Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth Isn’t What You Think, Here's Why
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The Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth marketing train has been full steam ahead since the September 2023 State of Play and we've also just had the February 2024 Rebirth State of Play! Throughout this video, we're going to talk about some of the key differences that exist between Final Fantasy 7, Final Fantasy 7 Remake and Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth.
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The folio system is veeeeryyy reminiscent of FF10’s Sphere grid system and I’m honestly so psyched! I replayed FF10 a lot because I loved that levelling system
I liked the system too. hated the game generally though..
I loved both :) and seriously hope they go in on a VII and X connections.
The remake games have been taking a lot of other FF: The stagger system from 13, the weapon abilities from 9, etc. And in this one will also take the groupal level up from 15.
@@fernandozavaletabustos205 plus given the fact that the team that made 13s battle system is the same ones making the remake series now :) it’s amazing 🤩
me too. best leveling system ever imo. imagine a FFX Rebirth...
“Rebirth isn’t what you think.” Proceeds to spend 15 minutes explaining it’s exactly what people think.
I was thinking the same thing.
They gotta get them views
The unexpected stuff came in the last few minutes for me
Hater
But thats the thing! The fact that we weren’t thinking what we thought is what we didn’t think when we saw the title.
That last trailer is insane. My body is ready, but my soul isn't!
look at the state of play
I CRAVE AERITH DEATH
@@bunniesbunniesbunnielolll wtf
my body is ready; my wallet isn't
me too!
I do hope Sephiroth is playable in side content, like Chadley's simulations. Give him at least one non-canon boss balanced around his broken moveset.
Yes. We need a sephiroth solo battle vs the Weapons 😂
That state of play though.... I was already hype, but Rebirth is going to be absolutely incredible.
The only thing that surprised me was Rude cinematically fighting Tifa, even after his crush was already shown in Remake.
He's not a bad man but sometimes he's forced to do bad things...
He is pulling his punches.
I loved replaying chapter 14 repeatedly to unlock a trophy. Inspiring from the remake team to improve the game
There is literally nothing requiring you to complete the trophy.
If it took you that many times that sounds like a skill issue.
Remind me what happened in chapter 14? It’s been a while. Just chilling here waiting on my preorder. Tell me your secrets!
Looks amazing omg! So much info, so much to delve into. Watched it twice now lol!
Can't wait to start with the demo today! They basically let us start playing it right now, even give us an update to the demo later and by the time we finished it, the game is almost released!
God, I can't wait. I've been playing the demo non-stop for the past two days.
FYI: the second demo that presents the Junon region will arrive on February 21st. Woo!
I believe our girl is dying in rebirth
The scene where her hair was open
And the party fighting Sephiroth with her not in the party at that scene proves it even more.
Rip child of light and may the river streams of the planet be with you
It could be a red herring, why would they show that outcome in the trailer ?
@@sharynmorgan944 I mean why not, everyone that knows anything about ff7 knows Aerith dies, even if they've never played it. Considering this is double the size of the first game its not outlandish to think we will get to or past the part of her death. Depends how much of the story the devs want to save for the third and final game.
@@xbrunnxthat would be incredibly ironic outcome lol
They retconed the entire story, just so Aeris can change things. But she will still die and player choice is also not featured at all o. o
If she doesn't die Sephiroth wins@@misapheonix
@@sharynmorgan944 i hope so 🤞
14:49 I checked it out! They changed the time in the clock in the square to compensate. Remake takes place earlier than the OG did.
I just beat the demo I like what they do when you are turning the valve and when you are crawling at the end where they make the l&r 2 buttons stiffer
You guys deserves more views and subs!!
That’s what I love about it the changes and the corrections that they made.❤❤
Another awesome video!!
FF7 Rebirth Demo Nibelheim Tifa's Room: there is a nice little easter egg. 😊
That's not a easter egg kid, you were able to do that in the original game, it is not meant as a easter egg. Gen z kids are dumb and never played the game when it came out since they were not even alive.
No there isn't, they took it out.
I hope it's a super smooth launch. Really amped for this.
Alright, finally gonna play through Remake haha. Amazing vid!
Finally, “Aerith dies” will no longer be a spoiler
Only because Aerith Lives will be the spoiler.
Tifa dies as well
I think she will die and live at the same time..... It's no coïncidence that there are multiple universes, with different outcomes.
Zack is also alive in one of them, which will change the course of the whole story of that universe. So I think Aerith will die in the universe which we got to see, but in the other one will survive.
It already isn’t. The game came out 25 years ago, spoilers are free at this point
@@lexnaum No, my spoilers are premium. Pay per view even.
Could you consider doing a speculative video regarding the question of Aerith surviving the end of “Disc 1” in the remake trilogy?
I just want Jenova expanded on.
Love you all, be the avalanche the world needs ❤
@@captainspaz8465 nah, avalanche had the right idea
Dude chill out, goddamn you people get mad over nothing.@@captainspaz8465
Well I know ima spend like 100hrs in the first 30% of the game coz I’m the type of player to talk to every single NPC and explore every crevice 😂
It's like it is stealing a bit from ff2 where those who perished Minwu Joseph ya know, where they defeated the emperor in the afterlife. Zack and Aereth maybe sona be a new party to defeat sepheroth in the afterlife.
Subtly referencing the past in a clever way that advances this own story huh...
I like your thinking.
I'm grateful for the hard work and dedication of the development team members for wanting to provide us fans with a worthy remake and actually following through with it.
I still will never forget sitting in highschool watching that trailer it was the reason why i bought a ps4 back in the day just for it to finally drop at the end of the systems life
What a great channel. Ty
I'm interested to see what they do with Zack, originally it looked like Zack survived in an alternate timeline but maybe somehow that Zack is in this timeline with an alt version of Cloud to boot. Poor Cloud already has enough identity problems.
I peaced out after the ToA stuff, and that silhouette of THAT ONE goofy guy, w/the 8 arms, and the 8 goofy swords. Lolololol.
I've already seen too much! Internet Hiatus! 😂💯
Bro, that's Gligamesh how dare you, heretic!
@@RealDafuh I WAS TUH-RYING TO NOOOOTTT GIVE OUT SPOILERS. 🙄
LOL. I KNOW who it is. The REAL question is, WHY IS HE HERE???
HE SHO WASN'T IN THE OG! 😅
@@TimoteoJuan89 that's no spoiler ^^
The devs already showcased his tease.
Beautifully done
So is the Folio system replacing the weapon upgrading I hope not I like the thought of being able to playthrough the whole game with the Buster Sword.
That first trailer in the state of play was something else. I know i needed to look away, but i physically just couldn't.
I really wish this was coming to PC at the same time as PS5!
I just bought a ps5 gonna be worth it.
What is the piano music in the background of this video?
Look up TPR final fantasy vii
Omg i cannot wait to see the Midgar Zolom!
lol Same
I wonder how Beta is going to look
It's not gonna be in the game. It was only in the OG to show off Sephiroth's strength, this time they just let you play as him to show off his strengh.
Was surprised they removed the Dragon boss. Probs to do with the fact Sephiroth is now playable and that was purely there to show how strong he was.
They removed the little dragon boss in the Kalm flashback? Dammit I’m not sure I want to play the demo when I’ve already preordered. It feels like it would be a little masturbatory
Also I kinda was looking forward to getting one shotted by a dragon while Seph takes him apart while reviving me every other turn 😂
I'm most likely going to wait and see how they handle save file from previous game, especially on pc .
I believe they said you get access to a couple of summons right away if you completed the earlier parts, there is no carry forward, and this is a separate game.
I've played the demo 7 times and watched MaxDood play it 4 times. I'm ready.
Where did you get all those cutscenes from? I don’t recall them from trailers and the state of of play?
They got early access
@@nathanh6439 Right…
Im down for any and as many changes as they want to make, I just want to Omnislash that maniac at the end.
15:33 A M-M-Meteor Campaign!? Oooh noooo!!! 😂
I really hope Sephiroth will be playable in the postgame or perhaps even throughout parts of the story
They said after you beat the game you can go through in chapter selection and choose other characters to play other than cloud.
@@NerdAtWork Fr? Nice! Would be great if we could use him in the open world too
He's playable in the first chapter! Check out the demo! Starts with the events of Nibelheim!
I'm sitting here still wishing for those amazing graphics on a remake of the old game for nostalgia.
Lol
I'm good I prefer this timeline with superior gameplay and graphics.
Yep same here. It I don't think we are ever getting it now.
@@billythenarwhal1579 They ruined a great story with filler but at least the gameplay sucks too lol
@@cjlister8508 thank goodness we aren’t! What a waste it would be to make a less engaging version of this , just following the same exact story again. Boring af
The piano minigame is a lot harder, but also a lot more fun
As long as they don't kill Tifa. Part of me thinks modern square is so desperate to subvert expectations that they'll do it.
It’s going to be do this mission again and again instead of higher end open world it’s going to look and play great but it could be so much more and bigger but I’m hoping
Do you think they will save playable Cid and Vincent for episode 3?
coz it plays like kingdom hearts. combat does feel more fluid though, can't wait to see the new materia combo's
All I can say is that I hope it does surprise me because I was waiting and waiting and waiting for a playable demo and that playable demo that we got was just so underwhelming.
The exact same untouched demo that people got over a year ago that they couldn't even compile to release to the Mass public decently enough to where even the other half of the DLC which will need to be replaced anyway comes out a week before the final release.
I really hope that within this last year they have touched up the numerous amount of things add bugs that are wrong in this demo.
I have listened to you since the start and I trust your judgment in fact if I'm not mistaken I even one time attempted to challenge your knowledge...
So I can only hope that the good things that you say about this game will be coming to fruition.
Because my hopes had dropped a little bit after playing that demo my friend
Folio….suspiciously looks like a sphere grid. Are we getting close to confirming they’re the same universe? 😮
There's a fan theory that FFX takes place before FF7 in the same universe. One of the Al Bhed in FFX-2 mentions something about wanting to harness the world's life force to create energy to help the world. Or something along those lines. Could just be an easter egg though
Only problem with the theory is if they came from space to gaia… why would shinra need cid to invent space travel
@mikewehr7887 Shinra forgot I guess? 🤷🏼♂️
@@nekomorph17 yeah I’m not buying them going from interstellar travel to like basic ass 1960s rockets lmao
Lol weirdos just really need to tell ppl they're not playing. Ohhh OK baby
ironic
Yeah how dare fans of the original want the game to live up to the original . Let’s let these goofballs make a new game with robe men that sucks and is full of filler content and not say anything . Lol don’t piss on me and say it’s raining when we can’t even play as Vincent or cid
we are all still that guy who is in a suit and ends up screaming on top of his chair, perched like a bird, going "NO, NO IT CAN'T BE".
I like the folio system- It feels like a much more refined Sphere grid system of FF10
It reminded me of that as well.
5:25 I dunno why this still needs to be said, but FF7R isn't a remake or reimagining, it is a sequel. It simply cannot exist independently from the prior game. That is the definition of sequel.
lol, you're delusional, that's been deconfirmed long ago... this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard, you promote a game as a remake and new players would have to play the OG before without anyone telling them... yeah makes perfect sense. They're adding elements, not re-writing them.
Yeah... especially with the new trailer. It is now very clear that it is a sequel
lol sure why not, keep dreaming, you'll be disapointed@@426Studios
It is was a con. People bought wanting a remake and got a sequel, is cheap and deceving the fans.
And how does this make any form of sense? If it were true we would know, we wouldn't even question it. What you're describing is one of the dumbest marketing decision ever. All based on a youtube theory blown out of proportion. Look, keep thinking what you want but you're driving new and old players away from the game, at least call it what it is, a theory. There are literally no proof it's a sequel and again, if it were, we would 100% know. There would be zero reason for them not to tell us. Deceiving fans is not what anyone is looking for in the industry. It's what youtubers do.@@rsrocha1984
I will be honest after I played remake I was definitely in the camp of people who did not enjoy some of the changes to the story. But my perspective has changed, and I am trying to enjoy this game more in its own right then as a technical remake of one of my favorite games from my childhood. With that mindset, the rebirth trailers have absolutely blown me away, and I am definitely excited to play this game. I really like the addition of character affinity and specific character interactions that need to be sought out. It kind of reminds me of the ATE in Final Fantasy nine. Definitely excited to see where the developers have taken it from here.
Thank you! I’m in the same camp! I came to realize that I knew every single little detail of the OG! Now I realize I want everything more fleshed out and a little freshness and that’s exactly what is being delivered. On that subject, maybe at the end of disc 2 we don’t need to…lose that one character. You know, so they can provide lots more content and storytelling in disc 3. Let’s be real. That chick is in the know and there was so much unanswered because of that death. Bugenhagen touched on that wellspring of knowledge we missed a little in the OG
I just wish it was on PC, that 30 FPS mode looks dang good but man does it hurt the eyes
Not really much of a difference, but the 60fps mode sure is a difference.
Sephiroth has been saved to Cloud storage.
Tbh, ive avoided watching any trailers about vii rebirth so thag when I play it im not hyped up in a way that the game can't come close to meeting
I think rebirth will play exactly like the OG until the very end when everything will be turnt upside down
In a few weeks, we will see if Aerith lives or dies.
im a tad torn on this to me the orig version of ff7 is amazing, to remake it like this might be special to some, but to me it changes the point i say, the orig ff7 and the remake are not in some ways even close to the same game, i sort of resent that
You have the most therapeutic voice
im scared that we're gonna be watching 2 timelines, one with zack one with cloud, and they don't meet, i hope im wrong, and i really really hope the timelines unite if im not wrong
My current belief is that when they stepped out of the rift at the end of remake, the world and history was Remade. It’s not parallel timelines.
I think what everyone forgets is that tifa found cloud, he recovered, and joined them on the bombing mission in a short span of time. Zack’s chapter is probably him going to find aerith while essentially the bombing missions happen at the same time.
In the present of this timeline, they are chasing sephiroth, with Zack trying to catch up to the party.
My working idea of all of this is two fold- 1. Sephiroth is going to try and kill tifa, since he knows she’s the one who puts cloud back together again. 2. When he tries to kill her, aerith pushes her because she knows her role AND tifa’s in the whole thing.
The rebirth subtitle is that sephiroth is going to take over Zack’s body and be reborn- remember the sephiroth we chase is really jenova, sephiroth actual body is in northern crater.
It’s basically going to come down to very similar circumstances as the original, but cloud will have the extra weight of knowing if he kills sephiroth, he kills Zack.
Multiple interviews have said this is going to lead into advent children perfectly still, so aerith and Zack have to die, it’s just a question of how it all goes down.
You're right! I am completely surprised how bad this game looks graphically, even worse than PS4 open world games like Horizon Zero Dawn and AC Origins. I thought it could at least be on par with FF7 Remake, especially since we are going on 4 years of PS5 hardware. It totally wasn't what I was thinking it'd be! How did they do that?? 😮😮😮
Not sure what you was watching but part 2 looks league's better then the 1st part.
Tifa actually might being a clone would destroy everything for Me
It looks good enough I want to get a ps5 just to play it, but I wont, Ill just wait till it inevitably comes out on PC.
Gonna be that much better of a game by the time we can get it off Steam. I hope it don't get taken by Epic again for a limited time like part 1 cause it sucked waiting for it to come to PC only to have even longer to wait when it did because I do not buy from Epic.
Im gonna crumb
I said to my buddy, why is swueenix allergic to money??
that game is like u think just buy m i see the completed game better as the old ones.
Why would anyone play rebirth without playing remake? They're literally giving remake away for free when you buy rebirth.
If I could make a mod for Final Fantasy seven “remake”, I would make it so it says in the title screen Final Fantasy Seven Not a remake
Ha, ha, ha, ha. That would show Squair Enix. 🙄
It's a remake of high demand. That demand stemmed from something. IT better be what people think it will be.
It’s already too late they massacred it with the first one
It better surprise me with aerith living. Imagine playing a remake, and it still results in her predictable death and further heartbreak 💔 😅
I do worry that by expanding the story they are just spoon-feeding us the ‘under the surface’ lore that made the first game so mysterious and interesting. You had to dig deep to understand Sephiroth and Zack in the original.
I think it's actually better so far.. the world's colliding between Zack and Cloud.. it's going a bit deeper into the world alive and the lifestream world. I wouldn't be surprised to see Zack save the lifestream from within to get it to help the Holy spell. I like it
I’m very positive Zack’s side is everyone who has died or will die in the original universe and being in a different universe created by the lifestream. Based on “on the way to a smile” side story
@@ZephyrFate on the way to a smile is a prequel to Advent Children and takes place in the original timeline.
@@ZephyrFate I think it'll sorta be like that. I think it's just an alternate timeline where Zack lives instead of Cloud. Cloud dies from poisoning and never joins avalanche. We see Barrett and Tifa dead on stretchers presumably because Cloud wasn't there to help. Maybe they eventually converge.
Yes, it will surprise...in the wrong way.
I still don't have a PS5, so I opted to build a PC. I'm not into the current lineup of exclusives, so there's no point for me. I've been able to avoid XVI spoilers and I'm hoping I can continue that with Rebirth. I'm just hoping the ports come sooner rather than later lol
With part 2 of FFVII, it will be the latter.
RIP Cloud
They still haven't released the remake yet? I thought they did that ages ago
My guess is that they will go on some weird alternate path/story. She wont die. or Tifa will die instead
The new rules of modern media, rather that be movies/shows/games/ect, females can no longer be either seriously injured or killed. So if anyone dies in the game it has to be male. Sucks, I know. I find that shit gay as hell.
This is gonna suck no Vincent or cid . What are we only going to cosmo canyon or even worse … we’re gonna have Vincent and cid with us for like hours and not be able to use them .
Okay, so it IS what I thought it was
I feel like this game is just created for both Newcomers and long time fans. Pulling long time fans with all the crazy possibilities and same story for new players! Can’t wait to see where this all ends up tho! I do like how they make Cloud react to Tifa in the flashback tho. It makes sense to us long time fans but for new players, they don’t recognize what’s happening! If you know you know 😊
Long time fans hate it we’re not getting Vincent or cid plus they massacred it in the first game story wise
I'm loving Rebirth, but I do still hope that they make an FF7 - The original, which is just a remake of the original.
This has the potential to be the greatest FF of all time. Please don't drop the ball with the story Sqaure Enix.
Already did whisper man
'It'll be nothing like it's predecessor and that's an exciting prospect.'
Why exactly? I own thousands of games with different stories I can play. What I can't play is a modern retelling of the story of final fantasy 7 and this isn't it. When you get excited because something 'subverts your expectations' I just get sad knowing for how many people this will be their first experience with ff7 and they kingdom hearts/advent children'd all over the original story. It makes me sad. Moving on.
Because if you want the original story, play the original. It should be respected because it's the same writer of the original. That should be okay. If you don't like that, that's okay but it should also be okay to like the remake more as well.
@@matthewloredo3665 I do still play the original on occasion and that's fine for me. I wanted the story retold for more modern gamers who won't be able to tolerate the older art style and combat system. That's why I wanted a remake, so the story would move on for a new generation. Not this garbage they're putting out.
Doesn't matter whose credits are where. A lot of people had input on ff7 and they all contributed to it. Some more than others in different areas. The thing about that is those same names are also attached to train wreck storytelling games, and having played those I have no faith when they take this many liberties with the original. That's why following 'auteres' is inane. Sometimes things go in a way you don't care for. I'd take 4x more metal gear styled games than death stranding
Not a reimagining. Its a SEQUEL!!
Remake isn’t in the same timeline as the original. You can change Aerith’s destiny this time around if you know how.
cant wait to see aerith to get merked in ultra hd 3d
You're gonna be waiting forever then because she ain't gonna die this time around, this I guarantee ya.
@@randysalsman6992 i guarantee her coffin
@@randysalsman6992 i guarantee her coffin
Honestly, i just wish they just picked up from where DoC ended for a continuation of the story and the remake was just faithful. It would be great playing as Cloud and the party in their AC outfits and maybe teaming up with Genesis and Weiss to destroy Sephiroth completely in a final game of the Complication. Too bad it will never happen now.
I didn't like the story of the FF7 Remake but the gameplay was still fun so I'll give Rebirth a fair chance. At least gameplay wise. Story wise though, yeah it lost me. I'm the minority here though so glad to see other people enjoying it and I'm more than happy to talk about the game at the end of the month.
I’m right there with you. They should have just expanded but not change. The whole arbiters of fate and possible multiple timeline thing is all dumb nonsense. And now Sephiroth is a reoccurring boss rather than a mysterious figure who slowly gets unveiled who he is.
@@nba21129Even people that never touched a final fantasy game know who sepiroth is. It makes no sense for him to be mysterious anymore.
@@luisgustavopecanha5507 Yeah, and everybody knows Darth Vader is Luke Skywalkers father. But it’s about the delivery and execution that makes it amazing.
I think the story was garbage too and I think the game play has a lot of filler
@@luisgustavopecanha5507so your saying most people who haven’t played know that’s jenova… ok I don’t think so but whatever you say
This guy really knows how to shovel shit for a long time
He use to, and still does from time to time work on a farm.
SMH. Good video bro bro.
Don't forget that Sephiroth basically waiting for 4 years (Remake release in 2020), a next leap year cycle, to initiate his reunion plan.. In previous trailer, Sephiroth hint that reunion in Rebirth will be happen in much larger scale than reunion in og FfVii so it makes sense that Sephiroth want this reunion happen in next leap year cycle..
Also the fact that Square Enix pick 29th Feb this year, a day that only appear in leap year, as Rebirth launch date make me realise that we, as player, will be become part of this reunion event because we mostly play this game when it comes out..
My biggest concern is MATERIA. In the original FF7, the sky was the limit in terms of customization of equipment and setups. But in Remake, I felt like they put a "cap" on what you were truly capable of with each character. This is very much like what they did in Final Fantasy 13 (part 1), they basically capped your stats until you reached a certain point in the game and could expand.
I don't like being "forced" in to difficult sections just because they want to challenge ME the player. In fact, I much prefer the Final Fantasy 8 method of customization that lets you create overpowered setups that let you breeze against some bosses, or choose to fight enemies however you want to face them with whatever tactics you've got in mind.
In Remake, the All Materia was limited in number, so only some characters could use it in the party. There were a few other Materia that were also limited or could only be used in some situations (like Enemy Skill, which only absorbs monster skills that can't be replicated on other party members... ) It's like they were thinking about Hard Mode the entire time they built everything, and that doesn't sit well with me.
I can only hope that they give players a bit more breathing room this time around.
Junction system from FF8 was garbage. Glad it never returned.
That was one of my biggest disappointments with remake, the materia/skill/attributres werent really emphasized. They put all their production into world building and the story and not the depth of the combat system IMO. It was enjoyable, but nothing close to what OG FF7 offered in terms of customization and materia possibilities.
@@luisgustavopecanha5507 You never drew out its full potential. Sucks to be you, then.
@@craciunator99 I know they're taking a page from Chrono Trigger with the Syncromization teamups, but I still have a feeling Materia will still be limited based on what I saw of the Demo of Rebirth.
I played the original back in 97, and this whole experience has been pure joy. There is obviously a lot of corporate stuff going on, but it does feel like a group of people taking a great story and attempting to make it even better. How it all shakes out remains to be seen, but I've enjoyed the journey so far. This feels like what a modern game should, filled with story and diverse gameplay options. I just want them to keep doing what they are doing.
..It will be Re-Rebirth by the time I can find time to play this. I only have like 20min a week to spend on gaming these days..
Get a Steam Deck, you will find time. I did.
I got legit emotional during the state of play. At one point my wife asked if I was trying to catch flies.
Sadly I couldn't get past the remakes game play. I'm just going to say the truth: I suck too much to play multiple people at the same time. If easy mode was more like FF13 battle system where I don't have to give many inputs and the things played themselves.
It get's easy pretty quickly. When I first started playing I couldn't get past the first boss fight, was just about ready to give up when it finally clicked. Glad it did because I was seriously just about to quit and I would have missed out on what turned out to be one of the best games I have ever played. So I'd give it more of a chance if I were you, you never know it just might eventually click for you too.