Where are the Modern Hyper Transformations? (Super Emeralds)
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Sonic couldn't go Super in the first game because he didn't have the seventh emerald.
There was only 6 special stage so yeah i got all 6 btw
@@LucidHurt_X nice
I think originally, there were several emeralds on different locations, of various colors and effects, some games showed 8 or even 16. But as they started progressed the lore, they simplified it to have always been 7 that have moved around across all these locations.
@@hamzagamalelgamal yeah ik what is ur fav sonic game
@@LucidHurt_X Heroes actually. I grew up on Heroes and I still have good memories with it. Part of the reason why Shadow is my favourite character then it's Tails.
"Everything is canon" -sega 2021
Dang they did ssy5 that
@DiegoHeor I mean yeah but the reason many ignore that is because it really just doesn't make sense i think it's more canon as another universe if it doesn't make sense. However sonic prime doesn't make sence and its canon so maybe everything actually is but just so I don't lose sanity ima say "nuh uh"
what about sega sonic popcorn shop or that one time he was a cop
@@n.u.andadalmatianplantatio9353 Sonic Prime isn't canon
@@AEwastakenwasalsotakenI don't want to be a nerd, but whether we like it or not, Sonic Prime is indeed canon. There are multiple official sources stating so. But hey, we could always headcanon it's not anyway.
Hyper forms are definitely canon. It makes sense being able to use the master emerald to get a greater power that isn't achievable with the normal Chaos Emeralds
Only hyper sonic. The others are not. Only male hedgehogs and blaze can go super
Didnt Amy go super in the game tho
@@reggielacey2235that’s not true
What’s the background music being used at the beginning?🤨🤔🧐
@@zephyrstudios3013origins isn’t the definitive method to play 3&k the most definitive way to play 3&k is the original Sega genesis lock on tech or the Nintendo GameCube mega collection or Sonic and knuckles collection on PC are the most definitive versions to be play because origins is a remakes and remaster combined with more modern hardware to play
Hyper Sonic to me *IS* canon, but like other forms other than Super, they're temporary.
The super emeralds are in a different universe rn. So Sonic can't get his hands on them.
Or the super emeralds were turned Back into the Chaos emeralds by tikal for using the Form too much
@@hamzagamalelgamalI mean he cld if he wanted to
@@hamzagamalelgamalaccording to Sega which is false and not even remotely true
@@AdamSelvig lol
I heard in one game Shadow could use Chaos abilities without an emerald by “having Maria in his heart”, which I believe means he can use his own energy or life force as a substitute. Kind of like Edward Elric transmuting his life force to heal himself in place of a Philosopher’s Stone.
He can.
Yeah, this happens in Sonic Battle, where Shadow give Emerl the *only* Chaos Emerald he has, and then he says this line.
The funny thing is, neither the knuckles or the amy on the thumbnail are hyper
To be fair Knuckles super form is normally switch’s between being called Hyper or super form
Amy on the other hand is definitely in a Hyper form I mean the form is pure white
@@elliotsturtplus340 no that’s super amy the screen shot is from sonic 1 not 3
Also hyper knuckles and super knuckles look exactly the same
its cuz their hyper and super form doesnt change the flash slowly flashes thats the only difference same goes with tails ray and mighty
If we want to use the idw argument starline had all seven chaos emerald in forces and yet during thoses event on cutscenes while fighting infinite he performs chaos snap. In a earlier issue of idw shadow performs chaos snap when teleporting to mr tinkier and he had no chaos emerald since starline had all seven.
He also used chaos spears several times throughout the book with no chaos emerald in his position.
Shadow does not need a chaos emerald to use his chaos power however you can argue chaos control is something different so all his other chaos abilities from snap,spear,and blast he can use without a emerald but he requires a emerald for a full chaos control.
What I really want Sega to explain is the negative and positive energy from the chaos emeralds I meen in unleashed they talked about how the Gaia energy is related to chaos energy so why not do again but this time to explain more about the side of the negative and positive energy of the chaos emeralds
Doing a video like this with Mario would be pretty agonizing lol
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@@THATLIGHTWORK I know
Your longer videos are great, definitely looking out for more of em.
I wonder if Sonic (who we know can time travel) can go back in time and get the super emeralds. Also I believe bits of the Archie comics are canon (like Sonic’s power level and abilities and stuff and possibly some of the characters)since Sega rn is trying to weave a lot of the canons together, like how Amy mentions Sticks in Frontiers.
I think that if the series ever does get a finale, they should end it with a threat so incredibly strong that Sonic has no other choice than to go all in unleashing hyper sonic. It might not even be a boss fight, maybe a snap of the fingers. Maybe in the movies or something.
Hoping Hyper Sonic Returns In Future Games I Mean People Really Need That (edit) also according to tails tube sonic prime is also canon
“Everything is Canon” so that means Hyper Sonic IS canon
My headcanon is that shadow can teleport short distance without a chaos emerald. He didn't have enough energy because he was tired.
i had no idea he was doing long form
I think Sonic Prime is also canon, at least implied by the recent Tails Tube.
DarkSpine Sonic is my favorite Sonic transformation, it’s goated 🔥🐐
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Darkspine is your goat but hyper sonic is strong but sadly is canon
@@Mark_with_gun Why sadly? Isn’t hyper sonic good? Like well favorited in the fan base and franchise?
Well I was a fan of sonic but I'm now a fan of metal Sonic
Like metal Sonic more than sonic the also I'm like hyper sonic that all
@@Mark_with_gun my fav hyper too amy hyper is cannon ?
Yo Tyrecordslol (not sure what to call you to be honest). When are we getting Sonic vs Kirby?
Edit: Didn’t know it was W.I.P. But with the remaining information you have, who do you think would win?
Video is in the works, I’m currently learning/playing all Kirby games but I’ll have a video by next month.
@OOFTheEDITOR yeah cuz all mario's are the same true but i understand peeps points but if u connect the dots y'know
@Tyrecordslol Ok thank you very much. Can’t wait to see it! I know you’re creating a masterpiece!
I would like to say that sonic is the embodiment of chaos, he can literally take down super forms in his base form and he has the most chaos energy than anyone else. So tapping into positive, dark and hyper seem pretty easy for him
While there is possible no evidence of it, I actually like the thought that Shadow can use Chaos abilities with the energy within his body, like Teleporting short distances, or massively damaging his body with Chaos Blast, but if he uses a Chaos Emerald as a conduit, he can not only greatly decrease the risk to his own body with more powerful moves, but make them more powerful, too.
They are. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about
@@reggielacey2235 Ah, I see. Good to know. First time on this guy's vids, so was not entirely sure.
The comic only says chaos control. We even see him using chaos abilities later on and even in the first arc
I really hope the movies dive into Sonic's other forms. and maybe even have the werehog as part of a cutaway joke or something.
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3:56 well there is super amy (somewhat) since she can go super but the trailer for the plus dlc states it as supercharged so its amy just using 1 chaos emerald and is probably the same power level as charged sonic at the end of sonic movie 1
Thank you very much for the information.
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I may be wrong but I believe this is the order from weakest to strongest
3. 7 Chaos Emeralds
2. 1 Super Emerald
1. 7 Super Emeralds and The Master Emerald
I believe that the Master Emerald hid itself in another dimension put all it’s power into the Locked Super Emeralds and it could only be accessed by putting the Chaos Emeralds into the Locked Super Emeralds.
Now after this the Master Emerald began recharging but Mecha Sonic broke into the dimension and tried wielding the Super Emeralds but was unable to due to not having the 7 Chaos Emeralds (He didn’t know he needed them or that the Master Emerald was charging) so he stole the Master Emerald and could only wield the power the Master Emerald had recharged which was equivalent to the 7 Chaos Emeralds. After Mecha Sonic was destroyed and only Sonic, Tails and Knuckles knew about the dimension, the Master Emerald returned to the Super Emeralds and took them and itself to an even more hidden dimension so it could recharge then sit and wait for Sonic and the gang to desperately needs it’s power.
Nah yall saying great vid even tho it came out just 33 seconds ago 😭😭😭🙏🙏
And the video is 8 mins
@@navinsingh5399😡 watelmalon cat will win. this a joke kk
to be honest i like the super emeralds being in another dimension is kinda cool is like to achive the ultimate form you need to go to another dimension to get that ultimate form wich i love it
Remains me of the Frieza saga where Gohan and the others find the namek dragon Balls on namek
The chaos emeralds are in another dimension too. Iizuka was referring to the special stage dimensions
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@@TheMasonGamer Oooh that cool i did know that
In my point of view, if they re added hyper forms into the games, every antagonist would be utterly fucked.
Did you know that originally each island had it's own set of chaos emeralds. That's why in sonic 1 there were 6 emeralds. In some of the game gear games there were 5. And in sonic spinball there were 16.
That's why they all look different and in Aosth im pretty sure there were like 4 or 5 different emeralds as well.
Not to Mention, Hyper Sonic has that Midair Dash Ability that snaps all enemies on screen out of existence
So Hyper Sonic has that OP Ability AND he is 7x Stronger than Ultra Sonic
I want Hyper Sonic to return, but If they wanted to bring Hyper Sonic Back, they would have to create a Villain So OP that its impossible to comprehend, so its heavily unlikely he comes back
The thing with boom not being canon... Any at the end of frontiers says something about checking in with cream AND sticks, so in a way boom is canon, or at least the TV series is
I love you long form videos keep up the good work❤
Lik bro we LITERALLY SEEA IN THE FIRST ARC OF SONIC IDW SHADOW USING CHAOS SPEAR AGAINST SUPER NEO METAL as well as him using chaos abilities against jet storm and wave later on...but let's just ignore those. He can use chaos abilities with the emerald, case closed. Hell we even see in sonic shadow generations shadoW USES chaos powers with an emerald. The idw comic literally only says chaos CONTROL. This is all just your headcanon that you can't prove
So the main 4 gets Hyper. So now we just need a Hyper form for Shadow.
No they don't. Only hyper sonic is canon
Well, Hyper was used, but now they can’t be used since the Super Emeralds reside either deep in the special stages or in another dimension, and the emeralds beside the master emerald in Hidden Palace are either just grey now or are just statues
That doesn't make sense. Shadow is created with chaos energy so to say that he doesn't have chaos powers makes no sense whatsoever.
Yeah, I agree
Hyper Amy doesn’t exist. Amy’s ‘Hyper’ form is actually called Super Amy in game. Sonic, Tails and Knuckles are the only ones to have official Hyper forms.
6:26 and well chaos in sa1 used the negative energy of the emeralds to go perfect and the fake emeralds contain a lot of negative energy so sonic could theoretically go dark with enough rage and emeralds beside him
By the way, everything IS canon. Sonic boom had this confirmed in an interview. All of these separate continuities take place in different dimensions. While none of them are canon to the mainline continuity they are all different dimensions that exist within the same cosmology. Sort of like a multiverse theory or something.
The emerald missing from sonic 1 was the cyan emerald just to clarify
Hyper is canon they just havent been adding it in whixh i think they shouldve been kept it going
This video is very nice because there's a lot of evidence and proof.
No it doesnt . FACT there is evidence against what hes saying like the idw comics and Ian flynn
4:25 it is yes because his dna contains chaos energy and no because most of that dna can only be accsessed by an emerald
So we just gonna act like you were saucing this Ganon up with the homemade BBQ special in this clip
0:58
Bro was comboing the bricks off him
Bro shadow is such a fraud, he is nothing without his shoes, and emerald
People forget that the Super Emeralds in the Archie comics are separate from the Chaos emeralds. But the game Super Emeralds are enhanced Chaos Emeralds
Hyper knuckles and hyper sonic are to this day the strongest characters in the sonic world,probably invencible characters,even more if they fight together
In my opinion, I don’t think hypersonic is stronger than ultrasonic the chaos emeralds work differently in Archie comics but this video was absolutely amazing Ty is cooking
In my opinion hyper sonic had SO MUCH power that the emeralds got scattered up and got destroyed and sonic Can't use them and he has to fix them
They did Amy so dirty with her super form 🤣she literally only got a lighter pink 😭
Weren't the Super Emeralds in Sonic Mania? They were next to the Master Emerald shrine just like in Sonic 3&K. I know they were grey and cracked but i honestly think that if they fused the Chaos Emeralds into the broken Super Emeralds with the Master Emeralds power harnessed by Knuckles (who could already piece back together the Master Emerald's shards) then they could bring back the Super Emeralds stronger than ever. (Btw i'm pretty sure the Chaos Emeralds and other gems have their power multiply depending on how many you have)
Please talk about Knuckles ENERJAK MODE
If anything Sonic related can be canon then I have a fan theory: Super Sonic can use some of the master emerald’s power to supercharge into Hyper Sonic
Or you could say that’s my headcanon
I should create a robot society were everyone is a robot they all listen to me they all work normally there all happy it would be a perfect society
What I think happens is that Shadow uses the fake emeralds that tails made in sa2. We saw how sonic did it, although he struggled. Shadow however, has much more mastery over Chaos Control. We’ve seen Shadow use that teleportation in issue 5 or 6 of IDW without an emerald, since we know that Doctor Starline had all seven (atleast within the first 12 issues)
Shadow never used a fake emerald
@@donovanjr284reading is a fundamental skill. He did not say anything about shadow using a fake emerald. He said sonic did.
@@ssjsensei9143 yeah reading is a fundamental skill.....
In the first sentence he literally mentioned shadow used FAKE emeralds that Tails made SMH
@@donovanjr284 I concede to the fact that I misread the statement. My apologies good sir.🗿
The hyper forms are canon. We just can’t access the forms because the emeralds that are needed were sent to a different dimension
5:56 Shadow doesn't even sleep
0:04 well you can fit it into the canon since the super emeralds are empty husks in mania which therefore means sonic lost the form as punishment by tikal for probably using it too much by turning the super emeralds Back into the normal Chaos emeralds since its basically a win button in s3&k
My diamond pick will mine the heck out of that like button
Is it just me but is sonic under ground so under rated
Think about it like the multiverse there's alternative universes and each Sonic is different
Wait, so Sonic Battle was retconned? (Because, in the end of the game, Emerl took all of the Chaos Emerald and fought against Shadow, and he used the chaos power and even said he can use withou the chaos emerald)
The Archie comics were never canon, where sally acorn in the games if it is
2:35 well sadly the phantom ruby shenanigans in mania and forces have been retconned by ian flynn since the writer for forces (which wasnt him) didn't play the classic games nor generations and in mania we see the super emeralds as empty husks and in my headcanon tikal with her chaos spirit power extracted the chaos emeralds from the super emeralds as a means to punish sonic for using the Form
That...doesn't make any sense for Tikal to do that...Since we literally see the Master Emerald voluntarily gave Sonic access the Super Emeralds in the first place, so why should Tikal punish Sonic just because he used the form and also uses this power to rescue the Master Emerald?
In origins and origins plus sonic amy tails and knuckles the classic versions can be hyper
The canonical reason for hyper not being seen is because canonically the super emeralds were warped to another dimension right?
I say there still canon i just hope one day it will come to the mordern games soon like in frontiers it almost happen in sonic frontiers where sonic gose cyber super sonic almost hyper so i hope one day it will come back soon
The chaos emeralds get there power from the master emerald which grants them the ability too turn into super chaos emeralds but there is one gem that is more powerful that is the phantom ruby which has more power then the master emerald and can cancel out the power of the master emerald
Eventually 3&k original still is canon and no hyper sonic and knuckles and super tails do exist Sega just hates trying to make sonic dragon ball when they already did
Angel island is really in another dimension ? Cuz Frontiers definitely mentions Angel island. So iizuka (idk remember his last name) kind of lied.
I think its more of a power scaling problem. What would be Unleashed with the super emerald ? Frontiers, Heroes, Generations ? Most of the Super Sonic fights would be much different, because Hyper Sonic is the ultimate form. He could be stronger than Cyber Super Sonic (not the blue glitched one) or as powerful.
And lets not forget that in Frontiers, Super Sonic could do barely any damage to End Supreme. He had to control the cyber corroption to get there. And if the emeralds power are absolute... Hyper is stronger
When u think Abt it Hyper Sonics power gotta be boundless with Super Sonic already having infinite to unlimited power the imagination being the limit
Hyper Sonics power is just incalculable and insane
i see but idk it kinda is risky altho hyper sonic has a point and tyrecordslol at best it's a hypthesis i mean super sonic scales to low outer so idk hyper sonic in games has no real evidence even then unlike the comics hyper sonic was gettin toggled by a final bot from eggman and there is no way that bot is boundless besides ultra sonic isn't in games and that is archoe which leaves hyper sonic in a ? area
Why the hell did CZcams I autorecommend sonic unleashed
TO TYRE:
GO TO THE START OF AN TAILS TUBE EPISODE TOP RIGHT YOU WILL SEE COSMOS PLANT POT SO SONIC X IS CANNON
Beat you up by 12 seconds bebebebeb 😂
7:51 bro used this comic for a reason in the top left.
Bro became game theory 💀
Why did he say they are in another dimension? There literally just powered up chaos emeralds with master emerald energy
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I say excuses excuses because hyper Sonic was scrapped from Mania
Also no chaos snap and blast and spear dont need chaos emeralds. Ian flynn has stated that multiple times and we literally see this in game. And I'll believe ian flynn over you
Hyper modern sonic and shadow are cannon in Archie comics
Silver the goat fr
1:12 - 1:49 I thought the chaos emeralds transformed into the super emeralds, so how can the super emeralds be in another dimension, when the chaos eneralds still exist currently.......am I missing sonething?
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What a banger vid
Sonic may solo lots of verses but not the scp foundation
Funny how only classic sonic became hyper Sonic
Can u do a sonic vs goku video great vid btw
Khalil Hyper Transformation
But is Archie Sonic and the Archie Comics Canon now? Some people still Tell me they arent and some Tell me they are so can someone explain it to me now
What’s the background music being used at the beginning?🤨🤔🧐
It is not canon since sonic 3 & knuckles follows the super sonic ending. The super emeralds exist though, the concept of the form should be canon, but it actually appearing and existing is not.
Does sonic have weapons?
Well sonic is infinite speed so he can go to that dimension
Yay
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