Fire & Ice: The Winter War Between Finland and Russia -Part 1/2 (US Soldier Reacts)
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- American Soldier Reaction to Little Known Facts About Finland's Winter War Soldiers (Weird History).
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I just want to say that people should remember that there is truth and then there is Russian truth. And in Russia there are many truths, always depending on the situation.
Everybody always has their own perspective. Thar is how it has always been and always will be. Ever see “Rashomon”?
@@JustAnotherArmyVetI watched trailer but I don't remember that, maybe I watch that someday. Here is link in video "Evaluation of Russia by Finnish intelligence Colonel" video is really interesting, if you have time to watch it sometime. This video has English audio but there is same video in finnish too.
czcams.com/video/5F45i0v_u6s/video.htmlsi=FWDXLcZACk_pBYNa
Thank you!!
There is a genuine side of the "Russian truth" in their own documentary (their veterans of the Winter War shared their story and they admitted they lied a lot about their total casualties and they talked how they failed to get whole Finland. It's available on CZcams (but in Russian language without English subtitles. If someone wanna watch it, I can link it). The Soviet veterans admitted almost all of the things Finland had told (the False flag operation, failing in battles, didn't reach Helsinki as planned, the Government of Terijoki "Stalin's puppet" never happened etc). Stalin had already chosen a new government of Finland called Terijoki but he failed and couldn't get Finland. The Soviets veterans admitted they needed the peace as much as the Finns did and they were happy to be winner on papers and getting out without shame.
@@Niko-zu7mj thank you for sharing
In winter war units were formed from local area, so men often knew each other, but on the other hand it meant that one bombing could kill many brothers at once.
Also some cities suffered more severe losses than others due to this strategy of building up regiments and platoons from one city or couple of neighboring cities.
Great Britain did the same thing in WW1. After the Battle of Somme I think, GB stopped doing that. They lost whole towns of boys because of that battle
As a finnish citizen who is ready to do what needs to be done when someone is trying to tell us that we are not independent anymore i say this. NEVER make war look like it is some romantic or glorious fairy tale. It is ALWAYS blood, guts,crying people and death. There is nothing romantic about it. I wish i could see a time when old and useless politicians fight to the death when they have problems with each other insted making young people die for them.
That been said i wish happy new year to everyone and sub-zero is still the COOLEST character in Mortal Kombat.
Well said about war and well said about Sub-Zero!!! Happy New Year 😄😄
@@JustAnotherArmyVet I think lyrics of this song are fitting for this topic czcams.com/video/syQlbI9QLEM/video.html
Cool studio and cool content! Perfect 💎
You are awesome! Thanks 🤗
When you say sending people home to be burried is expected you have to consider the scale we are talking. Like US and allies were in Afganistan for 20 years and had few thousand deaths while possessing overwhelming military power. In large scale peer to peer total war treatment of 100 000 corpses might be different. This is actually making me wonder how Ukrainians are handling this aspect of war.
Good point. The last large scale war for the US was World War 2… I’m also wondering how Gaza is handling it as well…
Almost all of those fighting clips are from movie called talvisota /winter war. That movie was made 1989 or something like that. I remember when it came out and I was watching that in movie theater.
Ahhh. I thought they were just re-creating scenes as B-roll. I had no idea it was movie clips!
@@JustAnotherArmyVetit is pretty good movie 👍
Is this a clip from that movie? czcams.com/video/afYEXYbwOvE/video.htmlsi=ltzz9kXNezUHDbEF
@@JustAnotherArmyVetyes👍
no not at all, yes many clips are from the movie but i would say almost 50/50 recreations and that movie.@@JustAnotherArmyVet
Greetings from Germany,merry christmas
Greetings from South Carolina! Frohe Weihnachten!
yayyyyy at last! been waiting for this :)
Thanks for watching 🤗
When my grandfather was a kid, his father who was fighting in the war had a ski factory. The factory had a big fireplace to heat the factory floor and he helped his mother to melt the frozen corpses that were brought from the front, so that they could fit in the caskets. And there were other lotta's in addition to his mother to help wash the bodies. What a childhood...
Oh wow. Very traumatizing and sad memories 😢
You did good. Thank you!
Thanks for watching and for the kind words!
In here its currently around -30 to even -50 celsius, just like during those times :D
Oh wow 🥶🥶. I can’t imagine how miserable that is….It’s supposed to be in the lower 60s today where I live.
Mannerheim didn't like that the government leaned so heavily on the Germans in the Liberation War that's why he pushed on to have the decisive fight in the civil war before the Germans could land German trained finish troops..
Volunteer Swedes formed a brigade that was really a battalion but since Finland had not been allowed to have an army for 15 years he took a lot of Swedish officers from the Brigade and put them in his staff and this really helped with the logistics of the White army
No Army for 15 years? When was that?
@@JustAnotherArmyVetThey where part of Russia back then and where considered unreliable when Russia was rocked by protests.
So the Tsar disbanded their army.
Under Russian Rule Finland was it's own entity like a state within a state, they still had the old 1789 constitution from when Finland and Sweden was the same country.
@@AdurianJ thanks 👍
Something NO ONE ever talk or know about is how good the finnish fighter aces did during the both wars.
You are right. I have seen lots of videos on the Winter War and I’ve heard almost nothing about the pilots.
My grandfather (dad's dad) was a machinegunner. He killed a lot of Russians, and had ptsd for the rest of his life. He had six brothers, all in the war, and they all survived the the war.
That is amazing that they all survived. They beat the odds! Thanks them for their service ❤️🙏
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Log and crowbar, are a text book example of sisu.
Log and crowbar?
@@JustAnotherArmyVet anti tank tactics
@@mhh7544 awe yes. How they showed. Got it 👍
Although Finland lost the war in the end, they caused huge casualties to the Russians.
This caused the Germans observing what was going on, to become overconfident and to think that defeating Russia, about 18 months later, was going to be easy.
Operation Barbarossa was planned to begin on May 5, 1941, however the attacks against Greece and Crete delayed it so it started on June 20, 1941.
It was the results of the Winter War that made Hitler not to listen to his Generals who were telling him to attack Russia in 1942 in order to have more Panzer divisions and the proper warm time available to do the job, as was planned for 1941.
So, along with the delay Greece caused to the German plans, the overconfidence the Winter War gave them, also played a crucial role for the German defeat in WW2, although Finland was a German ally out of fear of the Soviets.
From everything the documentary talked about, it sounded like Finland was winning the war. I’m not sure why they gave up after 3 months or so.maybe because the USSR had many more Soldiers
@@JustAnotherArmyVet This is a documentary from the Kings and Generals channel that shows in detail the pre history of this war and the operations during the winter war all the way to it's end:
czcams.com/video/1Uk5bY22RSE/video.html
At 1h 45 min it's too long for a reaction video, but is very informative, as far as history is concerned.
I find this channel to be very informative regarding a number of different wars and battles with very interesting graphics that show over maps of the battle areas the troop movements and engagements.
Great thanks!
Thats my grand dad behind the MG on your thumbnail, at Lemetti motti.
He is the one operating the MG?? Wow. This must be a very special photo for your family! 🙂🙏
@@JustAnotherArmyVet Jep, foto is owned by the military, army photographer took the pic . Original has a photo number , and stamp ,SA = Suomen Armeija
@@mhh7544 classic photo 🙂❤️👍
Hello from Finland, I just want to say how we feel about Russia, we are friends with Russia in a sort of way that you try to be friendly with the super jacked guy on steroids that you never know what their gonna do.
Hello from South Carolina! I think you explained it perfectly…
Of course we had also better aircraft than Ripons. They were not the best equipment. We had Fokker D.XXIs, for example.
Thank you for your insight. I’m certainly not an expert and aviation or the FDF.
US invaded Philippines in 1898 and kept it under its rule nearly 50 years. Even the official language was set to English. But of course Filipinos resisted heavely, some 100,000 were killed. 😖
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Britain and France declared war to Germany because guaranteed the independence of Poland!. Why they did not declare war to Russia? That`s a question being never discussed about in the west.
I don’t know. I do have a lot of knowledge on WWw, but my knowledge is very limited….Maybe because the US was hesitant to get in the war until Peal Harbor. And by that time, I think the USSR was fighting against Germany, which was allied to Japan. .. this is what Goggle says: “Due to political interests. Germany posed a much more obvious and palpable threat to their political sphere of influence. Also, the agreement included Germany and not the Soviet Union.” It also says, “France and Britain refrained from a critical reaction to the Soviet invasion and annexation of Eastern Poland since neither country expected or wanted a confrontation with the Soviet Union at that time.”
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there are veterans of all nations in ukraine to fight.
not exclusive american
Finns were killed in ukraine last year i.e.
Yes, very true
I made to write one old school historic it was build in 1883 so it was my hometown first school! If old buildings can talk you can hear many interesting stories! One thing I learned history repeat itself like the song which tells Lincoln's and Kennedy's murders! Putin started if western news are right also own areas! Like Winter War, but Stalin made peace deal! Because he affraid British or French troops are sending to help Finns ofcourse also weapons! Now Russia doesn't need to affraid any concequences so war continues still Like Soviet Unions wars civil targets are military! February 1940 Soviet Union decide punnishe Finns and one day only one part of Frontline attacker used 300 000 Artillery ammunitions! In Ukraine they needed 200 000 end of December and we couldn't send them! So also remember how history repeat itself in Winter War we had lack of ammo! So it was surprise Artillery units when comander comes to report today you have 8 ammos to use and 4 gun realice was 8 was total so you can shoot twice and thats it! But during Winter War Finns get 2 World records and they are still standing! Simo Häyhä most enemies killed sniper 505 confirmed! And submachine gun 300! Our airforce was small and old except Focker fighters. But one pilot made that world record 6 planes under 6 minutes with light machineguns!! 7 th. plane escaped, because only Finn noticed no more bullets!
Exactly! History tends to repeat itself!!!
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My mother 92 years old doesn't want to experience the third world war.
I also do not want to experience a WW3….
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Thank you kindly!!
The sausage war. :D Well... the russians havent changed much since the Finnish war. :(
Is that term well known in Europe? I had never heard of it 😂
I haven't heard it either
yeah lol mannerheim gotted always that hot potato in his mouth when he speached my grandpha was from vyborg
Hot potato?
Sweden sent over 9000 soldiers (volunteers) to help the Finns in their fight against the Soviets, along with many thousands of guns and tons of ammunition.
So the video is not entirely truthful about the rest of the world not helping. Although, they may have been sent over for the continuation war, I'm not an expert.
Oh wow. I never heard that before. Thanks for sharing!
@@JustAnotherArmyVet Have a look at this video about it:
"Swedens Winter War: How Sweden fought the Soviets in WW2"
That channel also has tons of other fun content if you are interested :)
Great, thanks!!
It's not only americans that find themselves fighting some war where ever. I bet almost every country has their own person or ppl who just goes to war. There are number of finnish reserve officers training ukrainian troops at this moment. Take india, my bet is that there are lots of them in ukraine. Only thing what is different is that you glorify war in your new history.
Yes, lots of foreigners fighting in Ukraine . True
Putin's tactics in Ukraine .
What about his tactics?
Calling Finland infinitecimally small is the mistake that Stalin made.
Yes.
I'm waiting for Russia to post an archive on this war. This topic was not raised here, including that the Finns participated in the siege of Leningrad. Now Finland has spoiled relations with Russia and I think that the materials will be posted for the study of a huge public, including foreign ones. Now they have gradually begun to spread what was hidden for the sake of friendship of peoples. The Hitler coalition is not only Germany. So with such films, without references to real documents and archival videos, they dig a hole for themselves.
Finland partially updated in the siege of Leningrad? I had no idea. I thought that was only German forces. But true, Finland and Russia have had calm relations the last few decades or so (as far as I know). Nobody was rocking them boat until recently…
They will not. The Stalin era is a very dark time for the USSR. What i would recommend (if you like reading books) is The Finnish-Soviet Winter War 1939-40 by David P. Murphy. The author brings the reader an in depth analysis of the political situation before, during and after the end of the invasion of Finland. I believe it will cover your questions.
Thanks for the recommendation 👍
@@DraikoGR In 2020, the Finnish newspaper Ilta-Sanomat published an article justifying the creation of concentration camps in Karelia by the Finnish occupiers during World War II..
The author of the article refers to the Finnish historian Antti Laine, author of the book "Finland as an occupier: the situation of the civilian population of East Karelia during the period of military administration of the occupied territory from 1941 to 1944." According to him, the actions of the Finns at that time were still different from the German ones. "The fact is that out of 83 thousand residents of East Karelia, more than half - that is, 41 thousand people - had Finnish roots. They were treated better than the Russians who lived on the same territory. The Finns were unusual occupiers, as they began to create a school and social system in the occupied territory," Laine said.
I advise you to read it. No one here cares what the Finns think. documents are posted for citizens of the Russian Federation.
@@JustAnotherArmyVet you're welcome!
Moreover, Russia has started blocking Finland's economy now. And a military district is being created near the border. So the documents about the Finnish side's attacks on the USSR before 1939 and everything that happened after that will be posted sooner or later. And they will remind you about the siege of Leningrad and who bombed it at that time . The resonance will be quite loud. The siege of Leningrad, the concentration camps in Karelia...
Concentration camps?
@@JustAnotherArmyVet just a troll, don't give it more fuel ;)
I just Googled it. Victory3252 is an avid viewer and a subscriber. I think this is what she was talking about: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Karelian_concentration_camps
Russia is alone now and do Finland really care about a shit of "new military district"; always been there. Karelia was part of Finland and you troll ruined that too 🤣
@@Finland-SkiTeam39-40 Karelia was not part of Finland. You forgot that Russia conquered the territory of Finland from Sweden. A peace treaty was concluded between the Swedes and Russia, according to which Finland became part of the Russian Empire. Finland was created by Russia. And Finland was part of the Russian Empire before the USSR.