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I recently acquired a Tormach 1100mx. I've started to outgrow my existing mills and have been looking for a VMC that was feature rich but that I could also get into my basement. I show the rigging process of getting it into my basement, assembly, and then machining a tool holder for it. Also includes some 3D printing and plasma cutting. Finally I take the tool breakage detection and rigid tapping features for a test drive.
My videos usually take 100+ hours of work and a lot of money in tools and materials. I've made a patreon if you're interested in supporting the creation of these projects: / stuffmadehere
Oh also this video is not sponsored by Tormach. I bought this mill with my hard earned bucks. - Věda a technologie
Your shop is siiiiiiick.
Late is better than nothing. Welcome to the club.
Your late so am i
Yayyy, I’m subbed to you
Destroy more phones ❤️
But will it scratch at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a level 7
How normal people think:
I can't believe how heavy this is!
How he thinks:
I can't believe how much potential energy this has!
Those two are very different things. Weight of things practically does not change with height. So, something's as heavy at a millimeter above the ground as it is say a meter above the ground. Potential energy, however, increases linearly with the height. So, the potential energy of the same thing at one meter above the ground is a thousand times more than the same at a millimeter above the ground. Kind of like the difference between jumping off one step of a staircase and jumping off the roof of a 40 storied building.
@@Samrat_096 laymans terms: higher makes booboo bigger.
@@Samrat_096 There are no words to describe how his comment went over your head, potentially.
@@RushMoore I’d think my reply and the whole context went over your head. I guess we’re even. I’ll still try though. When you say something’s “heavy” while lifting it, you’re concerned about your own self if you’re the one who’s lifting it or the mechanism with which you’re lifting. But he’s concerned about the machine falling off and breaking apart because of it’s potential energy since he almost lifted it a meter above the ground.
This is what I thought too.
"Sheet metal is expensive"
Buys $25,000 mill
with ATC, with the automatic tool height thingy, with tooling... I'm guessing like $40k
mill will last 10-15 years. sheet metal is disposable. will spend more on sheet metal in 10-15 years than 25k. let's not go into the time saving, less tool wear and less scrapped parts having an upgraded mill, but worth mentioning.
@@thepjup4507 Why does a mill only last 10-15 years? What exactly happens when it breaks and how does a person know when it's nearing the end of its life?
@@gabedarrett1301 just using that time frame as a reference. also lets assume that in 10-15 years if you are successful youll need to upgrade, id say thats pretty accurate to a growing manufacturing company. there are 50+ year old mills still going strong today facing heavy use with no problem at all. main major breakdown is the motors. theyre easier to replace on older mills, probably why people can still run them like new today. was a pretty arbitrary number to be completely honest with you.
You can’t buy that mill if you spend it all on sheet metal. 🤔
Man I love your deadpan humor. Nearly choked on my food when you said "I'm going for that harbor freight aesthetic . . . to make it as thin as humanly possible." I was just thinking about that after buying a cheapo air fan for my room. The stands were stamped sheet metal and I'm sure it's impossible to make them any thinner without it buckling under its own weight :D
Really hope your channel grows. I like the clean nothing dragged out format.
me as well - no shame in buying a small prosumer mill if you have the work to fill it and the knowledge to compensate for its lack of mass and hatred. A friend of mine taught me a thing or two about using them. A rival company has one to run graphite with the intention to run it lights-out for 5 years and replace it because of the wear - cost / benefit trade-off for them at a great price.
Ur guys wish came true :)
Yeah
Hello friends, perhaps you would consider giving my channel a look. I do not have as many tools, but my robots would appreciate the support.
"Checked itself before it wrecked itself. This is the origin of this phrase"
i like this guy
L R came here for this, did not disappoint
FYI: Ice Cube was a machinist before he became a rapper!
I lied. :)
@Dragon Master he could probably spell CNC. 😆
@@mrburns366 his father was actually a machinist lol
Big chips in your Haas is bad for your health.
"You accidentally hit it with your hammer" - I gasped
"I barely scratched the surface of this machine" - I lol'd
please never say the phrase "I lol'd" again
@@jco_sfm yeah you're right, I meant it as an abbreviation of 3 words, but I see it reads as 1. Maybe L'd.O.L. wouldn't've read as poorly, but it's probably better to write every word, the only way sane say it.
@@kittadyne don't listen to him say whatever you want...Just don't say L'd.O.L. hahaha
Q: How many mills do you need?
A: N+1 or S-1
-- N is the number of mill you have.
-- S is the number of mills that results in separation from your partner.
What if N = S-1?
@@Y337n3ss Then you're at the point where you have to choose between your partner and or getting another mill.
dont worry his partner is also engineer.
@@ayraen120 Actually the way it's written the two numbers are at a perfect ratio. The number of mills you need is equal to the number of mills that leads to a divorce, minus one.
EDIT: Please don't listen to me. I was wrong however I will leave this comment up as an explanation for future readers.
@@Y337n3ss no it’s s=n+1
Alternate title for this channel is: "This Young Tony". Great content, man!
Came here for this comment
Husband came in "Oh your watching This Old Tony.." Nope other guy ;)
10 seconds in I thought the same.
Everybody copies Tony. Of course a new Hass costs a good four times as much. There are broken tap removers-they work. I know.
I wanna see them crossover.
"Hey, cool tools! What do you make with them?"
"Oh, I make tools mostly."
"And what do you make with those tools?"
"More tools."
This is literally my plans lmao
either know where to get good tools or make your own tools
This guy actually has a whole factory at home
Yes and with his knowledge and ability he could easily make a good living from that if he wanted to. But this is just his hobby...
@@ahaha8 Do you know if he has a job and what does he do for a living?
KingDavid he can make a pretty penny with this channel, if that’s his goal. But i don’t know what he usually does
@@ahaha8 I don't think it is just a hobby.
@@DemonKyle he probably contracts small run work. Which with minimal overhead (he's in his basement) he could be banking some easy money.
"With my luck"
With your luck you'd probably accidentally learn quantum physics and shit.
If you're on the fence about making a video about the gas powered wagon, I'm interested in seeing it
Someone was finally brave enough to call out big Tap
Love the “This Old Tony” vibe.
do you know "ave", lol this is another level of jokes
I was taught on Haas machines in college. And I have a great appreciation for Haas mills. I know people shit on them a lot for being light machines, but really that’s what CNC machining is. Light cuts but really fast. And Haas mills do it perfectly.
You have a "Give it a Go" spirit, and a wonderful sense of humor!
Subbed, really fantastic channel, actually had it on in the background as I was working in my shop... and about halfway through paused it, because I wanted to be able to pay attention better. I can see elements of many established machining channels in yours, but enjoy seeing how you blend them to make them your own. Keep it up, look forward to seeing more content!
"It feels like there's nothing here. But it's stiff and should do the job..."
I hear that a lot
I say that lot
Ive never heard that ive only heard "it doesnt fit!"
@@danielh5030 watch out guys. We have a badass right here
@@danielh5030 Should consider start wearing smaller condoms maybe?
That's what she said. 16:22
So glad that I came across your channel! Keep up the good work! I love your videos. I’m a CNC Machinist at a tool and die shop. I’ve been a machinist for about a year and a half now and I think I have learned more by watching a few of your videos than I have in the last year of working 😂!
“Harbor freight aesthetic”
How does this guy have such a broad skill set, it all has to do with creating things but in so many different ways that not just any average person knows. My new fav channel❤️
A mechanical engineering degree probably+tons of experience probably(including teaching himself stuff related to electrical engineering).
@@florac1995 And having like $1,000,000 worth of equipment in his basement.
A good friend bought a similar unit 20+ years ago. It was quickly the backbone of a new business.
I just graduated from college/ trade school for machining and I had a blast with the CNC mills and lathe. I'm jealous at the fact you have a CNC mill in your own house
Great video bud.
@Clock Murph bud
He’s not your buddy, guy.
Great straight to the point comment, bud
I didn't think I would see you here! I love your content!
Buddaay
Good stuff. You're a brave man tackling that machine move down a slippery slope by yourself!
Thanks - though to be fair my bravery was bolstered by the knowledge that all my rigging equipment was rated for 10-20x the load. My biggest fear was the crate tipping but I had attached 2x4 anti-tip legs in those directions so it was (hopefully) nearly impossible. In any case I was definitely breathing easier when I reached the bottom of the hill :)
Ten Years Later !!
Hey just wanted to say your videos are awesome! It’s really great that you take the time to really explain your concepts in a down to earth matter that really makes everything you make, make more sense! Keep it up and I look forward to many more videos!
im so incredibly jealous of all the amazing tools you have access to. Great vid!
He Probably RIPPED !! EVERYBODY !!! OFF !! TO !! GET !! IT !!!!
Huge fan of this video! Keep up the quality content! Also, there is no problem with a Tormach. Some people have problems getting the proper power to run a Haas that isn't a TM model. I have setup and ran Haas, DMG, Mazak, and Hurcos. I would not hesitate to buy a Tormach if I had the opportunity.
I can really see this channel getting big. Your format for these videos makes them fly by and great content! I will be watching everything you post!
Narrator: He was correct.
When I first watched this video when it came out, I didn't know why you were so good at reviewing "maker tools," but given your history at formlabs and knowing that you had a significant part in producing more -- it totally makes sense
This is amazing, I just starting machining for work a year ago, and I hope that as I get better at my job I’ll be able to half the stuff you do. I’m just so far behind in the physics, engineering departments.
I swear, I find a new stuff made here video in my recommended like every month, even though I watched all the videos when I found the channel. It's like there are new videos appearing but they're from 6 months ago. That said, it's a good problem to have. I'm always happy for more of this channel
I recommend grinding one of your copper spot welder rods flat. This ensures that you have no markings on one side (an easy way to get a prettier side) ;) Just put it in the lathe and it's perfectly flat. The weld is still just as strong;)
I’ve been renovating my workshop and watching your videos inspires me to do things properly and pay attention to detail - they also make me want to build more complicated things, and use math as a tool more often (love math). So thanks!
I’m an engineering major and love physics and your videos are oddly enjoyable to watch even tho they bring back ptsd😅 I’m so jealous of your workshop that shits looks so fun
Nice new machine! Can you do a shop tour?
The shop is a bit of a mess and I'm not sure it's all that interesting but I could do one if there was enough interest.
@@StuffMadeHere We like to see other people's mess because it makes us feel not so ashamed.
@@StuffMadeHere Everyone loves shop and tool tours, no matter how messy! I've picked up so many good ideas from other peoples setups / junk! Thanks for sharing!
Id like that
@@StuffMadeHere Just make sure you pick up the panties lying around the room then dont worry about the rest of the mess. This is basically the rules I operate under when expecting company.
I've been looking for a channel that had a MX series. Please keep it up.
Broad skills, with huge energy and enthusiasm. Very impressive!
This made me chuckle. I remember when one of the shops i was working at didnt have these self checking based on Z of tool length. Whatever you wanna call it. And would constantly break reamers after a drill had gone through. We had to have reminders to check especially after those tool cycles. It was a mess before implementing the touch off check. Now you csn pretty much go get a coffee knowing ur cnc wont bust or crash in the meantime.
👍👍👍👍. CZcams just recommended your channel in my feed and I really enjoyed this first episode (first for me). Looking forward to some great binge watching to get caught up and to your future content. A couple of observations so far - Your sense of humor is extremely entertaining. Thanks for all the effort and energy to share this with us. And you must be incredibly industrious, by the number of cuts on your hands and the bandaids that appear at various times on different fingers. I have that problem too. Stay safe 😊
TOO !! LAZY !! TO FILE !! OFF !! THE !! EDGES !!; CHINA !! MK - 2 !!!
OMG, I love your channel! I've been binge watching all your videos today. Your explanations are great, your tools very cool, the videography is spot on, and your experimentations are so interesting. I love the unhurried way in which you present your videos, it is very calming. Keep it up, you are doing fantastic! Ciao, Marco.
Amazing content. It is hard to find engineering videos with this technical quality.
I've binge watched all your videos like the world was on some sort of lockdown and we are confined to our houses. Can't wait to see what kinda crazy things you come up with next. Much respect for dropping the knowledge on where the phrase "check yourself before you wreck yourself" came from ;)
omg the self burn at "I barely scratched the surface of this machine" with the video of the literal scratch lmao :D
I think the plastic tool holder is more suited for the job. What I’m thinking is: If something gets stuck between the tool and holding device it would have a higher probability to scratch and or seize the tool if the holder is made out of Al rather than plastic.
Great content and I’m really happy to have found your channel !
thanks so much for the incredible insight into your design and build process. I also love your sense of humor :)
I like your ingenuity with getting it into your workshop. I have a very similar situation, 440 hopefully coming soon.
Dude I love your channel it amazing quality and really fun! you got a new subscriber!
I've always had a high regard for Tormach, but now I know they sound like a flat-four Subaru starting up it's even better!
Serious ingenuity in getting that CNC into the shop. Most people bring over 12 friends and something gets broken. Great Channel!
This makes me miss my machine shop class in school.. we used to use these machines and I remember making a set of brass dice, a steel hammer and a couple other cool things
Great video. You make me want to add more sheet metal tools into my shop! Subbed.
Machine “checking self before wrecking self” that was awesome lol
Your content is high quality no distractions, delight to watch.
LOOOVED the part of the video where you got the machine down to the shop. Totally been there.
16:19 Video Series Idea!
I like this concept where you bring in the idea of Harbor Freight, and make it yourself.
"Make it the HF way..."
Congrats man! mx series with servo is really a thing. Way better than the normal 1100
The best part was watching the various Band-Aids moving from finger to finger! Love the videos. I think I have a serious case of tool jealousy.
Ive had Tormachs for over a decade. They've come SO far and keep getting better.
You insane bugger you! Finally, someone with the same mindset as me. I lugged my 900 pound lathe/mill from a moving van to my garage with a series of large dowels and a makeshift arch/comealong. I love it. You da man.
All reasonable cnc's can do broken tool detection several ways. 1) spindle load is too high 2) Servo load too high 3) Predicted position vs actual or the time to reach position is too long 4) vibrations to high or 5) tool height setter to periodically check. Ive personally "tested" each of these ways
Great video! I can only dream about having a shop like yours. Keep making these great videos!
I can’t believe how heavy of cuts you took your first time out! Great videos!
Wife: How many mills do you need?
Me: Yes
MySchizo Buddy only one mill here, but four lathes.
@@melgross you can lathe on a mill tho. just not as big sizes xD
@@therealsourc3 well, sort of. But very poorly.
@@melgross Well.... if you're clever about it, everything is a poor lathe.
@@noahcarver1707 true. A friend uses his Dremel as his lathe.
I would love to hear what you do/did for a living!
Scotty Oh Dang. Formlabs is an awesome company. That explains a lot
Not doubting you scotty but how do you know this?
@@sandblasting money doesn’t buy brain. You can tell this man is a genius
I think you'll find you're looking at it.
the first few seconds of the end mill going to work sounds so good
Im loving your videos my man. I didn't realize how much I liked this stuff
"The cloth I used was basically made of lint" lol
Who knew warrior-poet Ice Cube was actually an OG cnc operator
I think you're the coolest person I've seen.
Cannot believe you're the same person who was doing 3d printed tools for folding sheet metal, when I saw that video I just did not expect anything more than a person who makes sheet metal assemblies for a living.
Seriously, expectations and mind blown. I hope to one day be half as cool as you are; I'm 24 years old and yet I'm talking like a kid after watching your videos.
Wish the best for you.
That's what I'm talking about. I'm thankful for accessable videos! Happy Thanksgiving!
Love your videos. As a beginner coder, electrition, and hacker you have blown my mind. I am currently 15 and hope to some day be as smart, funny, and wide ranged as you are. I am subscribed and hope to see more videos soon.
HA, you have a walkout basement! Now you have to come up with a better reason for sleeping with the enemy!!! :-D
I really enjoyed this. More than even Primitive Engineering in many ways. Its a weird feeling becuse i am also the most envious from any other CZcams video I have seen. Youre living the life humans are trying to make easier to access. This is happiness
Lovely machine. So jealous! Began my engineering apprenticeship in the 1990s running cnc and manual Mills and lathes and loved it. Back then it was still paper punched tapes used for programming lol....not the best in a coolant and swarf rich environment :-) enjoy! Can't wait to see what you make
"it's stiff and should do the job acceptably..." That is what she said
I cracked up at "maybe machining aluminum toilet paper is not a great business idea" lmaooo
I am impressed by the degree of practical knowledge this guy has - knowing engineering and coding in theory is one thing, being able to set up a new machine perfectly fine is a another. Knowing what step to next... yes, fine... but actually doing it produces a whole lot of questions on how exactly doing it without potentially wrecking the machine early, if not executed well enough. Great job!
I've used one of these before. Just briefly, but it was fun!
Just subbed. Great stuff. Insanely organized shop. However... I’d dial back the ThisOldTony genre a bit though. You guys are two of my three favorite channels to watch right now, but it’s slightly odd yours following the TOT style and format. It’s great stuff. Be yourself.
11:05 Whats that?
A toolholder Holder.
What does it do?
It holds the toolholder which holds the Tool!
Cool!
you forgot that the tool holder stand holds the tool holder holders. its a tool holder holder holder.
Well shit, it sits on some kind of a bench or table right. So that’s a tool holder holder holder holder.
Great content commentary and cinema! You do great videos thank you for taking the time.
Homeboy said he did math on how slippery grass is!! I love this channel, this guy is the man!
Checking if a tool is broken before using it is good, but it is an after-the-fact check. Maybe what Tormach should do is utilize a current sense circuit to detect when a tool path is not drawing as much current as it should, if it was actually cutting material. If a tool breaks mid-cut, the axis motors or/and spindle motor should experience a lower current draw while in a cutting path. That should cause a fault, suggesting that a tool has broken during a cutting operation. The machine should stop and give a fault warning that an operator can then investigate before proceeding.
A lot, if not most CNC machines already have Tool Break software on them that monitor the axis and spindle loads as a tool is cutting.
The "clown car" comment put me over the edge. I'm subscribing. :-)
A team of material handling birds couldn't nest them tighter.
"it feels like there's nothing here, yet it's stiff and should do the job acceptably."
Now that is the most elaborate "that's what she said" ever
Been enjoying your content Thanks. On that broken test indicator you can pop the clear cover off and push the needle back on the shaft. Maybe use a little lock tight to keep it from coming off again.
Well you've already made one more cooler thing than AVE has with his HAAS 😄
Hmm, yeah come to think of it AvE doesn't really cnc complicated parts
you should see the things edge precision makes
Has A.V.E GOT ONE !!??And he's PATTING !! HIS CHICKENS WITH !! AND KEEPS IT !! TOO OFTEN !! IN THE VICE !!! UNCLE BUMBLE !! YOU !! KNOW !! WHAT !!
"Barely scratched the surface", yeah we have seen that.
Very cool we need you with as much machinery as possible 😀
This is really cool, im in highschool learning cnc machining, and i couldnt even imagine having my own machine!
And I thought my cnc-basement transition was difficult...
Good !! Old !! Bomb !! SHELTER !!
12:29 "who wore it better" bro i love the jokes hahaha
Just recently came across your channel - instant sub and really looking forward to your future content and catching up with your vids thus far.
i am on a quest to watch all your videos. 2 more to go :) i love every single one of them! You're doing amazing stuff i really like your earlier videos a lot too where you are doing pressing and tool making and stuff. good stuff =)))))))
may i suggest you use 3-flute end mills for aluminium
And drills
Ben W No; three-flute drills for aluminum are not a great idea.
Dušan Pešić I agree; three flute end mills for aluminum are what I prefer too, but two flutes would be able to take advantage of the Tormach’s capability (or lack there of) better.
@@Icutmetal why would that be? if there's enough room for chip evacuation your material removal rate is higher with more flutes given the same chip load
Won't help much anyway. This is a bottom of the barrel CNC toy that's bendy and not stiff at all, chatters and vibrates like crazy.
Do you mind saying how much you have in the machine? Thx. for making the video.
Shop Hacks I think they start at 20k
Your shop is what I want to have when I get a house! I have 3D printers but no metal machining equipment yet. Im a robotics engineering student with 1 semester left for my masters so hopefully in a couple years ill have my own shop making cool stuff too.
Within this block, there is a tool holder-holder hiding.... 🔥♥️ Love it!