How Brilliantly DICE Made Us Hate War | Crying & Wandering Soldiers
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2023
- This is the extended version of one of my Video "No Game Has Ever Showed This Side of War Except BF1!", the intro mission in BF1 is one of its kind.
It shows the madness of war, how soldiers on both sides suffered, you can see soldiers wandering around with their head down, probably crying. While playing this mission no matter how good you are in battlefield, the only thing that can save you from this war is death.
Battlefield 1 intro mission only covers one day of war imagine that madness for 4 years (1914-1918), I wouldn't even dare to imagine.
In Peace, Sons bury their fathers,
In War, Fathers bury their sons.
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Can You Hide or Escape from BF1 Intro Mission & Worse Fate of Deserting Soldiers during WW1, video here guys check it out:
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Hey, thank you
Makes you hate war, yet gives a cathartic ding with every kill.
hehe I agree its because of wars that we get masterpiece games like these XD, but I still wished these wars never happened.
@@willysillyplays Well it's sad but it was inevitable, the world is very evil.
The MOST cathartic ding
Clem?
@@willysillyplays Wars were why we humans were able to advance as a race. Growth is always found through adversity. But it's still a shame that some people lost their lives. No life should ever be ended for the advancement of our species. But Im afraid thats just brutal reality.
All battlefield 5 had to do was bring this atmosphere to WWII. All I wanted was for them to take the single most apocalyptic and deadly conflict ever known with SOME semblance of seriousness.
Totally agreed buddy, they knew what gamers want from feedback bf1 had, yet they decided to go opposite of it.
I feel the Last Tiger was the single best part of the campaign. It shows perfectly what radicalization can do to someone, especially when Kurt and the Commander you play knew it was a lost cause.
D-Day would have been an amazing campaign mission
@@I-AM-EL-ZOZOfuck d-day in all of the games about WWII, it's so boring already
@@aidanpysher2764 self repairing tiger single handedly destroying entire armored division makes that campaign as shitty as the rest of the game
Another lesser known fact. Back then, Shell Shock wasn't a recognized mental illness and instead was considered cowardice/disobedience. Soldiers suffering from Shell Shock were often executed because of this.
Being executed in battle is....better than suffering in ww1
Dont you think ?
If you think about it, executed soldier got the best death than suffering
This was the first time Shell Shock WAS recognised as a condition and some people were treated compassionately.
Makes you wonder about, say, the Victorian-era wars where empires would take over people with spears. What memories did those soldiers bring home, and wake up with at night?
hey bud, I had another video about it, this topic of deserting (shell shocked) soldiers being executed was painful to study.
czcams.com/video/aofkZ8Uq-tw/video.html
Source?
@@worldcomicsreview354 Shell shock is different to PTSD or rather a different more specific type of PTSD. War in the old ages did not employ the use of explosive artillery shells anywhere near the scale of WWI it is the shock of the explosions that seprate Shell shock from PTSD as the shockwaves cause nerve damage over time.
Honesty the quote "You are not expected to survive" gave so much dread than any other game at the time could of achieved. Making the player feel for once that you are no longer a hero, just another soldier expected to die.
yeap buddy well said, there are no heroes and villains in war just ordinary human beings trying to serve their nation and carryout orders.
@@willysillyplays hell sometimes it’s not even that they are just trying to survive man
If more games/media sent that message, I believe you would have a lot less glorification of war. Everyone thinks they're going to go to the field and come home as the big hero. Nobody imagines being a nameless corpse laying face down in the dirt somewhere, family wondering where you are/if you're ok. Most men don't even consider it, they're so deluded by ego and rambo fantasies. Life is fragile guys, treat it as such.
@@user-bc8ff8oi8kI was in the Army (11B infantryman) and everyone does anticipate this. They literally tell you in every training event the first person to walk in the door is most likely going to get shot and possibly die. It's an unfortunate reality when clearing buildings you don't actually have full Intel on or are taking over a new area. That's why they train everyone to eliminate the threat as quickly as possible and they make us learn our medevac routine quite vigorously. Of course there is all that egotistical talk, what the hell do you think is gonna lift anyone's spirits when they are being sent to war? The thought of dying is in every one of their heads as well.
there never are any heroes to start with, war is hell, no matter what its shown in, games, movies, anything
To me, shooting the defenseless and broken by accident is a mistake made. Its a reflex, we see an enemy, we right click..... we don't realize what has happened till later. Then we move on. Similar to real life incidents I believe.
very well said, this has been embedded into your mind that thats your enemy and you have to kill him, then its about reflexes that you will shoot at anyone who you think look like you enemy.
happens a lot, sometimes with civilians and even allies.
I shot them in the intro to be honest. Not because they are enemies, but because it's just like.....these are people who will never become normal people after what they have seen if they make it back home. They will *never* forget what they had to do and what they saw others do to each other, and they can never be a normal person again so its best to mercy kill them for their own sake. To me, the fact they give you the option to mercy kill them shows they understood this war way too well.
Just reading letters is enough to churn your stomach, because what even was the war for? Absolutely nothing, and that realization is one of the few things that will genuinely haunt you when you think about WWI. At least with WWII you can say there were "bad guys" but with WWI? No one was a good guy or a bad guy, and that, is absolutely terrifying knowing that. No one was to blame wholly, because everyone used desperate tactics and technology to try to win the war and it just kept getting worse until one side basically couldn't take it anymore. It's depressing, and it makes you angry when you read about things like the Somme and makes you understand why there were mutinies and constant problems with soldiers denying orders. Too many by the end refused to kill because they realised there was no point.
The Great War has very good videos on the entire timeline of WWI on YT, and there were times in videos he was actually genuinely angry because it's so hard to believe generals and officers actually made them go through with plans like the Battles of the Somme and the Battles of the Isonzo River. It's just madness.
thats jsut what happened...in the days of the great war, there was no PTSD, there was no shellshock, there was no warcrimes....each side pushed their men to breaking point, with barely a scrap to the name of each push, men that originally thought that they where fighting for what they believed in, but instead they fought for what other made them fight for, they all gave up something so we can breath the way we did today, thinking that they where making a change....thats why i believe their will never be a generation greater than the heroes who fought for what we have today
Left click you mean?
A small datail that I love is that the prologue does not tell you where it is. You are just in some muddy wasteland fighting for something you don´t even know, just because you were told you to do it. BF1 Is a masterpiece.
France most likely iirc most guys you play in the prolouge are supposed to be harlem hellfighters
@@agentpuggles5704 Yes, and during the cinematic, you hear soldiers screaming "à couvert !" which means "take cover" in french.
given the accuracy of this game in depicting WW1, it could be anywhere...even Mars.
I love how people are still mesmorised by bf1 even 7 years after release. The game and it's message will never die
It's like a wine, the older it is getting the more value it is holding within.
Such a masterpiece.
People have been playing GTAV for a decade, some games are made to play forever
Often times the servers are depleted tho
@@eancola6111age of empires 2 = almost 3 decades 😂
Imagine every time you died or got a kill there would also be a name and a random flashback just to remind you how each one was a real person who had their own lives from childhood to adulthood just to get capped by the main protagonist because he has more health than they do
Damn buddy, that would be sick never thought of this but would have loved if they added this.
That would be so devastating to experience even though it’s gimmicky in nature. Just no music, horror atmosphere with an even more gruesome detail added to each death. All Quiet on the Western Front eerieness
maybe not after like every kill because it would just get annoying after a bit. but maybe each time you die or something
@@Just_a_Piano_ With AI they could even have an area where you could interact with that persons profile and the AI could generate dialogue as if it was that actual person where you can talk or type to
Might actually give people PTSD though
Vietcong had something a bit similar, you could search killed enemies for ammo, and when you did you could find personal things and Hawkins (main character) actually had comments about it.
I remember it again. I accidentally killed one of "broken" Germans and immediately regret it. BF1 was a masterpiece of drama and cinematography in video games. After the Intro I needed a breather and stopped playing for that evening. I myself was in the Army but I never got deployed. My father, uncles, older cousins and grandfather on the other hand did see combat, some of them even very intense. I am glad that I never saw combat.
Yes it feels very bad, it feels like a war crime, and I am pretty sure your relatives who are in army and have seen war will never ever glorify war because they have seen it, btw thanks for watching please do subscribe if possible.
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@@skalaskala2484menace alert is going off hard with this one
It’s just a game m8. No feels for fiction not one bit. If I was playing as a real character and I saw the history behind em yes. But I looked people up after the names came on screen and immediately just played as normal after.
@@BumHoleTickler honestly?...if you want to be absolutly blunt then its almost mercv killing.
All these soldiers went to experience something unimagineable and they have to life with it.
Nobody around them understands them.
Look at all those soldiers who come home after doing "their duty for their nation" and how they get treated.
I don’t think it makes us HATE war cause we have fun with it. but it does a good job at showing it’s brutality
we love war GAMES not the war, but I have seen some amateur gamers who would think real war is as fun as it seems in a game.
@@willysillyplays yeah that is true. I think it’s hard for non gamers to realize that we don’t have fun with killing people, but more with competition and sadly, fighting for your own life is the biggest competition you can get. I think that’s the reason why war games are that popular
@@willysillyplays "Do you think he will fight? When the blood, and the screams take hold. Do you think he would stay? He would flee! And he would be right to do so. War will be the death of man."
There'd nothing fun about actual combat little bro
@@albinoyak2755 sure there is, alot of current soldiers and veterans would of loved to see their enemy pummeled by artillery. who wouldnt?
In so many games, you play as THE main character. People fall and die around you but you fight to the last, knowing you will canonically make it - even if you die and have to re-load the checkpoint. Battlefield 1’s campaigns and even the multiplayer too stripped me of whatever heroism I felt about joining up. Used to want to join up as a kid, but eventually realised it wasn’t for me. Even now, the threat of global conflict still looms, and I truly believe that the only way I could ever fight to the bitter end is if my country were to be invaded, same as these Ukrainians are likely feeling still now.
This game played a vital role in reminding me that most likely, in the event I was shipped off to fight for a land I never knew, in a war completely alien to me, I’d likely be curled in a ball crying my eyes out same as anyone.
War breaks people, and the army knows that, so they break you before war can, forcing you to be able to work well under a hail of fire, and to still remain somewhat sane amongst the insanity. To put it simply, war is hell.
Yeah bro, at least we are agreed on one thing, we hate war but when their is no other way around than you must brace yourself for it, like you said Ukrainians, doesn't matter if they love or hate war but they are forced to fight to protect what they love.
Ukrainians are still lucky, atleast the world is listening to them. Palestinians on the other hand, very few of them are heard.
@@muhammadkhan2007 Ukrainians are only being listened to because they're the US's lapdogs and cannon fodder.
@@muhammadkhan2007Palestine was under British rule when Israel was created and Jews lived in judea far longer before the Muslims conquered it.
They make shooting and killing someone a reflex so you don’t hesitate
The soldiers who were present took one last look at there families knowing damn well they were not coming back, and its sad because most people dont understand....they never will
yup bud, totally agreed but unfortunately the young boys that were sent to War were told exactly opposite of this.
@@willysillyplays its said that more than once, as french soldiers were being given their mission briefing and sent to the lines, the conscripted men would bleat like lambs, to mock their officers and paint the grimness of the situation
I understand. And that is why if I'm drafted, I'm going to immediately turn renegade. I have no land. I have no family. I have no future. Yet society wants me to die for it? Naw, I'd rather die spiting it, to enact revenge for all the previous victims of it. My beliefs were reaffirmed, when I saw the inside of a C-47 paratrooper plan. It feels like a haunted house, a testament to humanity's madness. Barren walls not thick enough to stop bullets, a cockpit two sizes too small. The outside looked dashing and inviting, the inside looked like you were sent to hell...because that would be exactly where you were going.There were no furnishings, only function, like what a Go-Kart looks like vs. a full sized car.
They fought for a world where we wouldn't need to understand.
@@maewemeetagainbut the first war was pointless…
Another fact you may not know about WW1,
At the time of the WW1, the leaders of the world's three greatest nations - King George V of Great Britain and Tsar Nicholas II of Russia on the one hand, and Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany on the other - were first cousins, their grandmother was Queen Victoria, interesting, isn't it?
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its insane, but interesting. a lot of the royal families who were at war with one another ended up being related somehow.
Most brilliant game opening ever. Every game should be like this.
I learned that for the first time in Kings Man
also the king of romania
Family drama escalating to the World's stage 😭
This entire game with no HUD and maxed out settings on a 4K monitor is probably one of the most visceral and grisly depictions of any armed conflicts in the history of gaming. All its missing is the blood and limbs flying everywhere to be honest
There's games on PC that capture the limbs.
I played one that enemies that had been wounded would occasionally fall to the ground and sob, calling out for their mother until they died from their wounds.
It really puts things into perspective.
@@1991USsoldierwhat's it called?
@@KalashDaCat hell let loose
And the smell
I heard that Dice didnt go for intense g*re and blood because they didnt want to look disrespectful and turn killing in a war more brutally fun than it already is
I know it's probably the point, but that scene of the two soldiers lowering their weapons always makes me tear up slightly. It's such a powerful image. At the end of the day, those are people behind the guns and that's what BF1 was aiming for. To bring us closer to the human side, rather than just more shooty shooty boom boom, action hero BS.
🙄🤦🏻
@@dixenherize6969 ouch
@@dixenherize6969"look how cool I am for not understanding a message, I will look even cooler acting like a powerful message will mean nothing."
@@dixenherize6969Learn some empathy you reptile. There's no shame in someone feeling sad over a tragic message. There is shame in whatever the hell you tried to bring though.
@@dixenherize6969jerk
What I love about the intro is the severe, haunting lack of music. Just ominous droning coming from shellshock, explosions, warmachines looming in the distance. If you put yourself there, to be there, you'll be scared. You will be scared.
I’d be broken 😢
I'd be scared or scarred? Because I know I'd be both
The you are not expected to survive part at first made me think, ya okay I'm the main guy I'm sure I'll be fine. Then you actually die and the name comes up and I was like holy shit I really wasn't gonna make it, it really made it feel like a real battle I was part of not just part of fighting bc I can die just like anyone else with no checkpoint load like real war, and damn my guy was only 19 that really hits ya when you get someone that young you die as
yeap bud, this first mission has another feeling to it and no doubt its a masterpiece, we have never experienced a game before like that, it tells you right away no matter how good you are at war you still going to die and won't survive.
Ngl, it would be cool a Battlefield campaign where you don't play as a single Main character instead play ZombiU style (You die, you control a new character while also losing the previous character skills and items) but instead control a soldier nearby and each soldier has a different class
As somebody who is 19 years old, has anxiety, and is a history buff, the idea that in ww1 and ww2 most of the soldiers were within a year or two of my age, oftentimes a year or two younger, and were going through this absolute Hellscape is very sobering. It makes me appreciate all of the sacrifices on both sides of the wars more. On the off chance that anybody who reads this served in the military, thank you for your service.
facts, when I first played the prologue no matter how hard I tried to stay alive I always ended up getting killed. Like it was inevitable
Those aren't sad soldiers, those have PTSD or "shellshock" damages. Poor guys, they were the first in history to experiment that brain damage caused by the horror of that "new" war
I’m fairly certain shell shock has been a thing since Cain and Abel…
I played it, i tried many times to survive the intro but failed. Hahaha. Just after the intro i already hate war. Not like cod, i desire to be like them, they look cool, though , hardcore & crazy commando guys who was a man idol. Good job dice, they tell the story really good for me to open my eyes that war is terrible & I announce to you I really hate war because that game
yes, totally agreed :)
It was because for centuries war has been romanticized as a heroic battle between a purely good side and the evil side. Incredible heroes fight against evil and give peace back to the good. This is most commonly seen in cultural depictions such as art, music, literature and many more mediums that were and are still accesible today.
Every soldier and nationalist man would fight for their country, but this kind of warfare is the one even the thougest of men cant stomach it
GREAT WAR, I CANNOT TAKE MORE!
these aren't a song lyric, but I am sure were words of many soldiers in war, who vanished into the war afterwards.
@@willysillyplaysisn’t that sabaton
@@driestmarlin4317yeah it's definitely sabaton
12:20 is a moment I'll never forget. The look of relief on the German soldier's face, after the nod from the Harlem hellfighter, says more than any amount of words too. 2 men tired from....everything deciding, in that moment, to be human again. It's a powerful image. This was brilliant from DICE.
This is probably going to sound dumb but BF5 really helped me understand how it feels to be living with PTSD. Whenever those V-1 Rockets or JB-2s were called in, that distinct buzzing sound it made always stuck with me. So much so, that when I first heard it in real life, I legit started to feel anxious and was looking up in the sky to see if anything was coming down. I felt pretty stupid in that moment, but humbled that I don't have to live like that everyday
Oh god I remember my first jitterbug, fighting on OG twisted steel (UK vs. GR) I hear the sound and look up, trying to remember what the sound was. Seeing that flying tube, I just hit the deck nearby the town closest to allied spawn. Once I heard the cut and explosion and looked back, I could see alll the way to the rivers other side. All the buildings, soldiers, gone. It was one hell of a memory in game.
I used to have PTSD.
Loud bangs would make me seek cover.
My ex fiance used to mock me for it.
@@1991USsoldier that's fucked up of her, I hope you're doing doing better
@@th3thatguy631 I am now. I got it from being shot at, for real.
I'm married to a different woman now and she helped me work on it so much it's gone.
@@1991USsoldier that's great, I never made it out of Navy Bootcamp as I messed up my knee while I was in, but I've had ptsd from childhood so ik how difficult it is getting rid of it. Glad your doing better.
We need more games like this.
there are plenty if you know what you are looking for
@@Bomtaker01like?
@@dixenherize6969 a few off the top of my head:
Spec ops the line
This War of mine
Valiant hearts: The great war
are all games with very clear War is horrible/bad messages and moments, spec ops the line has even made people not want to pick it up again from a particularly horrific sequence in the game
Project Zomboid literally tells "this is how you died"
@@thatboyakira4202 but its not anti War or have an anti war message
Hands down one of the greatest campaigns in the fact it faithfully (for the most part) depicted WW1 without glorifying it in a war that say COD black ops glorified the vietnam war
nailed it bro!! in most cases COD have glorified war, showing an unkillable protagonist, that campaign from BF1 is something different and closer to reality.
Honestly, if they had kept the weapons load out more realistic, it would have really cemented the helpless feeling of some poor conscript thrown into hell.. with nothing more than a bolt action rifle, facing off against hundreds of nameless conscripts just like yourself, having to charge a machine gun nest with nothing more than five rounds and a bayonet…
This game was so visually incredible it was for the gaming time period AND it still is today, impeccable work
Yeah bro, the graphics still hold up like this game came out yesterday.
@@willysillyplays straight up dude, like this game i could marry deadass
i love it when games show that most wars dont have a bad guy, and that everyone out there has a family waiting for them at home.
that intro to bf1 campaign never fails to get me chills, one of the best openings i've seen in a video game
those are reasons i loved gaming. Art showing what movies and books cant, immersive stories and brutal honesty.
Yeap buddy, very true...
Watch movie "Come and See"
Those soldiers wandering like zombies have "shellshock". It's a type of mental illness that became prominent during WW1 from the endless bombardment. This was when DICE still cared about presentation & storytelling.
My only hate for this game, is the fact that the devs refuse to release the modding SDK support for single player levels so we can create our own...its what makes old games like Half-Life or Doom 1993 last longer (prolly even compared to this game) than typical games nowadays. I cant really comment on the game's message about war cuz im not a historian or military games addict.
Be nice because it completely ignores the German, Austrian, Russian and French perspectives
@@Genocideforbeginners And? With modding u can conveniently add those things.
@@linkfreeman1998modding community might not bc it would follow how cod went, *a good mod cane out; *modding is banned
@@mightyx5441 yea it might be, but in the past older cod games does have support for mods. Ever heard of Back to Fronts mod for CoD2? Thats kind of mods im talking, its not really MP mod, but rather SP mod....
@@Genocideforbeginnersnot like most of media really cares for those perspectives
My great grandfather fought in WW1 for the entire length of the war. He was 14 when he and all of the other men and boys from his village volunteered. He was 1 of very few to come back. He never once spoke of the war. Just pretended it never happened till he died in 1962 so none of know what he did.
Maybe he just remained hidden
@@mcmerry2846 Yeah he stayed hidden in all the 4 years of the war as if it is that simple.
Maybe think before commenting something stupid
@@mcmerry2846you should delete this
he's your greatest grandfather now
I love playing these war games because to me it teaches me just how horrible war can be to an extent. Playing those games also taught me that I can never be a soldier in a war. I'm not brave to run head first into oncoming fire, I wouldn't like letting the smell of gunpowder, smoke and rot in my nostrils nor would I have the stomach to pull the trigger on another person. And even if I did, I'd probably end up just going crazy about it. I hear talk from people and it's mostly just the internet how soldiers (they mostly say US but rarely about any other country) are nothing but serial killers, child rapists, devils, any sort of bad name really. To an extent, I can understand where they are coming from. War brings the WORST out of everyone that is affected by it directly and there are stories during the Vietnam war for example that just didn't make the US look good at all. The US did a lot of fucked up shit and civilians were literally getting fucked from both sides. But I sometimes wonder those people who love to bad mouth a lot behind a screen, I wonder how they would do in a warzone. Sometimes to help someone understand, they just need to experience something first-hand that allows them to comprehend it all.
see the thing is bud im the same...but i have this....feeling...that if i was stuck under those circumstances, under those conditions i believe i could do stuff like that...i mean, id be shit scared to, so would anyone if they were in those situations, we are all able to make amazing human feats, from you managing to push all the way through to the enemies trench and somehow not get shot to landing the perfect shot to take outt he one guy that has been stopping your side from doing anything....if you was under the rigth conditions i know youd 100% be brave enough to push yourself to be a hero like everyone has the ability to
Beautifully explained buddy, the only way we could ever jump in a war is when we know there no other way, glorify war as much as one can but once you die in a war as a soldier no body remembers your name unless you are some sort of general or a leader, how many of us know names of poor soldiers died in ww1 or WW2? So I would never jump in a war knowing no one will remember me that I went through this shit and died.
@@DEATHSxNEMASISthere are no hero’s.
@HyperNova808 yea your right...but it doesn't stop people in times of need from exhibiting heroic traits and strength...we are a remarkable species
As a soldier in the US Army, generation Z, I sure hope we don’t resort to this sort of madness. I haven’t experienced any combat as I am just a support unit. But my job entails being in convoys. Driving HMMWVs, LMTVs, MRAPS, anything that’s got wheels on it. God bless those who have fallen before my time that have sacrificed everything to get me where I am today.
Hey buddy, it's quite honor for me that an ex-soldier saw my video and commented, can't feel better than this :)
and yes so many young men sacrificed their lives so Gen Z like us can live in peace XD
Thanks again buddy for stopping by, I hope you have a nice day today!
Well, we're all lucky to have the rules of war in place now because of this. Though it's still a tragedy nonetheless that all those people that died in the World Wars was what had to be paid in blood, for us to finally realize 'We need to hold ourselves to a standard if we're going to start anymore wars'
@@Furydragonstormer rules of war? are you joking me? do you know what Isreal is doing to children in gaza?
this is....incredible. I mean, the attention to detail, the portrayals, the ptsd, everything
BF1 was amazing, The way it made you feel for each character. The tank commander story was so tragic in the end
"Hold at all cost" the objectives didn't specify how much time to defend that position, it just want you to do the objective and never expect you to complete the objective
they just do an amazing job at showing how painful war really is. they show how it’s not just a good guy and a bad guy and i really appreciate dice for that.
yeap buddy, thats why BF1 stand out among all other war games.
people always see war through the eyes of the victors, but dont realize that neither side in war sees their side as evil, and often times they are convinced why their side is right, or even lied to in order to try and dehumanize the enemy forces in their minds
even in modern day you can find genuine propaganda that does so, modern day north korea convinces their citizens that countries like the united staces actually eat babies, and the people there believe it because they are so isolated, similar tactics were used in ww1 and ww2 to try and get people to enlist, though not to the same extent as with north korea today
basically, at the end of the day, propaganda sucks and in war everyone is fighting for what they think is right
Battlefield ended with the war to end all wars, everything that came after was a mistake. I never gave ea a single penny for the atrocity that they created post bf1. I'm still waiting for a new battlefield whilst playing BF1.
and another thing is they totally massacred historical facts in their new BF V, those last 2 releases from EA were really bad not sure what happened to them after BF1.
Good on you man, too few people are boycotting new BF while that is the only language EA understands - money. The people who complain about it, yet keep buying it are hypocrites.
@@willysillyplays I'm sure it's because many old devs left the studio, this is what usually happens when once remarkable studios degenerate with games that are unrecognizable to their past titles.
BF5 is good though
Typical internet. Entirely missing the point of the video, and just showing up to bitch.
Rarely do you experience a campaign mission where you're playing what is seen as the "good guys" and are expected to lose. Even rarer still are the missions that give the context and nuance required to feel bad for the enemy as well as the allies.
Yeap buddy, this is something that you never see or feel in other games, BF1 just make you feels so guilty even if you accidently kill one of these soldiers.
Out of all the triple A fps games, this is probably the one that is most respectful. Not in terms of historical accuracy (because it really isn't), but in terms of dealing with the futility and horror of war.
yeap bud, thats is what makes this game special and a masterpiece. The first campaign if one of its kind.
I was in the process of signing up for the army when bf1 came out, i will be forever thankful as i did not go tru in my decision after having a minuscule feel of the horrible possible fate i was signing my life away to.
As well as being a phenomenal way to tell a story, it's a great gameplay mechanic. It allowed them to show off different weapons and mechanics without it feeling pushed onto the player. It felt fluid although maybe a little jarring. Just shows that death can be used as a mechanic in multiple ways. Well done.
I met a WWII veteran and he said he probably would've been friends with most of those people if they met on different terms.
This was, in every way, the best bf ever. One aspect of the game I really appreciate is the fact that the game maps are usually beautiful, full of life, peace and history, some place you would love to leave on, but as soon as the match actually starts, the destruction takes place piece by piece, and by the time the matche ends, you end up watching a place so rid of life and beauty that could only be compared to an apocalyptic and sadistic horror movie. The sadness hits hard, and you can even have fun playing and causing destruction, but the moment you stop for a second and realized your surroundings, it hits hard. What a brilliant game.
bf1 shows the reality of war something they messed up in on bf V where a finish or denish girl jumps of a twintower sized bridge and survives.
Still hope some day they make a historically acurate bf V cause the one they have now seems like its rushed to completion wich is kinda sad. Only story i rly enioyed was the last tiger.
That one had a little more realism put into it but the rest was just a mess sadly enough :/
haha yeah BFV was a disappointment when they did so good with BF1, they must have a clear idea what the bf fans really love but they decided to go exactly opposite in case of BFV.
@@willysillyplays yeah like i said i think they rushed it and thats how they fuqqed it up.
They didnt do their research otherwhise they knew the tiger tanks wasnt made in 1940 or 1941
Same with the story lines they dont feel realistic they feel like they come from a marvel movie.
Only the last tiger i enjoyed watching but the other story lines i didnt feel like they were very realistic maybe the french story line?
But the british one felt fake the norway one definately felt fake and the online battles you almost only hear women screams if it was a modern war game i understand but in ww2 women didnt fight with exceptions for france and russia ofcourse
@@gino-cz9zuthe British one wasn't fake lmao it was based on the operations of the LRDG, and then the SAS in the North African campaign
@@PBI45 aint no way ur telling me 2 british soldiers stopped a 1000 nazis on their own
@@gino-cz9zu not 1000 but often very small teams of specially trained men would go out into the desert for days scouting and destroying or sabotaging Axis airbases and camps. Troublemakers like Bridger would have been recruited because by nature the LRDG and later the SAS were much more lax on orders, generally being "see that axis base, go in a blow it up".
I feel like BF1's greatest feat in its campaign is making the player feel emotions other than just sheer gaming excitement when pulling the trigger. The intro makes you feel desperate and not in control, the aircraft one seeds you doubt that you're not a good person behind the sights, the cavalry one plants disgust at each enemy because you're racing with time, the Italy one gives you revenge catharsis with each kill, etc etc. When you immerse yourself in it, you didn't just feel "haha headshot goes ding".
A good game immerses you in both its fun and feelings.
Not gonna lie, I've played Titanfall 2, Battlefield 1 too late after their prime has passed, and now that I've gonne through Overwatch 2, and engaged with that atrocity... I cannot understand how that piece of crap won Goty 2016, when that year we had Battlefield I
I guess that's the reason, devs don't make games these anymore and instead go for something exactly opposite if this,
BF1 imo still has great world building because it shows you what soldiers of ww1 go through with them thinking this will be one of the adventures and experiences of a lifetime thats quickly overshadowed by how grim the situation has really dug itself into
Its like All Quiet On The Western Front while maintaining a fun game
yeap absolutely right, btw that movie is absolutely masterpiece especially the 1979 one,
one of line that I loved in that movie was: That senior German soldier (forgot his name) sees underage soldiers instantly says "damn if this war kept going, next time they are going to send toddlers" the line was something like, this movie was very well written though.
War games like this always make me philosophize about them after I play them. I get like an annoying highschool english teacher in my own head.
Thinking about how tragic it is to see people die for another country wanting to map paint. Or colonization.
But also finding minor solice in the fact that it sorta unifies people, and then back into sadness when that makes soldiers almost a human sacrifice to make everyone else feel good.
You know it's a good game when it makes you refuse to shoot at the enemy.
It gives you a choice to kill the broken ones
no way I will ever kill them it feels like worse war crime, it breaks your heart instantly you spot them I don't think anyone can kill them unless they dont know about WW1 history and how bad that was for these poor soldiers.
@@willysillyplays After the one mistake I did, I never tried to shoot them again. To me, these men had enough of war. Their on instinct now. Maybe in their own mute world surrounded by the death.
@@olivesandgrapesareok9324 yeah buddy, seems like they are done with everything around them and doesn't care if someone kills them, spare them or whatever.
If battlefield 5 had
Customizable characters like bf 5 it would’ve been better for some.
yeah agreed, they did so much wrong in BFV.
Man this video made me emotional, war is a terrifying thing to exist. Over all my live playing war, shooter , and zombie games, I now understand how bad it is, all the men getting sent off and probably not returning home to their families truly is sad.
yeap bud, honestly when I saw these soldiers for the first time, it instantly made me emotional and was cursing myself how I missed these soldiers when I was playing it First, but I guess we were trying to get as many enemies as possible when we first played it.
The sound of those horns when you switch to the machine gun always gives me goosebumps.
I love how this game dosent revolve around an Mc it goes around from soldier to soldier because there is no Mc in war you are not expected to survive anyways and this game truly shows how war is there are no winners only death,destruction, and misery
yeap bud, absolutely right.
It's worse when you go and research about it later, you find about aobut stuff like trench foot, shellshock, ptsd, and other conditions that at the time, were just seen as irrational fear so they'd be yelled at and turned back around. It's almost depressing that any of that had to happen in the first place, twice for that matter.
So many wars happened in history and still so many believes how epic they are. Its terrifying how goverment propaganda is powerful and will beat experience of fathers and their telling to their sons about the hell. And sadly this is not only on one side.
yeah buddy, and all of the Achievement / land gained by war were taken back sooner or later, so a war is never a solution instead it creates more problem, but leaders of world, the power of their nations gets into their heads, and they decide to occupy others land, and that put millions of people lives at stake.
I only like medieval wars... When guns were invented, war became honourless
@@mcmerry2846it became worse than hell…
Medieval wars weren’t much better. They didn’t have internet, or as great of information gathering/sharing techniques. And with castle sieges, being the first up a ladder in a ladder rush often meant meeting a Mancatcher, Spear, Billhook, Polehammer, Halberd, Warhammer, and any number of weapons to the face. You go up the ladder first, you die first. Hell, most sieges were usually just waiting for the people in the town or castle to starve to death. And open-fields weren’t great either, with all the horns, yelling, chainmail or plate scraping, and the terrible wounds every single Medieval weapons can inflict with not much effort put into it. (For context, holding a Longsword and letting it “fall” while holding and using the falseedge it will tear apart an unarmored person. Now imagine what a full Halberd or Billhook swing would do.)
In my opinion, the only honor to be found in violence is defending your own, or those who cannot defend themselves, but even then there are much more honorable options than violence. War is hell. Time periods change nothing.
@@mcmerry2846 lol
i played BF1 and BF5 for at least two hundred hours, both total war gamemodes and breakthrough gamemodes. it doesnt matter what role i play as, its always overwhelming, its always difficult to win, it always make you lose your sense of direction and situational awareness. the longer you survive, the longer you notice little details, notice enemy and allied patterns, even go as far as flinching to every little vibration or noise, your survival insticts is stronger than your duty as a soldier, i believe its what those who return from war suffer from, what we call PTSD. the sense of ultimate survival. as an assault you're always overwhelmed by the sheer number of infantry and vehicles. as an engineer you have unlimited ammo, but almost always you'll be firing non-stop. if it were a real war you'd run out of ammo for goddamn sure. as a medic you're constantly overwhelmed between staying alive, doing objectives, and keeping the rest on this plane. as a sniper you are never safe because soldiers dont like getting shot by snipers from 200 meters away so they'd carry weapons that can fire back at you. the harder you push, the harder they push back. its chaotic. and im glad i only get to experience it in a video game, and not in real life.
one of the most saddening things i see in video games is enemies with oxygen tanks, flamethrower tanks or whatever they have on their back having those tanks get shot, ignite, the enemy panics, and the tanks explode and kill them. it really is just sad seeing them panic before their untimely demise
this game was pure art. likely wont see another like it.
hell yeah buddy.
Truly horrific and the fact they were all killed in the vein hope to bring glory to their leaders is so sad, nobody won this war, everyone lost.
You know, after playing the BF1 I didn't really think much of it. Just thought it was a casual arcade type shooter but now after a couple years I watch this video and it never really crossed my mind like at all. War is really a deadly and brutal landscape that not many soldiers come back the same way ever again.
My mom's told me stuff about how most soldiers never come back the same again and that they act like they've lost sanity and this just proves that.
And the fact that most of them were young and died that young really made me think about how horrifying yet truly heartbreaking it was.
Other than that, thanks for opening my mind onto this and I appreciate it :D
astounding video mate, gave us a look into the what actual wars are
This is why Storm of Steel was the best of the episodic levels of BF1. Felt like war.
The intro in BF1 makes you realize, that those things depicted happened, and you realize you are fighting pepole that Did nothing to you. You realize that you are fighting a war that shouldnt even happen. Games like battlefield 1 , far cry 3 and other titles give you the realization that you arent killing random pepole, all of them had lives that you took in one way or another. Maybe they had families that they wont return to. There are alot of shooters where this is skipped Over, or not mentioned at all. I wish game designers would give us something just like that, but that wont be possible anymore, atleast not in the near future.
seen the soldiers crying and wondering as they where lost or without hope hits hard
even the calm song choice in the beginning “dream a little dream about me” goes perfect with the transition from being in a dream to a chaotic battlefield.
It is not the most accurate WW1 media. But like vanilla World at War, without mods, it is Authentic. And a hidden lesson. War is Fun in games, but it is also, really, a terrible, terrible, terrible, thing created by mankind to settle scores, in which by the end, seem very stupid, after you look at the ruins, and the mangled, smashed, broken, physically and mentally human beings. I remember seeing a german soldier, walking from battle, in a tattered exhausted state. And after I had well, stupidly shot him, I actually reloaded the mission to avoid that, and just said merely, "what have I done". A game rarely did that for me.
Yeap buddy, this is far the most immersive and historically accurate game that DICE has come close to, it's too good in many aspects, it helped me learn about WW1, I only knew about WW2 especially allied offenses before that game, due to curiosity after playing this game I searched and learned alot of WW1.
And yes, it feels like a bloo*y war crime shooting these heartbroken soldier, it doesn't even feels like a game at some point it feels like I have done it in real life.
Back when games where artforms, by far my favourite game of all time
actually it's right after gaming went to shit
it was one shining ray of hope in the industry
we hoped that games would be more like this
and they only got worse
you nailed it bro!!!
yeap mate, not sure who the heck advised DICE to go exactly opposite of BF1???????
@@willysillyplaysold devs left. That's what everyone's saying.
Miré este video en un televisor, y después de ver una demo de un juego de terror indie situado en la defensa de una trinchera rusa.
Creo que ambas cosas lograron que este gameplay se sintiera aún más... incómodo
Con el sabor agrio que me dejó el anterior video, la imposibilidad de leer los comentarios, y sobretodo esa oración del principio... "No se supone que sobrevivas"
Esas palabras, y; cómo esta misión está hecha en general, me recordó a varios videos de terror análogo de supuestos juegos flash que vi alguna vez. Siempre mostrando caras deformadas que representan los peligros que nos ocurren en la realidad, que nos van persiguiendo poco a poco hasta que finalmente nos alcanzan y cuando eso ocurre, podemos ver sus horrendos rostros en primer plano, antes de ser secuestrados, comidos o descuartizados, y solo cuando llegas a ese fatidico final, te das cuenta que nunca tuviste el control de nada en primer lugar...
Battlefield 1 and CoD: World at War are at the top of my list of war games, the intensity and realism give you a renewed perspective on the conflict.
I wish devs peered more into this type of story
Showing the depths of hell soldiers go through, showing the depravity of the war and how it impacted both sides of the conflict.
One game I always felt that hit that mark was Spec Ops: The Line,
It lulled you into the sense of being this good guy fighting in a non-descriptive battle fighting regular baddies when you slowly reveal the truth and witness the consequences of your actions
God I might play that game again hahaha
The value of a soldier's life is often overlooked. It takes years to raise a person, but only seconds for them to die. As a Souls game developer once said, "They want to show you death more than usual." This means that in reality, soldiers care much more about life than they are often given credit for. They do not take the lives of their enemies lightly, and they know that every soldier who dies has a family and memories.
It is a painful thought to know that you have killed someone who had so much to live for. The value of a soldier's life is not just in their ability to fight, but also in their humanity. They are people who have made the ultimate sacrifice to protect their country and their loved ones.
8:28 I always forget until it's too late the soldier on his back in that section. Like his legs are broken or something and all he can see is a moving pillar of metal and death roll up next to him. Seeing him writhe around like he can't grip anything feels pretty bad
For the first time in literally forever, I didn’t feel like the main character that was unkillable, but a side character that was to die in 5 minutes
I felt my heart slow down while watching the wandering soldiers 😢
:(
7:26 it wasn't showing that the soldier was sad or tired it was showing the extreme amount of shellshock that soldiers experienced
That's a lot of friendly fire. Makes you wonder how much there really must have been in all that chaos.
BF1 is the old DICE final masterpiece. This team had passion when they went to work.
With BF1 *and* BF5, DICE did a very good job at making us hate war. Then they go ahead and make voice lines like "what a time to be alive" in 2042.
Some might say BF5 didn't show war how it was, but it does better than pretty much any other game about war. Especially the last tiger mission.
yeap bud, Last Tiger was so good and I think that's the best thing came out of BFV, its campaign was actually good, if a game MP doesn't deliver well people usually like it for its campaign unfortunately BF2042 doesn't even have a campaign.
I'm excited to be picking up a WWI 1911 that was refitted/parjerized for WWII, one of only 21,000 made, likely only one of hundreds surviving in its condition
hey buddy, that was interesting, yes, the conditions were that bad that even metal could shatter into pieces.
"You are not expected to survive."
That off the bat was just like, oh no..
Like your vid because I can tell u appreciate WW1 history as much as I do.💚
For the all the lives lost in that past era of time… may God be resting your sad sweet souls.
The last clips makes me cry. From how easy the war is; from taking lives of others, total destruction towards surrounding, how evil human's madness are. Driving people into fear, savage and being animals; hungry for others blood only for the sake of survivability.... until there's only 1 person for both sides, they realised...
what they have been fighting for...
what's the body count killed for...
what war is for...
*It's all useless*
Lol. RIght. We play Wargames because we hate war.
A game is not real life if we are gonna compare that we litterly cant play anything anymore cuz gta5 tells a story wich is mafia related watchdogs doesnt go by the law and like this game its war.
However war in game has no consequention on real life. U can kill or be killed and its ontp the next meanwhile in real life family will hear u are never comming home again so yeah it makes u hate war by showing what it could have been like for them.
It shows u horror so u realise that what happend then must NEVER happen agains
@@gino-cz9zu We just love killing people when nobody dies.
Yeah buddy we do play war games, and many gamers would sometimes wonder how wars would feel in real because they were in wars virtually/games, BF1 solved that mystery for you and told you straight never ever even wonder "How its gonna be like in real war".
Dude you are acting like a Kyle.
Don't hate on wargames because 1 Gamers never replicate killing you idiot.
2, it's a historical game so you actually learn from it (except cod).
And 3, everyone hates war. Who said we didn't.
@@extantfellow46 i always respect heavy machinegunners that sprinted strafing across no man's land to capture C while firing from hip
i also "respect" tired and exhausted riflemen that spin 360 and jump crouch to avoid bullets - legends
oh no wait i hate those fucks and i don't think this silly crap done by literal children gives any respect or lesson about those events
As soon that 1:55 dark cold dreading tone back ground sound track kicks in it gives you and me chills thinking about what where going into ill never get use and stop thinking about that sound track bachground ambiance
i had saw a mini doc on the shell shock soldiers has gotten during this war and it really shows the brutality war does to a person. war is ugly and will always be
7:26 and 7:56
Let's be honest, after all the crap they must have seen, maybe it was better if you shot them so they would not have to deal with traumas such as post-traumatic stress later
Nah bro, I just couldn't, there were as young as 14 years old kids in Imperial German Army at the end of WW1 who were stationed at most intense front lines, no doubt these boys couldn't take that immense pressure.
In Ottoman Empire, Sivas Highschool couldn't graduate anyone in year 1915 because every student of that year got killed in the war. War is a thing that should never happen.
that intro video gives me chills every time i watch it
so this is supposed to make us hate war ? they didn't do a very good job
haha I think they did a good job, show me a single game in which you die multiple times in a campaign mission, many games intro mission will be like a Chunk Norris taking out a whole army by himself, BF1 didn't showed that, instead it showed how weak and tiny a single human being can be in those massive bloody battles.
It made war fun and look fun just like every other video game does 🤣 thats why they are video games
@@extantfellow46 I’ve had played the campaign multiple times 😂
@@extantfellow46 yea it might be anti war but still 🤣 doesn’t make me hate it
I agree it makes us hate war, But that bell ring after a kill makes my bloodlust go up to the skies.
This video put tears in my eyes
Another great detail to this game is how, when playing operations, you can see where the fighting has happened. Every area fought over is destroyed and decimated as you move on to the next push or fall back to the next defense.
This video actually shocked because i wasnt expecting so much detail
I think this moment where he accidentally shot the wandering soldier, dragging his rifle behind him really shows something about war. As a gamer, Thats the way you react, reflexive and without a second thought. But if youre put in this Situation where the only option is to fight for your life, it really shows something about what might be going on in the mind of a soldier back then. Just like Remarque wrote, wir waren Menschtiere - we were Human animals. Stripped off of what defines the conscious mind, just acting and reacting in the only way this Environment youre put in allows you to.
Yeap buddy totally true I killed him before I could realize anything :(
Geez the chaos and the epic music at the final push...
Hey bud, Yeap, this is what makes BF1 intro campaign one of its kind :)
@@willysillyplays Man I actualy stumbled on your BFV one first (youtube algorithm was in nsdap history recommendation mode that night so I got a load of german life style just at the end of the war)
You make a great vid with good observations about the reality of that era. You definetly get my sub for that!
Although, I don't realy have much of an opinion about war, for me it just happens, I'd still buy you a beer and have a chat. Keep up the good work!
Hey bud, you have no idea, but these words mean a lot to me, They give me more energy and motivate me to keep going. :)
I would love to have a chat and have drinks :) Why I am so critical of wars? I had a chance to visit one of the warzones and live there for quite some time and I absolutely hated every second of it, the loss of life, civilian suffering, and overall destruction, it was bloody disgusting (it only seems adventurous in movies and games)
It made me grateful for the peace that I had back home.
As a war historian, everyone thinks I love war. Honestly knowing more makes me hate it so much more than staying in the dark. War is hell. Never forget that.