Accelerating The EV Uptake in Australia with Behyad Jafari | The Fully Charged Podcast
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- As we kick off a brand new year of podcasts, this week Robert speaks with Behyad Jafari, CEO of the Electric Vehicle Council in Australia.
As you may know our first Everything Electric live event of 2024 kicks off in Australia at the Sydney Olympic Park on February 9th, 10th & 11th, and in the lead up to this event we’re showcasing all the electrifying things happening ‘Down Under’!
Working with all stakeholders across the sector, from OEMs to Banks, big Retail, Government and of course consumers, the EVC of Australia is a leading force in pushing change forward in a country that has huge opportunities for an electrified future.
This podcast is a fascinating insight into some of the challenges and triumphs Behyad and his team have faced in their mission to accelerate the uptake of EVs in Australia
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Thank you Tony Abbot (our previous tory PM) for the climate wars and the removal of the Aussie auto industry. Our greatest Luddite, He said "coal is good for humanity" thank god he is now history My solar panels heat my water and charge my car and my stove. Went to Fully Charged in Sydney in 2023 look forward to the new show..I live In Melbourne AUSTRALIA
don't forget Scomo was the one who brought coal to parliament
Abbott? Try this: it started with John Howard as PM. My how short our memories are
It seems like the tories think following in his path would help them win elections, and it won't
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You've already forgotten Turnbull and Morrison? 😅 I wish I knew which minister it was that I heard on the radio in Parliament say "we have an obligation to dig up every last speck of coal". No, we don't. Abbott was responsible for a lot of kicking the can down the road, and Morrison stabbed Turnbull in the back when Turnbull tried to restore some semblance of sanity to the future of electricity in Australia. Personally I wish I could buy a Sakura EV as a second car to act as a battery for my house. Unfortunately you can't buy one outside Japan, and the maker of my solar inverter isn't quite up to speed with V2H. 😢
Go, Australia ! Vote out bad politicians so you can continue your wonderful progress. The US needs to accelerate its EV programs too. Happy 2024 !
This country is so corrupt with its career politicians.
Hooray, an Aussie show! I’m so so happy 😊
Iranian Aussie , I’m proud of him, I’m Iranian too , well done 👏🏻
Loved how solution oriented this was, and sympathetic to those who need encouragement, and educating.
Thank you Rob and Behyad! 👏
Great show 👍
Looking forward to attending the Sydney show and seeing how much it has grown from last year. Coming from Perth 😊
also in Perth, it crossed my mind to go. but not.
It's good to see the announcements after this recording of the fuel and emissions standards finally being introduced
Don’t hold your Breath, Im in the Labor Party and Quizzed Bowen at a meeting, he is umming and arming and stalling. I think the lobbyists are chewing his heels . We need to put pressure on local MPs
When I came here in 95 i told people that they dont drive any further than the UK average, they were SO offended, and categorically did not believe me.
Most vehicles are parked 23hrs every day.
😊😊
Great guest, great pod-cast. Thanks guys 😉
I love it when the naysayers say: "But you can't drive your EV on the Tanami Track."
I ask them, "How often do you drive the Tanami Track? Weekly, Daily?"
What is that?
@@michaelsmithers4900
You could Google it, couldn't you?
Or, another response is "who cares"?
I wonder what percentage of the Australian population has driven it?
Don't the majority FIFO?
People always forget second hand cars in these arguments. You buy your shiny new EV for regular trips, and buy a cheap old ICE car for whatever your niche purpose is -- maybe a twenty year old Hilux, etc. Keep the Tesla clean and put the sheep poo in the Hilux.
@@johnknight9150 the vast majority of trips for the vast majority of the population are well under 100km. Most families have two cars. Do the majority of trips with an EV, and have a hybrid for the longer trips. Not ideal. but it would be a big improvement.
Interesting interview guys. It confirms my views from here in New Zealand of what I saw when last in Australia (Melbourne & Adelaide) 5 years ago; every second house seemed to have solar and I struggled to see any EVs. This is the polar opposite of NZ at that time as our adoption was really starting to ramp up but PV then, and now, is the exception for most.
We have 2 EVs (Leaf & Polestar2) which are charged at our home exclusively from our solar and the synergy between those two technologies is truly a marriage made in heaven. The tech that I see as being a game changer in this environment is V2G. It is the reason we opted to not include static batteries in our installation and also why we took the opportunity to update our Leaf late last year before our luddite incoming government scrapped the refund being paid on EV purchases.
I can't help but wonder whether this added utilisation for EVs could be a driver for increased EV uptake in Australia due to the prevalence of domestic solar. Perhaps with a market the size of Autralia demanding bidirectional EVSEs it may lead to them also becoming available on our side of the ditch.
Best wishes for a successful Fully Charged Live and do look after our Gavin, and hopefully somebody can find him a support potato 😉
Thanks so much you guys from down in OZ
Please bring the fully charged show to Perth, Western Australia this state desperately needs to catch up with the rest of the world
Thank you Robert and Behyad for this most interesting conversation.
Awesome show the Highlander. Yes, kindness is always free.😊
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The thing about petrol cars is that i can't dig a hole in my back yard and make petrol, store petrol and, use petrol. And then do it again tomorrow. But I can with electricity.
So I've voted with my money.
MG5 (petrol only in Aus - why?) 25k.
Other brand saloons EV 50k (has V2L)
2nd hand 3 no V2L 40k.
Now if I get my solar provider to add a AC generator plug I'll be less concerned about future fuel rises.
I have been enjoyed, so thank you for delivering.
Cheers guys great show
Grid protection is critical.
Unloading the existing national grid is critical.
20million buildings and vehicles in Australia.
20million rooftop, 6.6kW is 660Gwh daily, more than fossil fueled max generation.
Add 20million EVs big 100Kwh batteries then 2,000gWh of dispatchable electricity daily.
Most vehicles are parked 23hrs every day.
Just like the home robotic vacuum cleaner and robotic lawnmower, the EV selfplug-in feature can trade electricity with the grid for money and profit by providing protective stability and balancing supply.
The old economic saying,
"It's the grid costs stupid."
Father was born in Australia, and it's a place I'd like to visit again one day.
Very VERY interesting perspective i have not heard before. Still waiting for the release of the new KONA, so managed to find a S/H series 2, so pleased and saved almost 25k AUD.
EV growth in Australia.
Five years ago I had hardly seen ANY EVs apart from one or two Teslas and the mock-EV Toyota Prius.
When in NZ in 2016 I had actually seen my first Nissan Leaf.
In 2022 I saw the first Hyundai Ioniq 5 at a highway roadhouse charger.
Last September I bought my Hyundai Ioniq 6 (still I have only seen ONE other on the roads; it is my 'unicorn').
Yesterday while waiting for my wife on a roadside for 15 minutes, I saw two Teslas, and one Polestar in about 5 minutes.
Morning and happy new days
Exciting times❤
I love all this stuff. I would like to see more content about EV conversion of classic cars.
Australia needs a fuel quality emission standards,( like Euro6D) when this occurs EV take up will be astronomical.
Suggestion: Robert, for any of your productions ( including podcasts that will be shown on CZcams) ask your guests to look at the camera. It makes for a more personalized viewer experience.
my x-trail is 20 years old and still going strong!
The 2nd hand EV market has a miscalculation. Valuers using traditional fossil fuel calculations does not apply to EVs, as EVs have no engine nor 1000's of moving parts to wear out and die. Until the 2nd hand EV market corrects itself, there's some highly undervalued sales available.
Aotearoa voted in pretty much what Australians kicked out of government. So we're going backwards. Ev rebates cut, water pollution standards walked back, fossil exploration coming back. Kiwis voted for pure evil because Kiwi men shat themselves when a women suggested we be kind to one another.
I hear you brother/sister - we were envious of you for such a long time as we kept on voting in conservative tossers. Christ can you remember our PM was downing Pina coladas in Hawaii while Australia burned? It wasn't that long ago. Keep up the fight and the tide will eventually turn.
its what happens when you dont bring the people with you. ie poor leadership
10:30 spotting the houses without solar in Australia is literally just a game of "spot the rented house".
Australia is currently having a housing affordability crisis, and it's underlined the lack of rights/protections for renters. I wouldn't know where to start, in how a renter would be able to install solar onto a rented property (simply to save on household power & charge an EV).
More "renters rights" will result in fewer rental properties as investors move their funds to less troublesome assets.
You start by asking the owner to install solar. I am speaking from experience
You tell the owner that you aren’t renting his property because it doesn’t have solar and he needs to get it to appeal to renters
In Australia....solar panels + an EV or two + home storage battery = a funner, cleaner, cheaper life. We now have all three, after choosing to invest during COVID. Savings....car (petrol/servicing) = $7000/year....home power $3000/year = $10K per year. Our Model 3 is the best, safest, most enjoyable car we've ever owned, solar powered! We've had no loss of power, ever, because of our Tesla PowerWall. Zero issues to date with any of this tech, every day is better knowing that we're doing our bit for the environment AND saving money doing it 😃
Interesting show, well done. Do wonder "electric cars make so much sense for Australia" City dwellers yes, but rural is a bit harder due to distance. I travelled for month by car couple decades ago and I think there will need to massive investment in upgrading the network.
agreed, but we need to start now. ;) cities are wont need much. interconnects hubs spotted down the eastern seaboard would be nice right about now.
I own an EV in Australia, and have driven it for over 38,000 km and 15 months. Over 40 years owning and driving ICE vehicles.
I've done several very long distance drives (over 2,000 miles in return) and had no problems. Recharging infrastructure is in a rapid expansion phase.
Most of the time I charge from home on Solar.
There is currently a couple from Perth, who are driving clockwise around Australia in a Model 3, towing a Pop-up Caravan. The caravan is fitted with Solar Panels, and batteries, and they are 10 days into their trip, and they have already reached Townsville (over, 4,100 miles)
On ABC News Australia in the last week was a interview with a Western Australia farmer with a ev and solar, he's encouraging all farmers to do the same. Also infrastructure has to match demand you can't just guess where to put the next lot of charging infrastructure.
The outback infrastructure will be easy, there's like two roads. ABC also showed outback charging infrastructure running on 100% solar no because there's no high voltage lines.
Oh that farmer is in The Driven magazine not ABC.
😁🥰Robert, good day from Lismore, NSW.🌏
This is the work history of Ian Cleland (birthday: 10-1953) from 1971 to the present 7 Jan2024:
1. 1970 - Living in East Lindfield NSW 2070 when I was aware of lousy air pollution where I was living. I contacted the NSW government about the problem. They would not hear from me. So, I sent a letter. When I did not reply right away, that was the beginning of my journey.
2. 1972- I became active in the environment group. When reporting pollution throughout Greater Sydney, I used to be given reports from across Sydney from The NSW Environment Protection Authority (EPA) about the worst air pollution. I had someone from the EPA provide them to me.
3. 1972 - I started studying for a Civil Engineering Certificate at Sydney TAFE and later became the University of Technology Sydney.
4. 1975 - I employed a draftsman, H. H. Robertson, at the Revesby, New South Wales 2212 factory.
5. 1976 - I went on contract draftsman work on several projects, varying from the railway and concrete bridges to multilevel up to 50 levels.
6. I was responsible for sewerage and water treatment plants in Canberra, ACT, and Caines, Queensland. I worked on six up and down the East Coast of Australia. I worked on the 150mm to 600mm diameter pipework and concrete tank. For several years (1998)
7. When I asked Project Manager Doug Hatley of Montgomery Hassa to go to Singapore to manage engineers and architects, 10 to 160. I worked on a 12,000mm twin TBM and five stations, two of which could hold 80,000 people and withstand a direct hit by a bunking buster or an indirect hit by a nuclear weapon. I was there from 1999 to 2005.
8. My last project: The first development in Australia, when Lismore council approves, combines 250 passive homes and 57.7MW Tesla Megapack Batteries Farm and the PV in total 161,502m2 - Tractile tiles 45,000m2 and - Tesla PV panel 116,502 m2.
The Team and I would like to submit a Developments Application to a council on North Coast NSW at the end of May 2023. I am seeing Lismore Council on 26th Oct 2023:
• 250 prefabricated SIPform passive house-certified homes. On the roofs of buildings, there are Tractile. The excess electricity will be stored in the 57.7MW Tesla Megapack Batteries Farm.
• The PV in total 161,502m2 - Tractile tiles 45,000m2 and - Tesla PV panel 116,502m2. The Team and I will add another 233,000 m2 of *Arctrech Solar Tracking by 2030-enough electricity for all Lismore residents and businesses. Everyone will have 3 PHASE like the Tesla Powerwall Battery. We will charge a potential wholesale AS$0.10 per kW.
• Bi-Charging of BEVs two per house and 12 Tesla Super Charger stations in the shopping centre.
• Micro-grid that connects to a community of 4800 residents. By 2030, we will provide all electricity to 41,500 residents of Lismore.
• Landscaping the whole site, ensuring enough clearance for the surrounding bush and buildings.
• We will be trailing the SoMax HTC process.
• We will have a project at the end of 2024 to install a long-range wireless power transfer. Emrod Tele-Energy Technology.
Some of the Teams and companies include:
• SIPform
• Tractile
• Direct Building Solution
• NB Consulting Engineers
• Green Product Certification
• Xlam
• Weathertex
• Cupolex
• Arctech Solar Tracking
• Tesla EV - PV - Powerwall - Tesla Megapack Batteries
9. 👉 My GOAL for 2024. 👈
The TEAM and I would like two CYBERTRUCK and the TEAM to go around AUSTRALIA, and I would swim in every 25m and 50m pools along the way. Distance: I will swim 3,000 m. in each pool.
i) We will use one as a price for the raffle AUSTRALIAN. When ready, we will sell tickets at the end of March. We have registered with the Queensland Office of Liquor and Gaming Regulation Charitable and Non-Profit Gaming Rule 2010.
ii) I leave on Sept 2024. I will have organised the TEAM by the end of April 2024.
iii) The TEAM and I will raise a minimum of AU$1,500,000. I had a stroke in July 2019. For those who have helped me:
iv) 🤞My wife, Kate & Sons - who saved me on 4th Jule 2019
v) 🤞Nurses and Doctors
vi) 🤞Base Hospital and Ballina Rehabilitation Hospital
vii) 🤞All my friends and people have helped me. Lismore Council - GSAC Baths
viii) ⌛ April 13th & 14th, 2024 ⏳ - We are having a field day - Bi-directional Charging - Battery Electric Vehicles & Renewable Energy, Lismore Workers Sports Club.
Cheers,
Ian Cleland
SUCH Developments
Sustainable Urban Community Homes
here on Holiday here in ROBE SA, and have seen an EV almost every day (not the same one) whereas this time last year i only saw a couple of Tesla's in 8 weeks...
Next time try Batemans Bay if you want to see electric cars
@@theairstig9164 but I have a holiday house here!!!!!😂😂😂😂
It was only in 2023 that it became mandatory (unless justification not to could otherwise be proven) for replacement gov. fleet cars to be EVs in Oz. So it may still be some time before there are many second hand EVs becoming available from fleets for us.
My use requirements are 50km per weekday round trip - so about 300km a week, charge at home on weekend solar is the idea.
Looking at a Kona EV, BYD Dolphin or ATTO3, used Tesla maybe or the MG4 but a bit hard for the dogs.
Holidays, hmmm, just did 13,000km over our 6 week holiday - Towing a 1,600kg teardrop van. It will be a while before we can update the diesel ute.
and about ticket sales, I live in Melbourne, if I can get to Sydney I will but only by being on holidays already, so will not purchase in advance.
a friend of mine just bought a Model 3, it worked out only $10 more a fortnight than a Toyota Camry, he loves it
I’m not quite sure the consumers have all changed view on electric. I think that’s still a few years away. Many average households can afford a new petrol car but can’t afford the electric equivalent (or won’t pay the premium).
This is most obvious in classes like large SUVs where you can get a 7 seater Toyota Kluger petrol for $57k and only really a very expensive alternative in a similar sized car electric car - like a Kia EV9 at $100k… don’t get me wrong the KIA is a lovely thing but most families won’t be up to dropping $100k on the family run around.
An interesting comment @ 35:42: "It's time to buy a new car and of course I'm buying electric."
Hopefully this is a worldwide phenomenon.
I've noticed here in the Netherlands that sceptics have transitioned from "EVs are rubbish and the batteries won't last 5 minutes" to "I'll buy an EV once they've got a 500 km range" to "There aren't (and never will be) enough rapid chargers" to now saying "I'n not yet ready to trade in my ICE car yet".
At the moment there are 10 times more petrol pumps than rapid chargers but only one in ten cars here are EVs, so that seems reasonable.
It's expected that 20% of all cars here will be EVs by the end of this year (2024) so let's hope that the infrastructure keeps pace, to avoid FUD increasing again among potential EV buyers .
Yes we know we are a little back water !
We are MG4 owner. So happy. Poor Ranger now sits there gathering dust in the hope it might go on a trip. If rental cars were allowed to tow then we would hire when needed.
Adding comment about “unclear” energy to see if it gets deleted
Choice of EVs has improved a lot in the last 2 years, but not at the rate of what’s available in Europe. Aus needs more models to choose from.
What I don't understand with ICE fuel efficiency standards, do the car manufacture's have two engine production lines. One for the high end country standards and one for Australia. I would have thought you put the same parts, engines in all car being manufactured???
"Heart breaking shame".., yep.
Sorry guys. Australia is around the middle of the top ten natural gas exporters in the world. Wrt oil, Geoscience Australia says that Australia imported about 85% of it's oil in 2021. The largest reserves are in the northwest, and they're mostly tied to export agreements without a proportion reserved for local consumption.
Im starting to see the Tesla Model 3 refresh on the roads now, which will be a massive shot in the arm for electric vehicle adoption here
Some timestamps would be highly appreciated.
Batteries are free with EVs.
Hahaha Hahaha
A lot of sense talked here.
No-one mentions the luxury vehicle tax that is on top of the sales tax, registration etc. $30k extra in my case.
I'm going to keep going on every social media platform I can preaching. Kindness is still free until it becomes a realithe Highlander.😊
Australia has huge shale oil deposits around the Akaringa basin but the pollies don't want that widely known, hey?
Nice but its n longer 'down under', its 'The Great Southern Land' if you please :)
He knows his stuff, hey?
Some of the manufacturers need to stop price gouging here like FCA with the 500e price on that is ridiculous compared to UK and US. Also unfortunately the price of used EVs is still high here the cheap ones around $10k have about 50-70km effective range left and replacement battery packs for them are like $16-20k. Unfortunately aftermarket options although offer better range are still as cost prohibitive. Would be nice if our used car market was more aligned with UK prices. Hybrid is really the best option here if you are still on a budget I have crunched the numbers and can't beat the Prius we currently run unfortunately.
When will the business buyers notice that a Electric car will be fine for 6 years and not 3 hence there will be less S/H cars coming out of fleets ?
Valid argument....
As a former company vehicle driver, there's an element of both "fleet rotation" due to maintenance cost, "sell before the MOT", and an expectation of a new vehicle by the employee... "I'm paying the "benefit" in kind tax, so why not a new vehicle?"
If they introduced a sliding scale on the benefit tax, reducing to zero after...... 4-5 years? You'd see a lot of employees changing from "I deserve a new vehicle" to "it's a tool to do the job... I'll take the saving" (it's a con anyway)
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If a company can reduce costs, they won't care.
@@rogerstarkey5390 they could be hanging on as the Road Tax thing kicks in soon too and not many BEVs are under £40k. Note Tesla dropped M3 pricing to just below the magic £40k !
I know Tesla doesn’t do advertising, but it’s more than highly annoying that they don’t go to these shows in some sort of official capacity.
It's obvious that the Liberal Party did NOT act in Australia's national interest.
Looked a straight forward job I just bought on with 25k on the clock so so looks like I might have 100k of motoring in front of me
oh companies are saying get on with it and yet will fund opposition to it.
@28.11 When you say government to should get on with it. They have an entire country to run and other things to do that are more important. Like changes to Industrial relations to give workers more power, more protection, and more weight in Government Agency decisions. The Government isn't only responsible for Climate, its responsible for a mertic fuck ton that all require complex policy and engagement from the community. We also have a media environment that is hostile to informing the Public so we get a government leaving the world in CLiamte policies vited out for being both not good enough and implementing a carbon tax (it wasn't a tax).
The overwhelming need now is affordable home and small businesses-scale storage batteries! A $10,000 US, 50 kWh battery will end petroleum and coal.
With almost all coal used to generate electricity, you would think all the coal companies would be pushing for EV's. I guess the coal companies have a lot less influence than the oil companies.
VW delaying EV volume production after lobbying against Euro 7 pollution rules
The Electric Viking
All the cars were Chinese?! Bobby, you've forgotten the gorgeous, wonderful, smart, Dutch-made Carice! They're not Chinese at all.
I would rather keep my petrol car than buy a communist Chinese electric one.
Xiaomi's first EV, the SU7, has 800 km range and better ADAS than Tesla
The Electric Viking
Allegedly...
Why is Canada so far behind the rest of the World for EV adoption ?
Not sure if all Australia has signed up. Self interest is a huge starter here. Building a new house to be self sufficient with solar...and transitioning to an electric vehicle. Its as if i was declaring conversion to Scientology. Locals are still aspiring to own huge american vehicles to tow tin boxes full of tat around the country in ever decreasing circles. The vans are then parked on the street or council nature strip for 51 weeks per year. Its becoming a bit of an issue when fishing boat and brace of jet skis are added. Not sure what the answer is. I think its a psychological thing where locals are hugely aspirational with a strong need to overtly display perceived wealth. Pity most of its on finance.
On thing to blame is FBT. If small biz owners could buy non-commerical vehicles and _not_ be hit with FBT, I think *less* yank tanks would be on the roads. The gov't should make BEVs exempt from FBT, as well as LCT and stamp duty.
Following the previous comment.... Go UK... get rid of the Tories and really start the green transition.
Hey groovers, please dont think that just because your getting more popular Ozzies'l be more inclined to book ahead... If anything i'd just up the number of tickets on the gate. lots of us are hardened fly by the seat of ya pants folk.
Climate destabilisation from CO2 proliferation from fossil fuels is the world's biggest danger.
Nuclear electricity is clean, but it will break the transmission grid if it tries to replace fossil fuels.
5 times more electricity is needed fast.
The grid is lightweight and fragile because of its cost.
And so, its prime value is in lighting the streets and buildings for a few hours.
In the daylight hours during the summer, the AC load can break the grid.
Nuclear promoters will tell you that grid transmission costs are why nuclear electricity must be at the existing electricity generation plant.
Nuclear promoters will tell you that grid transmission costs for distant renewables as they reach into the existing transmission grid are why renewables are so expensive.
Nuclear promoters stop talking about the limits of nuclear electricity supply after they have filled the grids with nuclear electricity.
Nuclear can not make all the extra electricity we all need without extra transmission grid capacity.
They talk world CO2 danger, but don't talk new grid cost danger.
The old economic saying,
"It's the grid costs stupid."
I say that the grid is so valuable and expensive, and it must be protected.
Making nuclear electricity is just a 'sexy' topic and a waste of time.
Remember, stopping CO2 is the point. Partial stopping is cheating.
If you want to blow our energy bills out of the planet sure go with your nutty plan. All we need to do is get grid connections sorted in Australia and everything will be fine. Your Nuclear experiment will need these grid connections. So yes it is the grid costs stupid.
@@jasonrhl
I think nuclear is economically stupid, do you agree ??
@@stephenbrickwood1602econocally bloody ridiculous. 40-50 billion dollars AU to build with no incentive for anyone to assist the government and it will be lumped on us to pay for. We will then need someone to get the fuel from which will more that likely be Russia. Then once it is built you will need the transmission lines we need to build to connect the grid correctly. Doubt if the Chinese power line owners will want to pay for that.
@@jasonrhl
You're confusing me.
I know the following,
Nuclear is stupid economically.
5 times more electricity means TIMES more grid capacity. Insane economically.
@@stephenbrickwood1602how will you transport the power? I guess it can use wifi. We may aswell stay in the current path and allow the market to keep building. Once grid interconnects then renewables will grow faster and be completed before, long before you get the first power station build. They not lego. Even after it’s built not guaranteed to start.
I think after some time you will understand. Plenty of good CZcams videos from people like engineering with Rosie to help.
Why remain a slave to the Saudi Sheiks?
Good comment - climate change and clean cities another bonus.
I think you’ll find it’s well funded middle men who are our true masters. You are listening to one now. Check out the credentials of Behyad Jafari and see for your self who pays his way
Why become a slave to communist China?
Quite so.
Why not buy British oil and gas?
We're going back to the North Sea to prop up our fossil fuel industry and compensate for that rascal Putin.
Bound to be plenty left over.
Why become a slave to the communist Chinese?
I stopped defending electric vehicles as there are some people you will never convince that electric vehicles are the future and I fully believe now people need to come to this conclusion in their own time.
I absolutely love my BYD Atto 3 extended range. The negative comments that I commonly see is your Ev wont save the plant, which is true, my primary objective in purchasing an Ev was to save money by not having to fork our for petrol and the price set by the oil companies.
There is a saying it takes a village to implement change and I believe eventually we will see an Ev transition which will improve the impact of climate change, but its going to take a good 15 to 20 years, maybe less if Ev adoption happens faster.
I'm in a fortunate position of being able to upgrade my home solar system, including a BYD LFP home battery, heat pump hotwater system, and blackout protection.
Yes, going on today's prices, it will take 8 years to recoup this outlay, but after that, it's pure profit. My house and Ev charging come from 100 per cent renewable energy, taking no electricity from the grid and ditching my natural gas connection as well so my entire house runs on electricity only.
Its a great feeling being the master of your own energy requirements and no longer being reliant on the fossil fuel industry and the prices they charge consumers.
Owning an electric car doesn’t need to be defended. You just need to care less about what other people think
@theairstig9164 well I do now, like I said people need to come to their own conclusions if a EV is a good fit for them, some wont and will happily pay what the oli companes charge for a litre of petrol no matter how high that becomes in the future.
My comments have been removed.
They were just my thoughts as I spent an hour agreeing with you.
Was it my comments on nuclear electricity and nuclear promoters ???
Please reinstate, they are genuine and truthful.
Could have been someone else who objected to your comments.
Nothing wrong with nuclear and one day we might even see nuclear fusion plant.
Who can say for certain?
@@t1n4444
I honestly don't know what was objectionable.
Maybe too much.
I broke it down into baby sized comments.
Everybody gets confused about nuclear electricity matter.
My point is the amount of future electricity if it is central generation.
The grid is extremely expensive and so built to the minimum.
Like many things, it is not overbuilt.
The grid breaks in the middle of the day when just AC is turned on in too many homes and buildings.
75% of grid load is buildings and so better buildings are needed.
There are 3 things.
The generation
The grid
The customers
THE GRID IS THE WEAKEST PART economically.
Because it is extremely expensive and extremely huge.
Just patching parts of the Australian grid exploded home electricity bills.
Politically, the government nearly lost an election.
The dispersed generation and storage must have a grid available. The existing national grid.
Nuclear electricity is strategically an economic disaster for an economic no fossil fueled future.
I have a career in the power industry.
When the economy crashed, I climbed 830 new towers in a new transmission construction project.
Project management
Hard dollar tendering
Coal fired steam turbine electricity generators, new greenfield site
Gas fired jet turbine electricity generators, new greenfield site.
Nothing wrong with nuclear electricity generation except for the grid problem.
The old economic saying
"It's the grid costs stupid. "
Hahaha 👍 Hahaha Hahaha
The issues with Unclear (😉) are:
1) That it's already too expensive to build compared to alternatives which are getting cheaper by the day.
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2) That the energy produced is more expensive for the consumer.
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3) That the lead time from proposal, through consultation (Including NIMBY) , then design, planning, construction... Is ... Horrendous in comparison to alternatives which are not only much faster to *complete* but can be ramped over that time, essentially averaging 40-50% full capacity over the construction period.
(Example... 100 turbines. Build connections. Install *1* turbine, [20% of construction time to this point?] connect it... Over the next 99, you average 50 working units... )
That's actually important. Why?
Because it's a huge reduction in "other" generation on the grid during the project.
"Unclear" is Binary.
You plan/ build for 10 years (optimistic).
During that time you get zero output.
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When the project completes, you get "100%".
But for those "10"(?) years, you're using... Fossil fuels.
That's a legacy carbon footprint that the Unclear plant can never recover.
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(imo)
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As per your comments are meaningless.
As before why don't you write to those "research and developers" in nuclear power generation, fission or fusion, and point out where they're going wrong.
I expect they will be absolutely fascinated to read your views and then thank you for saving billions more by your timely advice.
Speaking of which how did you get on explaining to BMW that hydrogen fuels cells weren't going to work, in Europe or indeed S.Africa?
I'm quite surprised you haven't told us of your Nobel Prize for Science, as in your work in debunking technical theories.
What is the drag coefficient of his nose?
Electric cars do make sense, but the charging network is way under done.
Where (which country) exactly?
You need data before installation.
You need to link and concentrate on areas of greatest use, if for no other reason to make the business model viable and keep use cost reasonable.
Tesla led (leads) because...
1) They *had* to build the network for the vehicles to "work" as a system.
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2) They planned for the future of ALL vehicles on a unified network (probably globally, but didn't account for.... "Politics")
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We've seen (are seeing) the results of other attempts.
Either /or too late to compete, unreliable (due to cost cutting??) expensive possibly due to not building in house?
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It parallels the vehicle market where "they" had the opportunity to take on "small Tesla" with what would have been with benefit of hindsight "Small" investment.
Now? They must take on "Huge Tesla" requiring "huge" investment (which they can't provide) and competing with an established ecosystem of Superchargers often providing "half price" charging.
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If only they had listened?
Australia is approximately 31 times bigger than England.
With about 33% the population concentrated in how much area?
- Solar power in Australia is slowly bankrupting the energy companies, and those who are unable to take advantage of solar power - for cost savings with daytime AC and other large loads.
- Solar energy in our houses is the single biggest GHG reducing measure we have been able to afford as a country. EVs are nice for multi car families - there is still a need - for many - to have the ability to load up the diesel ute or wagon and head bush for a week (Everybody needs a holiday some times, many Aussies prefer a rustic getaway rather than jetting to Bali) ... Cost saving, running an electric car really only works out positively for those who would buy an expensive car anyhow, AND have access to charging while parked at home - especially true if they can access time of use off-peak pricing or "free" solar power (IF someone is saving $3k per annum on fuel - $57 per week (ie. 440km in a 1.6L small - $21-27k - car) , that is an offset to put towards an EV - it frees up 30k per decade for a "breakeven" - EVs as whitegoods, (for low end models ) there is no realistic secondhand market - buy for the long term or keep the petrol junker).
(Personally I hate the (calendar - quarterly billing) quarters when I actually have to PAY anything for electricity - and I live in a completely electric house - with solar PV and solar hot water with an off-peak electric booster. reverse cycle heating and cooling is the norm in Australia - we are all converts to the heat-pump craze in Aussie country.)
Full science education in democratic bio-logical re-evolution survival methodology. (?)
Australian example of economics for no fossil fueled future.
600gWh daily if you are lucky maximum supply.
From fossil fueled generation.
600,000,000kwh
÷ 20million buildings
= 30kwh daily avg max supply
= 6.6kw rooftop solar PV
+ 10kwh battery is perfect
Fortunately EVs have 100kwh battery.
And it is free with the vehicle.
20million vehicles in Australia.
Hahaha happy days.
Nuclear promoters are like horse meat when the Ford model T production line started.
Nuclear electricity solution is dead without the humongously expensive increase in grid capacity.
All concentrated electric generation promoters remind me of the child who said
" I will pay for it, you give me the money. "
And the old economic saying
" It's the grid costs stupid. "
it's wise not to expect much progress from a cultural backwater
So Robert, you say the next transport minister intends to bring ' the ban' back to 2030, however, what else would he say in order to help his party get voted in?
And then, why would he be any more resistant than previous ministers to the persuasions of massive bribes to keep, or even further delay, the 2035 deadline??
Please reframe from being a ‘you knower’ as Glen y is out the window and is not easy listening (far too many indeed!
I will collect a BYD Seal next week, the Queensland Government will give me a $6000 rebate, this is to encourage people to transition to EV’s.
I have been considering making the switch from my old hybrid car to a proper EV. I dismissed the fear mongers regarding fires and I know that at home and at work I can charge so range anxiety is not an issue. But now suddenly we are reading and hearing that insurers are refusing to cover EVs or charging a fortune and hire companies are returning to ICE. This is seriously putting me off making the switch and it genuinely saddens me. But what is the truth here? Is this more fake anti EV news or have the EV deniers finally got their teeth into a genuine EV flaw story?
Xpeng
What a crying shame that the previous Australian political party held up the green revolution. Hopefully they will push on from here!
BYD
Note before you buy an electric car ev ; its an expensive huge nightmare costly bill to repair tesla car when it becomes faulty and out of warranty and Tesla now strictly avoids honouring their warranty by making excuses that the customer caused the faults or damage, tesla car huge repair bills wiping out huge chunks of telsa car owners salary and almost bankrupting tesla car owners and drowning them into more debts. also the battery degrades every year then the tesla car become useless causing big inconvenience in journey range
Tesla car Not worth it’s value anymore
Car dealers and traders, after a sales transaction with customers they all laugh behind the backs of their customers after they walk out the showroom with a car because the tesla sales people took a big chunk out of the customers wallet
At some point you have to stop and ask: "Just what is it that EV's are supposed to be saving us from?" There is one question that is never addressed that would expose the "climate crisis" for the scam that it is, which is "What percentage of the atmosphere is CO2?" The answer, never given in plain language, is that CO2 is currently around 420 parts per million, (google it) increased, they tell us, from 280 ppm in 1850. That's a difference of 140 ppm, or in terms more readily understood by the layman, the composition of the atmosphere has changed by 0.014% (14 thousandths of 1%) in the last 170 years. LESS THAN 1 THOUSANDTH OF 1% PER DECADE! How much closer to "zero" do they think it's possible to get? How gullible do you have to be to believe that this rate of change is causing extreme weather events, which have always happened and always will? Their claim is that this tiny amount "traps heat". ALL gasses dissipate heat and even if CO2 is an exception, the suggestion that a total of 0.042% can overwhelm the capacity of the remaining 99.958% to dissipate that heat is abject nonsense. CO2 DOES NOT control the global temperature, there is no "climate crisis". Wind farms, solar panels, heat pumps, EV's.. None of these measures are necessary, nor will they have the slightest effect on the weather. Eye-watering sums of money have already been wasted on this futile exercise. Time to wake up, stop throwing our money at these boondoggles and squandering the world's resources on projects that cannot possibly succeed as there never was a problem to begin with. There is no need to save the planet from a minuscule increase in the gas on which all life depends, but it does need to be rescued from idiot politicians and media mouthpieces that push this garbage.
Problem with secondhand EV's are:
After 4 years they are still more expansive than a 4 year old ICE car. That 4 year old ICE car can still do 700km range.
Where the 4 year old EV with 150.000km on the ODO can do up to 15% less range than the original 300km (realistic 250km range).
That battery has already degraded a lot and many times is out of warranty. Replacing that battery is a lot worse than just repairing a piston.
We have to be realistic. EV's still have a long way to go before they can replace the transportation for people that cant afford a +€35k car.
Though 2024 will see the first sub €25k EV's with a usable 300km range. the Citroën ë-C3, with an LFP battery that should have a lot longer life expectancy than NMC batteries..
A little ray of hope?
I've been shopping around for a used EV here in Denmark during the last month or so and prices have dropped so much recently it's now possible to get a sub 100k km 4 y/o Zoe 41kWh(311km range official, 200-250km realistically) for ~€10-12K Eur.
Such a car would comfortably meet the needs of about 80% of the people i know(including myself).
I'm confident once other countries reach same levels of EV adoption, they'll experience a similar trend.
Have Australians realized that if you put a light over a solar panel it works in the dark, and only consumes the amount of energy from one light bulb, While the inverter makes enough electricity to amplification to run multiple Wall plugs?
yes because the sun never comes up under the flat earth. There are a lot of us fighting stupid and I think stupid is winning. One state has basically gone 90% renewables and it still is not enough to show people it works
I don't believe that.
If you believe that, I've got a harbour bridge in Sydney to sell you. Only used on Sundays.
no mate, ......
I think that was funny, I think@@danielstapler4315
Electric cars are still too expensive in Australia. There shouldn't be any taxes on electric cars. Australian governments see car owners as cash-cows.