HOW TO RIG THE SEVERNE NCX FREE RACE SAIL ~ Windsurf race Performance, Power, Speed, Stability, Fun!
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- čas přidán 26. 08. 2024
- In this video I am giving you guys a complete guide on how to rig the Severne NCX Free Race sail for proper performance, speed and stability.
The NCX is one of Severne's most versatile sails that mimics a great portion of the full on race sails, like the Machs, using severe skin tension and a unique batten skeleton. It is the perfect sail for those who want to race, but who do not want to go over to the full-on racing sails and who prefer a camber-free sail. This is the sail that I used to learn how to race with, way back, before I went over to the mach range. In this video I am guiding you on how to fine-tune your NCX to get the most performance out of it, especially when using it for racing.
In this video, I am covering the following topics:
~ Who should use the NCX
~ How to rig the NCX
~ How much downhaul is needed
~ How much outhaul is needed
~ Should you use an adjustable outhaul on the NCX?
~ How to widen the wind range
~ Setting the batten tension to get the best racing performance, utilising the severe skin tension properties of the NCX
~ Which boards are ideal for the NCX
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After long deliberations, I decided to go for 6.0 and 7.0 GT Turbos. When we unrolled the sails we saw the heads of both sails were badly wrinkled. The dealer made a claim to Severne about these badly wrinkled sections, stated that wrinkles would not go away because they were in the head section where the sails are not stretched when rigged, and they had to be replaced under warranty. Severne's response was that this had been a usual thing for mylar sails, told us to live with it, and refused the exchange. This put me and the dealer in a difficult position because I paid the top dollar for the equipment. This has never happened to me before with Ezzy, Neil Pryde, Goya or North for the past 30 years. My windsurfing buddies had a sour taste with Severne also. So, from now on, I will only buy windsurfing equipment from a company that produces sails, boards etc NOT in China, and stands behind its products.
Great rigging video, I have just got my 7.5 NCX a few days ago and everything you pointed out here is gold. I have only sailed it once in marginal winds, cant wait to get out in some decent breeze to maximize its full potential. For my next size down I got a 6.0 Gator........
Very interesting and helpful.
Thank you so much! I'm glad I can help🤙
Now, I have 8.6 Mach 4, 7.0 Turbo, 6.0 Turbo and 5.5 ncx, and have been using them for a while, I can do some comparison. Mach 4 is a very powerful sail, and delivers instantaneous forward momentum in next to no wind conditions. I use it with Fox 140. The down side is the sail is a tad heavy, and you'd better not to allow any water inside the mast sleeve; otherwise, you will regret it :-)) It is also hard to uphaul if there is not enough wind to water start. 6.0 and 7.0 Turbos are my favorites. The wrinkles I reported here earlier slowly disappeared. I initially was mad because the company didn't want to do anything even though the dealer had inform them about the problem. Compared to two-cam sails out there (Ezzy Lion, NP V8 etc), these sails rotate extremely easy during transition. They are light, fast, they have a nice draft, and hold their shape. What else do you expect from a sail? Just do go into heavy chop as they are powerful sails and pull you like a locomotive. As much as I love Turbos, I cannot say too many positive things about the ncx. When they are powered up, they are fast. But, to get the sail to be powered up is a challenge. It really doesn't respond to pumping. The draft changes all over the place when they are powered up; so it is hard to control. I tried to rig the sail according to the specs it didn't work too well. Then, I tried to rig it with all sorts of downhaul and outhaul (both pos and neg directions) combos. Nada! Luckily, my dealer, seeing my frustration with the sail, has decided to exchange it with a 5.5 Turbo next year. I am sorry to say all these about the sail, but it just didn't work for me; perhaps larger sizes are better. The other 3 Severne sails are magnificent though. I highly recommend them :-))
Karo you are amazing. I love ❤️ your advice and kind dedication to helping us with your professionalism awesome 😎 tips Cheers Simon xxx
😊🤙Ah thanks so much for your amazing message and great feedback Simon! It's a huge pleasure to be able to help where I can with my experiences and my videos. I'm so pleased to hear that you love my content!! 🚀
Another very good video, thank you so much!
Thanks so much! I’m glad you enjoyed it! 🤟
Hi Karo. I recently purchased a NCX 7.5 (2021) and rigged it to the settings on the sail. I have been sailing cammed sails for years so was looking forward to trying out a no cam light weight performance sail. The sail looked great on the beach, I tensioned the battens to get shape as per your video, nice loose leach, but when I got out on the water it was near impossible to get the battens to rotate around the mast when I gybed. It was like the old school race sails when you had to give the sail a kick to get the cams to rotate. And it needed a bloody good kick. Some times I ended up sailing with the batons on the windward side of the sail. I came back to the beach and released the tension in the battens and added outhaul following which the sail was wrinkled along the battens, lost power and would still not rotate. I am using a Severne SDM mast. Any idea what might be going on here? Cheers
Hi Dean!!
Glad you got the NCX, it’s a wonderful free ride sail. Three very important things:
The mast must be a Severne mast to take on the correct bending curve of the sail for rotation.
It must preferably be an apex Severne SDM mast.
Very important to pull enough downhaul. The battens must be less than half the diameter of the mast over the mast after pulling the downhaul.
Outhaul must be loose to the point where the sail bags until about one cm from the boom.
Let me know if this helps to rotate the sail better on the water.
I had similar issues and made a video of how I solved it, have a look if you like. czcams.com/video/H1ap2ghGyUg/video.html
Seeing the nowadays rigging videos, I am sooooo happy that I changed over to Kitesurfing. Instead of tuning my gear for an hour and then moving all to the beach, I am already on the water, having fun. Sorry guys, I started Windsurfing 1979 and was infected until 2018... Kitesurfing is nicer:-)
Hi Karo
Thank you so much for your helpful videos.
I ride wave sails currently, a 4.7 blade and a 5.5 gator.
I want to switch to 2 new NCX sails to go with my new 105 fox that I will recieve shortly.
I've been told that I should calculate + 1sqm from my wave sails to get the correlating freerace size.
So I understand that I need to get a 5.5 NCX (4.7+1sqm) and a 6.5 NCX (5.5+1sqm)
I'd love to know your opinion on this matter.
Thanks alot🙂
Amit
Hi Amit,
Thank you so much for your positive words, I'm so glad that my videos are helpful. Yes, the combinations you have chosen are absolutely perfect. 👌 You are going to love the 105 fox paired with the two NCX Sails... Very potent and very versatile combinations for a wide range of wind.
Enjoy it!! 😎🤙
@@KarovanTonder Thanks🙂
Very great tutorial I like it. I have a 8.0 NCX and it’s a really great sail. How would you rig it in light wind conditions? Still pull the downhaul full down?
Thanks so much for your nice feedback! I am very happy that the video is helpful. Yes definitely release a slight bit of the downhaul in underpowered conditions. Also the release the outhaul slightly. 🤙
@@KarovanTonder thank you for that! Have a nice day
Hi Karo, I thought NCX would not be a proper choice in bigger sizes, so opted to buy two Severne GT Turbos. When I rolled the sails, both had wrinkles in the mylar at the head section, possibly due to improper packaging. Do you happen to know a method to remove the wrinkles???
They look ugly because that part of the sail is not stretched out after rigging. I left the same message in your other post with racing sails. Happy holidays :-))
Very nice and helpful video, thanks Karo! I want ask you a question, what is the better boom to use with an NCX 7.5? An ALU boom, or Ergal boom or is better use this sail with a full carbon boom?
Hi Riccardo, I am so happy to hear that my video is helpful, thank you! 🤙 For the bigger sizes, like the 7.5, the best way to go is Carbon, because it is stiffer, stronger and lighter. Let me know if you have any more questions..
@@KarovanTonder Thank You for your advice! Now I starting to search for a carbon boom! Maybe I'll can ask you another help for choose which one from the offers that i'll found! And, certally, I'll have many question about the fins but before I need to study your 2 video where you talk about it!
@@riccardodegan9111 I'm so happy to help! Feel free to ask me anytime you need advice. 🤙🤙
Hi! I have a sail NCX 7.0 2021. It 's not good to crackle . The sail is new. I adjusted the armor to remove the folds. Twist up to the 4th armor. Is this how it should be? Or should it snap easily?
Thank you for the guide! I have a 6.5 ncx and tuned it like you suggested. Tightening the lower battens really makes a huge difference in the sail profile. I feel the sail becomes very stable and powerful this way.
Do you know can this batten tensioning be applied to Severne Gator sails also? Or is it specific to how the ncx is built? I recently bought a 7.5 Gator for light winds.
Thank you!
Thanks so much for the great feedback! I am happy to hear that my video helped with the NCX. Definitely also apply greater batter tension to the gators as these sails become so much more powerful and responsive with the deepening of the profile through the batten tension. Especially for the bigger sizes. 🤙
@@KarovanTonder Thank you, amazing that pro windsurfers like you take the time to answer us ordinary fellows 🙏
I will try it on the 7.5 Gator when I get a mast for it. Some trouble getting it, but should arrive in the end of the month.
Hi dear thanks for your ws insights, truly inspiring, I actuallly have both, fox 120 and ncx 7.5, however I have rigged the sail with an amex rdm 100, since unyfiber mast selector says that the severne sdm sails have a rather constant curve bent (in stead of their usual slightly hard top bend curve), and since this sail should be rigged with a sdm mast, would you say my rig is all in all properly rigged?
I know, quite a tech question but you seem pretty knowledgeable...cheerse
Dear Jay, thank you so much for your comment. I'm glad to hear you are finding my videos helpful! The NCX 7. 5 and Fox 120 is an awesome combination! Generally, I would rig Sails from size 7 upwards always with an SDM mast, to prevent it from becoming too "floppy" . Even though the website says up to the 7.5 you can rig with either SDM or RDM mast, I would definitely rather use an SDM with the 7.5 NCX.
thanks for you prompt reply, I know it would be better an sdm mast, but I came from freeride blasting and i am so much not used to sdm that it would be much too uncomfortable for me to use it, indeed i did rig once the ncx with an sdm blue mast but it felt awkward basically, anyway, I just hope the bend curve it's not compromised using my chosen mast (amex rdm), thanks again and, yes, fox and ncx are made for each other ,p
It's a great pleasure. Always glad to help🤙 its best to use what you feel most comfortable with. Severne designs their Sails around the masts, so it's always recommended that you use a Severne mast with the NCX. However, if you feel comfortable with your current RDM, that's all good👍 I think the best would be to see if you can borrow a Severne SDM mast and test it, compare it with your Amex RDM to feel what is most comfortable.
Yeah I actually did (used sdm severne blue mast)) and altho the sail was more powerful, I felt however "uncomfortable" per say, but it's all good, I probably will try with a severne rdm mast, see the differences (if any) and take it from there, thanks again Karo and keep up the good work, peace
Its a great pleasure.. Yes, I think that it would be great if you try the Severne RDM mast, because you are guaranteed that it would match the profile and characteristics of the sail. I also love a more softer feel, especially in my 6.2, mach I use an RDM mast, where most heavier guys would use an SDM for a more powerful feel. So it's down to personal preference.. For your free ride background, it may be better then to have that soft feel in the sail.
Hope you get good winds! 🤙🤙
Karo, I've only recently discovered your channel and there are some really helpful videos on here - thanks. Why do you partially downhaul the NCX before putting the boom on, like you would with a Cam sail? I mainly use Gators and always fully downhaul before putting the boom on, as it always seems easier once some mast bend has been applied. Thanks.
Hi Rob, thank you for your comment! I'm so glad to hear that my videos are helpful.. 🤙
What you are doing is 100% correct, the only reason why I partially downhauled the sail in the video is just purely out of habit with my race sails😄... The ncx rigs like gators and wave Sails in that you can totally downhaul before putting on the boom. 👌
@@KarovanTonder Thanks Karo. I was out yesterday (in sunny but cold Northern Ireland!) and tried your boom height set-up. That put my boom about 2 arrows on the Gator higher than usual, which felt really weird. I have previously used the tip of boom under arm height (when not on the UJ), which doesn't seem too bad. Struggling though to get harness line length right...
@@bobbinabout1317 do you use a seat or waist harness? If you use a seat harness, you may want to have the boom slightly lower than my height, because the waist harness hook is higher than the seat hook. What length harness lines are you using currently?
@@KarovanTonder I'm using a waist harness and 24 inch (variable) lines.
@@bobbinabout1317 if you make your harness lines slightly longer to 26 or 28, you will find a very good balance between the boom height and body position and angle from the sail using my boom height measurement tip🤙 Give it a try and let me know how it feels... You will have a lot more control with the slightly longer harness lines.
I have a 5 year old severne NCX 8m.... should i be adding 2cm to the extension to compensate for stretch???? thanks love your videos
Hi Patrick, glad you hear you love my videos! Yes definitely pull that extra downhaul to compensate for the stretch. Especially after 5 years of use, the outhaul and downhaul setting should be adapted to compensate. 🤙
Hi Karo, I was about to buy a quiver of NCX. When I looked at a 6.5 already rigged with a RDM blue mast at the store, I noticed that the two battens around the boom area were sticking into the mast sleeve. Anyways, we took out the sail, and I found out it was a little difficult to rotate on the ground. Problem sort of disappeared when we downhauled the sail more, but then the top became too loose. I was also able to see the folds at the mast sleeve, again around the boom area, as if the mast was behaving like a stiff mast. Did it happen to you at all? What do you suggest? Take care.
This is completely normal, once you are on the water with the wind pressing into the sail, the profile will deepen and make a slight belly for a little more power. It will also rotate easily once on the water with wind power in the sail. Make sure the battens are set tightly as described in the video, this also helps to shape the profile.
@@KarovanTonder Thank you, Karo. Up until which batten from the top should we see looseness on the leech? The other thing is that we really powered up the sail on land, hoping the folds on the mast sleeve would disappear but they didn't. I am afraid the laminar air flow will be disturbed by these folds (they form vertically, in parallel with the mast sleeve), and create turbulence (like the airplane wing), depowering the sail. Thanks for your answers. Your vids are great!
@@KarovanTonder One other thing, Karo: we used rdm on the 6.5 not sdm like you have in the video. Maybe the vertical folds on the mast sleeve are because of the rdm mast??
@@windsurfer3329 Our experience proved that 6.5 and bigger do better on SDM. You need little more stiffness for bigger sail surface. Rotation is never a problem with NCX. The profile sets petfectly whey on the water.
Downhaul sail untill those middle 2 batten ends are sticking halfway over mast diameter . That’s more or less the right amount of downhall. Increase for stronger conditions
Enough batten tension is important!!!!
@@KarovanTonder Great! That was what I was looking for. Thanks a bunch, Karo.
Hi, thank you very much for this great review. I have super troubles rigging this setup. Is it normal that when downhauling according to specs the battens are 3 to 5cm reaching over the mast? Also I am unable to get rid of rinkles in the sail....
Its a great pleasure! I am very happy that I can help. Yes, that is totally normal for the battens to overlap the mast slightly when you are not sailing.. Once you get on the water the sail will set into shape, fill the belly and the battens will be in place. With regards to the wrinkles, which mast and boom are you using? Is it Severne? If it is, make sure you tighten the batten tension as described in the video. Make the bottom ones supper tight and looser to the top. the wrinkles should disappear. Double check the extension setting, it could also be that you don't have enough downhaul on the sail.Let me know if you managed to fix the wrinkles...🤙🤙
I had similar issues and made a video of how I solved it, have a look if you like. czcams.com/video/H1ap2ghGyUg/video.html