Fastest & Slowest Charging EVs | When Speed Really Matters | Electric Vehicle Charging Speed Test
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
- For most people considering an EV, range is often the most important factor. But what good is a long range if the battery is slow to charge? We developed the Edmunds EV Charging Test and plugged in all of today’s electric cars, trucks and SUVs to see which ones charge the fastest - and which ones are slowest. In this video, Edmunds’ Alistair Weaver gives you an overview of the best and worst results.
For a more in-depth look at all of our data, visit edmunds.com/charging
00:00 Intro
00:38 Testing Process
01:58 Mercedes-Benz EQS 450+
02:22 Hyundai Ioniq 5
02:47 Porsche Taycan
03:25 Kia EV6
03:43 Fastest Charging EV
04:27 Slowest Charging EV
05:02 Ford Mustang Mach-E
05:27 Rivian R1S
05:49 The Tesla Average
06:31 Edmunds' Take
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Were you surprised by what topped the charging charts? Let us know in the comments!
Where does your Lucid fall on this list? I believe it charges faster than even the newest porsche taycan...
This is very helpful, but it has an error. It states that there are 71 (1%) increments between 10% and 80% in the explanation of how Edmunds calculates the average charging rate. It is really 70 increments. If you used 71, then all the averages are wrong.
"For example, if your battery has a total net capacity of 100 kWh, it should take only 71 kWh to charge it from 10% to 80% (there are 71 increments between 10 and 80)."
The charge testing you guys have pioneered is a fabulous resource to help prospective EV purchasers decide on which car suits them best - just brilliant.
Well done, Edmunds - your commitment to the detailed testing of ALL different powertrains is very much appreciated. 👍
As an EV6 owner, I'm not surprised to see the Kia/Hyundai E-GMP vehicles towards the top. The charging curve is very flat compared to many competitors. And my last EV6 Wind AWD peaked at 247 kW too.
As an IONIQ 5 AWD owner I can say my time at the 800V (Not Tesla) chargers are the same as the leader. While during a drive of multiple (3 or more) charging stops, I wish for the range of my sibling the 6 (first place). For 93% of all my charging being on AC at the house I’m glad we are the same. Other than looks but that’s subjective. 😉 Keep the range testing consistent (temperature, road moisture, speed, route, wind) and this will be a great reference to others. Best if they could all be done on the same day but you’d have to be really serious about testing to do that.😏 6:52
The importance of the charging speed is dependant on your normal use. My BYD Dolphin charges quite slowly with realistic 55 kW, which means about 30 minutes for 30-80 SoC. I charge at home (120 km per day). I seldom do long trips and then I need a 30 minutes break anyway.
Solterra and bZ4x are behind the Bolt in terms of miles per kW added
Since Tezla has cut back on its supercharger plans, I wouldn’t hold my breath for V4.
Interesting bit: The Mach-E Premium is more efficient than the GTPE, and it tends to beat things like the Model Y in highway range tests (albeit with a larger battery).
As a Mach-E owner (Premium 4X), I'm curious about something you guys didn't mention in your methodology section: when there are software updates that impact charging speed, do you test again? For example, Ford released an update that allows the Mach-E to precondition the battery as you approach the DCFC station, which, in my own experience, has made the average charge rate a little higher (shrinking time at the charger).
Edmunds needs to test a lot more cars, including the Nissan Leaf since it's still in production, Nissan Ariya, Kia Niro, Hyundai Kona, the Subaru Solterra, and the Toyota bZ4X FWD (since AWD will be similar to the Solterra).
Solterra and bZ4X charges slower than the Bolt in terms of energy added per mile. Significantly slower actually when you factor in the Bolts efficiency.
@@BremboT you and I know that, but I think Edmunds needs to test them anyways, instead of mostly testing the faster charging cars.
Simple math can do the same if u can read for example the Mach e which has. A. 97 KWH battery charge rate 150 KW so with a level 2 charger will take 7 hours level 3 charger will take 30 mins
Lucid didn't make the list?
Seriously! The industry leader isn't even on the list?! Kind of odd....
Lucid has great range and efficiency but isn't the fastest charging despite a high peak.
Public charging, and charging speed is important to some EV owners. But 80% of todays EV owners inexpensively charge up overnight at home without any concern for the state of public charging. On top of this, most EV owners only use about 10% of their battery pack capacity daily. So even though the media keeps trying to stress how vital fast charging is, as well as the need for more stations, and bigger battery packs, it is not the crisis or the experience of most EV owners. It will be nice to improve these points for those people who need and use these public EV charging services. But for everyone else, it is not a real shortcoming of EVs.
Charging speed is not that important for the average owner. Most charge level 2 at home overnight for day to day driving. On a road trip after 4 hours of driving having a break of 15min or 45min is not really a big problem. I know fellow EV Drivers who have never used a DCFC in years of ownership.
Interesting test. The sad part is the you tested the cars at the peak chargers that are working correctly, it's not very easy to find a peak working charger in most areas. What would be a more useful test would be to road trip them from say California to Wyoming using the cars software for the charging points and get a cumulative charging over a trip. I believe the results would be every different. I believe as the infrastructure/tech grows then to cars optimum charging speeds would hold a much higher value, but not right now.
Surprised no tesla
That is no surprise for knowledgeable viewers. Without 800V architecture in their vehicles and without 800V superchargers Tesla is comparably outdated nowadays. And let's be real, the only real efficient Tesla is the Model 3 RWD.
The Cybertruck does have an 800V system, but to use it you need to drive to non-Tesla chargers and due to poor battery performance, poor thermal management capabilities and maybe also due to poor charging software the use of the high voltage system is limited -> the charging curve drops down quite fast. A truck obviously isn't very efficient anyway tho.
I am looking forward to the electric Mercedes-Benz CLA which will be revealed at the end of this year and does have an 800V architecture. The charging peak power of 300kW isn't that impressive due to the large 95kWh total battery capacity (just under 90kWh usable), so a 3.2C peak charge capability. Mercedes mentioned it before as 250kW + 50kW boost and I assume it will behave more like an EV with 275kW overall and achieves a 10-80% time of 20min. Kinda like the new Porsche Macan based on the PPE-Platform, which has similar specs. So that is good but not groundbreaking, the E-GMP cars from Hyundai/KIA already achieve 10-80% in under 19min.
But in combination with the low energy consumption of the CLA it will be without a doubt among the top 3 and probably surpassing the Hyundai Ioniq 6 to take over the lead.
5:51 it's literally in the video
Tesla doesn't allow any test from any group or government this is why Tesla is prone to hav more issues then any other car maker
Bolt EV owner here. DC fast charging aside, EVERYDAY Level 2 charging, the Bolts have a higher rated AC onboard charger and can more efficiently charge more miles per hour than a lot of other EVs on the market. That being said, DC charging the Bolt sucks Elon balls.
... except that most EVs today charge fast enough that it doesn't matter.
Rather have a Tesla with slightly slowing charging curve but access to a much more reliable network. Too bad all the 800V architectures arent really optimal to the Tesla network.
see you at the finish line in the tesla
Is consumer vehicle ownership a race?
I agree - this is only relevant provided you can find a suitable charger that can supply enough juice and is in working order and it makes sense to have a shorter charge time.
Most of the time this is irrelevant - I do the 600 miles from Sydney to Melbourne in a Model 3 RWD, I stop twice in each direction for late breakfast and early lunch. I just plug in and go inside, by the time I am done (usually 20 min +\-) I have plenty of charge to continue.
Having any faster charging capability in this use case would be completely useless for me - I would much rather have a 99.95% chance of the charger that my car routed me to being in working order than a faster charge.
I wonder if these EV reviews are ever going to to mention that the faster you charge a battery, the shorter its useful life is going to be. There is always the shortcoming of super charging a battery.
I have no doubt there is an impact to battery longevity, but has there been any scientific testing to show just how detrimental it might or might not be?
its why the battery management system is in place. The companies have done enough research to find that only if you charge to 100% all the time, will degradation heavily impact the battery life. They slow it down passed 80% a lot of the time, to both spur customers to not leave it there, and to save the battery. As what ultimately kills lithium ion batteries, is leaving them plugged in. Its why Laptop manufacturers are using their BMS setups to turn off the charger after the battery has hit 100%, to save the battery. Cellphones do the same thing, now too. My Pixel 7 Pro, will analyze the state of charge in the battery, and take the power coming in from my high powered charger, and regulate it to, give the battery more longevity for the life of the device.
as long as there are no "does & don'ts" that voids or shortens the warranty who cares?
I was watching a UK video just yesterday looking at the battery degradation of the Chinese-built, MG5 Estate EV.
The car was just over 2 years old and had covered a whopping 120,000 miles (it's an EV mobile service tech's daily driver)
Obviously, with that age and mileage profile, the EV has been rapid charged basically all of the time, yet still has a battery State of Health of 92%...!
@@jonathantaylor1998 I think it has an LFP pack, which are more durable than the NCM packs mostly used in more expensive EVs. Although the newest LFP cells coming out of China are supposed to have some impressive charging speed too. CATL's new Shenxing LFP and Geely's new Golden LFP battery are both packing some pretty fast charging speeds.
Hope to see the Nissan Ariya and Toyota bz4x tested
Why don't these money-grubbing rich corp idiots get making some proper "EV Charge Car-Parks". You can't charge an EV properly with this rapid-charge crap, nor is it safe to leave EV's lying around randomly. Most people don't have or care for a home-charging setup so charging car-parks is surely the next alternative. You could have a number of them near town centre's and only those with the right card can access the area (which also means cash top-up cards should hurry up and be made). There are many people who wouldn't mind walking 10-15 mins to drop/collect a EV & more. And it goes without saying the car-parks should be sodding FREE to park in.
Rivians are so overpriced. I can't believe people buy these
And at the same time, the Hyundai Ioniq6 ranks #1 in the ugliest car for sale today.