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1914 german vs french
Tiger II: *breaks down*
Germans: Well jungs, now we got a bunker with a large gun
Tactical defensive engine breakdown.
cant retreat if your transmission gives out lol big brain meta tank design
Funny enough that's a flag for the Soviet tanks to avoid the area and let the tactical bombers take care of the tank.
*Jungs. "ü" is a different letter, and spelled differently, than "u", and is definetly not part of the German word, "Jungs", which would be translated into, "boys", in English, and you probably wanted to use. Cheers, a German. Zis is inaxisable! 😄😜
@@LilBigBriggi Dankeschön friend, I'm still learning German xd
The 1 Tiger against a horde of T-34s is like that one guy who has the premium tank in War Thunder
kind of, but also no. I kill Tiger 1 and 2s with Shermans, but you gotta be pretty much point blank. That armor is dumb, and the Gaijin devs underestimate the power of the later American munitions. The 76mm shell was much more effective than the 75mm, due to it's better design. The size was negligible, it had more to do with the AP core and explosive, but to Gaijin it's "just bigger ammo"... smfh... But to be fair with a 75mm you could take out a T2 even but you gotta charge that mf with cover and smoke, and preferably a few teammates coordinating with you, hopefully a heavy to spearhead. Problem is most randos can't squad or team properly. Just turns into a 5 yr olds' soccer game with everyone just rushing by themselves.
kind of, but also no. I kill Tiger 1 and 2s with Shermans, but you gotta be pretty much point blank. That armor is dumb, and the Gaijin devs underestimate the power of the later American munitions. The 76mm shell was much more effective than the 75mm, due to it's better design. The size was negligible, it had more to do with the AP core and explosive, but to Gaijin it's "just bigger ammo"... smfh... But to be fair with a 75mm you could take out a T2 even but you gotta charge that mf with cover and smoke, and preferably a few teammates coordinating with you, hopefully a heavy to spearhead. Problem is most randos can't squad or team properly. Just turns into a 5 yr olds' soccer game with everyone just rushing by themselves.
That one dude who brought out a kv1 756 or whatever in a downtier game
I keep seeing in you in WoTB vids
@@jeremiahkivi4256 i think it's just a problem about your skill my guy, i find it easy af to deal with them.
Real-Life Tanks when losing their track: “We’re screwed”
War Thunder Tanks when losing their track: *”Tis but a scratch”*
WoT tanks losing a track:
**spams 5 furiously**
Did the past really happen?
Enlisted and hell let loose players when they loose their track
** a massive explosion**
my wot tank with all crew members with repair perk: repairs in 3 seconds
Me with my M4A1 Sherman: are you sure about that?
There's one time in war thunder were we play Scrub match were were all 1920s tanks and somehow a panzer I got Domed by a bob semple in melee after Spraying in oint blank. Absolutely hilarious. Thanks Gaijin for that test server beta
14:18 “as the sole member of the group that didn’t break down on the way” absolutely hilarious.
Me: oh god
5 hours later
Tiger group: "Where's the T-34?"
A sole cat: "You late."
Jeez the live chat on this video is insane. It’s like the Eastern Front all over again.
😅
I know 😂
It's so cringe... It's litterally full of delusional 14 year old's.
I missed it sadly
@@r.m.224 They're adults, never think adults don't behave like that
That little disclaimer was just him telling the nerds that he doesn't want to hear it.
🤓☝ Akshualli that disclaimer is so your fat maternal figure won't break the pavement beneath her. ☝
@@oasis1282 lmfao
@@oasis1282 hillarious joke about his maternal figure
The nerds even after seeing the disclaimer: how bout' i do anyway?
Chad Griffin Johnsen
Meanwhile in the Pacific Theater:
“The most glorious thing a Japanese soldier can do is die for the Emperor- and if your Type 95 encounters a Sherman you certainly will!”
-Imperial Japanese Tank Corps (basically)
No offence couldn't stop laughing reading the comment so true 🤣
@@robmiah4501 Europe Theater: well, At least we can out number The Fritz Willy. Don't worry we got them by Air Support!
Pacific Theater: ***THE ONLY THING THEY FEAR IS YOU INTENSIFIES***
@@robmiah4501 Japanese tanks are less likely to sink in sandy islands than some Sherman tanks but these tanks were rarely used anyway.
And when Sherman meets a Tiger.....good bye uncle sam!!!!
@@sempertemper6017 Unless that tiger is facing 4 Sherman's including one with a long 76mm, which is what would most likely happen. In that scenario the Tiger may take out a Sherman or two but it most certainly isn't going to win.
“Where there is smoke, there is German armor”
Couldn’t be more true in war thunder
I sort of understand this, but not at the same time. Explain, i mean im level 100 in War Thunder but this one flew over my head
@@build2270 Havent played war thunder in months, and I still know, from what I know mostly german tanks have those smoked grenades for the battlefeild
@@build2270 tl;dr many German tanks carry smoke grenades and the players use them quite liberally. It's not necessarily a bad thing, but very often you'll see one side is filled with smoke because everyone pop smokes the moment they are hit. And notoriously, quite a number will sit inside cap point, spam smoke and refill infinitely.
@@laisy961 Ah okay thank you for explaining
@@elijahjack9925 thank you for explaining
Can't wait for all tank experts to comment their enlightened opinion.
Simple A burning T34 gives of more reading light then a burning PZIV 😁
"tank experts" more like War Thunder players
@@pigeon4747 exactly
Im a tank expert and I can say that the KV-1 tanks were large but not as large as your mom
The best part is the live chat. So much wehraboos, when Germany dominates a 2v10 they say it's SupERioR GeRMaN eNGineErINg but when the Tiger IIs get surrounded by the T-34 horde they say it's unfair lmao
Tiger 1: *proudly arrives in battle*
also Tiger 1: *the sole member of its group that didn't break down on the way*
The Tiger I was pretty reliable tho, but the Tiger II...
@@drinkyourwater1039 No, it almost always had transmission breaks.
@@boranates1320 wasnt there one battle where more tigers were destroyed by there own crews?
At least I heard about that
@@drinkyourwater1039 not a high bar tbh. It was more reliable than Tiger 2 but way less reliable than pz4, 3s or earlier models.
@@boranates1320 The Tiger had more engine issues than transmission issues. The Panther on the other hand had final drives that lasted on average 150km before breaking
Something that I realized from watching ww2 week by week is that by 1942, the Soviets were adapting and avoiding Germany's tactical maneuvers all the while the German high command and field commanders are left in shock as they continue to simply encircle empty fields, all the while Sevastopol and Leningrad eat up desperately needed reinforcements as Soviet defenses become more and more in depth as the Germans have no idea how to switch strategy and find urban brawls completely incompatible with blitzkrieg warfare and then of course Stalingrad happens and while the Germans adapt to the defensive well enough, its too little too late this became a war they would not win long ago.
Blitzkrieg wasn't going to work against the Red Army, the High Command of the Wehrmacht was very much aware of that, according to original war diaries.
They knew they had to actually fight hard to defeat the Red Army. Their strategies were superior in many ways, the German commanders were given a goal and they had lots of freedom to get the job done, the Red Army commanders feared being shot (which happened a lot) by their superiors and rather got three or five confirmations of their next course of actions before even doing anything. The Germans biggest mistake, and i mean the mistake of Hitler and the High Command, was to ignore their own officers who warned them of the cunning and bravery of the soviet enemy, but instead the leaders underestimated the Red Army... the lesson here: never underestimate your opponent. The Red Army fought the bulk of WW2 against Germany.
But the Red Army embelished not few of their so called "victories" against German tanks. Like the battle of Prochorowka in 1943 (an important part of the battle of Kursk), which was hailed as a tremendous victory for the Red Army (for many decades, some historians still continue to call it a victory and ignore facts), but as soon as historians got insight into the original war diaries of the Germans and the Red Army it became clear, that it was a disaster for the Red Army and there were barely any (5 tanks instead of the claimed 140+) losses for the German tank platoons. The power of deceit and unquestioned propaganda ladies and gentlemen.
@@prince-solomon Ive always heard the Germans biggest mistake was have a Corporal trying to tell Generals how to fight a war.
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Similar thing happened with the spartans. They had a good tactic that lasted a while, but as everyone learned and moved on, the spartans kept to their same tactics until it was too late
@@ZSTE I wouldn't really say that. The Spartans simply got Outsized. Their battle Tactics of the Phalanx got copied by the Macedonians and later on the Romans and remained for Several Centuries
War Thunder german teams taught me that all it takes is one T-34 or Sherman in a bush on a flank to bring down entire heavy tank collums driving blindly past their burning commrades without checking left or right. Ironic.
Yeah thats happened to me once, i am the heavy tank
Thats literally what happened to one of Germany's best tiger aces. He was in a column with two other tigers(he had a tiger as well) and a firefly Sherman hiding in a forest spotted them and blew them all up from the side.
"Armored bat out of Soviet hell"
Ok that line was glorious lol
The hell of the nazi
What time stamp
So the Soviet Union on any given day.
All Revved Up with No Place to Go
and I would do anything for love but I won't do that
@@thebrazilianhistorian6530 14:39
"Ah, what a beautiful day. The sun is shining, the breeze is perfect, the T-34's are coming over the hills-"
"THE T-34S ARE COMING OVER THE HILLS?!"
EDIT: 1.9K likes?! Calm down people! I just thought that scene was funny!😵💫
*Soviet Anthem Intensifies*
“Ya' listenin'? Okay, grass grows, birds fly, sun shines, and comrade', I hurt people”
- T-34
@@Kazak764 "BONK* I'MMA FORCE OF NATURE!"
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@@Jeff-zf6zz “If you were from where I was from, you’d be f**king dead! WHOOO!”
3:22 - Early in the Second World War.
*[ Outcome: Battle Draw ]*
11:08 - Middle of the Second World War.
*[ Outcome: German Victory ]*
16:50 - Late in the Second World War
*[ Outcome: Soviet Victory ]*
It cannot be draw when your track is destroyed and surrounded by enemies they shot you till you die when tracked is destroyed the crew will automatically withdraw unless they can fix it with no enemy surrounding so it's a clear German win
If you're wondering how the Russians fought the German heavy tanks:
There were 2 types of ambushes, with the help of field and anti-aircraft artillery and with the help of tanks.
1) Artillery high ground:
Field guns were positioned in a triangle, with a cape towards the rear. The gun farthest from the Germans (on the cape), led an enticing fire, and the rest (on the sides and closer to the Germans) were carefully camouflaged and silent. When enemy tanks drove closer to the enticing gun, the rest of the guns hit the side and stern of the German tanks.
2) Tank ambush:
About the same thing. One tank (usually a high-speed BT or T-34) conducted a maneuverable battle, luring the enemy, and the rest of the tanks were camouflaged and waited for the enemy to turn to them sideways or backwards.
A typical example is the battle of Stashov, when 8 T-34s (7 old T-34-76 and 1 new T-34-85) blocked the Oglendov-Stashov road and thus found themselves in the path of Tigers and Royal Tigers. (Later the field artillery came up.) The terrain was flat, the ground sandy. They had to disguise the tanks as haystacks. The T-34-85 of the youngest lieutenant Oskin then had to conduct flirting fire. Arkhipov ordered the young officer, when the command 307-305 sounds on the air and all guns start firing on the sides of the tigers, Oskin must hurry out of the battle. In the morning, the Germans appeared on the road. In the morning, the Germans appeared on the road.Oskin's T-34 opened fire on the lead tank. Hit, ricochet. A second shot set fire to a German tank. The Germans began to turn around on a lone T-34. By some miracle, Oskin managed to evade enemy shells. The cherished command 307-305 sounded! A hail of shells rained down on the German column. The brigade commander saw that the youngest lieutenant did not take the car out of the battle but continued to fire at the enemy. 76 and 85 millimeter shells ricocheted off the tigers' armor, tore off the cemerite coating, stunned the crew, disabled the tracks. Orchipov recorded all 3 destroyed tigers on Oskin. He risked more than others and fought almost point-blank. In the sides of all 3 tigers there were holes from their penetration by 85mm shells.
About the tank ambush, Soviets also use Lend-lease tanks like Matilda and M3 Stuart. 2 T-34 act as a bait for Tiger, when it came to the range M3 Stuart shot one side of the track and make the Tiger lean due to acceleration, exposed its rear for T-34-85 or Tank Destroyers like SU-76 and SU-85 to blast. In some rare cases Matilda also be sent to the back of Tiger and sniped it due to how quiet the engine of this tank is.
Remember kids, IS-2s and king tigers are temporary, the Bob Semple is eternal
Arjun is eternal.
Japan got lucky that they never encountered such a fearsome tank
@@Jose.AFT.Saddul it would’ve been effective
If used in trench warfare hah
@@darnit1944 no.
Its fearsome as hell
The only unrealistic part about this video is that the king tiger didn't burst it's transmission
“HANZ YOU S*** GET YOUR DAMN TANK IN THE FIELD”
“YOU CAN’T GET A TANK INTO BATTLE IF IT CAN’T F***ING MOVE, GÜNTHER”
This wouldn't have happened if they only imported the Bob Semple
@@danielomar9712 Germans: “OH NO”
@@stevemc01 Germans: "OH SHEIßE-" you meant?
@@anormalperson1188 Better
Some errors: The Battle of Prokhorovka was fought on the territory of the Russian Soviet Socialist Republic (not Ukraine). Baba Yaga wouldn't be used as a nickname for a male, it's an exclusively female character.
John Wick disagrees
@@velvetthundr The writers of John Wick have no clue about Slav folklore, shame.
Ukraine was a part of Russia at the part right?(Ukraine ssr)
@@FNihalJK no, both the Russian Soviet Republic and the Ukrainian Soviet Republic (as well as others) were part of the USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics).
It’s the name of the tank
14:20 "The sole member of his group that didnt breakdown on the way"
*Classic Heavy Cats trait*
The metal that flies off the inside of the tank due to a shell hitting the outside is not shrapnel. It's called spalling.
It's also basically shrapnel but just not directly from the shell.
@@VK-jy3pi exactly, you just explained the difference between spalling and shrapnel
Fortunately it's only
Shrapnel are steels balls packed into artillery shells, basically a super shotgun load. What you all are thinking of is actually fragmentation.
@@abizair1832 Its still shredding everything inside the tank as sharp, red got metal pieces bounce off the interior.
Seeing this series applies to tanks/vehicles has lots of potential, I’d love to see one comparing US vs Japanese carrier groups in the pacific
Or Luftwaffe fighter squadrons vs RAF fighter squadrons. Lots of potential all around.
For sure, esp. seeing how the relative strengths evolved over the course of the war.
that would be cool considering how inexperience the US was at the outset, and then the progression to having the USS Enterprises mission record
@@cheeseninja1115 Pretty much. Even at Midway which was the most decisive carrier battle of the war, the Japanese air crews & their support teams performed with greater efficiency. US success was owed more to the intelligence coup gained by US codebreakers, Nimitz' daring in making the most of it, the grit & determination of the American pilots, and a fair bit of luck. The inexperience in carrier operations was still showing for the Americans however, who did not get their aircraft up as quickly as the Japanese and who had trouble coordinating their strikes effectively. (though the lack of coordination ended up being an unexpected benefit)
I can't recall where I read it now but US Navy didn't reach the similar level of adeptness at carrier operations as the Kido Butai until 1944, at which point of course the IJN's quality had long been in sharp decline, the best pilots and support personnel largely lost to the Americans over the course of the Guadalcanal campaign.
The US was much better at damage control however, right from the start, though that one is more of a fleet wide thing and not specific to carrier operations. The Japanese were better at night fighting early on, though that likewise was more a general fleet advantage.
If this channel did a similar video with 3 encounters in 1942, 1943, and 1944 it would probably go Japanese > equal > Americans.
For a moment I thought you were going to write "US vs Japanese tanks".
Needless to say, such a video would be irrelevant both because there were barily any tank engagements between U.S. and japanese forces and because when they happend, they were not realy a competition and more of a one side automaticaly wins type of deal.
The animations and writing of these videos just keeps getting better. This has quickly become my favorite historical channel on this platform
Your profile pic is wierd
actually one of points in soviet commandship's orders says that straight duels between tanks without any reason are prohibited, as red tankers often lost their tanks, throwing them in this analogue of wrotunder and losing support of infantry. It makes more funny that fact: ISU-152, made for breaking fortifications and hard defence lines, often worked as tank destroyer, while ISU-122 made as TD, did function of ISU-152. usually tanks don't fight and they don't one-shot each other as it made in WT (with exceptions), but things during battle can turn in very surprising ways
Can't wait for *British V German Tank Platoons* eventually. The Matilda was a 'great' early war heavy tank with a 'superb' two-pounder (40mm) gun
(I find it even more hilarious HE ammunition couldn't be used for the two pounders)
Apparently, the British didn't provide the Matilda with HE rounds because of doctrine or something, not bc of lack of HE. Something about tanks not needing to use HE because HE was reserved for artillery/AT guns
@@onyxdragon1179 Unfortunately early North African British tankers were hampered by doctrine more than probably anything else.
It had good armor at least
@@Jcod_ imagine coming across an italian/german bunker in your impervious Matilda II they can't do anything about you, and all you can do is either strafe it with machineguns or give it a flimsy little 40mm hole of which you've given the men in that bunker another hole to shoot a rifle out of.
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(7:40) warthunder moment be like: "Don't worry Sergey were just red just shoot back at the noob using apcr"
They were fine, just need a shot of vodka to heal them.
I was thinking isnt the pzgr 39 better against the t 34 than the pzgr 40?
@Сергей Владимирович Таборицкий they aren't actually. The armor piercing cap is used to protect against shattering on hard armor, but it doesn't improve angle performance
@Сергей Владимирович Таборицкий 1979. It's a good sourse, but still a lie. Soft metal can't grip anything, the pressures are so high it behaves like a liquid. It is there to protect the shell from shattering on very hard armor, as it acts like a lubricant. It helped against t-34 armor because it was very hard, so most shells without armor piercing cap would just shatter.
experienced tank platoon commander during later stages: *"SCHEIS AUF UNERFAHRENE BESATZUGSMITGLIEDER!"*
The animations get better with every video. It's amazing to see how far this channel has come. Keep it up
The chance of 5 king tigers actually making it to the battle without breaking down is pretty unlikely. Seeing a tiger was pretty rare so seeing a king tiger would be very rare.
They were the most reliable heavy tank of ww2...
There reliability rating was 51% I believe it increased to 59% by the end of 1944...
It was rare to see them because they didn't quite produce 500 of them, about 150 were in the battle of the bulge the majority were abandoned due to oil shortages, some 600 were destroyed on factory floors thanks to the bombing campaign....
Yea you're right, a common misconception was that Tigers were used in a massive role in the Battle of Kursk where actually it was mainly Panzer IVs and IIIs leading the battle. While I feel that Tiger Tanks became more reliable towards the wars end, they definitely costed the Germans more than what they were worth.
@@project22-ab88 Why build 3 tanks for the price of 1...
Man hours saved, ammunition, oil, steel, traning all cut to save time and resources, the tank's were produced to destroy as many enemies as possible with the smallest amount of resources and they did there job.
This idear more tank's would have been great had Germany had more oil but it didn't.
@@brianlong2334
Yea uh no. It's been pretty well proven especially for armored warfare doctorine that quality over quality is far better than quality over quantity. As long as the tanks you produce aren't falling apart as they go into battle, has a decent gun, radio ect then its good enough to be mass produced. And yea you're right, German fuel consumption would've been their downfall which just goes to show that the Germans had no right fighting the war they tried to, but nonetheless crew quality also counted and near the end of the war the Germans just weren' fielding good tank crews. Most were cadets out of armored schools or Hitler Youth. So even if these models were built to stop as many as they could, it didn't matter because these inexperienced crewmen were being out flanked and outgunned with superior American, British and Russian crews ultimately resulting in the German heavies failing in their roles.
@@project22-ab88 So only numbers win a war...
History is obviously not your strongest point.
For every example of quantity wining there is the same number of quality wining, the different is it's more impressive when quality wins the day.
Your point is a very shallow understanding, I used to buy into it till I actually started doing real research on the subject.
Germany didn't lose to the soviets or USA alone.
The USA would have struggled to keep up with losses even though it had 42% of the world's war making potential, Germany had 22% Russia 15% and the UK/commonwealth 10%, Japan 5% Italy 5%.
None of them can be compared to the Arjun, the Bob Semple, and the Big Bob.
Durjoy tank is numba one
Panzer I vs. Bob Semple
Bob Semple was too OP, literally none of those tanks got destroyed
Truck with bmp1 turret or allah mobile is better
Bob simple stopped invasions before they even happened.
Amazing video, the animation was insane and loved all the details. Keep up the good work :D
This was really good. I really enjoy great WW2 Storytelling.
And this is some of the absolute best!!
Video Title is German vs Soviet Tank Platoons.
Literally every time it shows Red Army vehicles they are at Company strength or greater.
A Red Army tank platoon is three vehicles (regardless of if the vehicles are heavy/medium/light tanks, or self propelled guns). Each platoon is led by a captain with the other two vehicles being commanded by a lieutenant, and the lowest ranking crewmen is a junior sergeant.
no
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@@irasingh2498 no
@@irasingh2498 you bots are getting more and more creative. now you can change emojis.
@@nrw64 wow I never knew the TF2 Bot crisis spread to CZcams
German commanders when the Führer expects you to win in a 10:1 fight: ಠ_ಠ
imagine german commander face there battles like 10:1 in soviet favor.
The problem with the Tiger 2 was the poor quality of the armor. The hit of 122 mm shells did not penetrate, but broke through the frontal armor. And even non-penetration formed secondary fragments from the inner part of the armor.
As far as I know, it was recommended to avoid tank combat with the IS-2. Their effectiveness in video is underestimated.
The is 2 had terrible accuracy and bad range. So a tiger 2 would probably win
The poor quality is the result of the insanely bad natural ressources of Germany. Germany with the ressources/population of the US or the soviets would have cut through the soviets like a knife through butter.
@@nein236 yep
@@footballbasketball182hi5 are you sure?
"knocking him out cold in one strike."
Honestly, if I'm going to be knocked out, "in one strike", would be my preferred method.
Don't need that taking all day.
Yeah, quick and easy. Even if it's painful, it wont last long
Imagine if this was a WoT match. Every Soviet tank will just rush one Tiger and pen the sides, and one guy is gonna shoot a cupola
7:43 Sadly its WT
@@anormalperson1188 I did said "Imagine if"
LMAO very true russian bias is real
Imagine playing a healthbar game instead of the chad realistic war thunder
@@alexvonrom7942 Imagine playing a game with a child community hating a health bar game and literally thinks like a nazi saying they are the superior game as if Hitler is saying the Aryan race is the superior human being 🤡🤡🤡
holy crap the live chat has had more arguments than my parents
Damn man i just checked it
Average "historian" in action
Neo Nazis in live chat
Always entertaining to watch
@@conorflynn7094 No, more like tankie in the live chant
In a nutshell.
Germans: Supertanks, good, ya ya. Let's make titans that will break down every 5 minutes and will cost like a small fleet of Ferraris each.
USSR: Don't care about the comfort of tankers, war in general is a harsh thing. We will make them cheap and easy to repair, and we will release a lot of them. It should be a ride.
7:44 : Critical hit. Gunner killed. Loader killed. A countdown appears as a guy from nowhere enters in the turret and takes the body of the gunner off the tank
War thunder x ray cam
3:36 All great, thanks for the video, but, there is one mistake. Red Army didn't use any shoulder shoulder straps at all, (When it transformed in Soviet Army) until 1943, Red Army, including tank squads, used the alternative system of rank insignia. All because in Soviet Union shoulder traps for a long time were linked with White Army's and Tsar's army. Thank you for attention, with love from Russia!
for a long time was associated with White Army**
Не знаю за что ему любовь свою озвучивать, обыкновенной англофонский метафизический треш со всем любимым: божественным чтением транскрипций, дурацким сценарием и зачастую ложными выводами.
Don’t forget, it’s mainly the experience of the crews that decided who will be the victor, not the tanks themselves.
A bit of both. If a crew is good, but a tank is horrible, what chance does experience have? As long as your tank is decent enough, id say you're right.
Not quite. Let Michael Wittman commandeer a Chi-Ha and see how it well it would go.
@@DoctorDeath147 or put group of militias consists of womens, farmers and childrens in a Jagdtiger.
@@johanmikkael6903 except the jagdtiger was extremely bad and even experienced tankers didn’t like them
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I really appreciate all the effort they put into the animations
Every video from Armchair Historian is another declaration of pure premium quality
2:25 Hoi4 players explaining how Germany could have won ww2
Just make 40w medium tanks with support and CAS bro
Eh, they would if America had stayed neutral, no way the Soviets would have been able to come back from the devastation that came from the scorched earth tactics they used to stave off the German offensive without American help with the Lend Lease program giving them thousands of trucks, factory equipment from Ford and GM and transport vessels allowed them to rapidly rebuild their manufacturing base, whereas the Germans were getting theirs bombed to hell and had no "neutral" allies to help them out. It was pretty much over the second America entered the war.
@@domvasta US was never "neutral" in WWII. Since even still at peace it heavely supported Allies through Cash & Carry program then Lend-Lease. Anyway they couldn't not help the Allies since US leadership was opposed to Germany
@@domvasta I totally agree mate. The Germans could have taken the Soviet Union if they hadn't declared war on America, why the hell they made that decision I'll never know.
Kaiserschlacht (Spring Offensive of 1918) fron the German perspective will make a good video.
Probably mostly about tired stormtroopers
The Armchair Historian you are right in saying by the end of the war the Germans were fighting a defensive war with ill-suited tanks, and that the Tank crews were inexperienced but what I would also like to add is that the 50% of German Tanks were destroyed by their own side rather than the enemy. This was because of a lack of fuel.
One such example is in the battle of the Bulge where Hitter had instructed his army into a blitzkrieg in late 1944, hoping to get into Antwerp where they would hope that they would use some of their enemies oil, even though they used a completely different fuel than they do. The German generals who were already opposed to the battle was urging Hitler to withdraw, but he told his soldiers to continue advancing. By the end of the battle, their advance stalled because of a lack of fuel, and so so few fuel that they could not withdraw even if they wanted to. So many Germans either surrendered or died, with war ending literally months after the failed battle. It is estimated that the same number of German tanks got destroyed by their own side than the enemy. So in reality their tanks, certainly in 1945 were as good as useless.
Hitlers generals wasn't so foresighted. Many times they are not, but after the WW2 they blamed their faults on Hitler:
czcams.com/video/6FoiU_jkL0Q/video.html
They should have just mass build anti tank weaponry and focused the entirety of their oil on supplying the Luftwaffe only to deal with the bombing and keep the war machine going.
@@LastBrigadier the infantry and artillery side of the Germans was even bigger meat-grinder than the tank fleet, at least in the ultra heavy tanks you had minimal chance to survive till 43 as your only opponents *ware* light and medium tanks.
@@peterdenov4898 You didn't understand friend, tanks needed fuel, anti tank cannons however didn't and could be set be defensively
That's some great art! Fascinating details, thank you.
11:09 "It's a fine summer day, in the fields of Prokhorovka"
*SABATON SABATON SABATON!*
What song was that again
@@jeanettetuban1696 Panzerkampf
@@chickentendies9581 thanks
@@chickentendies9581 Steel Commanders works too
7:43 This scene brings back memories of losing at War Thunder
@The Armchair Historian Great work once again brother!! no matter how many times I watch your content I never get bored
Love the content! Your channel ks getting intersting day by day! Absolutely love it.
Honestly I would have loved the last one to have an bIaS-3 in it just to have the king Tiger commander yell “Gott im himmel” at the impervious Is-3
The long 88 can't pen the Is-3 from the front, so it's hilarious for the German commander to be surprised
Germans:" Ah what wonderful day we're having in the nice fields of prakarovka the sun is shining a gentle breeze pass by the T-34s are coming over the hills"
…T34’s ARE COMING OVER THE HILLS?!
These videos are getting better and better. I love your content !
"This isnt war- this is sport"
ah, yes, a certain potato dwanf would agree to that
This was just phenomenal. I really look forward to more of these. Glad I caught it live too. Really like the community here.
I love videos like this. Wondering if you guys will do ones about planes and ships
Yes I hope
Your Videos are awesome , every frame is a Masterpiece 👋
Thank you 🙏
Greets from Germany
These are my favorite video types made from you guys, so cool and the music is on point
The only unrealistic thing in this video is that the crews are not highschool anime girls
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I was waiting for this video so long!!!
I don´t really see the point this video is making? I mean the title is German vs Soviet tanks which would imply general statements but it simply consists of nitpicked extreme examples of tank duels which are already hardly the norm. But there are plenty of examples of Soviet tanks winning against equal or superior numbers that could have been chosen. In fact there are even examples of single or small number of Soviet tanks destroying dozens of German tanks like the battle of Raseinai.
But the point isn´t that "oh see Soviet tanks are just as good". The point is that such anecdotes are completely outside the norm and useless for a good description of what combat was actually like. Because when we look at tank losses especially later in the war post 43 they aren´t that far apart.
Very well said, I agree completely
But it looks cool. That's all that matters-
The point is to review constructional and tactical changes during the war and how armies acted in it. And it's pretty accurate except only shown front attacks and excepting ambushes which red army often provided even using heavies
The IS-2 won most of their engagements against the King Tiger, so i was a bit apauled when he showed a fight where the IS-2 underperformed in comparison.
@@chibanga88 honestly these fights were won because of superior strategy, like in Sandomirsh. In video KTs and IS-2 faced each other equally so tiger had some supremacy, as he had IRL
The comments are really like: “German tanks were mechanically unsound”
3,000 angry weraboos in the replies say otherwise.
Eh….it’s the usual “haha german tank breakdown give me likes now” and the usual wehraboos
It doesn't take a wehraboo to tell how great German tanks are
@@rizkiramadhan9266 ok wehraboo
Oh BOY I can’t wait to see German vs American or American Vs Japanese tank platoons,
And how confused the tripartite part is when the see the alpha chad m3 roll out
American vs Japanese tanks will be a joke
@@raptordoniv6779 yeap, the japanese tank for what i recall they were bad except against infantry without at support.
Hell even .50 cal machine gun can pierce through most Japanese light tanks of WW2
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@@juanignacioflores3820 poor Imperial Japanese army, the Navy got favoured and they got left in the dust. In the end helping the Navy over the Army didn’t really help Japan’s chances of winning.
14:18 "As the soul memeber that didn't break down"
Im not sure If I should be laughing
This is the best video I have seen in a long time!! thank you
The artist is amazing, its like a movie!
Amazing video!! Loved the different scenarios!
I love that you're doing armored battles now. I look forward to future videos of the same caliber ❤
70 T-34's: "We have you surrounded!"
1 Tiger: "I ran out of fuel"
A note on the second battle. During the battle of Kursk about more than 1/3 of Soviet tanks were light T-70's.
To be exact the 5th Guards Tank Army had 501 Т-34, 264 Т-70 and 35 Churchill III.
"I realized how much he says S and C alot lol"
Now you can't unhear it
OH NO YOU’RE RIGHT
Yo make a game with this animation it would be so good. I do have a question though during the 2nd fictional battle. When the T-34s were coming over the hill they had (1942) turrets. When the board shows that they’re (1941) varaints. And then later on when the Tiger appears they all have 1941 turrets. Though it might be done to save time I thought you had both models with animation specific to those models. No rush though but I would like a video about the Naval scene of WW2 since we have gone through infantry, tanks, and aircraft . So it makes sense we do the last and final wing of the military.
They are making a game, with the same animation in the Franco-Prussian war video.
It could probably be like advance wars.
@@enderjed2523 if you haven't seen the moviment mchanics, check their channel
@@Alkivo it would be awesome if they out a WW2 mode
@@amychan811 yeah that would be awesome!
15:30 lol
well, at such a distance, there were definitely shells for 76 mm guns that would calmly penetrate 100mm of tiger hull armor
APCR will but they do limited damage
76 APHE are around 90mm
I’ve watched this four times now. We need more of these videos
What a good thing to watch before work. Perfect timing
In fact, of all Soviet tanks, only the IS-2 was In accordance with the time. It had good optics, good visibility and good radio communication. The rest of the Soviet tanks lagged behind in this.
The Other tanks had 980+ ping and the IS-2 had only 12 ping
Not much of a surprise since the soviets weren't ready when the Germans attacked :/
@@schmeatgaming853 Many Soviet players were just f2p players who doesn't even have good PC to handle lag when German players are in sight.
The T34 was far ahead of it´s time in 41. It should also be noted that Soviet deep battle and the way T34s were used is far closer to modern military doctrine and tank design than anything the Nazis did.
@@XMysticHerox Far ahead yes, but wasn't equipped with powerful guns and was used ineffectively during the early stage of war. In the latter stage, it had proven itself and turned into a more formidable foe for the German Panzers.
@@tranthiminhchauam5538 i literally have a laptop yet my shell could go through an IS-2's track and i would kill it because Warthunder is pain
Everyone is talking about how you should make a video about other WW2 tank engagements,but i for one suggest a video about german A7Vs and British Mark Vs,that would truly be an interesting video.
This may be the best video on this channel till now!!
This video series seems to have potential. I love to see a video on American n German tank platoons. Or even one on American n Japanese tank platoons. I think they would be quite informative. Great video.
@@strangelyukrainian7314---Yeah I know Japanese tanks sucked. But still I feel that it wouldn't hurt to find out just how much they did suck.
What about Australian v Japanese tanks?
@@enderjed2523---That sounds interesting. Did Australia have tanks of their own in WWII?
@@brokenbridge6316 Yep, they had British Matildas, Modified Maltilda's with flamethrowers, the Australian made Sentinel AC1 to AC4, and if we delve into the paper/blueprint/prototype tanks then you get stuff like the Cossor Land Cruiser, G. Crowther's 'Land Fortress Tank', Gerrey Machine Gun Motor Vehicle, Grasshopper Light Tank, Melvaine’s Mobile Pill Box, Modra Revolving Light Tank and Puckridges Land Battleship.
@@enderjed2523---They all sound fun. Thanks for telling me.
Oh, simple: the Soviets are annihilated. Than another platoon appears, to be annihilated in similar fashion. Then a third one, ditto. Then the fourth eventually smashes by sheer numbers through the depleted Germans.
Or so the Wehrmacht enthusiast that fed us military history all through the Cold War and beyond told us.
All according to the precepts of Uncle Guderian and other Wehrmacht generals who are trying to whitewash their name after the war and no one cares that everything was really different
Yeah. Realistically, unless it's barbarossa or early 1943, it's more like only 2 soviet platoons annihilated ;3
@@thelordofcringe it’s more like no soviet platoons annihilated. 14 IS-2s engaged a company of 18 tiger IIs at olgedow, where multiple tiger IIs were captured and one is at the kubinka museum today
@@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here Nah soviets got clapped all the time, US hyper-manufacturing and lend-lease act (essentially giving the soviets free money and war materiel) allowed them to barely stop the Germans
@@user-pn3im5sm7k "barely stop" lmao they went all the way from Moscow to Berlin
Your videos are the best, and I wish you the utmost success!!!
That last part reminds me of MS Igloo. When the Zeeks finally developed a hard counter to the RX series in the form of the Gelgoog but the only ones they could find to crew it were rookies, resulting in a loss against GMs piloted by vets from the battle of Solomon. MSG really draws a lot from WW2.
The only things I'm questioning is the facts that the King Tiger crews were inexperienced and that they fired on the move.
King Tiger and Tiger crews were often picked from already proven tank crews, as that way the "tanks that mattered" were properly manned. Though many of these crews would need to adapt to a heavy tank, as most would be drawn from tanks like the panzer 4. So the word I'd use is unfamiliar with the tank, not inexperienced.
Then it is common knowledge (even in that time) that firing on the move is horrid. It is way more inaccurate as even the most advanced technologies at the time were nowhere close to stabilising shots on the move. Furthermore tiger tanks were forbidden from firing on the move as the turret could jam from the backblast if they fired on the move. I am unsure but would assume the same goes for the Tiger 2, as it has an even heavier and more potent cannon. Even if not the case, official panzer documents forbid the tigers from firing on the move.
That said, I absolutely love these comparisons, as they show not only individual engagements but the war as a whole, the Soviets having numerical superiority in virtually every battle past fall 1941 and the Germans being driven into more and more desperation. Truly Armchair Historian quality.
"We'll be at Moscow by summer."
We'll be in Berlin in 4 years.
@@CM-ve1bz We'll be at sex when married.
@@eliasziad7864 ? Wtf is that's supposed to mean.
Sir, your videos just gets better 👍
I watch his channel grow and his animation grow to be outstanding
German tank names in 2075:
Panzerkamphagendeutchlandshittencrappen mk2
German tank name in 2075 Al-Assad.
French tank name in 2075 Al-Assad.
Belgian Tank name in 2075 Al-Assad.
Dutch tank name in 2075 Al-Assad.
Norwegian tank name in 2075 Al-Assad.
Swedish tank name in 2075 Al-Assad.
United Kaliphate tank name in 2075 Al-Assad.
@@kirbyculp3449 thankfully the al Assad types are to dumb to build tanks.
Took me until now to appreciate this channels ambition level.
Nice production bro 😎
20:52 German gunner seems to read mind of his commander
Think you'd be better of splitting these in to different timeframes of the war and picking different battles/scenarios or they'll all be 2-1 as basically every theatre were something along the lines of allies lose a lot then win it all back and then some.
It would also let you make shorter videos and more of them, helping your revenues
You could do British vs Germans/Italians in 1940?
It's a different time and a different battle, could be interesting
Fantastic video again guys! Good work!
11:07 to 15:50 is a brilliant and exciting short story worth the skipped ads alone!
If you guys make another fire and maneuver game, please make it WW2 era tank battles.
Really want to see some Churchill VII’s in this series, maybe even the Churchill crocodile?
The animation is so fucking good! Good work the armchair historian!