting some of his issues onto Laios. But eh at least they have some sort of understanding at the end of the episode. Baby steps. Lil steppy better than no steppy at all.
The nipples were actually on the harpies. timestamp in the show is 6:05-6:07 and your video on 6:54-6:56 you have a frame or three of nipples, but its very quick as the camera is panning around falins form and not really easy to see but its there if you step through the frames
Shuro: I dropped clear hints that anyone would understand!
Me: *Hints* are *not enough!* If you want something to be *understood properly,* then *say it clearly!* You can't blame someone for not understanding you if you do not make yourself understood!
That's how Japenese culture works tho xD
@@kingragnarok7302 That's how *all* cultures "work."
@@merlinsmusings I think in shuro's case it's less the japanese culture stuff and more that toshiro is more specifically japanese nobility where stuff like being indirect and using hints is a lot more of a thing than how it normally would be so he's even more closed off and unable to be direct than most people
No, but Shuro has a total point about Laios's lack of social skills. I do actually have a friend who is like Laios but a bit worse in that regard, he essensually has a low level autism diagnosed, he is a good guy and all but it's just so freaking uncomfortable to be around him because of his "denseness"
Look, i am the type of guy to feel empathy to everything on this planet yet even i could barely stand him, we are still friends because we share a lot of same interests but i totally understand people who would outright hate people like Laios. I am not saying they're doing the right thing tho, since hating/joking on mentally ill is it's own level of fked up but i understand how Shuro feels, it is really difficult to bare with people like Lios, it legit mentally drains you
hootapy bruh you dont sound like a good friend. If you have issues say it. Also its a disability that cant be cured
@@VivienVarga-ki3sdI mean, friends accommodate each other. In their rwo years of relationship, how had Laios accommodate Shuro/Toshiro? Because I must remind you, for Shuro, to be direct with Laios IS accommodating Laios, not himself. Shuro is more comfortable with his mode of communication, which work 99% of time. Yes, he acknowledge that it has its limit, and he envy Laios directness. That is the whole point of the fight, that both people have their flaws.
But you cannot deny that in this relationship, Toshiro has to disproportionally accommodate Laios.
I think it is wronge to reduce the figt betwin Lios an Shuro to matter of personal opinion and personal conection to Falin, that is missing the point. That is Lios point of viw, the only things he is taking in a caount are his personal emotions, while Shiro is addressing the bigger picture and putting his personal feelings aside. This whole episode is the episode is Lios confronting the consequence of his actions and the fact that he can't just do whatever he wants and not think about it. I don't think neither one is objectivly in the rights, and that is the whole point, IMO. To Lios, and by extension is, think about it.
It devolved from there after Laios actually GAVE a plan to deal with the big picture thing. Taking out the big threat to save Falin’s soul
What people didn't realize is that Shuro acts like this after someone dies. not just because he didn't tolerate Laios. Heck, I would be furious if my beloved or even my friends were killed because of my party leader's incompetence. In normal social interaction, yeah, Shuro is a bit much, but this is a life-and-death situation.
And yet all Shuro did was stand still as a statue while Laios actually did get into the fray when Kabru got reality into the situation
@@dejaypage1575 THAT is luck tho. Toshiro reactno different from Marcille, both of whom is before Laios and kinda ensure it is hammered through to Laios that Falin cannot be negotiated with.
Not gonna lie as someone with adhd I almost cried watching Shuro say those things to him
I love how much attention the author pays to psychology and character, all these people have so much personality and you could analize it anytime and find their actions make perfect sense, it´s hard to find a story this well writen
FGO players might understand me, but my brain is so roten and I want the mother fucker so badly, that I saw the thumbnail and went "hey, what the hell?, is that Oberon?"
FGO fans pray every day for a Lostbelt anime, just for LB6.
This episode made me violent when I watched it yesterday
Falin's reaction to Shuro's proposal always gave me "i dont want to hurt your feelings" vibes. Also iirc he proposed mid dungeon crawl, and turning him down would've made the rest of the job awkward
Laios: SHE'S SO COOL...
Everyone Else: WHAT
You: HE'S RIGHT
It's so funny to finally hear someone agree with him. You're RIGHT and you should SAY IT she DOES look SO COOL
普通の人間は仲間を殺す化け物を見てかっこいいとは思わないんだよなぁ…
i also have ADHD and it shows up in various ways, but its actually really interesting to me that you mention your husband cant listen to music at the same time as doing something else cause im like exactly the opposite, i find that my brain creates a jumble of things to think about at any given moment in the background and listening to music helps me drastically cause it organizes everything to a rhythm and instead of my subconscious thinking about various other topics it can just focus on singing along to the music and my main focus can actually focus on the thing im trying to do.
I cried reading this, shuro's speach was so mean and with no understanding, poor laios
if one of my coworkers who i dont spend time with outside of working proposed to me out of nowhere id reject him too
I think Alicia missed Kabru trauma flashbacks going in the background
Falin by herself was already a SCARY powerful person, with her insane level of understanding of spirits and magic. now she's a dragon chimera on top of that.
i believe she has slightly lowered cognitive abilities from being controlled by the Dungeon Master, but still.
a creature with dragon strength and durability that has her level of magical knowledge is fucking ABSURD to fight against
I'm (kinda) sorry, but Falin's chimera form and 'flaunting' just reminds me of Angel Dust from "Hazbin Hotel".
"I got the legs. The lung capacity. The stamina. Oh I got the legs!...The chest fluff people think are tits."
PLEASE REWATCH THE FALIN SCENE RIPPING HER SHIRT OFF IN ENGLISH DUB!!! YOU WON’T REGRET IT 😂😂😂😂😂
I literally just watched this episode!
It's so fitting that Laios beat the importance of proper nutrition into Shuro. After all... That's how they got into this clusterfuck to begin with!
Kabru I wonder if they’re adhd coded but in a different way. The idea of conforming and planning your actions to satisfy and gain trust feel all to familiar. Though I don’t think he’d take it to the point of having multiple premade scripts for every topic and mood.
Though he could just be a little sociopathic.
Eh, he was raised by a somewhat peculiar person who coloured off on him. And before that he lived through something that would drive most people insane, and it forced him to grow up. Kabrus not a sociopath or a cutthroat or anything, hes just wary of people and likes to read them always. In a sense humans and their relationships are to Kabru what Monsters are to Laios.
He's also way better at masking than either of them
@@phimau8104 eeeehhhh he is a little sociopathic. Oh he is absolutely like you describe him but he got some clear sociopathy symptoms as well. It's more of a mix in my opinion.
@@mathieumartineau3121 if he would be sociopathic he wouldnt give a fuck about his party. Him always trying to be on top and in control is a coping mechanism, since he didnt have control of things for the majority of his live. The man lived through a catastrophe that killed his entire town and then was raised by an elv that was having heavy mental issues. The main thing that he is is being ruthless. Thats it, lol.
I love this show.
I haven't read the manga yet, but it seems like Falin's upper body is less Falin, and more similar to the fleshy protrusion on a snapping turtle's tongue. It looks like a worm, only so fish approach and are eaten. Kabru was correct in his judgement to go for killing blows, I feel.
love love love that laios' drawing of falin has a pretty detailed dragon half with realistic body parts but the human half is a stick figure that a child would draw
If you read the manga, you realize that Toshiro/Shuro is more than a little bit shallow. I think he was more in love with the idea of being in love with Falin, and did not fully commit to the concept, considering how the series ends (no hints for anime only's)
Did you notice that Chimera Falin doesn't squint? The lunatic magician fixed her nearsightedness.
Kabru the fucking goat
Laios rules and i relate to him so much...like maybe im just autistic or something but we both mean what we say and say what we mean so, sorry if some sort of social cue was lost to us
Best show
Weird, I thought you might have said something that offended people cause the dislikes are like 8-10x more than usual, but I didn't notice anything odd (maybe Shuro character fans? idk). Either way I agree the Falin chimera was cool. Also now I think Kubra is Lawful Neutral, but we'll see...either way a fun episode and reaction.
waiting to eat just to see everyone DIE 😂
Maizuru's a soccer mom
Hey girl, please don’t forget to react to Zom 100, please….! 🙏
You should watch the English dub version. XD
The scene with laios and toshiro hits different as an autistic person. Damn
Kabru is just male casca with Griffith personality
3:19 is that not normal?!
I'd rather not get into the uncanny feast if it only tastes like Chicken.
Writing a comment
Well, I hope you’re into monster girls Shuro…
Nah I'm with Kabru on this one. That's not Falin. That's a monster using her skin like a fucking flesh suit
its crazy after all this i ship kabru and laios even more lmfao
i get that what Shuro/real name toshiro, said and did this ep seemed bad, and it was, I think it's more that Laios and Toshiro are both on the spectrum but with different things. Toshiro was born in a culture that while not accommodating fit him better than the culture Laios was born in. He learned to mask it better than Laios but that's also because he is introverted and it works. Yeah it's fucked up that he blamed Laios after 2 years or so without telling him but due to his own neurodivergency and how he was taught by his culture, it clashed. It boiled over because he just had the worst day of his life after powering his way through the dungeon with little food and rest, and things erupt.
Now that they can be honest with each other maybe the two of them can form a real friendship instead of Toshiro being polite and uncomfortable and what Laios being clueless
Omg im early for once
You can tell from earlier episodes that Laios is on a spectrum (as a social anchor for my autistuc cousin). He is kinda floaty, lack social cues, and hyper fixation on 1 or 2 things. If you read the manga far enough there is another scene that will reinforce this notion. So this is one of the few autistic representation in the media.
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Aaaand this is the episode why I don’t like Shuro
There are better reasons to dislike shuro imo
@@Sorry_i_eated_it can you name yours so I can see if they are the same reasons I do?
Its kinda cringe tho how Shuro acts towards Laios for his feelings towards Falin, when this whole thing is one-sided and Falin is just Nice to everyone equally
Tough luck buddy
It's the first time Shuro loves someone who isn't obligated to love him back. He grew up pampered by retainers as the heir of a noble family. He has zero experience with reciprocity.
Says who? It's never said if falin likes him back or not, its left ambiguous on purpose.
Day 252 of asking Alicia to play Nier:Automata!!
Your model looks SO cute whenever you're eating like yassss queen munch munch crunch crunch bishh
I'd like to point out that shuro is a bit of a hypocrite when he states he's leaving and never coming back to the island, he states he loves falin and wants to marry her, yet he allready wrote her off as lost, if he truly wanted to marry her he would have stayed given even the slightest chance that she could be saved, and to add to that, laois is family , if he wanted to marry falin at the very least he should stick around to make sure her brother doesn't die and gets him out when stuff gets really hopeless
ultimately shuro's a coward. rather than trust the party he ran off at the first second with barely an apology and recruited a bunch of other people (who i beleive its implied aren't that experienced exploring a dungeon) and rather than actually treat his old party as people or think about their feelings he writes them off. And finally after seeing falin he just gives up, seeing no point in even TRYING to do something and decides to leave.
yeah I'm not a shuro stan
@@sarafontanini7051 he gives the impression that he loves the idea of her but doesn't really love what's in her life
@@sarafontanini7051 you are right about not being experimented, it's the really big fire they build last episode that attracted the monsters.
😂 I am pretty sure he wanted to bring Fallin back to his homeland so he never had to deal with Laïos again, so in a way, he want the marriage but without the other family that goes with it
@@sarafontanini7051he's in no way a coward. Have you watched the show? The reason he didn't stay with the party is because he didn't know falin was missing. The moment he learned about her still being in the dungeon, he gathered a group and went down there to save her, not even stopping to rest. That's the opposite of cowardly. Also, he didn't get with a random group, it's heavily implied they all already worked for him or his family.
And where did you get the idea he didn't care? Pretty much everything he said is fair. Him giving up after seeing Chimera falin isn't cowardly either. it's just common sense.
I can't rightly say that I didn't feel any satisfaction when the secondary characters fell to Falin.
After calling Falin a monster, Kabru proceeds to attack only her human parts honestly thinking that her tiny human organs are what power her huge body.
I also have an issue with Rin's lightning magic. Aren't feathers supposed to insulate you from electricity? Wouldn't Rin's magic not be effective on Falin nor the living armor in the ed who're encased in metal.
Remember that team is a PVP party not a monster slaying party.
El metal conduce la electricidad amigo
really highlights kabru's weakness: he's so opposed to monsters he doens't actually bother to think about their anatomy or how they function and so has trouble fighting them
@@sarafontanini7051not really, he had the right idea, he just chose the wrong spots. If he wouldve went for the brain, they wouldve won, lol.
@@cochayu_yo ever been in a car while it's being hit by lightning? You don't get hit when you're inside. It's the same thing with the living armor and Laios. He was in between Rin and Falin but he didn't get hit because he was wearing metal
Alicia, please... PLEASE mute your mic while eating, for people with misophonia.
I suggested alternatives like giving warnings, or quick food breaks between episodes that could be worked around (muted by stream viewers and/or edited out of videos by you), because I wasn't sure yet if there was maybe technical issues with muting the mic. But you did it before that one time while blowing your nose during the recent One Piece reactions. So it would really mean a lot to put in that effort regularly.
This isn't just about folks being annoying or nitpicky for disliking the sound. In people with misophonia, noises like chewing can trigger a literal fight-or-flight response. It's reallly unfair to them for those sounds to show up randomly throughout your videos without warning.
We gotta give warnings for eating sounds now 💀💀💀 what kinda planet are we on
@@fohb7291Hey, it's not like people with misophonia can control sounds like that causing such extreme issues for them. But many streamers who know about it make an effort to mute their mics while eating for that specific reason... It's to be courteous, even if for only a small part of the audience (tho it's been brought up enough times by other comments that I feel like a fair amount of Alicia's watchers could have it)
...I do also realize that in this particular case [and a few others], the chewing didn't happen "without warning," though that issue still does come up a fair amount in general.
665 views in 36 minutes? She really fell off...
This was an amazing adaptation to an already amazing chapter in the manga. My only complaint was that they showed Falin approaching them at the end of the last episode, which is an anime only scene. In the manga, she genuinely just appeared out of nowhere when we thought that she was in the lower levels. Either way, Falin still fucked shit up in the end so it’s not a big difference.