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  • @SethAurelius94
    @SethAurelius94 Před 7 lety +162

    You only need to hear Kellogg once to get that voice ingrained in to your head.

    • @SpartanK4102
      @SpartanK4102 Před 7 lety +18

      Seth Hackley "At least we still have the backup"

    • @krashd
      @krashd Před 7 lety +3

      Kellogg reminds me a little of Top Dollar from The Crow, how he says stuff like "We've all got our demons friend, but no hard feelings.. you were just in the wrong place during my time!"

    • @miloconklin9325
      @miloconklin9325 Před 5 lety +2

      he has a good voice though, that's for sure. voice actor did a great job!

    • @QuanTrietLOL
      @QuanTrietLOL Před 2 lety

      Took me 10 seconds to go Oh shiet. And then I know exactly how fucked these people are

  • @mdkd99
    @mdkd99 Před 6 lety +272

    Man, storys like these are the reason why I am the general of the Minutemen and why I destroyed the institute. The best hope for the Commonwealth and the settlers are the Minutemen.

    • @demise6017
      @demise6017 Před 2 lety +3

      I sides with the institute and slaughtered people with my synths

    • @game--killer197
      @game--killer197 Před 2 lety +34

      Good to hear that from you general, be cause I've hear of a settlement that needs your help....

    • @mdkd99
      @mdkd99 Před 2 lety +17

      @@game--killer197 If you have certain mods: I'm not in danger, I am the danger. You think someone knocks on the door and marks my map? No, I'm the one who marks their map

    • @maestrofeli4259
      @maestrofeli4259 Před 2 lety +10

      @@mdkd99 Next time I play fallout I'll download a mod that allows me to send preston to do the random quests

    • @mdkd99
      @mdkd99 Před 2 lety +7

      @@maestrofeli4259 Minutemen radiant squads is the mod for you. Send minutemen to do your radiant quests for you

  • @nicholascross3557
    @nicholascross3557 Před 7 lety +447

    An affable 'tech collector', a few hundred caps and a smidge of patience would have gotten the Institute everything. Granted, it wouldn't have been what they'd hoped for, but also no-one would have even suspected their interest. On a list of bad ideas, what they did at University Point would probably be followed by 'Testing a light socket by sticking your tongue in it.'

    • @tr9000
      @tr9000 Před 7 lety +46

      And they would have gotten some nice weapon technology too. Considering everyone seems to hate the institute's version of energy weapons, they need as much help as they can get.

    • @-DeScruff
      @-DeScruff Před 7 lety +33

      Exactly! What is... lets say 900 caps, to the Institute? Its no chump change sure, but if it was the data they wanted it would have been worth it.
      Even the data it apparently was, it still probably be worth 900 caps. I'd pay 900 caps to be able to make any laser weapons have unlimited ammo.

    • @-DeScruff
      @-DeScruff Před 7 lety +19

      Game By Game
      They probably are one of the few (if any) places that could manufacture a new bottle cap.
      Problem is though: if they manufactured a new bottlecap, it would look... well... new! Not like some 200 year old bottle cap thats been rusting away or whatever for 200 years.
      - It instantly be labeled as counterfeit.

    • @-DeScruff
      @-DeScruff Před 7 lety +7

      Game By Game
      That kind of weathering is not nearly the same as actual weathering... There are ways to tell fake weathering from real.
      Regardless If they seem to use Caps as currency as well, and if they started "printing" caps there would probably be mass inflation. - at least in the institute it's self.

    • @nicholascross3557
      @nicholascross3557 Před 7 lety +23

      While the Institute doesn't have an internal economy per se, having agents like Kellog and several informants means they'd need caps to pay them. However, we also know they send out scavenger teams and I'd hazard a guess that there's a merchant somehere who gets a lot of his stock from them, who is also likely to be the one to which their informants inform. On a side note, they could even give their agent orders via the Classical music radio, using the playlist as a cypher system. WWII level tradecraft.

  • @IH8COMERCIALRNB
    @IH8COMERCIALRNB Před 7 lety +688

    It sucks that you don't get the option to take over the settlement.

    • @fuzzydunlop7928
      @fuzzydunlop7928 Před 7 lety +54

      Gotta leave something for the modders to do.

    • @quintinelias7020
      @quintinelias7020 Před 6 lety +7

      IH8COMMERCIALRNB yea I know

    • @ltfreeborn
      @ltfreeborn Před 5 lety +32

      yea its these moments in FO4 that Bethesda missed out on

    • @ltfreeborn
      @ltfreeborn Před 5 lety +21

      Bethesda: eh lets not make this a settleme...
      modders: NOPE already done

    • @MisterJohnDoe
      @MisterJohnDoe Před 4 lety +20

      I remember how I was running around the place looking for the workbench on my first play through, it looked like such a nice place to have a settlement

  • @howiewolowitz6842
    @howiewolowitz6842 Před 7 lety +837

    I wish this was a settlement it so big and epic

    • @massimiliano1408
      @massimiliano1408 Před 7 lety +50

      Howie Wolowitz there's a mod for it

    • @BigBadWolfieWolfs
      @BigBadWolfieWolfs Před 7 lety +43

      Mods are a blessing. For the most part.

    • @applesevilpie7176
      @applesevilpie7176 Před 7 lety +29

      I wouldnt mind it being a settlement but it's sunken in and looks unstable. Who says the Institute won't come back? I know there are mods out there and I so agree.

    • @troodon1096
      @troodon1096 Před 5 lety +25

      Especially since, lore-wise, it WAS a settlement... and everything is set up to make it one. Kind of wish you could make it one, yes.

    • @poopertrooper2567
      @poopertrooper2567 Před 4 lety +6

      @@applesevilpie7176 even if it comes back it would just be an added challenge to have the institute raid it once in a while instead of the raiders.

  • @FrogRaider1
    @FrogRaider1 Před 7 lety +496

    What is really upsetting is how that town turns on the family. Fallout 4 is full of examples of how petty and cowardly people have become.

    • @Elyseon
      @Elyseon Před 3 lety +5

      They're no better than the Institute. They're trash and deserve death.

    • @andyhens3387
      @andyhens3387 Před 3 lety +29

      They were all killed because of one person's inability to keep quiet, or lack of understanding the reality of the danger lurking in the shadows. It's not an unreasonable response to be angry.

    • @Elyseon
      @Elyseon Před 3 lety +52

      Wishing death upon a child who doesn't know any better and whose only crime was being curious? Oh please. Those cowards simply took it out on her since they couldn't touch the Institute's goons.

    • @andyhens3387
      @andyhens3387 Před 3 lety +12

      Didn't say that. However, the adults and those old enough to know the institute isn't a story are partially accountable as they didn't take control of the situation. If when scavenging it turned out that the tech was working and salvageable, why not just sell the machinery and move on. Only gonna attract danger by advertising that you are working on trying to uncover data, as the only ones who would be interested in the garbled account heard, are those who can take it by force (Insititute, BoS). Being angry at someone or some people cos they've brought down a terror that can wipe out a settlement without breaking a sweat and vanish again after isn't unreasonable. In their own nativity and lack of tempering Jaq's curiosity they've risked the lives of every settler there.

    • @mo0njelly
      @mo0njelly Před 3 lety +25

      @@andyhens3387 she was a child. She had no idea that the institute was even active, or not some ghost story. It was a little foolish, but it’s 100% on the institute.

  • @CooperativeCowboy25
    @CooperativeCowboy25 Před 7 lety +377

    FAN THEORY: Leslie and Curtis are the great great great grandparents of Jacqueline. :o

    • @oxhorn
      @oxhorn  Před 7 lety +144

      Woah. I like that theory.

    • @SethAurelius94
      @SethAurelius94 Před 7 lety +3

      Forgeta briliant

    • @connordoesthings8032
      @connordoesthings8032 Před 7 lety +3

      Forgeta Who are Leslie and Curtis?

    • @CooperativeCowboy25
      @CooperativeCowboy25 Před 7 lety +23

      The man and woman scientist in the bunker.

    • @krashd
      @krashd Před 7 lety +35

      Decent theory, but they left the bunker just 2 weeks in to the 'war' so unless they immediately stumbled across a vault they would have quickly become sterile/infertile and then either died or became ghouls - either way, no offspring.

  • @HanLi1984
    @HanLi1984 Před 6 lety +156

    This puts the nail on institute coffin for me.

    • @modernsurvivalist5769
      @modernsurvivalist5769 Před 5 lety +7

      Its all a point of view thing. Governments do shady things for good reasons. Good and evil is all just point of view.

    • @yasurething5417
      @yasurething5417 Před 5 lety +40

      ModernSurvivalist 57 you would have to have some messed up point of view to think slaughtering a town of innocent people is “for the greater good”.

    • @lucasbanks8442
      @lucasbanks8442 Před 3 lety +7

      @@yasurething5417 modern survivalist has a point, during WW2 when the US bombed Japan murdering over 150,000 Civilians. Some people seen it as for the greater good others seen it as Unnecessary

    • @MrPsych77
      @MrPsych77 Před 3 lety +13

      @@lucasbanks8442 difference is the alternative was worse it is speculated that a ground invasion would have killed even more people. Did the institute really have no other alternative than killing the whole town? Could they not have sent a specialist to help uncover the data and compensate the town? So no there was no reason for the slaughter. What they did was an atrocity and they need to answer for it. The institute wasn't university point's greatest hope.

    • @hyndquart5241
      @hyndquart5241 Před 3 lety +19

      @@lucasbanks8442 big difference between tactical bombing and absolute slaughter of a town. American either bombed and ended the war quick, or fought fiercely loyal japanese people on their own land. The institute just waltzed into this town and demanded tech that people didn't even know they had. And without another question, razed the town to the ground. No the didn't make a hard decision, they slaughtered innocent people because they didn't get what they wanted. Terrible faction, terrible ethics.

  • @no-rd5tn
    @no-rd5tn Před 7 lety +291

    Holotape within a holotape

    • @oxhorn
      @oxhorn  Před 7 lety +162

      They put a holotape in your holotape so you could holotape while you holotape

    • @no-rd5tn
      @no-rd5tn Před 7 lety +12

      Haha

    • @gunjesus7110
      @gunjesus7110 Před 4 lety +15

      @@oxhorn I think the sole survivor is a synth because the synth assulter said " destruction of fellow synth identified". Just as he started shooting

    • @idkwhattocallmyselfbruh
      @idkwhattocallmyselfbruh Před 4 lety +6

      Paladin Danse OH WOW, but how? The institute wasn’t even a thing in the beginning of the game, and he/she had a spouse that had a kid with him/her.

    • @BradyTheG
      @BradyTheG Před 4 lety +5

      They could have replaced him while he was in the “cryogenic stasis” and replaced his/her memory’s, tell me if I am wrong.

  • @GetReady4FreddyKrueger
    @GetReady4FreddyKrueger Před 4 lety +28

    "Just a gun"? As you were already aware and explained, the UP77 never needs to be reloaded. It is a laser rifle prototype with limitless power. The usefulness of discovering how that's possible would have been paramount to the Institute. Not only for a fusion reactor, but for solving power issues with many different forms of technology.

    • @MrPsych77
      @MrPsych77 Před 3 lety +2

      It doesn't justify the mass slaughter

    • @GetReady4FreddyKrueger
      @GetReady4FreddyKrueger Před 3 lety +10

      @@MrPsych77 I never said it did. The Institute's under-handed surface operations while pretending to be virtuous are reprehensible.

    • @agustinamagpie
      @agustinamagpie Před 2 lety +5

      It's not limitless, tho. It keeps eating away ammo, you just don't need to reload it manually. The only truly limitless weapon in the game is Aeternus, which basically is a cold fusion Gatling laser that requires one fusion core to kick it into gear and then will shoot indefinitely.

  • @cryofosorrow
    @cryofosorrow Před 7 lety +230

    Dude, you're a realy great story teller. I just love the tone, details, efforts and everthing you put to make you're lore videos. Keep continuing the good work !!

    • @oxhorn
      @oxhorn  Před 7 lety +45

      Thank you! I have many more to make :)

    • @austingx8295
      @austingx8295 Před 7 lety +2

      Florent Perret i agree very much

  • @thesnowedone
    @thesnowedone Před 7 lety +50

    I remember reading through all this when I first got to University Point. I must have spent hours around there searching and just reading and looking everything.... by the time I had finished looking through all the terminals and all the stuff in the bank vault I had came pretty much to the point that I'd never want to side with the Institute.
    Also if you read through all the facility terminals you can get the password to that back door to the credit union. They use one of the graduate student birthdays which you can find in the student records.
    I did much later do an institute play-through; as soon as I "finished" I ditched the save. Kinda glad I was right about my suspicions.

  • @tobythedog7478
    @tobythedog7478 Před 7 lety +207

    I wish we could of had University Point and Quincy as cites, Bston feels so empty without more main cites. I'd even be okay ith getting them as settlements, can you imagine take quincy back for the minutemen in a huge battle? Missed chances bethesda

    • @jasonlawrence6537
      @jasonlawrence6537 Před 4 lety +2

      Hi

    • @sergeantdoor7678
      @sergeantdoor7678 Před 2 lety +10

      Well I know this is 4 years ago but there might be a mod for University Point but I doubt it and for Quincy there is a creation club creation

    • @newbie6377
      @newbie6377 Před 2 lety +8

      @@sergeantdoor7678 there's no proper mod for it comparable to the quality and scale of Skyrim's Helgen Reborn. There are mods that take quincy and even make a settlement out of it but they're all buggy as fuck.

    • @sergeantdoor7678
      @sergeantdoor7678 Před 2 lety +2

      @@newbie6377 “Buggy as fuck” Why am I surprised?

  • @aliceponder
    @aliceponder Před 7 lety +159

    that mayor used to run a propane dealership in texas.

  • @haveltherock5804
    @haveltherock5804 Před 7 lety +33

    at first I thought a corser was talking to the mayor but then I realised it was Kellogg

  • @Toni-lo9ms
    @Toni-lo9ms Před 7 lety +67

    Great lore video, Oxhorn. I'm unreasonably proud of myself that I actually found everything you did independently, but I still enjoyed hearing you bring it all together.

    • @oxhorn
      @oxhorn  Před 7 lety +17

      Hah thanks! Yeah it's all there. I always learn something new when I revisit these though

    • @ajeje1996
      @ajeje1996 Před 6 lety +1

      Balthazar21 My OCD flares up every time I explore these stories because I'm terrorized of missing a note, holotape or terminal, so I end up running loops for hours triple checking everything, the inevitable result being getting confused by the story... especially when I find the clues out of order. Oxhorn's videos save me that stress!

  • @wormsblink2887
    @wormsblink2887 Před 7 lety +61

    We know that neverending-legendary energy weapons exist in fallout 4, so the students must have made it back to civilization with their prototypes. Their weapons were sold or stolen and spread throughout the commonwealth and whenever we pick up a legendary laser gun, it comes from that underground lab

    • @ajeje1996
      @ajeje1996 Před 6 lety +5

      Worms Blink they only made two though: in a note Leslie mentions leaving one of the two prototypes behind in the event Campbell made it back

    • @themasonlxix9439
      @themasonlxix9439 Před 6 lety +9

      12D3 well they already had the design so who’s to say they didn’t make more outside?

    • @MisterJohnDoe
      @MisterJohnDoe Před 4 lety +13

      Yeah, because picking up a high-tech tire iron from a legendary radroach totally makes sense

  • @LaserDroid
    @LaserDroid Před 7 lety +39

    Thanks again Oxhorn, I thought I knew everything about University Point but I had glossed over much of the story and had found the laser rifle without knowing the backstory behind it. If only the Institute wasn't so one track minded when it came to their research. Kellogg might have been dangerous but he was anything but a thinker. So they killed everyone and just left, how short sighted. RIP U.P. Citizens.

  • @Trudginator
    @Trudginator Před 7 lety +181

    everyone dies, father doesnt even cry

    • @aftermathematics365
      @aftermathematics365 Před 7 lety +34

      Makes you think about who he was and what he became. He allowed for the synth replacements of people, a scary thing, as well as FEV research. But it is hard to destroy it when there is some sentimental value, but more importantly, free health care, beds, and clean water, as well as teleportation.

    • @troodon1096
      @troodon1096 Před 5 lety +19

      +aftermathematics365 I can manage my own health care just fine, have beds at my settlement, clean water I can find or make, and I do have teleportation (that's what fast travel is; I'm not so obsessed with immersion that I refuse to use it). I don't need the Institute for any of that.
      University Point is what stamped out that little part of me that wanted to believe "maybe the Institute isn't ALL bad." It's the proof that yes, yes they are.

    • @UnknownPerson-2004
      @UnknownPerson-2004 Před 3 lety

      @@aftermathematics365 it was also Kellogg's fault, because of his psychopathic personality.

  • @far_away_rhys
    @far_away_rhys Před 7 lety +338

    Synth Assaulter?
    Synth A Pepper!

  • @krisreese6754
    @krisreese6754 Před 7 lety +27

    Damn I love these lore videos of yours. University Point like many stories in FO4 is quite sad, dark and ominous. Well explained. These videos make me realize why I loved FO4 in the first place.

  • @alexanderlowton4552
    @alexanderlowton4552 Před 7 lety +8

    University point is what made me go against the insitute. The idea of wiping out a whole town with its own shops and community that probably was larger than bunker hill. Just becuase there MIGHT be some info that could slightly help research the choice made here is people who truly have lost touch with humanity.

  • @xChillWave
    @xChillWave Před 7 lety +34

    I remember coming here for the first time at low level, the legendary glowing mirelurk from the inside almost fucked me up :D

    • @LARZMARZ94
      @LARZMARZ94 Před 4 lety +2

      José Manuel Béjar Martín mirelurks are the worst, especially legendary glowing ones. It's nice to see how that laser gun that uses fusion cores boils the crab like French-canadians

  • @phantomnxc6081
    @phantomnxc6081 Před 7 lety +115

    Someone said "remember the attack"so the institute attacked before

    • @aftermathematics365
      @aftermathematics365 Před 7 lety +8

      ah those 'member berries!

    • @ignore2466
      @ignore2466 Před 7 lety +20

      No. That might be the case but they're just talking about some attack they Saw.

    • @tycol322
      @tycol322 Před 6 lety +6

      Possibly a reference to the broken mask incident. Or the cpg

    • @cedricexquisite1999
      @cedricexquisite1999 Před 6 lety

      Nathan Simonet No you’re still wrong

    • @YoungBreezzy66
      @YoungBreezzy66 Před 3 lety

      Didn’t the institute send out Gen 1’s and Gen 2’s before the perfected the Gen 3’s

  • @CometSamurai
    @CometSamurai Před 7 lety +90

    I love your voice when watching these videos you sound like a younger version of ShoddyCast' Storyteller.

    • @ignore2466
      @ignore2466 Před 7 lety

      Oshiete! OmuRice-chan omg never thought about that

    • @ghostexdelta6
      @ghostexdelta6 Před 7 lety

      MAJ0R_MALFUNCTI0N lol

    • @jomackson3305
      @jomackson3305 Před 7 lety +2

      I don't watch story teller even if I'd like the history lesson just because he is a bos blow hard who ignores all ills. The only truely non raider bos regime was Lyons, and you can see how his actually effective leadership is seen by The cult of maxon.

  • @emeyeenaych
    @emeyeenaych Před 6 lety +116

    This is one of the reasons why I’ll never have an institute character

    • @TheMelancholicWriter
      @TheMelancholicWriter Před 3 lety +5

      You should give it a go man! It’s actually one of the better arcs in the game if you side with them 🙂

    • @valianthorizon6890
      @valianthorizon6890 Před 3 lety +11

      @@TheMelancholicWriter
      Not really.

    • @AshCreeper
      @AshCreeper Před 3 lety +11

      I stopped playing with my Institute Character when I got the Institute ending with him. I didn't touch him again until I got the Nuka world DLC and decided to use him to go on the raider path. After that, I didn't touch the character again.

    • @juicydangla4270
      @juicydangla4270 Před 3 lety +2

      To each their own, I found it the best option.

    • @darnit1944
      @darnit1944 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheMelancholicWriter Probably the most technologically advanced faction, yet they made laser guns worst than any pre war weapons.

  • @lonewolfgeoff
    @lonewolfgeoff Před 7 lety +17

    you have a storyteller's voice oxhorn! you make us feel like we are actually in the story itself... a rare gift! 😊 im glad we can hear these pieces put together like this! makes a heck of a difference! many thanks oxhorn! keep going, your doing an excellent job!

    • @oxhorn
      @oxhorn  Před 7 lety +7

      Thanks for watching!

  • @ngaugeph6739
    @ngaugeph6739 Před 3 lety +4

    Even though its just a game I can still imagine what it felt for jaqueline, the sheer regret from uncovering something and terror from the fact that the institute is attacking and killing everyone. I will never have an institute character and will never side with them, they deserve to die underground coffin.
    RIP Jaqueline, you would've been a great asset for the commonwealth, Brotherhood of Steel, and even the Minutemen.

  • @dichotomy1593
    @dichotomy1593 Před 7 lety +365

    This is why the institute is the evil ending!
    They deserve EVERYTHING they get!

    • @aftermathematics365
      @aftermathematics365 Před 7 lety +33

      The Institute has done some grimy things, including this massacre, as well as the synth replacements, which is scary. Still, I could not hurt Father and the free medical care, water, and beds in the Institute made me decide to keep it.

    • @dichotomy1593
      @dichotomy1593 Před 7 lety +51

      aftermathematics365
      As far as the civility of the inner workings of the institute... it is what society should desire.
      Their methods are nothing short of pure evil!
      To this day, I still do not know what their end goal was with creating synths.
      Was it to replace all of humanity?
      To spy?
      To help human kind?
      What was the ultimate goal?
      Thank you for replying.
      I do appreciate it.

    • @aftermathematics365
      @aftermathematics365 Před 7 lety +23

      Dichotomy Certainly there! As far as I remember, the Institute made the synths as an intellectual challenge, according to Father. After that, those things began to have sentience and needed to be recaptured. The synths also scavange and to a certain extent provide the Institute with spy information. I say this by doing the SRB quests for Drs. Ayo and Secord. This is technically, no pun intended, easier than relying on cyborgs like Kellogg.
      As far as helping humanity, that's where it gets twisted. The Institute has no interest in cleaning up the Commonwealth, unless you as the Director cares by being a Minuteman General too. Father's goal and X6-88's banter indicate that the Institute needs to expand further underground and do experiments and such that only benefit the scientists and their families there. Having that pool of robots to work again minimizes the hazard to human workers and allows the scientists to continue their regular work.
      The worst that I can think that can happen to the Institute is for it to be taken over by synths. In one of my plays I'll have to be Brotherhood of Steel, as I find them quite cool. Cheers and look forward to further philosophical discussions on Fallout 4!

    • @dichotomy1593
      @dichotomy1593 Před 7 lety +8

      aftermathematics365
      That was more info than I have learned watching a year of videos on F4.
      Thank you very much and I hope to do it again.

    • @Johng2476
      @Johng2476 Před 7 lety +24

      It's quite refreshing-and I mean this, to find such a civilized conversation between two people whom enjoy the same thing especially on youtube. I've all but given up on reading comment threads on youtube due to the toxic nature. Good on you two!

  • @Edithae
    @Edithae Před 7 lety +92

    Love that Limitless Potential laser rifle. I used console commands to give me 10,000 fusion cells and slapped on an automatic barrel.
    Pew pew pew.

    • @aftermathematics365
      @aftermathematics365 Před 7 lety +3

      Have you also gotten the Wazer Rifle by chance?

    • @Edithae
      @Edithae Před 7 lety +6

      aftermathematics365
      Not yet but yesterday I destroyed the Institute as the Brotherhood of Steel and brought the Synth Shaun home with me.

    • @aftermathematics365
      @aftermathematics365 Před 7 lety

      Edithae I suppose you can make a dispensation there. He's just so useful!

    • @Edithae
      @Edithae Před 7 lety +6

      aftermathematics365
      He's my pet synth lol. I imagine the BoS made a special dispensation.

    • @aftermathematics365
      @aftermathematics365 Před 7 lety +6

      Edithae Rofl, yea that kid is quite the inventor. I can imagine a playthrough where Maxon allows Danse and young Shaun to continue to exist. I find that destroying every synth that I run into is not really feasable without doing something grimy, like killing off the people of Far Harbor just cause there's two synths there in that town.

  • @happysawman
    @happysawman Před 7 lety +7

    This was the place that convinced me to destroy the institute, they sent a synth death squad to a peaceful town to gather some data

  • @royearle1673
    @royearle1673 Před 7 lety +90

    the institute should have been more patient

    • @stacywells743
      @stacywells743 Před 7 lety +25

      Yeah, but they ended up getting nothing because of Kellog's blood thirsty ruthlessness. Instead of listening and maybe even offering the girl and her father a place in the institute for the data and her clever mind with machines he did what he always prefers to do. Kill everyone and take what you want after. Typical of that psychopath. Though considering how the Institute is with "loose ends" even if Jacq and her father had survived they probably would have killed the rest of the town anyway after they had what they wanted.

    • @MikhaelAhava
      @MikhaelAhava Před 7 lety +26

      It was Kellog's fault, mostly, he was the impatient one, the fault of the institute was using Kellog, but there was no other choice.

    • @sm901ftw
      @sm901ftw Před 7 lety +13

      In fairness I think the institutes usual MO when acquiring new talent (thats scientists, not infiltrators) is to ask first, kidnap if they say no, and replace the people taken with a synth without the other townsfolk even knowing. If loose ends exist they'll kill them, but they don't usually go around actively destroying towns.
      In this case, it seems the girl wasn't viewed as worth taking (either because they didn't know she was the one who gained the data or they knew and didn't care anyway), and Kellog wasn't in the mood to be tactful.

    • @LightningSe7en
      @LightningSe7en Před 7 lety +3

      I blame Shaun since it was Shaun who used Kellogg.

    • @jomackson3305
      @jomackson3305 Před 7 lety +16

      I do not believe for a moment that kellog was their only agent. It was at such a time I'd contend they could have made a synth just for the sole purpose of aquiring tech and leads. At the end of the day this was a deliberate action sending kellog as it is clear over all of their history the institute has no love for the people above.

  • @grumpgro-balack8461
    @grumpgro-balack8461 Před 7 lety +6

    I was never able to piece much of this awesome story together, enjoyed the tale

  • @calebreynolds9183
    @calebreynolds9183 Před 7 lety +6

    I'm going to savor turning them into a radioactive pothole even more now.

  • @stevewatts3502
    @stevewatts3502 Před 7 lety +75

    Thanks for ratifying the story Ox. I was annoyed at the stupidity of Jacqueline when I'd picked through the clue parts myself. Exquisite and tragic, great vid... thanks for putting me straight.

    • @stacywells743
      @stacywells743 Před 7 lety +41

      Tragically, she just a typical teenager. She's 16 with a single father and is excited at the idea of earning some money to buy herself some nice things. She's not a scientist and has no real education so she doesn't know not to make assumptions with data or skew the facts to fit her theory so when she found something interesting and valuable her imagination and youthful optimism ran away with her. Teenagers are prone to drama and fantasies of perfect case scenarios. It's just unfortunate that Kellog is the pyscho he is. If they'd sent someone reasonable it would have been cleared up in 10 minutes.

    • @stevewatts3502
      @stevewatts3502 Před 7 lety +8

      Whoa, didn't expect that, and from a passing ship too! Thanks buddy, yes, surely a hidden rich tapestry which you've so succinctly summed up. Hope I haven't missed any hidden meaning... be well K)

    • @volticcloud5491
      @volticcloud5491 Před 7 lety +13

      @Stacy Wells Yea, Kellog literally ruined everything with his psychopathic violence when the UP people already made it clear that they do not wish harm.
      To top it up, thanks to Kellog the Institute was painted as the devil.

    • @ilax3071
      @ilax3071 Před 6 lety +6

      To be fair, weeks went by without people of the town asking her... They just send her emails, also instead of deleting them she should have talked with other people.. Shemust have known something was up after she got like 10 hate mails

  • @Nautinthislifetime
    @Nautinthislifetime Před 7 lety +1

    Your story telling is absolutely wonderful and all of these videos are making me look at and travel through the world of Fallout 4 in a completely different way. This one reduced me to tears at the end.

  • @VanIslandLights
    @VanIslandLights Před 7 lety +4

    This was really good! I knew Fallout did lots of environmental storytelling but I've never seen anything this in depth. Great job piecing all of this together.

  • @freyjellytots
    @freyjellytots Před rokem

    I love watching these while i run around collecting loot at that location. It helps me see story I missed and really helps the tone

  • @Othello484
    @Othello484 Před 6 lety

    After I went there I was moved and I was hoping you had a vid on it. I'm glad you did. Thanks much!

  • @ginja_ninja3523
    @ginja_ninja3523 Před 5 lety +2

    Your effort on these videos are amazing

  • @summerbat7792
    @summerbat7792 Před 7 lety +10

    always love Oxhorn's lore videos!

  • @kingtiger332
    @kingtiger332 Před 7 lety +5

    Great video Oxhorn! I love all your Fallout 4 Lore videos. Please do more of them ...

  • @oxBulletWitchxo
    @oxBulletWitchxo Před 7 lety +3

    Absolutely love your lore videos Oxhorn. They are some of the most well done, and best explained I have seen! Sadly in most lore videos they just show pictures and/or pretty much read word for word the wiki arictles on the topics and don't go any further.
    I love how you ask so many questions and really sit and ponder on the small stories presented to you. I also really enjoy how meta or deep you get with some of the lore, particularly the video you did on if the sole survivor was a synth or not. It was very interesting to sit and think on the subject from a perspective I had not before. Keep up the awesome work!! I will definitely be there for the next one lol as I've already binge watched all your other videos xD

    • @oxhorn
      @oxhorn  Před 7 lety +4

      Thank you very much! I will keep them coming

  • @ianh1561
    @ianh1561 Před 6 lety

    Your story telling gave me chills om this one. Keep it up!

  • @yr7wachunga
    @yr7wachunga Před 3 lety

    These videos are great. I like to listen to them while I’m working. Oxhorn you do a fantastic job of narrating and making these videos!

  • @w0mblemania
    @w0mblemania Před 7 lety +1

    Beautifully done Oxhorn. Thanks very much for this. It really is excellent work.

  • @cowboycliparchive1985
    @cowboycliparchive1985 Před 7 lety +7

    I honestly never figured out the full story out till my 5th playthrough. I discovered the hidden vault lab and instantly had to figure things out.

  • @Morrow1158
    @Morrow1158 Před 7 lety +1

    I love your stories, I only watch the ones I've done though and I'm always amazed by how much I miss when I go through. Thank you I was wondering wtf they were after.

  • @thehorrorhound6575
    @thehorrorhound6575 Před 6 lety +1

    I found all of the stuff you found at university point but I never actually found the gun or the bunker lab. Thank you for this and you did a good job of making the stuff I didn’t know interesting and sad.

  • @nathanball2834
    @nathanball2834 Před 7 lety +8

    Gosh, he is such a good storyteller. I would watch these all day long and donate too if I wasn't broke lol. Seriously though Oxhorn, thanks for the entertainment.

  • @youngfire221
    @youngfire221 Před 7 lety +14

    At least there some form of a happy ending

  • @atlashammercock9582
    @atlashammercock9582 Před 6 lety

    First time I went into Sedgwick Hall I ran through it and didn't get into the story as I was hanging with a friend SO I was so glad to watch this video! I love all your lore videos Ox they are so in depth and you are such a great narrator!
    I didn't realize I could have gotten the unlimited ammo laser gun and as I was running around Sedgwick Hall again I killed a legendary synth that dropped an unlimited ammo laser rifle, what are the odds lol! Time to go find the prototype one now haha

  • @szpoti
    @szpoti Před 7 lety

    Absolutely the best of your stories!
    Subscribed.

  • @commandershepard9920
    @commandershepard9920 Před 7 lety +1

    Funny enough, -I- kept going back to the research lab looking for 'reactor efficiency data' too. I hadn't realized that Jacq simply hadn't known what she was talking about and had incompletely described what she had found. Now the story makes more sense to me.
    Thanks again for being detailed and thorough.

  • @smacznyomlecik
    @smacznyomlecik Před 7 lety +4

    Gotta love your videos about lore.

  • @booyah4373
    @booyah4373 Před 7 lety

    Great video, Oxhorn! Thank you for making it. It will be helpful as I search for the Admin. building. Many thanks!!

  • @shempeym
    @shempeym Před 7 lety

    Dude your storytelling give me the chills! A big thumbs up!

  • @aaronwilliams8813
    @aaronwilliams8813 Před rokem +1

    When I find a good story like this in fallout 4 instead of going through all the terminals myself I always Google the insteresting story oxhorn and listen to the video While clearing the area
    Love your work can't wait for you to make fallout 5 content

  • @majorman1234
    @majorman1234 Před 29 dny

    One of my favorite locations in fallout. The story of the settlement being wiped out by synths highlights the evils of the wasteland and the Institute. Limitless potential is dope and the story behind its creation is cool.

  • @Anthony-yz5oy
    @Anthony-yz5oy Před 7 lety

    Wow this video was really sad.. good story telling man! love the content

  • @xXxClarkyyxXx
    @xXxClarkyyxXx Před 7 lety +12

    Maybe they left the bunker to create the small village right outside.
    The one that eventually met their doom from the institute.

    • @patience__8051
      @patience__8051 Před 6 lety +1

      xXx Clarkson xXx only a few weeks after nuke ? I wouldnt be that optimist
      But maybe as they were scientists they had hazmat suits who knows

    • @wafflenic2787
      @wafflenic2787 Před 3 lety +2

      @@patience__8051 Actually, when the bombs first dropped, the radiation wasn't strong enough to kill ppl, (well it did slowly killed them) And theres a story somewhere, its about a group of ppl who survived the big boom, and during the first few days after the bombs dropped they were turning their neighborhood into a fort. I think that story can be found just across the river from taffington boat house.

  • @ZTStephen
    @ZTStephen Před 7 lety +1

    Great video! Keep up these types of videos!

  • @velstorios9473
    @velstorios9473 Před 7 lety

    I kinda forgot that I actually found out everything(except some details) , started watching the video based on that then I remembered the adventure of reaching the research lab months ago , It was very nice to go through that discovery , and felt glad that I did , still it was nice to watch the video and remember that part plus details you showed in the video I might have missed , nice video man ^^
    But about these two , they would have shown us 2 particular presentation of them dead normally , but still I don't think they survived cause their stock probably wasn't enough until the bombing effect goes away .

  • @mindovermattjr
    @mindovermattjr Před 7 lety

    awesome video. binge watching your lore videos. spot on.

  • @baggieboydan82
    @baggieboydan82 Před 6 lety +1

    You’re such an amazing story teller it’s mad

  • @leonidasspartan6863
    @leonidasspartan6863 Před 6 lety

    u always seem to tell a story like a novelist writes... very enjoyable, the bits of humor added in makes it even better!

  • @Angiezinha_
    @Angiezinha_ Před 6 lety

    I am addicted to your videos

  • @tobywalpole3237
    @tobywalpole3237 Před 5 lety +2

    I've literally just cleared out University Point but I must have missed some terminals as I didn't really get the story connected to it. Thanks for filling in the blanks.

  • @incredibleflameboy
    @incredibleflameboy Před 7 lety

    oxhorn you have a natural story telling voice. I could imagine you reading audiobooks

  • @sirenia755
    @sirenia755 Před 4 lety

    your vids are really good, I watch 5 of them already.

  • @allninelivez7631
    @allninelivez7631 Před 3 lety +1

    Just came upon this. Decided to fully investigate the area. I wanted to understand the lore more so I tuned to Oxhorn. Small, insignificant place= plenty of lore.

  • @Django333
    @Django333 Před 7 lety +3

    Holy shit I remember Oxhorn from WOW! I just rediscovered you and I love these lore videos.

  • @Little-She-Devil
    @Little-She-Devil Před 2 lety +1

    I think it’s Kellogg’s impatience that killed off all the settlers there.
    If he just occupied the town allowing nobody to leave he would have found out the truth.
    But hey it’s kellog we’re talking about.
    His patience is like a time bomb wich is 2 seconds from exploding.

  • @TitaniumFallout
    @TitaniumFallout Před 6 lety +2

    Have you ever used the Heather casdin follower? Her quest line revolves around university point, I recommend it if you haven't already

    • @DocTraubo
      @DocTraubo Před 3 lety

      Heather is - in my opinion - the best companion and one of the best mods for Fallout 4.
      I'm still trying to hunt down the traitor. From all clues I managed to collect, I have two suspects left: Doc Weathers and Lucas Miller (the traitor is male which eliminates Carla and Cricket). The moment I find the final clue one of those two will get a ticket to hell. I promised Heather. :)

  • @fido139
    @fido139 Před 7 lety

    VERY interesting stuff! I rarely take the time to read through anything on the terminals, or the notes, so I miss out on a lot of interesting info.THANK YOU!
    Makes me wonder if there is another undiscovered prototype somewhere around the area.

  • @damonrichards8910
    @damonrichards8910 Před 6 lety

    You have the best voice for this oxhorn

  • @FleccaRobinson
    @FleccaRobinson Před 7 lety

    you have a knack for storytelling, my man.

  • @flamingpoob8373
    @flamingpoob8373 Před 6 lety

    Starting a new play through gonna be fun

  • @drstrangelove6078
    @drstrangelove6078 Před 7 lety

    new sub love the channel man great work gunna binge watch you lore vids lol

  • @TheCarlosgrau
    @TheCarlosgrau Před 2 lety +1

    What a heartbreaking story... thanks Oxhorn for piecing it together for us.

  • @kmhMESA
    @kmhMESA Před 5 lety

    Excellent story telling as usual.

  • @australisplays7615
    @australisplays7615 Před 7 lety +15

    Anyone know if you visit University point before catching up with Kellog or getting access to the Institute if theres any conversations choices with Kellog/Shaun about university point? Also given the fact that the Insititute uses the Bunker hill traders as informers presumably the unamed Male trader Jacquline told ran off and told his Insititue masters whats she found. Presumably the Institute killed this male trader as the SE Terrirtory now belongs to Cricket (Female)

    • @krashd
      @krashd Před 7 lety +4

      Good question, but I suppose if what you mean is "does it alter the conversation you have with Kellogg?" I would doubt it, to the sole survivor Kellogg is the guy who killed his/her partner and kidnapped their son so your mind is kinda made up whether the guy is an asshat or not :P

    • @ajeje1996
      @ajeje1996 Před 6 lety +1

      I thought the Bunker Hill merchants were informants for the Railroad, given how Old Man Stockton (owner of many of the caravans) is a high level Railroad asset... also, they stored runaway synths in Bunker Hill: if it were Institute turf, they would've been caught right away

    • @vedgerna3366
      @vedgerna3366 Před 5 lety +1

      @@ajeje1996 I can't trust those traders, more like traitors.

  • @rayjinflo
    @rayjinflo Před 6 lety

    So cool, I came very close to finding the bunker but never came back to unlock the safe!
    This actually makes me feel better about the institute knowing it was Kellog's fault and not Shaun's. It is the Institute's fault, but at least there's a chance to prevent bloodshed between them and the Minutemen later.

  • @unclewumbo1363
    @unclewumbo1363 Před 7 lety +1

    Your voice makes it more suspenseful, like, "He said they got in a fist-fight? Whats gonna happen!"

  • @jh9794
    @jh9794 Před 3 lety +1

    Fun fact, if you use the Unique uniques mod the rifle becomes a self charging weapon that really dose have limitless ammo(potential)... So eh, guess you take that apart you'd have unlimited power.

  • @leemayerchin6051
    @leemayerchin6051 Před 7 lety

    a nother great video sir keep up the great work

  • @xvirgomoonx
    @xvirgomoonx Před 7 lety

    Ya know, Oxhorn, you totally have a future in narrating audio books.

  • @travus111
    @travus111 Před 7 lety +12

    I just watched apple's video about this settlement yesterday

    • @brandonjoe55
      @brandonjoe55 Před 7 lety +1

      łøne wãñderéŕ same

    • @paullinfoot7732
      @paullinfoot7732 Před 7 lety +2

      łøne wãñderéŕ I'm pretty sure ox did as well. I'm not saying he copied off him, I'm just sayin. just sayin.

    • @ignore2466
      @ignore2466 Před 7 lety +2

      Sergeant Buttfist interesting new name lol

    • @slurmitshighlyaddictive5641
      @slurmitshighlyaddictive5641 Před 7 lety +2

      Apple computers does the same thing the institute does when a smaller company starts gaining momentum.

  • @jerdasaurusrex557
    @jerdasaurusrex557 Před 7 lety

    You are a really good story teller.

  • @keroger6732
    @keroger6732 Před 7 lety

    "But there's one safe with a Master Lock on it.." *Ad kicks in* Dammit.

  • @jymz0r320
    @jymz0r320 Před 4 lety +1

    I think, in one long lost, probably unfinished play through, I renamed that laser rifle something like 'Vengeance', and gave it to Preston for when we raided the institute...

  • @SouravAcharya9444
    @SouravAcharya9444 Před 5 lety

    Dude your explanation almost made me cry

  • @friendlyak47fish6
    @friendlyak47fish6 Před 4 lety +1

    institute destroys numerous settlements
    fails to kill the lone wanderer

  • @AkshatSTR8EDGE
    @AkshatSTR8EDGE Před rokem +1

    You have your proof, advictoriam brothers.

  • @t.pistole1318
    @t.pistole1318 Před 7 lety

    After thinking about the timeline described in the tapes, one has to wonder how the institute found out about the supposed data so quickly. From the recording of the council meeting it sounded like less than a week passed between the merchant being approached by Jacqueline. For the institute to find out about the data quickly enough for Kellog to get to the town that quickly this would be an indication that the merchant informed the Institute and was possibly a synth replacement.

  • @thecoolguy4207
    @thecoolguy4207 Před 7 lety

    Wow oxhorn one of your best lore videos you should do diamond city

  • @LostDisciple24
    @LostDisciple24 Před 11 měsíci

    Dont forget that the mod Heather Casdin had a major role here in University Point. I know its not canon, but it does weave itself into the established lore really well. This mod companion is my second favorite... Ellen the Cartographer is my favorite companion.

  • @iamangrycoffee
    @iamangrycoffee Před 7 lety

    I've played hundreds of hours of fallout and Skyrim on separate play throughs but there are still so many places I've never been to.

  • @tamaraking2374
    @tamaraking2374 Před 4 lety

    Hey oxhorn I know this is a little too late but I just found an animation for Target practicing on a Nexus mod I don't know if you're still looking for it but I remembered hearing your video that you are the name of the mod is settlement activity markers

  • @FortuneSeek3rz
    @FortuneSeek3rz Před 7 lety

    Honestly all the email on those terminals was too much for me to read. Thanks for the condensation. Very cool story and of course I missed the underground lab so I'll be playing FO4 tomorrow to get that laser gun.