The Key to Strikers in Football Manager
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2021
- The most important position in soccer or football is the forward. They make the most money, the tactics are built around them, they score the goals and they have the coolest hair. Football Manager is no different, except for maybe the hair part, FM and the Newgan facepack are still trying to figure that part out. This video goes over every forward role so you can take advantage of your striker’s attributes to dominate in any type of tactic.
As with my video about fullbacks, this video uses a bunch of examples! You can see how the different roles play and where those types of players will end up. These are incredibly fun FM videos to make, they do take time, but I feel like they provide a lasting positive impact on the whole football manager community, being able to understand tactics and roles more intimately. This is the sort of tactical breakdown I will come back and watch sometimes to make sure I still am thinking about football manager stuff the right way, so enjoy!
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That intro Zealand. That was too funny. I thought it couldn't get any better until that False 9 came through
This is the type of video I needed the most. Showing what the players are doing in-game and highlighting the moments for each striker position. I hope you do this with Midfielders, Wingers, Defenders, and Goalkeepers. Really great video Z!
Really wanna see him do that with Wide men! Like, How effective Defensive Winger is or Wide Target Man
@@youssefremy6173 I know this is an old comment but running a defensive winger with a really strong attacking fullback can work not bad. It helps cover the gaps an overlapping full back can have in the event of a turnover, I have only ever ran it out of a 4-4-2 however so limited sample size. I found it works well at lower table teams if you have a weaker defence that is getting mulched on counters.
I once retrained a CD into a PF, paired with two wingers turned him into an assistance machine.
details!
@@M8cool Fm20, not very original but I wanted to go with a 4-3-3 highpressing. BBM-BWM-DLP, FBs (crossing from deep) and finally RMD-PF-W. The PF had as very good CD high aerial stats, overall good physicals and some crazy agression/teamwork right from the start (he was a newgen) technic was on 12 too so he was somehwat decent at passing. By training him as PF in about 5-6 years he developed as a good passer holding the ball and using the speed of the wingers to get assistances, with experience he got notorious in composure and off the ball too. With ocasional headers the lad was an absolute leader in the frontline as a mix between Target man/PF/F9. Built the team around him also focusing less in quality (the only decent passer was the DLP) and focusing on speed, workrate, stamina, teamwork and tackling (high aggression in DM and FBS too) in defense and midfield. I've basically done the same this year but with Moukoko as F9 (got the lad on a free as Dortmund didnt want to improve his contract ha!). Team is rock solid in defense and hitting on the counter.
PS: Of course his weakest was his utter lack to carry the ball and finishing and overall flair, however he enabled attacks and allowed direct play with long kicks from the GK making the RMD in particular bang an average of 20-30 goals per season (1st Spanish Division) with the W over 10-20.
@@08Rolling that's mad. You got the tactic uploaded somewhere I want to try it on my rags to riches save
Kurt Zouma from my Chelsea save with his great strength and heading ability approves of your tactical mastery.
Advanced Forward gang raise up!
I only ever play advanced forward 😂
Rise
Fm 19 morata won golden boot and ball with advenced forward. In my save with Chelsea
I am a new player
Pls help
I have had an agreement with Rafael leao wonder kid for 12m, his price is 11m with no clauses or so, a good deal
But later I fkced up, cause he was demanding 90k wages and I gave him 70 and with some extra bonuses.
So he rejected my deal.
Did I miss out a good player.
Chelsea save😭
@@utsavbasu1048 11m for leao is very good, you should be able to go back in for him after a few weeks and hell be ready to negotiate again
The Deep lying Forward in the intro made me laugh so hard 😂😂😂
This is a really good breakdown and I love the examples.
One of the things I've been experimenting with is retraining some of forwards to play as a Shadow Striker in situations where I'm the underdog - that starts them off deeper to support against the opposition midfield but they're aggressive enough to pose a goal threat. Shadow Striker is a much more effective role in this version of FM, too.
12:39 CM Attack is my favorite position/role combination on FM this year. Almost like a SS from midfield and with more defensive capabilities.
Your videos are great dude. I watch them when they come out and you have a way of putting fm information in a really easy to digest format.
I recently finally started my first save, after watching lots of streams and videos. I picked RB Salzburg to get some training wheels ony my bike. Gotta gobble all these vids up.
In this FM I wanted to create 2 things I've never done before: a threatening number 10 and a goalscoring machine number 9. Then the magical offensive midfielder (attack) and the poacher were born. Now I have a 60~70 goal a year striker. I'm so happy. First time using anything other than a false 9 or deep-lying forward.
that intro was mesmerizing
Advance forward is so good this year. Love a 4-2-4 with advance and pressing support as 2 strikers
The intro is so hilarious and point on! Thank you Zealand, can't believe it took me this long to see this video, keep up the great work!
Goin through ten different strikers trying to find one that can consistently create chances and score goals while my two wingers and two midfielders rack up 10+ goals a season each
Been there done that
Had 2 different wonderkids in now. Both in their preferred position then tried in a different position. Both 4* with 6/7 green stats, both getting no more than 20 goals a season in all competitions, don’t know what I’m doing wrong
@@zacbro2841 20 is alright, especially if they still have growth to do
@@deeznoots6241 suppose so 30 goal involvements too but I expected more from these wonderkids, I’ve seen people with worse players doing better d
@@zacbro2841 Both having 20 goals a season is amazing for me. Most of my strikers can only go to 15 goals at average.
my fav 2 man striker role is target man attack and DLF support (roaming instruct), patient in working to the box, great fluidity with the wingers or midfielder coming from deep and superb receiver when crossing from the deep
This feels like my lecture video. The amount of knowledge is insurmountable.
Love this, you analyse the game brilliantly and explain it very well. Good job dude 👍🏻
This is my favourite video you have created and the most useful, I love the intro absolutely brilliant.
Hi Zealand, very useful video, thanks! Can I ask what passing directness do you use to activate these sort of moves with DLF dropping to receive the ball.
Spilled my cereal at the deep lying forward .. Id say thats a sign of a good video
The best advanced forward I ever had was a fairly limited footballer technically with only 12 for finishing and first touch, but 20 for composure and amazing mentals. Mentals are important.
I like these videos, I understand the roles but I like to see examples of what they do. Also got into FM back in 2019, I haven't played FIFA for around a month, this game has replaced FIFA for me.
Also the main reason I got into FM is this year in the game time of fm19 I won the Champions League with Arsenal.
I play with two pressing forwards and I'm getting a lot of joy playing an attacking gegenpress.
Your vids are very entertaining while giving great info too. top job mate
I tend to play a very aggressive inside-foward style where the Striker is more there to disrupt and facilitate for the wide men cutting inside. Pressing forward is my jam!
I also tend to not have the big bad 30-goal-a-season striker but more of "modern-day-Ajax" mentality where we have BY FAR the most teamgoals but not a single player in the top5 goalscorers.
I think Pressing Forwards are one of the better striker roles. It also depends on your formation and style of play, but they offer so much defensive effort, especially in a two-striker-system that a high pressing is very effective. On attacking they tend to do similar things on and off the ball as an Advanced Forward and on support they also drop off like a Target Man oder a Deep Lying Forward. So maybe Pressing Forward is a little bit underrated.
Pressing Forward/False 9 and Shadow Striker works wonders for me
for me rn im doing a save with leipzig, and we are at the international break, and werner who I was playing as a pressing forward, so far has scored 27 goals and we are top of bundesliga, so yeah it works well for me
I agree yhe PF is highly underrated. I managed to to sign Benjamin Sesko to my Barcelona side and he's been a god ever since, currently leading the league in goals. The year before i signed a guy called Pedro from brazil and he led the league in goals for two straight seasons. The PF turns average strikers into monsters, with the right training ofcourse.
PF-S is so dominant
I'm fairly new to Fm, but i've taken to playing my players in their preferred role, instead of in a role that might fit the tactic better. My Rhian Brewster currently is at 26 goals in 32 games on my fm20 Swansea save as an advanced forward.
Best intro since the long throw video Z 👍🏼
Great intro and really good video as always!
Portilla Chips and Intro Descriptions have made my day. Thanks Zealand :)
Big longtime fan Z.
Here comes the challenge.
Near as I can see it there exists no true guide for sponsorship on the net for any FM ever. I recognise that it is much to do with rng but a video explaining what you can get and how to influence it would be extremely helpful and an opportunity to do a 'kind of' first.
i loove these videos !! so educational that i'm crying in tears!! and that intro
I like the 4231 so it usually depends if the AMC i have is the goalscoring type or the creative type.
I took woking from the conference to the champions league in 6 seasons. That sort of thing doesnt go unnoticed.
Impressive bro. What team did you do this with?
Best intro I have ever seen hands down!
Your sense of humor is up there>>>>😂😂😂
You just got a new subscriber for life man
The biggest issue with a Complete Forward is that if you have a good one, everyone and their grandmothers will try to poach him, and they're difficult to replace.
So far, I've had the most success offering contracts that take effect at End of Season. That way, my star players have always 'just signed a new contract' when the next big transfer window opens up.
Oh wow never thought of that. Brilliant.
COMPLETE FORWARD + TARGET MAN
It was a great video, really helpful, you rock ma dude
So in 2 striker formations, how do the different striker roles play with each other? That would help me as I often role with a pressing and advanced forward combo, but not sure if that works regardless of the individual strikers.
Mate, genuinely the best English accent i've ever hear out of an American ever
Hi Zealand, this video was great. I loved how you included highlights of how certain strikers behave, including their pairings. If possible, could you make a video about how to utilize lone strikers in 4-3-3 or similar formations?
In my current save, I have trouble getting my lone striker on the end of attacks when I play against more defensive sides that park the bus.
ask on one of his more recent videos, he definitely wont see this
I have usually only played 1 Forward but in FM21 I tried 2 upfront and boy is it good for goalscoring. This FM really rewards good positive tactics and plays.
But how to you do that without conceding too much at the other end? Also I "hate" wingers because most of them are natural at the AMR/AML but not at ML and MR.
@@JS-Connection I use AMR and AML wingers on support, cm attack, dm ball winner with 2 Ball Playing CB on def and 2 IWB on support. It has work extremely well. I have taken Coruna on 3 successive promotions and currently 4th with 8 left in 1st season in La Liga. You score lots goals and generally defend well. The IWB really cover alot of holes in the formation.
Pressing Forward's my favourite!
Zealand, commendations on your Australian accent! Love your videos, mate. A fan from Australia.
This guy knows how to start a vid. Presentation 💯
Every highlight ends with a Portilla goal
Did he just say Portilla... chips?
Hi. I'm new to football manager. Just bought fm21 earlier this week and I love it so much. Also, the real life footballer example is really helpful for better understanding. Thanks for your video!
For a Pressing C.F. Both Patrick Bamford & Ollie Watkins are good examples.
They both press the opposing back line, look to assists as well as goals.
Bamford I bit tried as a Complete CF yet as he consistently performs well in my custom high tempo gengen press that I am playing on my Leeds save.
Rodrigo as well as being a cross between a CF, number 10 & winger, makes a great DLF if I am not playing a number 10 as well as a great AF with a number 10.
I tend to rotate the 2 of them with a younger player I develop alongside side them.
Welcome to the club', lad.
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Best intro I've seen in my youtube-watching-career fucking hell ahahaha
Great video as always!
Best intro to any video ever!
Hee man, I would like to know what your opinion is about the 4-3-3 gegenpress style with on the midfield a Regista, Roaming playmaker and a Box To Box Midfielder. Further in the fronline: 2 pressing forwards left and right and 1 advanced forward in the middle.
Ive always had the combo of Target man (support) and Poacher. works like a charm
Same. I love this combo
I just needed the intro, now I know everything I need :)
I still watch the rest, mostly for the hair, but also for the jokes...
This helped so much. Holy shit. I vaguely understood the roles and why I was using them but have been struggling with what to do with my second striker. I know exactly what I'm going to do now though.
SS and DLF got reverse movement. An SS Will go forward on possesion, and track back when the team dispossesed. A DLF stay forward on dispossesion, and track back to mid while the team got the ball (basically to bait the Defenders to track him, so it Will create a pocket space to Exploit by teammates)
I have a partnership of zapata as target forward drawing defenders and opening chances for my Pressing Forward Morata, love it.
I never thought i d see the day of you saying it's ok to use two AF. Maybe i should try it
Loved the vídeo and the intro 🔥
I've got a league 2 level Target Man on support (Tunde Owolabi) and a League 1 level Advanced Forward on Attack ( Juanito Lopez ) in the Northern Premier league division ( below vanarama n/s with custom db with all 14 tiers ) . Owolabi is bagging tons while the clearly better Lopez in a more advanced role isn't. How do I make him score more ?
What does a Pressing Forward need in terms of team tactics or supporting teammates, what role does the teammates must have? I'm using Timo Werner as a PF as that's his most suitable role. I'm playing FM20 btw not 21, I saved him from the prem and keep him in Leipzig lol
Yes its true pressing forward does not need good technical attributes I have a Finnish player in league 2 who have beastly physical attributes, and he has 4 finishing 10 composure, but he still scores 10-15 goals in 35-40 games.
Love the intro !
Lol! Absolutely loved the intro!
Intro is epic! 😁👌
Yesss Zealand!!! Please try for wingers
I really needed this video... I feel like am the only person whose strikers dont get to 20+ goals in a season especially when i get to the Prem 😪
That's why I rotate them.they still don't score more but they score same amount in less number of matches
Use 2 strikers combo. I've had same problems with a lone striker, now I hv switched my formation to 4-2-4 wing play. Now my AF score 40+ goals & cf(support) scores 20-30 goals a season
@@arkokarmakar3596 ye same 40 goals on my 19 yo in
@Ben Johnson go for inter Milan! Lukaku + lautaro will wreak havoc. Also sign gnonto from Zurich if u want
@Ben Johnson inter is a really fun save! I always start with inter or west ham
Quality intro 😂😂😂 Flamboyant Trequartista and Arrogant Complete Forward
I had haaland on a poacher and he scored 42 goals in all comps
And I'm a noob at fm so I'm a bit proud
For me 97 and was second after mbappe with 112 I think I broke the game:)
@@mariusthechamions8966 ayo wtf
@@Notverysupercoach just like that, 3412 and broke the game
It doesn't matter who I play or what role I always struggle with ym strikers, my wingers are normally my top scorers by some distance. So far in my 4th season at arsenal I've had lacazette, auba, nketiah, martinelli, calvert-lewin, duro, jesus, muokoko & a saucy regen signed from barca but hes more for the future. Obviously changing them around won't help but they all had decent runs in the team, muokoko and jesus and my 2 now with martinelli covering lw or St in cup games but the rest have all been just dreadful being outscored by pepe despite him being 2nd choice and even Nelson in the 2nd season.
Fun fact muokoko joined in January and scored more than double between then and the end of the season than dcl managed in a full season including europa league group stage
Bartol Barisic as an Advanced Forward in my Dinamo save has been incredible for me, same with Brenner and Kaio Jorge at Ajax on another save.
Oh nice. I'm sure you like all these fine young players in the Dinamo sqaud. Šaranić is amazing.
@@1lacas Yep, I've got Saranic as an ACM after I sold Majer to PSG!
@@gavinharrison132 niiice, Majer is a beast in my save. He went to Southampton for big money. Did you maybe scout Kuzminski? He's so good
I was literally trying to find the answer to this yesterday
I just wanted to share my personal most successful striker ever, Timo Werner as a Complete Foward in attack in FM19 with Liverpool. IDK why, but he gets 60+ goals and 10+ assist per season without playing for Germany, He got 81 goals in 62 games in his third season.
The weird part is that my friends also tried to use him and Timo failed them like irl lol
And to be clear, even without Firmino, Mane, Bruno Fernandes (it is a wild save as every save with a big club), etc, facilitating for him (And Salah being Salah, except for 1 season with 25+ assists), He keeps scoring at an impossible rate.
Depending on the version you're playing, the German national team may not be playable. Hence you can have a world-class German player who will never be called up for his team
@@blinkusfishus2052 Yeah I know, but I was making it clear that he got 70+ g/a per season even without the national team games, because some people maybe didn't know about that fact
love these videos
I use 2 complete forwards in my lower league Wales save. High expectations lead to optimal results.
probably the best intro in the history of zealand channel
check star ratings one
@@Yayo1923 ah yes i forgot the dance
Donny malen as a advanced forward on my save 4 years in a row 35+ goals in the prem every season 43 in one
Keep up the great vids
Contemplative Zealand in the thumbnail = banger vid
Trick question, I’m always contemplative
that freaking entrance i swear
Zealand, how do Inside forwards interact with a play-making/attacking forwards? For my standard formation I play a 4-2-3-1, with an IF on the left, a W on the right and an AF as my striker. I find consistent that my IF scores more goals than my AF.
me too. Orsolini 20+goal a season when my AF
I’ve had the same problem. I need to look into it more so this is by no means guaranteed, but I reckon IF actually starves the AF of supply because he’s looking to finish more on his own, leaving AF to go chasing for rebounds or deep outlet passes. Starting to think that maybe getting a play making forward could work better with these types of wingplayers because while I do love the overload it can create in the penalty area, it often feels like the striker does absolutely nothing because he’s trying to feed himself off of scraps.
It's because the IF has more space to work in than the AF :)
Are this tier lists somewhat close to accurate to what they would be in fm24?
Zealand my man, you should try Hollywood man lol.
one of your best intros
I typically play a complete forward on support with two inside forwards on the wings and that’s where I get my goals from. It’s always worked for me no matter what team I use.
COMPLETE FORWARD + TARGET MAN
I play 433 with advanced on left, complete in middle and poacher on right score shed loads of goals 👍😉
Ive used a PF and have had alot of success with it i had moussa marega scoring 20 goals in ligue 1
Can Trequartista work next to Poacher? I was thinking the Treq moves into channels, drags defenders away, plays killer balls, the Poacher stays central and feeds off the chances. But both offer no pressing and don't help the midfield.
Great stuff thanks
Poacher took me forever to combine properly. He really needs either Messi Hollywood throughballs or a lot of people pushing up with him in the box. Trying to play him as an AF who doesn't dribble ranged from poor to average at best. Inside forwards/Striker partners on attack/midfielders on attack with him and all of a sudden he kept finding himself unmarked in the box for sneaky tap ins out of nowhere. Because he doesn't dribble, he'd also often receive and play in a free runner inside the box while being triple marked himself.
This is the best intro 😂
Best intro :D
Hello everyone, I am currently struggling with my strikers. I do play a 5-3-2, with a CM on Attacking and a Mezzala in the Midfield. My defence is insane, but I don’t get the goals. I want to have a creative striker and a goalscorer. So they do get supported by 3 and a half other players. I play Tiki Taka, which roles would be good for my strikers?
"Tautology" is word of the day
Zealand you are too funny!
Would it be a fair description to call a Complete Forward on Support as "An Advanced Playmaker that can shoot" and one on Attack as "A Poacher that can pass"?
Not enough cone shape fingers Italian gesture on trequartista. Plus, I love DLF, how could you do that to me Z?
ALRIGHT, you convinced me to change my 4231 into a 442
44, bloody 2 is in fact... occasionally overlooked
This is why I run a 4-2-3-1 with a Trequartista.
I went unbeaten in League 1 one season with a complete forward
Zealand, dude.. Have you noticed that when a player has a blinder of a game he gets an energy boost?
best intro youve done, congrats
Very close 2nd imo. Behind headbanging for 3 mins straight
@@Roscododger That was absolutely based