Living with the 2017 KTM Super Duke 1290 R
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2024
- Everyone wants to know which is best, the Tuono or the 1290 Super Duke! Well in this exciting vlog I discuss some of the fine features & differences between the two and why I'm falling in love with the KTM Superduke!
One thing I didn't mention, the phone integration is an extra to "unlock" its not standard.
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LC
bought a 2017 super duke r 2 days ago and im absolutely blown away by this machine nearly bought a tuono but not kean on the looks of it but still a fucking awesome machine the torque and looks one the day for me man im so happy right now cant stop smiling :-)
Bought recently used.
The thing that I find most spectacular about this vehicle is that the engine can also be very sweet, raw power only if you want... it's a masterpiece.
Great video. I lost the bloody "keyless" key on my BMW and it costs a small fortune to replace it. It now always resides in an inside pocket.
That Duke is so damn cool.
9:30 amazing Kit and I love how the TFT Display changes from white background to black in different lighting conditions very nice
I got the pleasure of riding one of these about a week ago and now I'm obsessed. Such an amazing bike!
Great video as always LCR! Picking up my 2017 SD tomorrow, can't wait :)
You lucky devil!! Enjoy it
I just bought the Tuono factory. It was one of the hardest decisions to pick between that and the duke. The price I got on the Tuono was all that did it in the end. Both are awesome in different ways. The duke is more relaxed for the road imo. I could ride around all day on it. The Tuono handles better and i prefer the v4 engine sounds but it has harder suspension and more forward riding position. I would have both if i could. The Tuono also feels dated in some respects with old style headlights and indicators and then the rider electronics are more advance... decisions decisions :-)
Spot on! I totally agree with you. I just bought the Tuono Factory as well, and I love it, but I wouldn't mind having the Super Duke right next to it in the garage :)
NekkeDeez yeah! Tuono Factory team is here.
Great video, you're definitely one of my if not favourite motovloggers
Very kind of you to say so James, cheers buddy
My main complaint with the Super Duke vs say the Tuono is that everything comes on both the RR and Factory (quickshifter w/ blipper), track mode, wheelie control being switchable, etc.
KTM are nickle and diming customers to death on a bike that costs (at least in Canada) more than the Factory by over $1,000. Then to ask customers to pay $ to unlock the features that should have been included from the factory is outrageous.
I love the KTM and am seriously considering buying one, but the lack of features that are included on bikes $4,000 to $5,000 cheaper is an insult I may not be able to overlook when it comes time to make the purchase.
+iamtherealzombie yeah at least the SD is cheaper than the Tuono here so you can get the same features and it's still a little bit cheaper than the Tuono... I don't like the fact the electronics are not there on the standard model when the hardware is on the bike
Quite a difference in pricing on different sides of the Atlantic.
Here in Canada a Tuono Factory is $18,595 (the RR is much cheaper at $15,795) and a SDR is $19,499.
I love the SDR, but that's a lot of money to spend just to have to throw more money at KTM just to unlock the stuff Aprilia includes on the RR for almost 4k less.
If I wasn't 6 hours away from the nearest Aprilia dealer, this would be a no-brainer in the Tuono's favour.
Some of the best bike reviews. Well done.
I was looking at a tuona as well as this, the reason I chose the SDR over the Tuono was that I'm 6'6" and the SDR was so much more comfortable for me and I needed it for a daily commute to work as well so the comparative 46mpg on the Tuono to the 60+mpg on the SDR was a no brainer
As you say it's the little touches.
With a quality designed product the thought shows in the details.
Also if the dash and controls are intuitive to use without fuss shows the same.
It's not all about hooligan power and wheelies. Although they are extremely important too .
Great stuff LC, but give me the Tuono for all round use. The Aprillia would be unbeatable with a bigger fuel tank and less of a thirst. I will wear it though for that sublime V4.
Lovin your work sir, stay safe.
I’ve quite enjoyed all your 1290R videos, awesome job! Cheers from the US.
Great video! Please keep up the great work. I especially love the scene at the end where the s2000 drives by as you ride by. I own a 2005 s2k, same color and no spoiler just like the one in the video. Thumbs up, and I'm watching this video twice. lol
+Slade Renegade hehe thanks Slade! I used to always want a s2000 when they came out too 😎
Great Vid. In Australia the reason I purchased the 2017 Tuono over the Superduke is because I got the Aprilia for 23k and KTM wanted 26k plus I have to pay 1k to unlock the quickshifter and bluetooth ALREADY ON THE BIKE. Plus even more for the 'track' mode. Both great bikes but it really rubbed me up the wrong way with what seems like a quick money grab from KTM for what is included as standard from other euro bikes.
Yes your certainly not the first person to object to this.. In the UK the SD is 2k cheaper than the Tuono so you can offset it but when its more expensive... Hard to swallow
I can’t decide if I should go for an old super duke or a new superduke with all the new features. A lot of money for the new stuff too. There’s a second hand old one with the suspension done up a bit. I didn’t think the suspension was bad though
i love how you take care of your gloves hahahahah
hehe yes, you can see why they are broken :-)
Want a clock? Just look at the sun!.......
Oh, that’s right, you don’t have that in England 🤔
great idea paring your phone to the bike. always have a missed call & voice mail asking when am I coming home !
Yes its a nice idea, shame I didnt get to test it out fully. The audio connections works well, can skip tracks etc which is cool :-)
This is by far my favourite bike
Top video as always Please do a r1 review mr chops id really like to see your thoughts on it
I will try again but Yamaha are not interested in talking to me.. :-(
Lamb Chop Rides that's a shame hopefully now though that you are doing the Ktm and aprillia reviews you can persuade more manufacturers to lend you some bikes
Hey dude.. oh no ive only gone and tested one and man what a bike.. placed an order hopefully pick it tomorrow bring on the good times :)
Great news you wont regret it!
I'm going to pick up mine next friday, i can't fucking wait tbh.
Your going to love it!! :-)
Yes chop chop love the video can't wait for the next one. Ride safe and take it easy pal.
Thanks Dave!
I notice it still wags its head under hard acceleration. I got used to it after a while but did find it more prominent than other big bikes.
Owned a Tuono 1100, stunning bike but it always encouraged me to absolutely rip the thing about - it also had some reliability issues but I won't go into that too much as I still love the bike/brand. I like the idea of the 1290 as it's a more relaxed riding style, but still has that ballistic grunt and best in class looks.
What problems did you have with the 1100? I was very close to buying one, then went for the 1290 because i do a bit of two up riding.
+Jim 86 yes it does encourage you to wiz about that V4.. gorgeous but think SD suits my riding style better don't need any encouragement to go fast! 😂
It randomly cut out when changing from 2nd to 1st, and on one occasion would not start so had to get a lift back to the dealer. Annoyingly Aprilia could not diagnose the issue. To be fair it only did it a handful of times over 9k miles, but it still slightly tainted ownership. Looking at the forums it's not uncommon.
I've got a Daytona R now for ripping about the twisties but I'm really keen on the 1290, it's just the price putting me off... Hoping if I buy one over the winter I'll get a load of extras included 😬
Jim 86 damn those were not minor hickups...
The V4 was that good I would still buy another. I've had 4 Aprilias in my time and that was the first to have problems.
Great video mate. You said earlier on that you were looking for a new bike after you sold your CBR.
are you considering this?
Still got the CBR decided to keep it but still not sure if its staying... Yes this is one of the bikes Im thinking of buying if I ever sell the CBR
love the videos.......please can a company hook this man up with a new set of gloves.
haha yeah what he said! :-)
dream bike forever obviously with a s1000rr and an r1m
Appreciate your views on which bike (Duke vs Tuono) gets hotter (temperature-wise) & where (which part of the body) does the heat radiate to
Great reviews sir whichever you go for they're both licence munchers. If your after an r1 to try you can try my r1m
If Yamaha dont play ball may take you up on that Steve, very kind of you sir :)
Lamb Chop Rides no problem
It would be awesome to pitch this one against the S1000R
I don't think that they are in the same "league". S1000R seems more "sensible" while the other two are beasts in their own way. No right or wrong in either of these 3 I think, it's just a matter of what you prefer.
So a major point was that you can't look and see what time it is when you're pulling wheelies?
'30 degrees today!!'........things you don't hear in Scotland :/
Ian P 😂😂 10 months later and we are sitting in the 30s 🤣
There’s only one problem with the Tuono. Just one. And it’s the reason I’ll never buy one. It doesn’t have a fuel gauge. It seems absurd to me that the bike with the best electronics package outside of MotoGP doesn’t have a £2 fuel sensor. I get the rsv4 doesn’t have it because it’s a track focused bike. But the Tuono is a road bike!
Agreed Russ its a huge oversight!!
Use the trip counter...set each time you fuel up and allow a conservative estimate based on tested econony...its what we used to do before every bike had fuel sensors! Agree though its an oversight but That shouldn't dissuade anyone off the best sounding and handling road bike on the planet!
lol
Considering how long I've ridden bikes with nothing but a fuel light and trip meter, and before that a reserve switch and odometer, it certainly wouldn't stop me from getting one. It does seem incredibly odd that even on the latest version (after plenty of critical feedback), with electronic everything and a TFT dash that has a real time display for lean angle as well as braking and acceleration g-forces, that there's still no fuel gauge. Still lean towards the SDR though, because I like that V-twin torque along with the tall and narrow packaging.
When you wheelie the time must be 12 o'clock right! Sounds like you need to keep the CBR and bite the bullet on the KTM or Aprilia.👍
haha, yeah thats why I need a clock to confirm Im hitting 12 o'clocks!! ;-)
That is the mean looking bike 😎
I need this in my life! 😩
gonna watch this when i'm back home..on the way now..lol
Good video Chops...im very very close to purchasing this SuperDuke damn its a sexy bike! Chops how much do they charge to unlock the goodies ie quick shifter etc thanks
Its a stonking bike, price on the track pack is £291, that give you the option to turn off wheelie control and have the adjustable traction control and its £495 for the performance pack, that includes the QS and MSR bits. So really you need to budget 15k for the bike IMO..
What drone are you using? And is someone flying it while you ride or is it tracking your phone or something? Thx
Its the Mavic and its running in Active Track on its own, I had the controller on my lap to keep an eye on it. Thats why I keep glancing down, yes I was terrified it was going to crash haha. Will do a vid on it soon :-)
Lamb Chop Rides try the 360 on the stationary bike..it's very easy to do and flies better than you can fly it:-)
oh not tried that mode yet... One for the new 1090 adventure :-)
Just cruising round....in track mode?? ....not following the logic there I'm afraid.
What is the typical fuel consumption?
I ride it a mix of spirited and cruising, I get 45-47 according to the digital display. Stock, no alterations, 2018 model. During break in when I rode like a Grandma (under 6k rpm) I'd get 50+ mpg.
If you remap and get akra or some other system it probably will dip down to high 30's based on what I've read. Honestly I feel no need to modify the duke farther but all I do is commute and some spirited riding, a throatier exhaust would be nice though.
that's MPG and using whatever the default display for fuelage is for a US model.
Love your motorcycle... and you gloves wich model are they?
there will be apps for bikes next, the ashtray app
RSV4 already has one!!
And what happens if the battery of the key is dead?
Didn't RJ do a video where he started his duke left the key and could ride around and even turn it off with killswitch or something and then start it again?
Also what is a blipper I googled it but not much comes up just clutchless upshifts and stuff
a blipper revs your throttle for you as you do a downshift with your quickshifter. It's basically automated rev-matching and clutchless downshifts. Not all bikes can have a blipper, it's required to have ride by wire (I believe), as the blipper computer needs to override the throttle signal.
Ah I see thank you
Yes what he said :-)
Question for you ?
Best 2 naked bikes on the market now ?
Best 2 sports bikes on the market ?
Your opinion only
Thanks
Would have say the Tuono and Superduke 1290R for the two best ones IMO, if you want something slightly cheaper then the MT10 is amazing to ride if you can put up with the looks. Sportsbikes The RSV4 top its incredible, second from my short go on one would say the new GSXR1000, hope to have the RR version for a week soon for review!
Seriously man, brutale 800rr 2017! That and super duke for the best 2 nakeds.
What backpack is that you're wearing? Love the front pouch.
Its the Ogio flight jacket Daniel, very handy indeed
Did you do the electronics review on this bike?
How tall are you? You monster that bike, just wondering because I'm 6ft and looking at a SDR??
I'm 6,2 Phil and mister most bikes 😥
@@LambChopRides cheers mate, not being derogatory cause I monster a few bikes myself, keep up the good work😊
Thanks Phil
Qestion! (Excuse spellong please :- (...
What if you where to lets say talk to friend at cafe ect.. get on ya bike start it...ride away... ohh left key on table. Dose it shut down or what? Just a thought.
No it does not shut down, but it will tell you that the bike lost thte connection to the Key. But it will not start again if you shut it down completely. Only if you kill the engine with the kill switch :)
Hey Mr Chops!
How do you compare the riding position on the 2.0 vs the 1.0
The 2.0 steering has changed....
Yes the 2.0 feels more stable and less skittish, suspension is still vague though and would benefit from the same treatment mine had. Its a bit more civilized than the 1.0 version, 1.0 is a bit more raw
Also what I want to know is if the riding position less confortable because I heard the steering on the 2.0 is wider and more towards the front so therefore the rider is more inclined frontwards. Thanks again ✌🏻
nice bike
How much is the petrol there? It's $2.20 for premium in Oklahoma in the US.
HerroYuy246 1.2 pounds per litre last time I've checked... You are lucky indeed...
1.2 GBP = $1.55 USD
1 gallon = 3.8 litres.
$5.89 per gallon in the UK.
$6.8 per gallon in Norway, just for fun facts sake.
were those prices premium or just regular? nice reply though saved me some work :-)
I'm assuming the first guy replied with the UK price of premium, I added the Norwegian price for premium (£1.4-1.6 per litre, premium, depending on where you live in Norway)
Which song do you used in starting .....
Cool vented gloves...lol
Have you tried track mode? It's fucking mental
Oh yes you have
Yeah LOVE it!! :-)
Lamb Chop Rides tried it last night for the first time (200 miles on the new beast) fucking shitballs on off switch
Hi Lamb Chop, would you rather have this bike or a hayabusa?
Thats an easy one Rocky, this one of course. But I have to confess I have not tested the Hayabusa so shouldn't really say that before I have tested one...
Twins have a lot more personality and the sound track is awesome. Fours are super smooth, develop power higher, but are a little forgettable over a long period of ownership. Whatever speaks to you the most at a given time.
I bought an s1000r in 2016 and also own a hayabusa. I will be buying this super duke soon. Very hard to compare, they are different bikes for different purposes. One thing they have in common? Both fast!
00:38 your old fireblade?
No that's my buddy who did all the carbon bodywork for the blade, hes got an SP1 Blade now
You should have stripped off to your Honda pants , and cooled down in that water there lamb chops , l o l , cheers Shane uk 🇬🇧
I have a ktm duke, it's only the 125 lol.
With the keyless part. If the bike was taken from you like is rife up in London at the moment! Would it cut out after the key distance is reached.
+Terry no keeps going until it's turned off.. think it's just incase it looses contact while your ridding for whatever reason could be dangerous
Lamb Chop Rides thank you. The bike jacking is reaching huge numbers. I'm surprised bike manufactures haven't come up with a solution yet!
Don't leave you're bike running :)
Jim 86 lol. What if a shit bag decides he wants your bike more than you at a set of lights 🙄
If you've got keyless just stall/kill the bike and they won't be able to start it. I don't actually know the figures but I'm guessing >90% of thefts are when the bikes without its owner. However, if the guy has a weapon and you prevent him from stealing your bike, I think you'll be the next target.
How is it a 140 nm of torque Lamb Chop , spec for the Duke is 104 ?????? Am I missing something ? 😳
You are looking at ft/lb, not NM.
Living up to the tradition of moto vloggers riding on boring roads.
+aluisious this video was about how it can be a pusy cat, watch the other for some hooonage
Lovely bike! I wish i could afford it with but then it would get nicked in no time in London. Is it just me or must it Audi drivers a wankers?
haha, yeah I think they are!! Thats two Audi drivers being dicks Ive seen recently :-)
But the KTM has a V2.
More you dont need
Its no good ol boy your going to have to rob the bank and have them both!!
+Neil Cole I think that is the only option 😀😀
This or rsv4 Tuono? The tuono is the hairy chested bikers bike...fewer frills, fewer unecessary gimick electronics (to go wrong which they can on the ktm....I'm a past owner of one) and more focussed with that glorious engine note. Tuono all the way for me as its character and abilities shine through stronger. Fuel guage is no bother...set the trip counter after filling up and be conservative about miles in tank. It's no mt10 which drinks fuel.
The only bike I really regret selling was my last Aprilia. They have real character and are unrivalled on road or track. Ktm may have stronger residual values and appeal to vloggers more due to the electronics package?
To me its just too much distraction for two wheels. Give me throttle,brakes, indicators, lights and horn....that'll do nicely. Rain and rain modes are a good thing on these modern bikes though as they genuinely need them with the power on tap.
Hard decision....I think you'll buy the ktm, but deep down will want the Tuono 😉
the SDR is hypernaked and Tuono is hypersport, similar performance but SDR is more upright position SM-like with more torque, and the Tuono is closer to a supersport bike with more forward position and better aerodynamic properties plus acceleration. What I don't like about SDR is how KTM wants owners to buy those packs to unlock full control over their bike, for which they already paid a fortune for... Anyways for track days I would would rather take the Tuono, but for road the SDR with upright seating position (comfort) and more torque (5th gear wheelies) is rather my choice.
Duke just has a lot more down low. motorcycle.com.vsassets.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/2016-aprilia-tuono-v4-1100-factory-vs-ktm-1290-super-duke-r-hp-torque-dyno-547x389.jpg
chops you need to invest in a new pair of gloves dude!
+StuOnTwo nah Mrs Chops can repair them!! Make do and mend it's the British way 😁
2'27" "reply" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
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Shupa jewke
Tuono is the ugliest bike ive ever seen. What are people going on about!
Shaun Dodds
have you ridden one ?
@@Trystan46 so are you are attempting to explain to me the double bag technique.
Shaun Dodds ??
In your opinion, of course. For my part, I think it's one of the best looking bikes out there. Beauty in the eye of the beholder, and all that....🙂
I know beauty is in the hole of the behinder but that bike is flat out butterface.
Also you could see those wheels from outer space lmao. Must be mad fun to ride tho
KTM still treating their potential customers like retards I see.. If this was a 125cc Learner bike I could partially agree with intrusive rider aids- But on a 1301cc Hooligan bike it's just fucking annoying!
Except it won't stay off unless you fork out a further $300 for a stupid dongle that renders the bike illegal for road usage.
At the time of purchase (almost 2 years ago) the dealership wanted $280aud for the dongle. And yes I know exactly what the dongle does, hence my comment. Still additional money that you are forced to pay for a feature that should have been standard.
I guess you don't own this bike, because if you did, you'd know the MTC programming is absolutely atrocious. Something that was supposedly made better on the 17 model. But for those that own 14,15,16 models the MTC makes the bike run like absolute shit, making the dongle a necessity.
It's not hard to look at your screen to see what is enabled/disabled. I guess KTM don't think their customers are capable of reading or remembering.
It's not a hooligan bike, the only hooligans are the idiots riding like idiots.
Safety is safety... I guess you don't care about that.