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- Join presenters Robert and Dan for this episode of the Fully Charged Show Podcast as they give you a sneak peek into what's in store at Everything Electric NORTH in Harrogate, as well as delving into the energy transition and powering a new industrial revolution in the north of England, the US's sky-high tariffs on Chinese EVs, the dangers of the Hydrogen and CCS lobby, the potential of offshore wind, and the exciting world of home energy security with V2H technology. Enjoy! @fullychargedshow @EverythingElectricShow
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It good to meet you yesterday Robert. I should have said welcome to Harrogate... where we live 🙂 Looks like another nice day again today (Saturday). We really enjoyed the show. Already quoting from the EV myths booklet!
I remember well, back in 2010, the hysterical hullabaloo about how terrible a line of larger pylons was going to be here in Scotland to facilitate more green energy. Some were likening it to the end of days, or at the very least the end of our tourism industry.
It happened, and I expect the vast majority of Scots have completely forgotten about it, assuming they even noticed it in the first place. Our tourism industry is going from strength to strength.
The hysteria continues with smaller ongoing local pylon projects, with, I’m confident, the same outcomes.
The Scots still have to look at these ugly things.
Yes, there’s a whole bunch of protests and opposition to two new 400kv lines running down from Aberdeenshire down to Angus and beyond. A local MSP is involved in the opposition, complaining about new wind turbines and making the point that some wind generation is being curtailed due to lack of transmission capacity. The usual remarks about the “desecration of our countryside” are abundant.
That MSP hasn’t quite joined up the dots. The difference between opposition and support almost always comes down to money.
That curtailed generation for instance could be kept on if northern areas got favourable electricity rates, stimulating consumption closer to the sources of generation avoiding strain on the transmission system in the middle of the country. That’s what we need - dynamic regional electricity pricing! Once you get that, people will associate wind turbines with cheap electricity, and the opposition goes away! Once a particular region is known for cheaper rates, that also encourages more inward investment by businesses creating more employment. Thus even more support. Then you literally get a “northern powerhouse”.
@@anthonydyer3939 Indeed. Successive UK governments have encouraged the overcentralisation of the UK economy around London and the SE. Their commitment to any kind of decentralising drive must be questioned.
@@anthonydyer3939 The transmission lines towers are substantially higher than those already installed. These existing lines are not pretty, to say the least! Nor are they that reliable. If you think it is so great then I invite you to live under them. The locals do not wish to.
Nobody disputes the fact that wind energy is abundant in Scotland. Scotland already powers part of England and on the whole does not have a problem with wind turbines.
Wind turbine curtailment is a wasted opportunity, currently. However, if you had local "batteries" of whichever technology, then a huge amount of strain is removed from the grid.
The real problem is that the Grid has been operated as a scam extracting surcharges across Scotland in particular for adding power. There is no equivalent charge on oil and gas for example.
@@thefastandthedead1769I used to live within 100 metres or so of a 330kV line on the outskirts of Sydney, Australia. It crossed our property and I could stand at the base of a tower on our property and feel the electric field induced in steel fencing running below it. 100 metres away at my home, the 3 phase fields were completely cancelled and I could feel nothing when I brushed my fingers along the same fencing wire. I had no concerns at all.
In fact, I felt much safer than people who lived on the opposite side of a small valley we backed onto, as that ridge would be continually struck by lightning during thunderstorms! Despite us being at roughly the same height, there were NEVER any strikes near us, because the earth line towered about 30 or 40 metres ABOVE our house! It not only protected the line, it also protected our house from the danger of a lightning strike. I had previously lived near the top of a ridge in a similar area, but with no transmission line nearby and was constantly fearful of a strike, as there was no protection at all, except for a nearby electrified railway line that was maybe 10 metres higher and it regularly was struck during storms. Again, the ridge about 200 metres away would also regularly be struck and I figured it was just a matter of time before we copped one too!
Thank goodness for nearby HV lines!
Robert and Dan talking is much more informative than talking to some professor's, please make more like this .
Feeling a bit tired of experts, eh?
Michael Gove has a job for you, if you're interested.
@@klaxoncow Not at all it's enjoyable and they cover more subjects ive watched every one since he started this pod cast
Thanks for bringing the Live shows to Australia! we need as much encouragement and enlightenment as we can over here.
All we need now is Fully Charged Brisbane, Melbourne, Hobart, Adelaide, Perth, and Darwin.😁
@@martythemartian99 QLD for sure, if Labor can defeat the media QLD will be a renewable power house
A Diesel bus in London caught fire the other day, and one of the first comments on the BBC site was "Was it electric?" in spite of the text saying it wasn't. Several replies put this lady right, but even so, the media has obviously done its work. Dr Goebbels would be proud.
the reference should be to churchhill the lier ? but are you both communists? or just 1 of you ?
Yes how silly people are to believe the BS Bistro put on by Clown Climate Deniers! Per Capita Hybrids burn more than Petrol Vehicles which burn way more than EVs! EVs are the Future! In Atlanta today I drove past yet another half burned up gas car on I-20! I drove past a burning gas car right behind the Fire Engines on I-85! EVs are the Future!
Friend kept sending me references to EVs catching fire - till I pointed out he had batteries for solar in his house 😱 snd laptops, phones ….
I see approx 1-3 burning gassers / yr. , never an EV, only burning EVs make the news
Chamberlain would say gas cars are good, they've promised me there's no climate change
Can I make a suggestion. The live shows sound great but are a little bit preaching to the converted. It's also great lobbying MP's. Can I suggest expanding to university and schools work to showcase the opportunities in green technology, influence and inform the future generation and by proxy their families (never underestimate the nagging effect!) to green technologies.
We attended the London South (Docklands) show and drove a few cars. On the back of that show we have ordered our Volvo ex30 twin motor. Great show and concept. Planning on visiting the Harrogate show too.
That's one of the things I don't get. Wind turbines aren't ugly cooling towers. I'd be happy to have huge numbers off my coastline and to a good chunk on land as well
I live in Nova Scotia, Canada. The first thing you see when you drive from the rest of the country is a wind farm. I think it is inspiring. This is especially true since the low lying land bridge connecting the province is in danger from climate change impacts. It show positive things can happen.
Consider Boston, Massachusetts in New England for a U.S. show. No shows yet on the east coast!
We're not coming back to Boston until they promise to serve us a nice cup of tea!
@@klaxoncowrightly so.
Interestingly tea always gets mentioned about American independence but a more thorough analysis shows the tax on glass was much more influential in American disquiet.
But it was funny.
I do worry that Robert's quotes from the media misinformation are going to get clipped and used for nepharious purposes!
Great chat chaps, thoroughly enjoyed it.👍
Looking forward to more excerpts from Harrogate’s events.
13:30, Norway actually has very little pumped storage. Not a lot of point building a pumped system when the vast majority of your electricity comes from hydro, just turn off the excess hydro. When Norway takes our excess wind generation it isn't used to pump water up a mountain, it is consumed and they avoid having to use water that's already in a high reservoir; overall it's a more efficient use of energy.
I think the only "pushback" I would say about having the shows being not North-North is that for those of us looking to actually meet installers, these shows may not have installers from our area.
Can we get a show in Munich, home of BMW? It would serve southern Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Italy.
Yes! That would be great!
Create a superabundance (Seba) of energy for everyone and what follows is a manufacturing build up with the attendant jobs. When companies and investors see a clear future of cheap energy, it is an easy decision for them to check out the labor market and then decide to build. Pretty straight forward rather than going through the arguments of who wins and who loses.
The issue with China is that having only one supplier of cheep EVs and EV batteries creates an unhealthy dependency on that one supplier.
Count how many EV manufacturers there are in China!
Thanks for a great discussion.
But please put a headset mic on Dan - when he turns his head his voice fades nearly to nothing.
I noticed this too, but thought it didn't look like it was because Dan was turning his head. Maybe a mic issue? Robert does have the mic closer.
Dan’s microphone is ‘clipping’ because it’s pointing down and not towards the source of his voice.
Condenser microphones can be rather fussy and have a narrow field for sound detection.
Every time his voice is outside or on the fringe, the microphone reduces the input level.
Whoever was doing the production should have spotted this and corrected it but I’m guessing either there was no live monitoring or nobody noticed.
🤷🏻
That happened a but at the show in Harrogate yesterday.
It would be great if you could do a show in eastern North America in Canada or the US. Vancouver is too far and requires flying which I'm trying to avoid. There are lots of very supportive jurisdictions where we could use the help to keep the momentum going and your shows would be a great help.
I'm looking forward to the @EverythingElectricShow at Harrogate This weekend, sun always shines in Yorkshire
I think you forgot the most important "D"... Deflation of energy cost! A battery system and EV can save serious cash and provides access to really cheap electric energy tariffs.
It'd hopefully also mean inflation would be near 0 again too which is great for mortgages too
Been to the Sydney Show 2023 and 2024, #ElectrifyEverything #StopBurningStuff Will be at the 2025 Sydney Show. Keep up the excellent work.
Something odd about the audio this time- otherwise great chat. Thank you Robert and Dan
What's wrong with the sound? Sounds like it's bouncing off an auto-level. Horrid.
Phew, glad it's just not me having in issues with sound, i thought it was just my system playing
Dan's mic is not facing him and sounds like it has an noise gate on it that keeps muting the sound a bit when he goes off mic
I don't know why podcasters insist on using hideous big microphones that often hide their faces. Why can't they just wear the same unobtrusive lapel mics used in proper TV studios. They are often not as expensive as these great big contraptions sitting on desks.
@@peebeen
Quite so.
Was in musical theatre for years and el cheapo electret kit works perfectly ... and was kid proof.
Clip on "anywhere", sound check, job done.
@@peebeen they sound fuller and have more dynamic range. Whatever is happening with Dan's mic dipping is post-prod error. You would never see a lav mic in a radio station because quite simply, they are better. Especially the SM7B Dan is using. Also, they are not hiding their faces! Stop moaning
A used chevy bolt is around 13 to 15 k $ . I know it's not new , but what a hell of a car
Boosted my positive energy for Monday morning.
You've really become Chinese Communist Party Show I used to enjoy your contribution to the mission I'm starting to get annoyed by how you describe everything Chinese as amazing and the rest as deplorable
Since they love China soo much they should visit the factories where Uhygur muslims forced labour is used to make Solar Panels. Or visit a Congolese mine where child labour is used to exrract by hand.??
Nope. The ionic 5N was at the Sydney 2024 for test drive. It was a hoot!
Fantastic episode and looking forward to 3 days at Harrogate!
Beyond NIMBYs we have BANANAs: Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anything.
(c/o Helen Lewis, Page94 pod ep 105)
Great discussion but agree Dans sound was poor need to move mic closer. Keep up the great work
It was the angle.
He kept leaning back in his chair.
@@davehollowell2104 I don't think that's the issue. Look at 17' 28" "Then of course there is..." he didn't lean any further back but I couldn't hear what he said next. Pity as it was distracting from great content.
On the hospital carpark, please challenge who authorise the banning of EV.
It was the local fire brigade. The hospital didn’t have a suitable sprinkler system. It was a temporary measure whilst the system was upgraded.
Problem is that the FIRE brigade do not have any way of putting out a traction lithium ion battery chemical fire. Water, foam and fire blankets are not effective. The fire brigade just have to allow the electric car chemical fire to burn itself out. The other point to mention is that these car parks are semi enclosed so the chemical smoke clouds which are extremely toxic far more than petrol or diesel car fires must vent out in all ways in stairways and other levels in the multi-storey car park.
Perhaps the building's insurers declined to take the risk given EV batteries can and do self ignite.
Extinguishing lithium based fires is not simple as we are reminded by the Fire Services across the planet.
And of course there's always the risk of toxic gases entering the hospital.
Then there's always the risk of a lithium fire spreading to other vehicles too.
A risk assessment would have been required hence the ban on battery EVs beneath the hospital.
Hope that lifts the scales from your eyes.
Next time you feel the need to exercise your free speech suggest you make an effort to do the research done by others and discover the rationale behind such decisions.
It's not difficult or hard.
The majority of carparks will be fire risks due to EVs. The authorities are turning a blind eye. It's a ticking timebomb
Please come to Denver Colorado for a live show. We have amazing state EV tax rebates right now. Sadly they are shrinking next year. But we also have a very large phenominal convention center downtown. The show could be held there and would be amazing.
Cheers guys
Offshore wind is cheaper than fossil fuels, there's massive capacity out there (100 GW vs 14 GW built as of 2023), it's only going to get cheaper, more EVs will increase electricity demand. I'd be getting worried if I was a fossil fuel executive as the future doesn't look a rosy as it once did.
I believe that PHEV's are the most common types of cars to spontaneously combust?
I have had my ioniq 5 coming up to three-year now and I would never consider reverting back to a Fossil Fuel vehicle! & I am someone who spent the majority of my working living in the petroleum industry.
I'm not sure that Dan's microphone was on top form today.
Good talk though.
Thanks
There is also a huge opportunity around Britain for generating electricity from wave and tidal power, if only people would invest in it properly. We have some of the biggest tidal ranges in Europe, and almost all of our West coast faces the Atlantic.
I met Sir Christophe Cockerell in the 1970's and had the chance to ask him about wave power. He's best remembered for inventing the hovercraft, but his real interest back then was in the Cockerell Raft, which generated electricity directly from sea and lake surface waves. But back then he was encountering apathy from our governments and from industry.
He was ahead of his time, I guess, as was Stephen Salter with his Duck, also known as the Edinburgh Duck or the Nodding Duck. There was some university interest for both projects, but apart from some small scale prototypes, nothing came of either idea.
Others designed hydroelectric projects using tidal flow and tidal reservoirs, to generate constant flows of electricity. At least one prototype was made in the Netherlands, but again, nothing became of it.
Then there is the tidal generator in Scotland which you featured in Fully Charged. That was working very well. But why don't we have more projects like that one?
Sure, there are technological challenges, but they can be overcome. After all, challenges have been met with Solar, Wind, Reservoir Hydro, Oil, Gas and Coal, which were arguably greater challenges than those faced by wave and tidal power.
If price is the problem, then most of those costs will be reduced tremendously by the economies of scale. Just look at how the cost of Solar and Wind power has reduced over the years.
Having a show in Vancouver is great, however our country is 4000 miles wide so we need something in the east, as airtravel is v.expensive here
Ticket just booked. Hopefully I'll make it down on the Sunday
Come to perth please
I one of those travelling south to the “North” - come on, there’s a fantastic show ground at Ingleston where the Royal Highland Show happens in June every year and it has lots of internal roads for vehicle testing!
Come to Bristol for a show.
Great show thanks for your insights.
Minor feedback: please can Dan talk directly into the microphone (partly a microphone setup issue and partly the fact that he's having to move around to talk to Robert and view his notes) to avoid the sound coming and going
Excellent discussion you two, plenty of spin.
However what were these dangers of hydrogen alluded to in the description?
What was the thrust of that point?
Kindly explain.
Guest microphone is inadequate. Hi to low with fade
Note to sound engineer: Dan throws away the end of nearly everything he says, so next time do us all a favour and put him higher in the mix. Thank you.
I think some positive headlines about EVs and renewable power being so much better than the old gas guzzlers might get just as many clicks.
Great episode, except for Dan's microphone kept cutting/fading out.
"Not quite in election season yet" haha well that changed quickly. Definitely keen on critique on manifestos as mentioned, potentially opportunity for further encouragement of LZC tech.
80 per cent of potholes in the UK are caused by HGVs using super singles wheels on their trailers less damage is caused when they used to put twin wheels on one hub which spreads the load better onto the road causing less damage and also the weight increase they now carry a small percentage is caused by SUVs and other cars SUVs are heavier than electric cars now as batteries have gotten lighter and will keep on getting lighter the more innovation is put into them like the solid-state batteries which have just come out and so on. what annoys me is why the councils haven't caught onto putting roadside chargers in lamp posts and to every house which hasn't got off-road parking then charge them a fee for using them they would have to pay out first. Still, people would buy an EV and start using the chargers making them millions of pounds some have done it in a small way. Still, it needs all councils to lobby the government for a grant to do said work, which would benefit us all as a better fiscal council means more amenities for us all, I hope. and not squander the money.
The road where I live Harrogate is just a line of patched and re patched potholes. There are no HGVs on the 20mph road, it's just poorly made and poorly maintained.
Are you coming to Washington DC, Atlanta, or somewhere in the Midwest (Chicago/ Detroit?) Maybe you can make it part of the Autoshow that already is in place
Tesla will be bringing out their 25k model by the end of 2024 or early 2025! + Can you do an episode about how disabled drivers can be helped, because some of us are really struggling, especially when it comes to charging. I know you've done one with Motability, but feel like it's out of date now; so could you please do a update?
It’s a good podcast when we don’t divide the party in to two political camps! I’d like to see more solar across the classes, every solar panel helps to lower emissions and reduce demand so we all benefit long term with every panel that goes up!
Yes I got a used Leaf and have been having so much fun. Facebook marketplace
Please come to Singapore!
Just for the record, Rob, Middlesbrough is so-called because it is in the middle of the U.K. from North to South. So 'the North' really begins to the North of Middlesbrough, and 'the South' really begins to the South of that location.
I took an EV test driving in a BYD and GWm Ora Ora . At the Big Event in Birmingham
Big range of WAV and adapted electric on test
Do come to Telford there’s a massive move to solar and EV and a massive push from sustainability groups such as Transition Town Groups
You need to do a show in eastern Canada, Toronto or Ottawa. As it is 4,359 km between Toronto and Vancouver..
I think that a great show topic would be about how much of economy has switched to electric has impacted the economy. How much less Oil and coal the globe is using? It would be nice to have to celebrate some small wins
Hi you guys what’s your thoughts on using plasma gasification for getting rid of our waste
Yes, Harrogate is one of the most poverty stricken parts of Europe.
My Dad (who worked in car industry most of his life) has been saying for years the state on the road (pot holes) relates to power steering. But the reason you need power steering is because cars are heavier than they were back in the 60s and 70s. But the reason they are heavier is they have more safety features/protection than back then. Of course the SUV fad and electric cars won't be helping this but it's not the main issue. If we all go back to driving Austin Allegros or original minis the roads would be fine :-)
Morning guys 😀
We need to build a general industry battery plant for domestic and grid storage and other industry other than cars.
😄Good day from Lismore, NSW. 🌏
👉Number of 133 sleeps to go👈
Our journey is not just a physical one but a journey of discovery and connection. Starting at the end of September 2024, we will circumnavigate Australia in two CYBERTRUCKs for six months. This journey will cover 22,000 kilometres, and it's not just about the distance but about the impact we can make along the way.
Kate's wife is a well-known interior designer, and Kate was introduced to Grand Design in Australia. The ideal partnership for 50 years of marriage of the year
Among the goals of The Inflation Reduction Act (supposedly) are keep down prices and help the transition to EVs. 100% tariffs on anyone’s EVs is the taking the opposite step
I have mixed feelings about the protectionist policies. If the US and European car makers would bring some more reasonably priced EVs to US shores, then I would be almost OK with it. The fact is that the only vehicles being sold so far are massively expensive vehicles, or seriously flawed vehicles like the Nissan Leaf (50kW chademo will be impossible to find in 5 years over here at public chargers).
I have a suspicion that as soon as car manufacturers bring out $25k EVs with reasonable range and NACS charging, the US based manufacturers selling only $50k- 100k models are going to find themselves in trouble. VW don't sell anything smaller than an ID4. GM's only reasonably priced EV, the bolt, has been discontinued.
Hopefully Hyundai Kia will shake things up with some smaller vehicles this year, ideally made in the USA so they can get the tax credits. The charging infrastructure in the USA is still shaky. Outside of the Tesla superchargers, there are still quite a few charging deserts across the USA, in relatively rich areas.
I'm lucky, in that I got a great deal on a used EV with 200+ miles range and 150kW charging. We also have a Camry hybrid if we don't want to deal with the charging situation on a long trip. I have only DC fast charged it once by necessity (and one other time just to register the car for plug and play at one network). I typically drive 40 miles a day. My longest regular one way trip is 90 miles, and I have access to a 240V, 20A outlet at my destination allowing me to fully charge it there overnight (about 10 miles range per hour)..
With a better charging infrastructure, a sub 200 mile EV with fast DC charging will be great for 90+% of drivers. The only reason you really need 300+ range vehicles is if you do regular long distance trips, and then only because the charging network sucks in so many places that 200 miles range may be a little short between stations.
The Shows are unforgettable , please have lots of fun , and remember to have lots of questions before you go!
Watch lots of Fully Charged episodes beforehand.
Yup, 1.5hrs motorway drive south for me.
UK must decentralised energy through battery storage. Develope the whole electric industry outside the south of England as they are trapped by the oil industry. Start small battery areas, storing energy etc, then concentrating on solar and geothermal through heat pumps. The sea has 10c a lot of potential energy just sitting there, with no one doing anything about it. All costal towns and cities could set up community projects to tap this heat in the sea. Wind power is already owned by the oil corporations so there is limited possibilities there as the will squeeze every penny out of their consumers!
Good luck with Harrogate; please can we have lots of vans available for test drives too - such an important segment and so many people are interested? I hear from my family (they live in England and I don't, and I keep buying them tickets for your shows) that eVans haven't so far been well represented by your shows yet. I'm flying in from New Zealand for your Autumn show down south so please have lots there - so selfish! Especially keen on the eTransit Custom; the small one not the fat one. Then any of the Vivaro-e family, Rivian's amazon one would be cool; basically anything small enough to be a one-vehicle-only vehicle, and also convertible into a camper - again I'm being selfish but loads of tradies and couriers are gagging to try them out. Thanks a bunch you legends, keep up the good work!
EV vans are a joke right now nobody is buying them because there worse in every way - cost more to buy - range is ridiculous when full of equipment you know like what a van is used for - charging time is wayyy to long for a engineer on the go.
Fleet purchase & companies that are forced into buying them is all you see
@@nickthegriffin Hi Nick, bear in mind that your use case isn't everyone's use case; many eVans are out there right now, doing an amazing job and saving many individuals and businesses lots of money and they're really enjoying the ownership and driving experience. An eVan would be perfect for me, and it may not work for you. Consider other people's needs and financial situation before assuming your way is the only way. All the best now.
Had to giggle. “ I’m a communist 😂😂 I believe I decentralisation 🤔🤪🤪🤪 communism is nothing but centralisation “ you could see a decentralised electric system first thing I would do is buy a backup generator.😊
Just thought of a slogan for fossil fuel companies
Burning money….
Alternative energy
Investing money….
I have heard Mate saying that Bugatti would remain combustion/hybrid for now. I believe Rimac will remain EV.
Also Volvo is Geely
Volvo and Polestar split.
Look it up
Re battery storage - why are you not adding in all the home batteries. Not sure how you count it, but it has to be huge now.
right hand side microphone volume is going up and down... sounds so annoying to me...!!!
When does the conversation move to power generation from rivers. Not a whole solution but a reliable generator.
I really don't think the mics are set up - Dan keeps going from audible to inaudible without changing his style of speaking. Quite a few of Roberts recent videos had really bad audio too. Perhaps the techie needs to visit to check the setup?
Look at the angle.
@@rogerstarkey5390
Quite correct for once.
The old blokes aren't "mic trained".
Not their fault so easiest thing is a lav mic headset.
Cheap as chips electret about £20.
Lead down the back and under shirt.
Sensitive as the wife on a bad day.
Rather than follow the US lead of tariffs on EVs what we should be doing is looking to get the Chinese EV manufacturers to base their manufacturing in the UK. This would of course been easier pre-BREXIT when we could offer a market of 300-400m consumers, and now that market is about 80m
And that's why it won't happen. So much opportunity wasted due to a bunch of short sighted 'flag shaggers'
Hmm ... but why would Chinese bother with UK?
Why not go direct to European "mainland"?
There again China suffers from oversupply of battery EVs and can't shift what they have built.
In Germany the car storage compounds have, allegedly, cars that have been sitting around for around eighteen months.
Does that sound as if battery EVs are that popular in Europe?
@@t1n4444 This is why I referred to BREXIT. When she was premier Mrs Thatcher went to great lengths to persuade Nissan to move into Sunderland. Britain provided a better environment than "mainland" Europe while offering access to the EU market. Of course since BREXIT this advantage no longer exists. JLR has a joint arrangement with Chinese Manufacturer Chery to make cars in China and MG is owned by Shanghai based SAIC so there are already links between UK and Chinese manufacturers. The UK is also a hub for Chinese currency trading following a 2014 deal struck when Osbourne was Chancellor. Since BREXIT however inward investment into the UK cannot offer a way to the Single Market as we are a third country which is why I think it is inevitable that we will rejoin the single market eventually, but it might be a decade or more before that happens. As for fields of EVs you have to look at the way that the market works. Due to their high cost most EVs are bought by leasing companies who then lease the cars. Many of those leasing agreements have come to an end leading to a decline in prices on the second hand market but people are reluctant to buy due to FUD regarding battery life which is proving far longer than lobbyists for oil companies and legacy auto would like. China has a glut of EVs, but also produces a number of smaller format vehicles which put EVs into the range of more consumers. So Chinese manufacturers have an incentive to create new markets. Biden has just increased the tariffs on Chinese EVs by 4 times so as well as needing new markets China needs to get around the tariffs being put on their cars, many at the behest of lobbyists from big oil and the legacy automobile manufacturers.
@@t1n4444 got any proof of your allegation? The fact is that sales of EVs, while their rate of growth has slowed, are still growing, while sales of ICE cars are shrinking. Once you have owned an EV, you won't go back to a dead dinosaur car. EVs are just so much better as vehicles.
My C40 has 400hp, 4WD, great tech, amazing instant, lag-free acceleration, and cost me only a little more than my 2015 Prius with 1/4 of the power when I bought that 9 years ago.
The difference is truly astounding. EVs are just better vehicles, and the advances that are still coming in battery tech are going to ensure that they are only going to get better still
@@t1n4444 Oh, and by the way, I recently went to Chicago on a business trip. The rental car company gave me a crew cab F150, 4WD (not my choice). It had roughly the same power output as my Volvo, but ridiculously large, laggy to apply that power, and the turning circle of an ocean liner.
After 165 miles, I paid just under $39 to refill it on the way back to the airport. It would have cost me about $7.50 to put that number of miles in the battery on my home charger, and I don't even have a variable electricity tarrif.
Articulated Wagons cause most potholes I think
Not much chance of international business seeing up in the UK due to Brexit. The UK shot itself in the foot by exiting its closest market. The damage done by that bit of stupidity will be felt for decades.
At this point onshoring manufacturing in any nation is another self inflicted wound. Here in US doing so is resulting in millions if not billions of additional tons of greenhouse gases pollution. Huge swaths of virgin land cleared, huge quantities of concrete steel glass plastic etc etc must be used. Here in Ohio a new unnecessary chip plant is on hold as they can't find employees qualified to operate the plant. China's existing plants have already had their emissions accounted for. For every American there's 4.5 Chinese many highly educated, employees no problem. Ditto for battery, solar, wind plants. Unfortunately the US is using the barbaric playbook inherited from the failed British empire. Imagine a football team using it's 1951 playbook today?? We're in trouble
When are you coming to Germany?
DAN... HEY DAN.... USE YOUR MICROPHONE! You have great things to say and we can barely hear you. 😵
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Hey Robert, Dan and team you should checkout Rewiring Aotearoa CEO Mike Casey. He commercially grows electric cherry's (zero emissions).
Send Imogen to tour the electric cherrys orchard.
Love the show, but hard work with adverts every 4 to 6 minutes, not your fault just CZcams.
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Bad actor?
If it's who I'm thinking of, I think they are a good actor, but I do disagree with their stance on BEVs. But I understand that resistance to change is the standard way for most people
Informative podcast, but Dan's audio is incredibly annoying. Please reduce the noise cancelling in the future, and point the mic to the actual mouth. 😀
I'm having a heat pump with air to air installed soon , No one ever talks about how much better they are and cheaper with much less disruption to to the house . it gets over looked .my 3 bed home is less than £5000 .
Yes please - I have an “all electric” bungalow and don’t want to return to water / “coolant” filled pipes and radiators on the skirting boards and am also interested in A2A but cannot find very much about it other than on the EV Puzzle channel.
Monday, May 27, 2024 ... I propose China's Annual Economy shall proliferate to approximately $100+ Trillion GDI(i.e., This is likely the precursor to WW3). This is sure to happen when their Independent CPUs are on par or better with advancements from the manufacturers in the West and the adjacent technological advancements that will also flourish. This is not the case if this shall happen, but when it happens, sooner than you shall want. China's technological advancements shall be truly game-changing and profoundly attractive to many markets around the Globe, markets with traditionally pro-Western polarized leanings. U.S. base technology shall be more Stately, Subdued, and less agile and appeal to the more Legacy Economic Regimes, and it is President Biden's "Protectionism" that shall give you pause and praise for his insightful Economic Governance.
I'm just a fellow sitting here watching the wheels go round and round, I really love to watch them roll.
How about your next show from Xinjiang province China where Uhygur muslims forced labour is used to make Solar Panels?. Or a Congolese mine where child labour is used to extract minerals by hand.??
What do you guys think about Tony Seba
Robert has already spoken to Tony Seba in one of the podcasts. Think it was last year but might be wrong
TORONTO 2025!!
When you talk about energy and the economy you only seem to think of jobs in the energy sector. However factories that have nothing to do with energy generation consume energy, and benefit the economy and jobs. If energy cost less then you could have more factories that provide more jobs and boost the economy.
Look at Germany when Russian gas stopped the price of energy went up and the economy took a hit and it wasn't good.
The UK has so much wind power if the government went overboard and built too many wind turbines, then the UK would have very cheap energy, and cheap energy means more jobs across all manufacturing, not just jobs in the energy sector, but jobs making all sorts of things.
I think the narrative should change where investing in wind turbines and other cheap energy, should be seen as investing in jobs across the entire manufacturing sector.
Here in New Zealand, our Labour government practically bankrupted us with it's woke/green initiatives. Clean energy is a great idea but unless it's economic sustainability matches it's ecological sustainability, you're screwed - good luck with that.
Would say the bad economy story is bigger than blaming green industries. Like really big picture, probably past 30 years of short term policies where bankers wealth has been built on house prices going up with little investment in other industries. There was a sizeable brain drain of graduates to Australia I recall in the 90s. How's the film biz these days? Too much focus on agriculture and racehorses maybe? Good luck!
@@jillguldbransen5700 the economic downturn can be traced directly to Ardern's appointment & was hidden over the last term as they printed money, desperately hired into the public sector & killed skilled immigration - how's that for short-term thinking. Committing to electric ferries, shutting down refineries & resetting major services with indigenous co-governance. So nice try but go woke = go broke and we did. You're next - good luck.
You would think the green party would be best for clean energy tech type stuff, funnily you mentioned Imogen just after I'd watched 3 or 4 ads I couldn't skip then when I eventually could the ad u could skip was Imogen talking about heat pumps. Also I thought of something watching you previous video talking about ICE cars but I couldn't comment at the time but I refer the ICE cars/drivers as " ICEage fossils "
"The Gender Spectrum - from masculine to feminine:
Men / Queer Men / Non-binary / Trans-women / Women
Trans-women & women have different pelvic anatomy. Men & non-binary people also have different pelvic structures.
Discussions about gender identities must be taken seriously, as these definitions affect public spaces & others' lives. Pelvic qualities can be used to decide who can go to which bathroom or play in competitive sports.
Identities aren't just words. They have lasting & irreversible consequences to those who choose to transition. People under 21 shouldn't be able to make such radical changes to their bodies - which often require surgery."
Sociedad moderna necesita definiciones exactas de humanos 🌈
Can I ask for a show in Scotland? There is so much FUD in the press about all aspects of clean energy especially by the BBC.