2005 Chevy Duramax (P0046 and P2563)
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- Two codes set the Check Engine Light (MIL) so the new owner of the truck wanted both related sensors changed out. That ended up costing him more money than necessary because only one sensor was at fault which changing the other sensor created more problems. Come along to see how this was corrected.
Anybody with a 2005 Duramax truck dually like me and has STIHL signs in the shop is a friend of mine! Thank you much for the video and I look forward to more edumahhcayshawn from you sir!
That's why were here, we have similar tastes. :)
2005 GMC 6.6 L 264,000 MILES ... great Truck. threw a P0046 code. $160 from O'reilly auto parts in san diego. very easy to install. just used a Snap-on one inch CROWS FOOT to remove and install part... no problem so easy, i owe it all to you for posting this video... i was going to take it to a Dealership right down the road and i said i will try to knock it out..., but we would love to hear more story's about your days in the Military, being a Master Helicopter Mechanic... like what was the hardest day, and what tools you used, and what you saw that you did not like and how you would do things better if in charge...
Hey John. It's comments like this that encourage me to continue to make videos. (I haven't made one in three months). Yes, I spent 3 years as a cobra helicopter mechanic then applied for flight school .That took a year alone, then another year in school. At my first duty station after flight school (Ft. Campbell, Ky) I applied for maintenance test pilot course. That took me into being the main troubleshooter on the helicopter, which I loved. Of course flying was cool too. My first interest has always been in mechanics. Becoming a pilot was secondary, but it did pay better. I'm glad the video was able to help you. Thank you for your comment. I grew up in Ventura and have visited San Diego often.
Which part did you install, the turbo sensor or vane position solenoid. The solenoid looks like the easiest one! I found the white wire and looks like it plugs in behind battery connection but haven' t got the courage yet to try it. Looks like the solenoid is just behind the turbo cover near firewall? Only single white wire! Hard to tell from video! His was cut off?
Meant to reply to John Punch's comment!
I feel bad for folks back east. Cars rust out so bad. A good friend of mine who lives in Ohio purchased a 99 suburban from a customer of mine. A beautiful rust free cali car. He drove it to Ohio from California in 3 days and didn't have a problem. I bet you will miss your truck. Thanks for posting
Your right, I will miss the truck. But it was costing me a lot of money and I no longer need it so better to see it go. I do feel bad that in a few years it be rusted along with the rest of them.
Congrats on the sale, Wyatt!
Figures GM stops making the sensor, and won't let the aftermarket know the secret to keeping the truck happy. Par for the 21st Century course, unfortunately. Extortion instead of sales - that's the name of the game these days.
Thanks for sharing, Wyatt! Can't wait to see what you'll fill that bay with next. 😉
It was a good thing the original sensor was still good. I got lucky and made the new owners much more comfortable about buying the truck. I'm glad it's gone, but I'll miss the beast too. As for the next project, it will probably be something I already own but needs work. :)
@@wyattoneable - Ahh , gotcha. Well I'm sure you'll still make some great videos with it. :)
Not everyone takes the time to rectify a problem, much less be honest, when selling a vehicle. That in itself is worth the purchase price.
Appreciate the vids David, I keep watching even if don't comment all the time, lol.
It's always good to see you around. Thanks for the comment and take care up there.
Good deal my friend. Fixed the problem and made the buyer very happy. Let's hope you sell the wheels.
Thanks. I have a guy coming today (so he says). Lets see if he comes though this time. He's told me he'd be here three times before. I'll give him one more chance.
Nice job Wyatt! I find it very hard to part with vehicles lol. The new owners are very lucky to have bought a well cared for truck from you. Worth the 5 years wait 😉 I hope it's still around in another 5 years but Ohio weather will be harsh 😔
I will miss that truck but it went to a good home. Nice people. I appreciate your comment.
Great fix Wyatt. I can't think of a better person to buy a vehicle from then you! 😃👍
It's not the first time if heard that. I take extra good care of my cars...kind of a hobby that others can take advantage of. Thanks for the kind words.
Thank you. Exactly what I needed.
I appreciate the feedback.
Nice to see that setup on how the vanes are controlled in this turbo. Never saw it hydraulically. Don't think we have that here for European market. Thanks for sharing Wyatt 👍
Hi Dylan. Thanks for the comment. My wife is German so we spend as much time there as we can and I think your right. Different technology on how turbos are controlled.
Germany nice! Small world 😊
Yes the ones I see here in Belgium are vacuum valve controlled or have a DC motor. I'm always learning new things that's what's great about all you guys here on CZcams!
Nice looking truck..........and I'm sure the new owners will love it and take care of it like you did. Thanks for sharing
Hi Lady B. So nice of you to take some time to watch my silly videos. Yes, they were very happy to find a truck in such good condition. I hope it runs good for them.
Nice video Wyatt. Quick fix, even without testing grounds/pwr. I bet you are a little sad to see it go. BTW... As a Stihl guy myself (I have over 50 Stihl saws) , I am envious of your Stihl display on your wall :).
Yeah I do love my Stihls. I found that sign on ebay and had to have it. :)
That was a sweet truck and those big wheels really made it look good, I would be missing it already. Oh by the way I finally got my concrete poured that was a long wait.
I'm missing that truck already. It took up a lot of room in the shop and it sat a lot so it was time to let it go. Oh great! I'm glad you got that pour completed. Now you can enjoy it.
That is one nice scan tool you have there! great fix Wyatt!
I love that you sold it to me! It was really helpful in finding the problem too. I was hoping that X431 would show up to give it a try but not yet. DE708 to the rescue.
What kind of scanner is it?
Hi Wyatt, What brand turbo vane sensor did you use, it didn't look like a OEM part, I need to do mine and I'm holding off until I do more research to see if after market parts are reliable. I to was a Crew Chief on the UH-1E Huey in the Marines, HML-367, I studied on the AH-1J's
Sorry for the late response and thank you for your service. I enjoyed working as a crew chief. It was a good day if I could actually work on it. As you know, you get pulled in so many different directions it's hard to stay in the hanger. So, what I remember is the actuator was purchased from a Chevy dealer but they didn't stock the sensor because "they never fail". He was correct. I ended up getting a part I didn't need plus it was junk. I reinstalled the old sensor and installed the actuator and that fixed it. I hope I got that right. It's been a while.
It's fun to get a truck and it's fun to sell a truck too. Congratulations, I'm sure they will love it.
I loved the truck but we just don't need it anymore so it's off to a good home. But it will rust away quickly in Cleveland I think.
Great video! I'm sure the new owners are super happy . There new to them truck is as good or better than a new 1 with all the work U did to plus super new paint job. Congrats brother .
The next time I come out I will only get 10 MPG in the flatbed. I'll miss the 17 MPG gallon I got with the diesel. But it was expensive to run otherwise so time to say goodbye. Hope your staying busy and comfortable in this heat.
We have to wonder why Autel deleted the relearn procedure in their new scanners. I can see why your truck got a good price, you obviously put time into careful maintenance through the years.
I have a Launch X431 coming (hopefully) and I'll be interested to see if it has that relearn procedure. Not that I need it now, just curious. Thanks for spending some time here!
Enjoyed the video bro. Been watching videos from EAA Oshkosh air show and liking them very much. Was not much into planes till I watched a DC3 put back into the air after sitting for 27 years in Canada, they got it flying on D day and taken it to Oshkosh. Joe Mc Brian of Buffalo air flew it on D day. Hey all the best
It's amazing what some men will do to put a plane back in the air. I love the stories behind the war era aircraft (any war). As you may recall, I was in aviation for 40 years yet never considered aviation a hobby. It was a good career, but way too much travelling. Now that I'm retired I can enjoy my hobby of messing around with mechanics. Ken, you've been a long time supporter and I appreciate you.
My 07 LBZ. Just tripped this code
And wouldn’t go over 2k rpm
Unplugged these 2 sensors and plugged them back in and it started working fine
Your saying I should only replace the vane sensor not the waste gate actuator since they probably never fail?
The boost pressure actuator is not stocked by GM because (I was told by the parts manager) they never fail. The only boost pressure actuator available was aftermarket and that caused the check engine light to remain on. I'm not sure if the "Waste gate actuator" is the same as my "Boost pressure actuator" however. I hope this helps.
wyattoneable thank you
I’m sry I was calling it the wrong part I meant the boost pressure actuator
I ordered the part you did and am going to replace it
It’s because people like you that I even watch CZcams anymore
So helpful
Very much appreciated
I have a 2006 Chevy Dually xtra cab its throwing code P2563 I hate to ask but could you please tell me in the video which part is which? I know you changed 2..Was it the one you changed up top or below? We just love our truck but to get it fixed by someone else they want to charge crazy prices.. Our truck has no rust and low miles it is put away in the barn for the winter and brought out in May for camping season.Thank you for sharing your video's it helps us little people who love our trucks...
The part that fixed the P2563 code is the turbo vane actuator. The other part shown at 1:47 the "position sensor" isn't even sold by GM any more because in their words "that part never fails. I reinstalled the old sensor and the new turbo vane actuator and cleared the code. It never came back. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching.
@@wyattoneable Thank you very much.How often have you came across a situation where the vanes are stuck and the turbo has to come off and get worked on? ty
@@maryCCFarm I've only owned one diesel (the one that's in the video) and don't have any other experience. Sorry.
@@wyattoneable ok no problem..Another person was saying something more about the vane actuator so we were not sure what anyone else came across..thanks for your time.
Hi, thanks for the video, oversized wheels and tires looked great, can you please let me know the wheel manufacturer and tire size, thanks again
I'm sorry but I can't remember the size of the wheels. I got them on line from a dealer in Florida. I ended up selling them because the new owner didn't want them. I would have probably sold them anyway because while they did look good, they cause some issues. Tire rub, rough ride, hard to get into the truck and premature wear on the steering box.
Wyatt, man, that truck is worth a lot more, in site that's why he paid more than is value for the truck. Like how you take pride of taking great care of the truck, keeping it clean and baby it. I have seen several of your videos on how you take care of it. If I was the buyer, I wouldn't hesitate to buy it as it is. It's hard to find nice clean and babied truck. You did great job finding the issues! Sad to see it go! Plan to get another diesel?
Hey Josh, thanks for the kind words. No, I'm done with diesels. I have my RV for sale and the other flatbed equipment trailer I have for hauling the tractor can be pulled by my 98 Chevy truck. Although much slower. I had that truck for over 10 years and while I did baby it, it was constantly breaking down on me. Hopefully the new owners won't have many issues as I took care of them. But I will miss it. :)
@@wyattoneable awww, that's a real bummer. At least you have the old truck. I have a old 1999 suburban too. Still have it :) had it over 10 years too. Transmission went out, need to be rebuilt, right now it's sitting on my driveway.
they got a nice truck with no rust! sometimes too the veins stick in the turbo
They did indeed. I've seen that the vanes can stick too. This truck only has 154,000 miles on it so I was hoping that wouldn't be the case and I think we got lucky and it was just a bad sensor. Thanks for your time here.
Nice job on the sale of the truck. When you get a good price it makes it easier doing the extra stuff to make the sale
I was disappointed when the light came on during a test drive no less, but things happen. The new owner was very happy with the extra steps taken to ensure it was corrected. Thanks for the comment and support!
I've worked on lots of Duramax's over the years. Seems like the most common things I've done to them are the injectors and water pumps. Water pumps on those engines last over 200K miles.
I replaced the injectors about 10,000 miles ago and my water pump only lasted until 130,000 miles. I've done so much work to the truck's engine. I don't think I'll ever own another diesel. I'm glad it's gone but I will miss the towing capacity and comfort.
great you got it done and sold good job thumbs up and shared
Thanks for the help Drew.
That was a sweet truck! Sounds like it has the perfect new owners!! =)
It was a beautiful truck, just much more than I need. The RV is for sale and were making a slow transition towards moving to Germany...one day. :)
@@wyattoneable oh wow, i would have liked to seen pictures of it..
@@maryCCFarm It was a beauty. New paint and custom pin stripping.
Having same issue with my 05 Duramax. What should cost be for replacing both sensors before I take my truck to dealer so I know if they are gouging me. Thanks!
Oh wow, this was a long time ago. One sensor isn't even sold by GM because they never fail. They were correct, I only needed the one sensor to fix the issue. I don't remember what I paid for them, sorry.
Luckily you had the correct scanner, wonder why the newer scanners don't have that program? I know whoever bought the truck was a very happy, especially if they know how well you take care of a vehicle. Take care and God Bless!
They fell in love with it. It was perfect for them and I hope it will bring them many years of good service. Thank you so much for another great comment.
You are awesome!
No, you are awesome. 😁
@@wyattoneable Lets just hug and call it even!
My fathers 05 just tripped the CEL and that same code appeared. I noticed the engine started rattling very loud whenever accelerating, but would quiet down after a second or so and then rattle, quiet down, so on and so forth. I’m wondering if I should replace that sensor, but if you can’t get OEM and aftermarket are no good, then what’s a guy to do?
It's a hard decision. The sensor isn't available from GM because they say, "It never fails". Mine did not fail either and I ended up reinstalling the old one and it worked fine.
@@wyattoneable I believe what happened is I got a bad tank of diesel this weekend. We had a cold snap this week and the fuel wasn’t blended properly. It lost fuel pressure…I think. I added some Hot Shots secret to the fuel last night and it was fine again this morning. I also cleared the codes last night and the light is still off. I will go ahead and replace that vane position sensor just for good measure.
Can you give manufacturer/part # for vane position solenoid you used. I'm finding prices range between $50 and $380???? Wanting to first replace VP solenoid before ordering actuator. Hard to see where you are working, but looks like solenoid is just behind turbo cover and it plugs in behind battery hot connection???? Video really didn't show that? Never as easy as you guys make it look. I bought truck new and this has never been changed. Engine light started coming on and off during Covid and codes for turbo issue. Runs great!!!
I had to re-watch the video to remember what I did. Anyway, I won't be able to help you as the truck has been sold and I have no way of knowing what the part number is. And to complicate things more, one of the two sensors was not needed and I can't remember which one it was. And you're right, making videos is not as easy as it looks. Viewers bring up many points that I never consider, but hopefully I'll get batter over time. Thank you for watching.
@@wyattoneable It was the turbo sensor you didn't need and kept the vane position solenoid. Just curious about brand you use if not OEM part. Prices seem to really vary and may just go with cheaper one just to see if that's the problem. Hate to pay the $380 price!!
@@judisinger3693 One sensor was not available from GM because they say "That part never fails". I've not had much luck with non-manufacture sensors, especially made by Dorman. I wish I could be of more help but good luck!
At 2:23 I show the first sensor and at 3:03 I show the second sensor. I don't understand the question. Was I too close so you can't tell where the sensors in relation to other parts of the engine?
Time for the truck to go? Nice fix Wyatt.
Yeah, sad but true. I'm trying to sell the RV (long story) and didn't need the truck anymore. I think Mike is more sad than me. :) Thanks for the support Jim and hope to see you soon.
Grrrr... I hate it when NEW(er) scan tools can't do what the old scan tools can do!!! Back to watching... =)
Right? I was about to take this into a shop but the good old DS708 I bought from Mike the disgruntled mechanic came though! Awsome. Thanks Thomas.
Congrat's on getting rid of that headache. lol What are you replacing the truck with?
It was a headache but I already miss it. Nothing new on my mind to buy yet. Just rolling in the next project (fix) which is the 98 flatbed truck. Lower ball joints. Yuck. I did see a 93 Corvette near me for $2000. Low mileage but need a total paint job. Too much for me but it's tempting as a car to flip. No money in this area though and everyone buys trucks here.
Hey man I have a 2008 3500 6.6 duramax I am in limp mode , I ran the diagnostic and I have the turbo booster and fuel pressure regulator is a code popping up , what do you think is going on ?
Man it's hard for me to guess. I've sold that truck long ago and don't have any access to data any longer. You'll need to get a wiring diagram and check for power and grounds at the sensors. If that checks put then it's a good chance the sensors them selves are bad. Good luck.
Cool story at the end about the new owner
Thanks for your time here Mike.
Great job buddy. That is one nice truck 👍
It took a lot of money to keep running in tip top shape but you know how that goes. Looking forward to seeing how your projects are progressing.
Good work Wyat :) Nice scan tool btw
Thank you. I enjoy learning about new tools.
Is it ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY that the sensor has to be relearned? I haven't seen any other channel relearn the boost control sensor.
I may be different depending on the year model truck but my research at the time indicated that the reprogramming was necessary. Since this video is 3 years old I can't remember if the truck ran okay or not before the reprograming was completed. Thanks for the commnet!
Wow someone from my area came down to buy it. Good Job yeah GM is differnet since 2009. They changed many things since the government loans.
You might see it around. They have a camper they will be installing on the back. The ol' girl will be working now! Thanks for chiming in Lon, good to hear from you again.
Thanks for the video Wyatt and all the info 👍
And thank you for being here.
just did my top sensor worst part was getting the wire rerouted I tell you gm engineers must take a class on how to do stuff the hard way every time
It seems that way sometimes. Thanks for the comment.
Wish you would have shown exactly where on the motor those sensors are.
Nice job Wyatt. 👍👍
Thanks Richard. It took some time and some research but I got it figured out.
Do you know how the p0402 and p2563 could be related? Thanks for your help
I'm trying to remember...this was a while ago. I recall one sensor communicated to the computer where the position of the other sensor was. (which was the component that activated the turbo vanes) . I hope that helped. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for the awesome video. I have an 06 Duramax with the same problem. Will I need to do the relearn procedure as well?
Your certainly welcome. Yes, I believe you'll have to do a relearn procedure.
@@wyattoneable Thanks for the reply. I have access to genisys evo programmer/scanner. Do you know if it will do the procedure? If not, what is the best scanner to get to do the job. I keep seeing alot about the "tech 2". Is that what I need? Thanks again so much
Glad it all worked out
Me too John. It was a lot of work to keep that dude clean. My other cars are so much shorter it's easy to wash them. :)
Good work. I have the same LLY. Is it unpolitically to ask how much you got out of it? Mine is a rust bucket.
I don't mind. Kelly Blue Book for "Private Sale" average was $16,500. I got $18,500. I could have held out for more I think but I'm happy to have it gone. That truck cost me a lot of money to keep running.
goob job.
Thanks! Lots of learning to do but this one is out of here!
I bet you will miss the truck but I'm thinking maybe your already planing on the next truck. 👍
I will miss it but no more diesels for me. Thanks Steve.
After changing both or one of these sensors do you have to have someone "relearn " engine or just discounting the batteries will reset them.
Relearn starts around the 4:30 minute of the video.
Cannon plug? do you have a background in aviation maintenance?
You caught that did you? Yes, I was a helicopter maintenance officer and mechanic for many years.
I hope she went to a good home !
They said they are picky about their vehicles but they don't have a garage. Poor truck will be rusted in a few years.
Bet Eric wishes he could work on something that clean and rust free LOL. You didn't even have those wheels a year did you? I use a nickel anti seize for my exhaust components it's supposed to take heat up to 2400*
You putting the money toward a C8? LOL
Ha! him and his brother have worked on it and that is exactly what they said!!!!
RE: You putting the money toward a C8? See Ozzstars video and my question!
@@TheDisgruntledMechanic LOL
Mike is right. Eric and Doug both thought it was a new truck. No, the C8 will wait until GM has a chance to work out some bugs. I've been following what I could on it and the electrical system gave them hell and delayed the reveal. Plus I'm not 100% in love with the body style. Many dealers are giving the 2019 COrvettes huge discounts to sell them. A base model 2019 is $45,000!
@@wyattoneable Yes, never buy the first model of ANY car LOL
1st boom!
Nice going, now do we get to see a Ford in its place?😎
LOL I've own two Fords and in one the motor blew up twice. The other was okay, but I was always uncomfortable in it. The ergonomics in GM just suit me better. plus I understand GM's engineering more I think. At least it's what I'm use too.
ok heads up turbo position sensor the long one, the hardest thing about it is getting to the BLOT! whoever the GM guy was that made up that part of the engine is a fucking idiot. spent 3 hours trying to get it back into its hole I finely modified the bracket. put the bolt in with is a few threads in cut the bracket so that you can slip it over the bolt. what I mean by that is cut a channel and a little off the left fin leaving as much of the bolt hole as you can then it's just getting the right angle on the bolt which is still a huge pain but can be done
It is a challenge for sure. I can't remember exactly how I got that bolt out but I do remember it was a major pain. Glad you got it figured out.
@@wyattoneable I'm not an engineer but I do know DUMB by DESIGN. I can think of at least 3 ways to make this a 15 min job and all it would take is a different bracket set up or move the bolt placement
Finally decided to get a Ford, huh? 🤣
Ha ha. Nope, just downsizing. I'm selling the RV and no longer need the diesel. I will miss it though.