Why Lower League FM is Harder than Ever

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  • čas přidán 2. 05. 2021
  • Football Manager had to react to the COVID pandemic as much as the real world itself did, as it tries to replicate the actual footballing world itself. This has combined with some other trends to lead a whole host of FM players into stalemates in lower leagues that in previous years, the Football Manager gods had been able to prevent. We take a look at the financial and transfer changes that have led to everything from scouting to tactics not being able to carry you from league 15 to league 1 nearly as easily.
    It is still obviously possible. I have done it in Portugal and plenty of hardy Football Manager players have pulled off their classic lower league saves all over the world with a whole pile of trophies. But, I trust my DMs as a barometer of how the FM community is feeling, and lower league management is biting hard for lots of folks. That’s why I end this video with my best tips and tricks for overcoming this roadblock that has been erected on the path to greatness. Or at least the path to FM happiness, whatever that may look like for you, I’m here to help you find it.
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Komentáře • 201

  • @DoctorBenjyFM
    @DoctorBenjyFM Před 3 lety +465

    I’m going to download this video and send it to all my friends and then once he’s received it we’ll both nod in acceptance that lower leagues are hard.

    • @mrdavekelly77
      @mrdavekelly77 Před 3 lety +42

      at 13:20 Dawid Cabbage is a striker for Brighton.

    • @henkdetank2881
      @henkdetank2881 Před 3 lety +3

      @@mrdavekelly77 Gold !

    • @ikekolo2595
      @ikekolo2595 Před 3 lety +6

      @@mrdavekelly77 he’s in the save it says your best striker and when he looks at the vanarama league you can see them in the middle of the table

    • @Eibarwoman
      @Eibarwoman Před 3 lety

      Even my efforts require more uh... thinking and I'd probably be welcoming the work permit scan if it existed in Mobile FM. I rely on scouring for national teams and the like.

  • @WorkTheSpace
    @WorkTheSpace Před 3 lety +791

    I have a friend who really wishes you had posted this a few months ago

  • @johnwpears
    @johnwpears Před 3 lety +181

    When you realise this problem isn't just in a FM, its actually quite depressing.

  • @KnoxBrawl
    @KnoxBrawl Před 3 lety +139

    i feel like this was directly aimed at ben 😂

  • @FootyManagerTV
    @FootyManagerTV Před 3 lety +195

    Lower leagues is where it’s at!

  • @joshuabrown4765
    @joshuabrown4765 Před 3 lety +58

    "You don't need me to sing to you about loans again."
    I will be the judge of that and yes, I absolutely do.

  • @frankiebogdan4228
    @frankiebogdan4228 Před 3 lety +84

    Tbf that’s very realistic, in real life vanarama national league is notoriously hard to get out of.

    • @Eibarwoman
      @Eibarwoman Před 3 lety +3

      I am more known for pushing out of there but FL1 or FL2 is a tough wall.

    • @1IS_Eric
      @1IS_Eric Před 2 lety +11

      Notts County is learning that the hard way

  • @mikedorn549
    @mikedorn549 Před 3 lety +27

    I have been playing since Championship Manager 2 and pretty much the only way I play is to play up from the lowest league. What you are saying is very true- FM 21 is far and away the most difficult of the versions to play your way up from the bottom- for specifically the reasons you lay out. The best tips I can offer (that you haven't already discussed) are A) to remember you can ask the Chairman (assuming you don't have a GM at this point) for player suggestions- they have found me quite a few gems that I wouldn't have had any knowledge of; B) Understand what the 3 or 4 most important attributes are for the positions in your tactics and look very hard for young players that hit those marks (in VN-South/North I tend to look for pace and acceleration since I play counterattacking); C) Even if bottom league work hard to build squad depth as much as you can within your budget, because injuries will happen and the depth can be crucial; and D) FInd the best Keeper you can - because you can't afford to give up soft goals - it is worth it to pay more for a solid keeper than most other positions and since you are likely to need him to steal some wins and draws. (sorry about the length).

  • @philswiftstop10countdowns24

    I feel like brexit work permits is really the killer this year, like the Barca B and Madrid B players who get let go and would demolish the national league can’t come anymore and it just becomes a ridiculous task and you accidentally build brexit FC

  • @maccarthneydanalungan971
    @maccarthneydanalungan971 Před 3 lety +124

    One of my first games in FM21 is as a no name, no rep manager managing Hungerford Town in the Vanarama South. Four seasons later, I'm still stuck there. I managed to finish 6th once and I lost in the playoffs.
    I have played CM and FM games for years and years and this is the first time I've ever failed to get promoted immediately from the bottom of the league. In a way, I think this is a good thing actually.

    • @bbclaus1716
      @bbclaus1716 Před 3 lety +7

      Vanarama is 80 percent luck. League 3 and 2 are fine. Championship as a promoted team is rough...

    • @CrawfordGrimaldi
      @CrawfordGrimaldi Před 3 lety +15

      Jay from the Inbetweeners would have had them in the champions league by now.

    • @bbclaus1716
      @bbclaus1716 Před 3 lety +5

      @@CrawfordGrimaldi And knee-deep in clunge.

    • @averagejoe2798
      @averagejoe2798 Před 2 lety

      Easy fix, sign loans

    • @mickmccarthy8219
      @mickmccarthy8219 Před 2 lety

      Started my 1st fm save in years with King's Lynn in the national league and got playoffs when I was predicted relegation, I got insanely lucky.

  • @michel8295
    @michel8295 Před 3 lety +36

    watching your videos from germany for quite some time now and it really helped getting into fm!!!!

  • @Stevencustons9
    @Stevencustons9 Před 3 lety +40

    DoctorBenjy FM likes this...

  • @benjohnson4670
    @benjohnson4670 Před 3 lety

    Some good tips, currently entering the 2nd season with FC Halifax in the National league. I'm going back to watch your scouting video for some extra help!

  • @yosefweiss8440
    @yosefweiss8440 Před 3 lety

    homie I feel you, I know the pain. All the hair, it connects stay strong stay proud!

  • @DayWalker745
    @DayWalker745 Před 3 lety +1

    Im new to fm. Playing as Dorking, promoted second season, now in national league and have been stuck there for a couple of seasons. I've now taken advantage of loans and changed some tactics because of your videos and now we are looking good, sitting in a play off spot, on a long unbeaten run and on a 5 game winning streak. Hopefully going to be promoted this season.

  • @jameshogan1738
    @jameshogan1738 Před 3 lety +37

    For my fellow DoctorBenjy fans. Today could be the day!

  • @marklundy17
    @marklundy17 Před 3 lety +1

    I am a veteran player of this game franchise, and I will definitely be using some of these tips, especially so on the "team report depth chart" .

  • @snuggstcg
    @snuggstcg Před 3 lety +7

    I always pick up all the players the big sides release on trials, two weeks.
    Then I sign up the ones that look decent, on like £50-250 a week deals, and a few succeed and a few don't, but you always improve that way in the lower leagues

  • @Welshdevilfish
    @Welshdevilfish Před 3 lety +4

    Taken me 13 years getting a tier 8 team to the championship in England. Why hasn't my attendance increased significantly? Wasn't selling out our 6500 seater stadium in league 1, board won't buy council ownership stadium or build new due to finances.

  • @fortuna1232
    @fortuna1232 Před 3 lety +17

    My current save is with Brechin City in Scotland, started in League 2 (4th tier) and financial I was fucked, but I have found that it takes 1 season to settle in the league and then you can sign players for promotion. Fun save tbh. The key to success is to have strikers or wingers with 14 plus acceleration, no matter the ability.

    • @richardprocter8012
      @richardprocter8012 Před 3 lety +3

      I started the same save about 2 week ago and got promoted in 1st season through the playoffs. Have a massive target man alongside bobby barr with direct an fast tempo, got Hogarth (gk) on loan from Rangers an was my best performer. Good luck #MonTheHedge

    • @fortuna1232
      @fortuna1232 Před 3 lety

      @@richardprocter8012 yeah it was my first save in Scotland and took time to adjust. Managed to sign Craig Moore for free in the second season and scored 25 plus goals in the league and got me promoted. Ian McShane got me 16 assists and 8 goals from central mid! 2 seasons later I've released them. Bobby Barr was wank for me.

  • @hanneswurstbrot6902
    @hanneswurstbrot6902 Před 3 lety +1

    i love the loan song! give us an intro with it like you did with the head bobbing witch i loved too :)

  • @inhighdefinition
    @inhighdefinition Před 3 lety +15

    11:47 Shoutout to all Filipino FM players yo!

  • @ShinySwalot
    @ShinySwalot Před 3 lety +31

    I'm still in FM20 that's how long it's taking me lol

    • @ShinySwalot
      @ShinySwalot Před 3 lety

      @Geo LS19 pfff that's tough

    • @bhelesean2028
      @bhelesean2028 Před 3 lety

      Are you using this seasons database

    • @bhelesean2028
      @bhelesean2028 Před 3 lety

      @Shiny Swalot. If so is the database giving you any complications

  • @cvetomirgeorgiev9106
    @cvetomirgeorgiev9106 Před 3 lety +4

    I've only played a bit in England. With Chester I've jumped from the Vanarama North to League Two with back to back promotions. Brexit has hurt me so much. I'm still doing well but I'm not nearly as motivated. Signing foreign talents was some of the most fun I've had in FM. I'm thinking about installing a no brexit mod at this point.

  • @liamgraham2478
    @liamgraham2478 Před 3 lety +6

    Hey Z, would love to see a video going over registration rules in a bunch of leagues and how to work around them

  • @wossa5910
    @wossa5910 Před 3 lety

    another fun way is to go to full released player list, add them all to a shortlist with no notifications (so you dont get spammed by them) then sort by rep and slowly offer everyone a trial (keep the good and immediately cancel the bad ones)

  • @Theshabadaman
    @Theshabadaman Před 3 lety +4

    Nothing more satisfying than a lower league save tbh

  • @craigseddon4884
    @craigseddon4884 Před 3 lety

    I'd personally recommend trying to source regens from non-league sides. Cardiff Met and Cefn Druids tend to get a few come through who are future Prem quality.
    The great part is they are levels below lower league in terms of reputation so players are interested in signing and because of where they are at you can get them for next to nothing, I paid £0 and £500 for two on my save, they are now both worth £40m.

  • @tombardsley3081
    @tombardsley3081 Před 3 lety +1

    My tips especially with league one/two / national league. Season 1, do as best as you can with what you have player wise and only strengthen positions are really weak. Generally, loans ideally low wage contributions, don’t be too loyal to players that are squad players that want ridiculous pay rises to extend their contracts and then signing freebies in following seasons from released premier league /championship sides.

  • @retrorami
    @retrorami Před 3 lety +1

    I did notice the board with the "pay attention" phrase right below the Colombian flag. I imagine it's a subtle message for people to look at what is happening there. As a south american, it's incredibly hard to see what's happening there (and frankly, in all south american countries as well). It's been a while since I last played FM (my last save was with Brentford in FM 2014). I mostly played CM, and the only FM game I played for a ridiculous amount of time was FM 09.
    It looks like the game changed a lot since then haha.

  • @loonyloser1733
    @loonyloser1733 Před 3 lety

    I got stuck in the 3rd tier of France on FM20 as a semi-pro side that had one of the smallest budgets in the league every season and a 1* club rep after promoting up from the 7th tier, so I definitely agree that that's a hard league to get out of.
    Then I picked up FM21 on sale on Steam and finished bottom of the Northern Irish 3rd tier in my 1st season when they fortunately didn't have relegation. I have a weekly wage of ~$250 p/w for my 2nd season and no coaches want to work for me either. Yes, I'm a glutton for pain when I play FM.

  • @marklundy17
    @marklundy17 Před 3 lety +1

    "I'm on a boat" buckled me😂

  • @hanshintermoser9008
    @hanshintermoser9008 Před 3 lety +1

    I am currently playing in the 7th Austrian tier with SC Eisenstadt, The club played in European Cups in the 80s and went extinct in 2008. They were refounded in 2018. Eisenstadt is also the Capital City of Burgenland, and Burgenland does not have a club in the first and second tier in Austrian football

  • @mykel_616
    @mykel_616 Před 3 lety +1

    Taken my hometown Sandhurst town from combined counties div. 1, (level 10) into the vanarama national. Hard.... But doable.

  • @zak3880
    @zak3880 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey. Currently managing York City. Got back to back promotions from van north to league 2. But now we are really struggling. Gonna take a look at your scouting vids

    • @vveee_
      @vveee_ Před 3 lety

      wish we were in league 2 irl lmaoo

    • @zak3880
      @zak3880 Před 3 lety

      @@vveee_ lol

  • @geasobd
    @geasobd Před 2 lety +1

    This is honestly the first FM “I’ve been playing since FM 17) where I played anywhere lower than Championship 😂😂

  • @xenon8342
    @xenon8342 Před 2 lety

    I feel like non leauges and top leauges are completely different beasts.
    I started FM in 2020, hardly touched it but picked up fm21 on the cheap, this is my first real game.
    I've recently been playing a journeyman save, but started at chippenham, got sacked for looking at a job in Scotland, then got hired by dumbarton for 2 halfs of a season, saving them from relegation once, but was sacked during a losing streak.
    But none of that matters, what matters is where I am now.
    I signed for eastbourne borough, given the expectation to "battle bravely against relegation" and through some serious fuckery won promotion to the VNL through a very lucky playoff.
    The board is delighted and offers me a new contract, but we're hemorrhaging money, so I tell them to make the team professional, reasoning the only way to escape debt hell is to get to L2, They do.
    Play the second season barely keeping my head above water against the much stronger VNL teams, finishing 14th in the table. But hey, we're in position to buil- oh. The board has decided we're spending too much, has sacked most of my staff, taken away our professional status. I suppose half a million quids worth of debt will do that to you.
    I resign from the club and start looking up. Fluke getting a job with oldham athletic in leauge 2 and I'm immediately out of my depth. They finished 21st in leauge 2, and now want me to achieve promotion, meanwhile I'm sat here having my best players taken for half a million each, the board overwriting my transfer refusal, and suddenly I have no idea where or how to spend this windfall.
    These things weren't a problem in the VNL, there's just so much more to worry about once you become a leauge side.

  • @chilldude97183
    @chilldude97183 Před 3 lety

    And I thought I did something wrong this year :D haha it is so hard to make money and Sign Players in Vanarama National League than ever bevor and now I know why! Thank Zealand! You unbelivable Football Manager Mind!

  • @dawwnbrk3r653
    @dawwnbrk3r653 Před 3 lety

    the struggle of taking over a team in lower leagues, getting promoted, and having absolutely not budget to compete at a higher level is so painful. I must've spent tens of hours just finding, scouting, and trialling free transfers/end of contracts as well as balancing my almost 0 budget in my 1860 Munchen save.

  • @fadajin
    @fadajin Před 3 lety +1

    I have come across an issue where foreign players who were trained at clubs in the UK but become free agents don't show as requiring a work permit post brexit but when you sign them it pops up they need one and you're going to be paying 20K to get one. I've not found a workaround yet. Sorting by work permit chance or work permit required will not exclude them.

  • @Lunch_at_Marcos
    @Lunch_at_Marcos Před 2 lety +1

    Have to say I’d enjoy a save where I just trundle along in a career and it’s not all about promotion after promotion and titles etc

  • @EspressoCatPlays
    @EspressoCatPlays Před 3 lety

    5 season in tier 8 with Shieffield FC, hopeful we get promoted this season, we are now 2th season 2033-2034 with 7 matches left. I actually love it is more difficult and challenging, I hate to see LLM-saves people getting promoted third season in raw

  •  Před 3 lety

    I had a save starting at Vanarama League South and arrived at Cahmpionship very easy. When I started saving I followed a friend's tip: "All teams are bad, you just always have to play offensively and pressuring the opponent's defense that they will concede several goals." I was champion for the 2 Vanaramas, with more than 100 goals scored in each season. Before I got to the fourth division, I started looking for players from the uper divisions youth teams, that they didn't want, at the end of the contract. That's how I got to England's second tier.

  • @thellamaqueen4270
    @thellamaqueen4270 Před rokem

    It was really difficult in FM2019 with Guiseley AFC too..

  • @alexwatkins1931
    @alexwatkins1931 Před 3 lety +1

    So we’re just gonna ignore the bars that he just put in the intro 🔥😂

  • @bricef8138
    @bricef8138 Před 3 lety +1

    It was the opposite for my friends in French lower league, rising to the top in a few seasons

  • @JustMyFish
    @JustMyFish Před rokem

    I am currently managing Worcester city in the midlands premiership. I have a transfer budget of zero. And a wage budget of £3100 per year. I have no staff other than one scout One assistant manager One fitness coach and one general coach they are all part time. I have seven players who are on zero wages but have small appearance fees. I came across a player called Mark Jeraldo this guy really improved my team he is like the Ashraf Akemi of the non-league world. He can play left back left wing back right back and right wing back. He does not need a work permit although he is Spanish but he also has English nationality. Born in England with Spanish parents. So if you’re managing in the lower leagues definitely have a look at this player you’re going to need at least £150 per week to pay him his wage he will be your highest earner and your most influential player. At the moment I’m at the risk of losing him because Club is in league two I’ve taken any interest he’s been at my club for two years and we have climbed two leagues in those two years.

  • @Creddiam
    @Creddiam Před 3 lety +8

    1:40 Zealand mentioned my post!

    • @Creddiam
      @Creddiam Před 3 lety +2

      Also what helped me is trialing all released players club-by-club in about two or three leagues above you. Most of them won't go to trial at your club, but some do and some of them are really good for the level of your club.

    • @tmaki6
      @tmaki6 Před 3 lety

      Congrats

    • @VASTSports
      @VASTSports Před 3 lety

      GREAT IDEA MATE

  • @prsamaral
    @prsamaral Před 3 lety

    i stayed 5 years at the VNL having lost twice and the final playoffs but finnaly won it, and the best advice i can give is to sign players from the U23s that are set to be released from major clubs. they are young, accept small contracts and their value go always up, i even sold some players for profit without making a single game on my squad.

  • @MrSedrox
    @MrSedrox Před 3 lety +3

    Just promoted from 4th league to 3liga in Germany, 3 years of strungling(3-5th places and 3 wins in a row in Berliner Cup) finally paid off FeelsGoodMan
    And yea, it was hard

    • @weaZler
      @weaZler Před 3 lety

      Wie kann man in der vierten Liga starten? :)

    • @MrSedrox
      @MrSedrox Před 3 lety +3

      @@weaZler its named "German Football League System" in steam workshop :)

    • @LoldemortII
      @LoldemortII Před 2 lety +1

      @@MrSedrox Will try that once

  • @bsm-nooky8466
    @bsm-nooky8466 Před 3 lety +3

    Hey Zealand, I try to find a Video on CZcams that explains how passiv income (Sponsoring f.e.) develops over time. So you might be able to help me out here. I took over 1860 Munich in the 3rd Bundesliga and got promoted right away. Obv my sponsoring income was the lowest of the Leauge. But still after 4 top 10 finishes in a row Im still last in Sponsoring Income only getting arround 2.4 Million a year while the average is more than double of that amount. Now I got Promoted to the Bundesliga and its even worse. Im projected to make 2.7 Million this year while the 2nd worst Team makes 9 Mio and the third worst already makes over 12 mio a year. (Not even looking at Bayern with over 200..) Is there any way to affect that at all or do I have to play 25 seasons in the Bundesliga to even get into the lower mid table of Sponsoring Income?

  • @Jayvees
    @Jayvees Před 3 lety

    Finally! A lower league video everyone is looking for. I used to play lots of lower league and yes it was difficult ahem! I mean not easy.

  • @bazdougall
    @bazdougall Před 3 lety

    First FM since 2007 ,got kidderminster promoted in the first season into the national league ,lost 10 games in a row in the 2nd season then jumped ship too Eastleigh fc, better team just had to save them from relegation

  • @doubleA_96
    @doubleA_96 Před 3 lety +1

    Cool video, but can you explain why I can manage back to back promotions with 0 money with no issue, but when I accept a job at a top division mid table club, I become a shambles of a manager? Source: My pain

  • @BlueWoWTaylan
    @BlueWoWTaylan Před 3 lety +1

    Did I see Dawid Cabbage 13:17 ?!

  • @GaganSingh-nx2yv
    @GaganSingh-nx2yv Před 3 lety +1

    Professional help for semi professional club.

  • @lordjordan555
    @lordjordan555 Před 3 lety +3

    Because I’ve always played lower leagues I find it so easy and then I struggle in the prem

  • @erpekito
    @erpekito Před 3 lety +3

    I still have to try England, but I'm now with Stade Lavallois, which started as semi-pro in the National French division (3rd div.) and went soaring through to first division winning National and League 2 first try with over 100 goals and ending 7th my first year in League One with wages around 10% the next worst team in the league. Even with the very worst players in the division, I could do very well tactically and now I'm beating Madrid, United, etc... in the Champions. French rules are also kind of restrictive, but I thought it was pretty easy

    • @adamskialders
      @adamskialders Před 2 lety

      I did pretty much exactly the same with Bourg en Bresse Perronais except for finishing 2nd in the National in my first year behind Stade Lavallois, but I found the yellow card suspension rules to be the worst thing. I get so many players banned.

  • @mattylamb9194
    @mattylamb9194 Před 3 lety

    Makes managing in English lower leagues somewhat akin to managing in USA, where they have always had restrictions on players you can bring in, money you can pay all your players, etc. I do think though that USA are a real rising force in world football, where in maybe 10 years time they will be one of the best football nations in the world. I believe they are working on youth player development, etc Probably led by the women's game in USA, which is of course incredibly strong. Americans get criticised by many, but as a general rule you have a very strong will to win, and love your country. That can really count for a lot. Add technical ability, (which I believe will increase considerably due to a lot of investment in this area, and it already isn;t as bad as many people think anyway), and you have potential world-beaters in the not too distant future.

  • @brunostraub3411
    @brunostraub3411 Před 3 lety +1

    I got to the Championship after 4 years with Slough... with kids... it ain't easy... but I'm great... LOL!
    I'm trying to use an affiliate to get the WP issue solved (English club, Bromley) but I'm not sure if it will work...

  • @chrisgboyle
    @chrisgboyle Před 3 lety

    I picked up Maidenhead after they were relegated and got a double promotion but I'm going to struggle to keep them league 2

  • @maxdelf8655
    @maxdelf8655 Před 3 lety

    I have just strated a save with Stockport County.

  • @liam8664
    @liam8664 Před 3 lety +8

    Barely avoiding getting relegated in my second season in the National League with my local Billericay Town, our finances are down the toilet, no one wants to sign, we’re still semi pro, my best player is about to lose his work permit, and the board are gunna bottle another take over. In short, things are going well

    • @fortuna1232
      @fortuna1232 Před 3 lety +3

      This might seem obvious but sign a striker and/or wingers with 14 plus acceleration, even if they aren't that good for your league, they are essential to winning games, even if they are an impact sub. Also having 1 midfielder with a decent work rate and a defender with decent acceleration (like 10/11 plus) helps.

    • @liam8664
      @liam8664 Před 3 lety +1

      @@fortuna1232 I’m trynna get faster players atm it’s a good idea, I’ve got a 6’4 15 pace/acceleration CB called Justen Kranthove who’s a beast, but he’s Dutch and idk how but after this season he’s no longer got a work permit, despite being in the country for like 5 years so I gotta find another

    • @fortuna1232
      @fortuna1232 Před 3 lety +1

      @@liam8664 obviously loans are the best places to look for pacey players, even if it breaks the budget it's worth it. In my Scottish save, Alloa went up scoring a fuck tonne of goals by having a striker on loan from Man City with 18 pace/acc for like 20K. He ran rings around my defense. I also signed a 16 yr old from a team in the same division for free. Had 16 acceleration but league below quality. Managed to score 12 goals in 15 apps and he started only 9 of those

  • @JMThought
    @JMThought Před 3 lety

    I’ve found a factor this year is my scouts keep bringing me 2.5/3 players when in the past they’d bring me better players.

  • @timlewis_fm266
    @timlewis_fm266 Před 3 lety

    My biggest tip is forget scouting at that level. Just take tons and tons of players on trial and in 2 weeks you will see who is good enough for the level.

  • @itchyshiels1999
    @itchyshiels1999 Před 3 lety +1

    I'm currently managing in Ireland and because it's a summer league we've had some really good luck with European qualification making the Champions League twice and for that reason my budget is far bigger than is needed for players who'll maintain our level but players who are would take us to the next level aren't interested because the league is still ranked 72nd in europe

    • @TheBlakerunescape
      @TheBlakerunescape Před 3 lety

      I had this problem in FM20. Would like 6 or 7 trophies a year and made ucl groups 3 times in a row but never got out of them. Best run was quarters in europa league

    • @itchyshiels1999
      @itchyshiels1999 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheBlakerunescape it's just a grind now to get the league where it needs to go to take the next step

  • @deciodasilva3960
    @deciodasilva3960 Před 3 lety

    It's definitely not easy, although I've climbed the ladder from Vanarama National League North to Sky Bet League 2 in 4 seasons with Gateshead FC. But currently having a tough time trying to stay up.

  • @jameswg13
    @jameswg13 Před 3 lety +11

    Me after back to back promotions in the Danish leagues, smashing the superliga etc hmmmm

    • @SCBROS4000
      @SCBROS4000 Před 3 lety +3

      Which team are you I’m doing an Akademisk Boldklub save

    • @jameswg13
      @jameswg13 Před 3 lety +1

      @@SCBROS4000 exactly what I'm doing

  • @webbo5790
    @webbo5790 Před 3 lety +2

    That and the games broken and doesn’t generate the players at the top level to trickle down with clubs hardly signing youth intake players

  • @DavidDavid-fd7qv
    @DavidDavid-fd7qv Před 3 lety

    Anyone else notice Dawid Cabbbage in Brighton's team report?

  • @shrey9414203740
    @shrey9414203740 Před 3 lety

    11:09 "But you don't need me to sing to you about loans again"
    Actually, I would very much like you to sing us about loans again

  • @jamiecalder9291
    @jamiecalder9291 Před 3 lety +2

    me seeing this video after i accidentally overwrote my slough save *pain* the last save i have now is like 6 months earlier than where i got to :/

    • @redgamer2163
      @redgamer2163 Před 3 lety

      That's why i save before and after every match.

  • @silenceisloud8418
    @silenceisloud8418 Před 3 lety

    Mazel tov to you aswell sir 🥸🧐

  • @michaelgraves6744
    @michaelgraves6744 Před 3 lety +1

    3 years with ibiza they haven’t give me a penny

  • @dominicbarstow1450
    @dominicbarstow1450 Před 3 lety

    I did one with guiseley and it was decently easy I guess not hard but challenging enough

  • @bruhmoment-wq5cy
    @bruhmoment-wq5cy Před 3 lety +5

    Get lollujo's help on low leagues.

  • @xazarl3381
    @xazarl3381 Před 3 lety

    I did Oxford City in van south to prem it wasn't that hard and I don't think I'm amazing at fm. You just have to look for free contract players who fit ur formation work permit only hurts you in like championship and premiership.

  • @tttremendousss9789
    @tttremendousss9789 Před 2 lety

    Trying to find your lower league scouting video, any help?

  • @Eibarwoman
    @Eibarwoman Před 3 lety +1

    This is how I pry Cape Verde players from Praia and the National team for 6K a season or two in after free transfers.

    • @adamskialders
      @adamskialders Před 2 lety

      I had a fantastic Cape Verde Wonderkid at Bourg en Bresse Perronais this year, poached him from AS Nancy aged 17. He was bloody brilliant right up until the last 6 months of his 3 year deal and wouldn’t sign a new deal so I sold him to Shanghai for 60 million quid. I will definitely second your recommendation for Cape Verde players.

  • @Minirover97
    @Minirover97 Před 3 lety +1

    Me who is using Dover in my second ever save:
    I’ll pretend I didn’t see this

  • @BaiDobchan
    @BaiDobchan Před 3 lety

    English lower league problems can be summarized easily:
    1. Low quality of free transfers as top teams rush to keep everything over 100 PA that has rougher than the average attributes.
    2. Being poached of all your 90+ PA youngsters every year for chunk change.
    3. Very few foreign players would actually play in Vanarama N/S or National and if they do, demand 10% or more of your total wage budget.
    4. The Board will not allow scouting outside UK & Ireland for a very long time. In my York FC to Prem save, I finally got allowed to scout Europe in the Championship.
    5. Established players that are (barely) decent for the league of ages 25 and up will demand at least 5% of your total wage budget.
    6. Starting the game, if you don't get 3-4 quick promotions to higher leagues to put yourself in a decent spot when the real crap hits the fan, the problem exacerbates so terribly, that you will find it even tougher cobbling up a decent team to finish in the top 6 to even have a promotion chance.
    7. Instead of being in a league that has a good support system (Germany for example), you are in a league that cannibalizes itself by forcing lower league teams to sell their high potential players (instead of building them up through lower league first team football exposure) and play with 5 loaned players each game to balance the sheets.
    That is the problem Benjy was facing all the time. I find English leagues to be the toughest place to play the game, and albeit the most rewarding, it is still an exercise in frustration. You can easily have way more fun with the game in other countries, which many players seem to prefer nowadays. A game like Football manager is a great teacher, but at the same time it is still a game, and people expect to have fun with it. Sadly, in FM 21, the English lower leagues are a poor source of enjoyment.

    • @Duskblade25
      @Duskblade25 Před 3 lety

      I don't own FM 21, but I have owned most of the FM games since FM 11. To me the lower English leagues tend to be a very slow burn because at some point you have to stabilise within a league before you can continue to climb for promotion. Vanarama National and Championship tend to be the most common. But it also sucks, if you get stuck in either of those places because the other teams tend to have big advantages. Like semi-pro vs pro teams or the wealth of relegated Premier League teams vs your broke ass.
      Its kinda why I personally moved into doing Swedish teams many years ago. Shorter league structure, less games, more time to scout, no work permits and get to have a good challenge, almost regardless of which team you pick. It's like a more relaxing version without a lot of the annoying hurdles.

  • @seancartwright87
    @seancartwright87 Před 3 lety

    I've got runcorn linnets to league 1 so far.

  • @yoades8743
    @yoades8743 Před 3 lety +5

    Dripp 💧

  • @CallMeSpoon
    @CallMeSpoon Před 3 lety +5

    Is the first 30 seconds just mocking Ben haha

  • @TheSunMoon
    @TheSunMoon Před 3 lety

    I was playing Stuttgart in FM20, BL2 is not so bad.. I manage to win in first season, with 5 games in hand😅

  • @noahisg4998
    @noahisg4998 Před 3 lety +2

    Sign released premier league teams youth players. They are really good with high potential and they almost always sign

  • @jonpaul3868
    @jonpaul3868 Před 3 lety +1

    Its not that hard for vanarama north/south to L1 in England. The second season, youll got plenty of 18- 23 y/o English talents from higher clubs. Now championship and premiership are another challange for non scumming game.

  • @Squeezy1738
    @Squeezy1738 Před 3 lety

    i’m currently doing a save on a team that got promoted to the top flight of Ukraine last season, and my transfer budget is so low that I might as well be managing in non league

    • @SimersFM
      @SimersFM Před 3 lety

      I am Olympik Donetsk, first season had a payroll budget of $34k per week.. but luckily for me Shakthar was the senior affiliate so I basically was Shakthar u21 team for the first year. Finished year 3, won the league and made round of 16 champions league. Now my payroll is $280k per week and the best team in Ukraine in 4th year..

  • @LoldemortII
    @LoldemortII Před 2 lety

    In my 3rd season with a German 3rd league team and money has gone down from 45k/week to 18/week.

    • @LoldemortII
      @LoldemortII Před 2 lety

      Oh and also management decided to build a new stadium for 9 Million

  • @maxpheby7287
    @maxpheby7287 Před 3 lety

    Im not sure the player A.I has made any advancements tbh Im sure most of us have players who want a new contract every 3 months or want to move to a bigger team even through their in the world biggest team already, to say nothing of the players who wont sign a new contract only to go to a lower team for half the wage they were on, so yeah /shrug.

  • @eXistenZ15
    @eXistenZ15 Před 3 lety

    gotta use loans
    there is a song in that

  • @flashgoyners8107
    @flashgoyners8107 Před 3 lety +3

    I thought as much, I’ve been trying to get Margate out of the VNL for 4 seasons, the fitness advantage pro teams have over semi pro seems bigger than ever.

    • @chrisgboyle
      @chrisgboyle Před 3 lety

      More teamwork than fitness in my experience

  • @philipstokes865
    @philipstokes865 Před 3 lety +2

    Can anyone here direct me to the video where Zealand does the head bop for 3 mins and Reece edits it

    • @ZealandonYT
      @ZealandonYT  Před 3 lety +1

      It's a tactic one, it's like tactic tips or something

    • @Mombot_z
      @Mombot_z Před 3 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/ZKNirOXXXyc/video.html

  • @javorgeorgiev6130
    @javorgeorgiev6130 Před 2 lety

    It hurts so much yet I can't stop trying. Somehow I got lower league Bulgarians to play tiki taka, avoid relegation and finish in the top end of the table. Science will never find an explanation. It should not work.

  • @francorisiborcoski4718

    PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME :
    I "accidentaly" create a b team in my save with a team in sud america that dont had it before( after one season game gave me the chance) , now this b team plays in a inferior division that is not in the game, how i can remove this team :( help, sorry for speak english as a neandertal

  • @deeznoots6241
    @deeznoots6241 Před 3 lety +1

    Idk whether FM19 is much different but i blitzed the vanarama nationals before getting stuck in league two

  • @londonad5289
    @londonad5289 Před 2 lety

    IM FROM SLOUGH. AT LEAST SOMEONE FAMOUS KNOWS US

  • @darrelldadams
    @darrelldadams Před 3 lety +2

    This is as it should be.
    Because there is no way in Hell that Metropolitan Police FC are going to make it to the Premier league,NOR will they win the Champions League.
    Sorry.
    And I bet any manager that went to a lower league team and replaced 75% the team with Free transfers and loaners would get sacked before playing a single game, irl.
    The balance between fun and realism is probably tough to get right.
    Hopefully ,it doesn't get too much harder, because I'm a gigantic cheater who is trying to cheat LESS as I learn the game( both FM and Real Life )

    • @vurogj
      @vurogj Před 3 lety

      It's probably impossible now, but Wimbledon did go from being a non-league team to winning the FA Cup (and only being denied European football by the ban on English teams in the mid to late 80's) in just 11 years.

  • @E6hosting
    @E6hosting Před 3 lety

    If you are struggling to find players in llm saves you should use the youth team. If everyone is garbage a 16yo with league 1 or championship potential will be a game changer by the time he is 17. Get the best youth coaches you can focus on personalities.
    If your team has no youth intake then enjoy the grind.

    • @E6hosting
      @E6hosting Před 3 lety

      Oh also make sure your team carries a goal threat of some variety.

  • @bettmo7494
    @bettmo7494 Před 2 lety

    Doing a journeyman and with my semi-pro experience wigan handed me an interview then a job. And fuck english lower league has way too many games. I had 4 games in a week and my squad has 2 people per positions…..